osu! World Cup Drama

[@SaowAngel]

Looks like there is more to the Fia drama here 😎 kzbin.info/www/bejne/qIe1gmytfKyheKM

[@spwarkz8564]

rip to all the players on china who were trying their best 😕

[@jaspirit]

Fia isn’t so bad? Are you kidding me? When was the last time you saw a player with such audacity and foolishness to cheat in world-level tournaments? Fia puts OWC in a lower level, and we will be blessed if we never see a player with her betryal for her teammates again. Crystal breaks records. The lolol squad breaks records. Fia breaks the rules. You can keep your program. I prefer playing the actual game.

[@koth_harvest_final]

i love how this copypasta made its way to osu! from melee lol

[@legitore2487]

i feel bad for Crystal :(

[@SaowAngel]

same :(

[@coolstuffgaming]

He's such a talented well arounded player across all gamemodes, underrated

[@iq6062]

I feel bad for Chicony

[@delta-archives]

@@iq6062 Well, the people shitting on Chicony calling him a sore loser are either pissing their diapers at this point or apologizing, so if I were Chicony, I'd feel good now that Fia is a verified cheater. Major props to Chicony for saying that the other chinese players were the best. It's the other teams losing against China and the other legit China teammates themselves that I feel bad for at this point.

[@Melody-do2ny]

I agree with you. I actually feel bad for the other China players because one player ruined it for the other team members.

[@sky.1238]

I feel really bad for Crystal. He tried his best and... that happened 🙁

[@keepingcompany8196]

How sad that one person's actions ruined the tournament for not only China, but every other team they beat along the way... Fuck if I care what random scores were cheated for PP, once you take those actions in a tournament (especially a tourny where you're on a team) it's completely deplorable.

[@kimkimcard6835]

Chicony was right, sadly he was stomped on for accusing fia of cheating D:

[@4rc-en-ciel]

the average redditer

[@kanekatsu_]

Yeah he was right, but hard accusing with little to no evidence at first and spam reporting isn't. I feel really bad for the Chinese OWC team especially Crystal.

[@delta-archives]

@@kanekatsu_ I agree with this, he could've brought it up a different way, but well he did leave credit for the rest of the China team and to be fair, how else would he bring awareness to the situation? If not for that Fia would've probably gotten off scott free unless others were already suspicious of Fia already.

[@Mix03814]

he was stomped for being a child

[@littl333]

@@Mix03814 are you retarded

[@paydayoday5696]

+100 social credits to Chicony

[@honmi]

thanks for covering this, hope you keep making videos like these in the future!!!!!!

[@SaowAngel]

Yoooo didn't expect to see you here but thank you :))

[@randum2278]

Not gonna lie, I thought I was watching a full fledged osu channel but I didn’t realize that you only had 500 subs! I look forward for more interesting videos.

[@SaowAngel]

I'll do my best!

[@donmatthew7877]

I actually saw mrekk post on this and even he wasnt sure if fia was cheating and I also thought chicony was just being a clown but turns out I was the clown 💀

[@syntinel9481]

At least you own up to what you've done. Plus, to many, it looked like at-a-glance that Chicony was being salty due to the loss. Nobody to blame but the cheater in the end, really.

[@treedward7912]

We all were the clown💀💀

[@kiyoponnn]

I don't even play osu and I knew fia was immediately suspicious during china v. russia when her pc crashed twice and by how surprised the commentators were that she was a mouse player

[@DavolafShorts]

Thx for the drama update

[@SaowAngel]

np man 😎

[@ephymoon]

So funny to read fia's tweets about chicony just being jealous, so much ego when you are playing with cheat xd

[@akanecco_2323]

Looking forward for the "Fia and Fushimi Rio are the same people" vid soon

[@SaowAngel]

I just woke up and the first thing I see is that 44 page document 💀💀

[@akanecco_2323]

the fia document is even longer than my high school thesis 😭

[@Mista1Take]

FIA = Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile

[@omarionreid496]

pls be the osu drama/news channel we need

[@SaowAngel]

Don't plan to focus on drama but if anything interesting comes up then i might cover it 👀

[@opaquePF]

insane video quality for 500 subs, you have potential !!

[@Zlatarier]

I never knew that Its possible to have cheaters on owc

[@SaowAngel]

I believe this is the 3rd case of cheaters in owc

[@hGlxV]

@@SaowAngel who were the others?

