OTHER FATHER IS A FAKE Coraline Explained - Scene 31

OTHER FATHER IS A FAKE Coraline Explained - Scene 31 | The Fangirl Scene-ic Saturdays

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@grimgrinning_gh0st 7 ай бұрын

This has always drove me crazy, but during the ghost children scene they only cover ONE eye when they ask Coraline to find their eyes

@Eleanore.Rigbyy 7 ай бұрын

The details in this movie are meticulous, I bet this was done to try to tie in the “eyes” and the “ghost balls” that Coralline finds. I don’t think it made things better. She could’ve been looking for their souls not their eyes.

@achill6080 7 ай бұрын

So you said last week about how "Other Mother" Didn't give her a clue. I think she did. She was tapping her eye and then the tapping turned into the dripping faucet. I always thought the tapping was meaning like "the world is not always how it seems in the other world" Because we can tell when Coraline looks through the seeing stone. And then for me when the tapping turns into water dripping and looks out into the garden that just sealed it for me like "There's your clue"

@veearce3384 7 ай бұрын

Congratulations on the wedding, lovely photos! ❤

@TheFangirlWatches 7 ай бұрын

Thank you!! 😊

@Napryano4kaAfton 7 ай бұрын

Fungirl, the carnivorous plant where the frog, was called - "Nepenthes rajah".

@rictiovaros3768 7 ай бұрын

I wouldn't say Nepenthes rajah specifically. Closest I reckon is Nepenthes ventricosa (I have like 50 Nepenthes lol)

@carolyndawn7513 8 ай бұрын

So I had to double check but the plants you where talking about are based on pitcher plants. It’s also common for some species depending on where they grow. To have frogs sit in the pitcher plants as they frogs will either eat the bugs or lay their eggs inside the pitcher Plant. The liquid inside is precious to them since their not the pitcher’s intended prey and in return the pitcher plant gets the frog poop which is a fertilizer for it.

@veearce3384 7 ай бұрын

Exactly. Other pitcher plants are carnivores. Lure insects, etc, with their sticky substance, they're traps. 😏 trap plants.

@joke1able 7 ай бұрын

wait, so if in the book, the balls are not eyes but instead, souls... What is Coraline speaking to in the mirror room? If their souls are trapped, how can they have a form that is able to speak and move around like spirits. Maybe the book explains this (idk, I never read the books) or maybe, another sign the ghost children Coraline sees are puppets. Because even in the movie, the ghost child's soul is speaking from the ball. So, either way, if they're imprisoned, the mirror room interaction doesn't make sense.

@scaranation01827 7 ай бұрын

I dont think it's that deep that coralines dad has two glasses my dad has 3 😭

@magnificloud 7 ай бұрын

^ seconded, and people take their glasses off all the time

@MenAreEverything425 7 ай бұрын

No fr not only that but I'm kind of over it on how ppl keep saying that Coraline is still stuck in the other world when its like if she really was still in the other mothers world the other mother (aka the beldam) would quite literally attack Coraline or at least try to capture her and dont get me started on how ppl think the black cat is "evil" hell if he really was ''evil'' and was out here trying to to lore Coraline if that was his intended purpose he would have done so already like dam it's obvious as hell that the black cat is smart for crying out loud lol

@ahmadburhanhabibi 6 ай бұрын

@@MenAreEverything425you misunderstood the movie. The purpose of Beldam is not to capture Coraline or kidnap her, but to make Coraline LOVES her. Thats why Beldam used many [you may say unnecessary] tricks and manipulation instead of, well, just kidnap her from the start. Thats why this theory of Coraline still trapped exist and many thinks thats plausible because it is. Of course many people would prefer happy ending though so this theory would looks annoying in their eyes. Especially if the movie looks like have happy ending aswell.

@connie-michelleharris 7 ай бұрын

I love this series so much, I'm gonna be so sad when it ends!! Oh to answer your question, those pod like plants, the one where the frog came out of look a lot like pitcher plants, a type of carnivorous plant that catches small pray using a sweet smelling liquid inside itself, but the inside of the plant is slippery, so whatever falls in can't climb out. The particular ones in the garden look a lot like the Sarracenia Purpurea Venosa, or the Southern Purple Pitcher Plant which are native to eastern North America ranging from the Gulf Coast of Florida to Nova Scotia and across the base of the Rocky Mountains. Which is curiously fitting considering that the Beldam lures kids in with SWEETS and other good things and then traps them and makes it difficukt or out right impossible to leave.

@carolyndawn7513 7 ай бұрын

Yeah I noticed they where pitcher plants too but I forgot that they used a sweet smell to attract flies. I kept thinking about the frog which typically has a symbiotic relationship with the pitcher plant.

@connie-michelleharris 7 ай бұрын

@@carolyndawn7513 Oh, it wasn't just flies they'd feed on, anything that falls in there they'll digest, even small mammals that fall in somehow. I remember someone else commented that some frogs lay their eggs in the acids of pitcher plants or similar plants because...I think it was essentially a form of protection, I'm not entirely sure;but it is odd that the Beldam would have such an exotic plant or have any idea what it is; a pitcher plant doesn't strike me as the type any run of the mill plant store would have and that town didn't strike me to have very essentric shops, even if it is the limbo world by the Beldam's design

@WAJ-ns9nw 7 ай бұрын

I love your Coraline analysis vids. Its interesting all the things that are there i would've never noticed.