[@SaowAngel]

@@hGlxV totoki in 2016 and teriri in 2019

[@seanr6107]

how bout reshi

[@SaowAngel]

@@seanr6107 oh yeah probably, I was just thinking of Chinese cheaters lol

[@henevv]

But then no one believed the Russians and most of the players openly mocked Chicony.

[@gort5516]

osu community is full of simps, shocking I know.

[@carlosdumbratzen6332]

I havent played in a long time but I am glad that the drama is still coming

[@monowasure2163]

If Russia's Chicony have to risk their reputation by seeking justice for a Chinese player, why shouldn't we hold the Chinese OWC team responsible for negligence in regards to external selection of players? Let me remind you that in recent years, Russia and the CIS have been distinguished by a high culture of confronting cheaters.

[@kennethalfredo5532]

Now Chicony and Russian Team got karma by losing the match against Romania. Maybe Chicony proud losing to cheater even though only 1 out of 8 is cheating (Even I don't think Fia is cheating, the only thing why Fia is acussed as a cheater is because she is playing with mouse and that's it, sound like every player play with mouse is a cheater) and how about OWC Screening staff then, for not carefully screen the player? I think the country that affect most from the screening is Indonesia, the fact that Crezz is not participating because of the restriction that he got. Maybe Chicony also proud losing to Romania, the country which seed lower than Russia. Chicony is just so cocky and disgraceful. Judging from this actually Russia also need to be disqualified as well for not having a good manner in the match.

[@fade9973]

@@kennethalfredo5532 watch the video again, but with sound on this time, because you look like a clown. Did you pay any attention to the rule 17 part?

[@kennethalfredo5532]

@@fade9973 I did understand that part, but based on the explanation given, it is look like the OSU staff already know from start that Fia is cheating but why the OSU Staff let it slip by at the first place when the screening held. That is not making any sense to me. If the suspicious activity is happen during the tournament then how so, is it because Fia playing with the mouse? Is it because they think one replay evidence represent anything. So for me personally, the evidence is not strong enough. If they can prove that Fia is cheating throughout the tournament, or at the very least when the Romania vs China match held, then you can conclude that Fia is cheating. Again based on my POV one replay doesn't represent anything.

[@monowasure2163]

@@kennethalfredo5532 man, just say you hate russians :/. I, as a Russian, do not feel humiliated that my team lost to Romania, so be it, Romania showed a good game and deservedly won. The main thing is that justice has triumphed. (By the way, in the match with Ukraine, Fia played on keyboards :D)

[@kennethalfredo5532]

@@monowasure2163 And just say that you are forcing me to hate Russian. I am just saying that I am not satisfied with the evidence that cause Fia got banned from it. And one more thing, the thing that I hate is how cocky Chicony is by saying they lost because their opponent is cheating (The art of sarcasm) either it is the truth or not again I am not satisfied that the one replay represent anything and again about playing using mouse it is just saying as the possibility because that is what I am notice, because in the video they comparing with the best mouse player. Please read my statement as asking a question with the question mark in it not as that I am saying that Fia is playing only with mouse. Back to the main topic, Does that mean he (Chicony) thinks that if the opponent not cheat that they won? This is based on my POV. Based on that I think Russia feels that Romania is an easy opponent for them and it turns out not and they deserved the Karma. Yes I am rooting Romania and really happy that they won. But I think you are forcing me to hate Russian somehow. When someone wrote something like that, is Chicony thinks about his teammate?, and again based on my perspective that attitude is a big no no for me. Again you are also saying about Chicony is risking the whole team reputation by that post, and in my perspective again, that is not an attitude that he and his teammate should proud, because that is not a winner attitude. And if you think that I am hating Russian, just say that you are forcing me to hate them then to make your statement are right.

[@loganoss2k]

Goddamn this years owc is so heated

[@nxsunknownz6984]

This video is well made, u deserve way more subs

[@SanzuRiver]

Now im mading that my favirote mapper cheated.

[@KafCat69]

Rip😞

[@nick1752]

Such a nice commentary, your voice is very good btw and the edit as well. Awesome job! Keep it up!!

[@chenchen6150]

I'm really sad that there are still high ranker player that is still caught cheating even after 2 huge ban waves + it is hard to said to move on as this incident should be a lesson why this entire beef will only give alot of hate to legit offline player.

[@skurwieI1]

tragic for china, hope it goes well next year i guess

[@Poonz]

Nice video ixcors/admos and Ronos/ PsychedlicMush tournament gamer

[@Waffle_6]

i like the vid man, good editing. subbed

[@SaowAngel]

Thanks for the sub 👌

[@0dsre]

this really sucks for team china :(

[@caramelkrista9967]

I thought players in owc team should know each other. Why they didn't communicate? I mean chinese team, they really allowed some stranger to play with them

[@chipperonio]

Knowing each other doesn't mean being aware whether or not one is cheating, and Fia is a well-known mapper and had played many tournaments up until that point already

[@k_Hwaofficial]

Fia is well known as Pinkheart the mapper so, saying that they're complete strangers is utterly stupid. She also played lots of tournaments before owc lol

[@amvgo2773]

Giga chad chicony

[@6fathom117]

i play both osu and beat saber and between the two communities its like theres some shit happening every day

[@SaowAngel]

average popular rhythm game community

[@LimbowZz]

I don't even buy the bestfriend taking over the account tbh

[@k_Hwaofficial]

Are you okay lol?

[@l.c.431]

you are aware that the friend in question is fushimi rio right?

[@k_Hwaofficial]

@@l.c.431 he isnt apparently

[@LimbowZz]

@@l.c.431 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD kzbin.info/www/bejne/iXOmoJ2PmL-AZs0 shit was so predictable

[@roundedosu]

feels bad for crystal chicony isn't careful with accusing which personally i resonate with, but the russian community is an unstoppable mob, and of course it started hate mailing fia i remember the other day chicony wanted to raid sytho on twitch but decided not to because he was afraid his viewers will be racist

[@KaneTexas]

Bro video games cheaters need prison time or something

[@SaowAngel]

i think it's a thing in South Korea lol

[@KaneTexas]

@@SaowAngel lolol i heard about that, and i think some got arrested in china for cheating in PUBG mobile

[@WeTi12]

3:04 personally i think that Riviclia is a better mouse only player

[@chenchen6150]

Even kynan mention in one of his old video used to said there is a cheathing method that make you looks legit play but it wasnt at all and sadly there are also few cheating accusation of spinner bot like suspicion watching their play but it was really a rare bug if the game freeze for few seconds right before the spinner appears.

[@stes_]

Mouse and no keyboard, that's more crazy than the cheating imo

[@randymarsh4748]

ironically my osu becomes laggy and low fps when my Internet dies and im offline

[@radekmojzis9829]

The tapping could be explained pretty easily... I have a keypad for osu with 4 keys... so i just bind left and right mouse clicks, F2 and escape to the keys... so even when i play on tablet the clicks are registered as if they were clicked on a mouse. its really nice because i dont like using the buttons on the pen, and i dont ever want to use the keypad to type anything so it just makes sense to do that.

[@ensral]

Would've been awesome if this year's owc hadn't have this happening but it's still a heated exciting tourney.

[@Martell_0812]

Im sorry but its always china…

[@syntinel9481]

Good video, subbed.

[@Pokaroquai]

I don't know what happened here, I just quit osu a few weeks ago, just enjoying to play the game and it gets bored to me

[@Strix2031]

Where am i why was i recomended this. Good video tho

[@akanecco_2323]

well there's always next year

[@Pokemonlin99]

I literally see "welcome to mogul mail" after mogul mail was recommended in my timeline 😭

[@SaowAngel]

That mf ludwig is everywhere man

[@bloosun]

Man did you have to show my match cost vs China 😭😭😭😭 Good video tho ;)

[@SaowAngel]

Just get more match cost, it's really that shrimple. But thanks, good luck next year ;)

[@ajj5735]

Good video !

[@spy_kek7609]

Get GYZE to replace her LMFAO

[@devaxionrl8189]

Jordan the Bear is a gigachad

[@saraero]

why is the background music so loud like john makes some bangers but i can barely hear you

[@SaowAngel]

yeah my b

[@barrettgreenough]

3:03 what about tony 2 or showerpiss or spreadnuts

[@randymarsh4748]

she didnt have a big role in the russia match she did tho in the romania match

[@kit9837]

Normal day

[@c_m00]

"she" suuuurely the osu player with the anime name is a real girl

[@SaowAngel]

suuuuuuuuurely

[@DISCONSOLATION]

NOOOO CHINA

[@nia8385]

China deserves like at least another chance or something, anything, idk dude

[@timonbubnic322]

sure, give a second chance to cheaters, its clear yall never competed in a competitive setting, not talking about osu but about sports for example. If you find a cheater in a high level match its over, 0 2nd chances, you have to make an example of the scum so others dont follow

[@nia8385]

@@timonbubnic322 Not a second chance for Fia a second chance for china..? Like replaying all their matches without her etc

[@timonbubnic322]

@@nia8385 no, cause that gives incentive to other teams in the future to do the same with the mentality like: "Lets take a cheater, if we get caught we just deny any connection with the cheating, if we dont get caught amazing, easy Ws, if we do get caught lets just replay our matches without the cheater. " Think about it objectively man

[@nia8385]

@@timonbubnic322 what if someone wanted to see USA lose, so they cheated to get noticed and get on the USA team and then exposed themself to get them disqualified? Like no matter what there's gonna be a way to abuse the rules, but the point is that regardless 1 person should not be able to fuck over a whole team

[@timonbubnic322]

@@nia8385 what💀, theres a dramatically lower chance of that happening, considering there are multiple qualifications to get on the team and they would have to plan this years in advance, its so unlikely it isnt worth thinking about, it doesnt matter if there is a theoretical way this could happen, the chance is way too low for it to count

[@joshua_pls4749]

Guys, chicony reported fia because Romanian players told him about their suspicions about her tho. So he didn’t do that by his own ideas. Btw drama on Reddit happened cuz a couple of Russian players (not in owc roster) accused a suspicious Belarusian player and banned him using many reports to see if he would stay in ban if he cheated or not. Sry for my English if it was bad

[@CamelliaFlingert]

☝this

[@joshua_pls4749]

Oh I made a mistake in facts. Romanian players didn’t notice that, it were Russian owc players. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpqQk5yim8yMY9U there is a video where you can get into this situation better(it’s on Russian but it has eng subtitles) The author of the video made the same mistake I did and wrote a comment explaining it. I feel bad for the rest of Chinese owc players. Gl to them next year❤️

[@thebombbird3261]

first language? Your english is solid

[@thebombbird3261]

@@joshua_pls4749 not English the other language you speak

[@joshua_pls4749]

@@thebombbird3261 my first is russian

[@neopalmiscus57]

chikony is a hero! so much russophobia nowadays

[@WaferDaily]

make more videos bro

[@SaowAngel]

Too much effort 💀💀, but i'll try :)

[@WaferDaily]

@@SaowAngel jaja i know but you are good making it!

[@temp04345]

Oh

[@lenain3932]

Chinese players cheating ? What a surprise ...

[@woojinlee2481]

what the.. she plays only mouse? dang

[@ChaosEater39]

she probably doesn't, 'cause she cheated. so the options are her having good skills just not only mouse; her being unabled to play osu at all (this is straight up not true but IS an option); her being bad at nerve control so she plays the maps before the tournament, then she replays in the tournament; or it could be that her skills are low 4 digit level and that she just cheated so that she could be a well known player by getting into the owc. of course in all these options she could be abled to use mouse only or maybe mouse and keyboard OR tablet and keyboard. edit: this was not explained well before so, fia cheated right? the only reason to cheat in a fun tournament is for either the prize (improbable because the prize is not SO big) or fame (infamousity) as a good mouse only player right? what reason do you have to play mouse only then, if you are cheating anyways? you see? its not MOST likely that she doesn't play mouse only but it is still quite likely.

[@mercamia]

could be, but there are some people who plays with a keypad that uses a mouse pcb and binds on mouse keys when you tap with it

[@monitorscreenbroked]

what is osu?

[@danialinoo1930]

НЕ ТРОГАЙ ЧИКОНИ КРЕТИН

[@nick1752]

Спок. Он защитил Чикони т.к. тот был прав.

[@zamrylicious135]

Ur down bad if u cheating in osu.....IN OSU

[@Niebert]

You would be surprised of the number of people who cheat

[@63_skies]

chicony was right, but that doesn't make the way he went about his accusations any less immature.

[@0x02s]

i doubt that if chicony didnt cause all that drama they would even try to confirm if fia was cheating or noy, his methods were bad but effective at least

[@millyyeasmin7904]

Chicony is based he did the right thing

[@millyyeasmin7904]

Would u want the cheater to get away?

[@LOLzum101]

Wait there's no way someone got kicked off an osu team because little kids cried about a tweet someone made holy shit that's so cringe

[@RileyWaffle]

what

[@LOLzum101]

@@RileyWaffle what don't you understand

[@piggi2550]

They didn't get kicked off because off the tweet, it was because she cheated. How are you this clueless

[@chinuz2589]

@@piggi2550 he is referring to the reddit post/tweet at the start of the video 😐

[@LOLzum101]

@@piggi2550 nice one clueless retard. Try actually watching the video before you spaz out next time. I love how your split second is "4 screen shots, music to emphasis it, and a little speech to introduce it".