@autisticnation7140 7 ай бұрын

I looked it up and the first flowers. The one the frog pops out of. They're very similar to multiple carnivorous plants. Couldn't nail it down to one in particular. But it's pretty obvious that the frog is sitting in what I can best describe as the mouth/stomach acid of the plant. Frog isn't just chilling

@dominiknovosel883 7 ай бұрын

Actually, the frog is chilling. Many species of pitcher plants (Nephentes) have symbiotic relationships with other animals, usually frogs. The frogs eat some of the insects the plant has caught, and in return, they defecate inside the pitcher fluid so the plant can make use of the residual nutrients contained within.

@veearce3384 7 ай бұрын

I think maybe the positive growth milestones is probably referring to the following. -Social Development -Cognitive development More specifically: -Mutuality -Normative expectation -Empathy and understanding Examples: -Do more complicated problem-solving -Handle a higher level of academic challenges -Consider others’ points of view -Think abstractly as well as concretely -Pay attention for longer periods of time -Engage in cooperative group activities focused on cognitive tasks: puzzles, games, etc. However you're both probably correct.

@s.knaturegirl9895 7 ай бұрын

i think the sink has a copper ring around the spout

@dominiknovosel883 7 ай бұрын

Or brass. It's pretty common for the consumable or fluid-contacting parts of sanitary fixtures to be made of brass because it's cheaper to replace and less prone to corrosion. Supposedly, it also has antimicrobial properties.

@adammartinez8061 7 ай бұрын

Sorry if this is random but just looked up the meaning of snapdragons and apparently one of the several meanings are: Deception and trickery. The Snapdragons unique “mouth” shape, which can be manipulated to open close, has led to associations with deception, trickery and cleverness. In fact some several meanings of stuff like the mantis revolve around Deception and trickery.

@catking1059 6 ай бұрын

Pitcher plants, they’re carnivorous

@laurabramblett5136 3 ай бұрын

@3:55 those might be Pitcher Plants, they work similar to Venus Fly Traps, only they look more like the Zelda Liik-Likes. But, just like Venus Fly Traps, they don't actually get that big. Also, keep in mind the Beldame is slowly running out of mana as Coraline continues to prolong the buttons, hence why everything is starting to look more shabby and why certain puppets (Whybie and Other Father, the two newest creations) are beginning to disobey her. This would also explain why if they truly are still in the Other World, Ms Spink and Ms Forcible were able to give Coraline the Seeing Stone.

@autisticnation7140 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for talking about my comment. The part of kids hitting milestones slower and faster is both true. Its different for different kids of course but when it comes to things like emotional maturity they can be slower. Because the way children develop their emotions is dependant on interactions with others. Whereas things rhat entail their immediate survival ie: cooking, self care/hygiene, etc. Its the parts of development that require other humans to interact with that get delayed. Example Stranger Danger

@HattieDame 7 ай бұрын

Going to get really dark here, but what if the following is ACTUALLY what happened? Coraline and Mel fight, Mel leaves for groceries. Coraline goes into the other world and when Mel comes home, she sees the little door open (a lure by the Beldam) and panics because she had already put that key up where she thought Coraline wouldn't get it. The door had given her the "bad juju" mom vibes. Anyway, she calls Charlie maybe and leaves a voicemail or gets him to rush home and then, leaving the groceries out because that's the least important thing, Mel goes on into the tunnel. And let's assume it's not a welcoming version. As soon as she's through, she's dead. Killed. The Beldam was lying in wait and just nixed her competition. So she takes Mel's clothes and pulls the same thing on Charlie when he arrives home as she does later with Coraline, perhaps to test the believability of her pretending to be Mel. It works, he goes through and he gets nixed also. So everything after that is the Beldam. Coraline DID go back to the real world and see the rotten groceries, etc but she was under constant surveillance by the cat and the mice. They might have even brought the glasses and neck brace over to make Coraline even sadder and more likely to go back to get her parents. Also, Charlie's glasses are for reading. Based on how he wears them low on his nose and looks over them, and being a full-time, lifelong glasses wearer myself, I can say that he doesn't have them on right for vision correction. AND being reading glasses, he'd have several pairs like most people do. Also also (sorry this is so long), but when my mom had a neck brace from whiplash, they gave her three so she could change it out and not keep the same filthy one on the whole recovery time. Just a thought. ❤

@magnificloud 7 ай бұрын

[Edit: prefacing to note that i enjoy your content a lot and i still love your videos! I just also have thoughts!] Oof, child neglect works a spectrum (i.e. children can be neglected emotionally without it falling into the category of abuse) Another thing that's important to note is that the same kind of neglect can impact children in vastly different ways depending on the circumstances and the personality of the child. Not all neglected children are hyper-independent, neglect can have the opposite effect just as simply. Another thing with coraline's behavior and choices (arguably unrealistic recklessness, sudden realizations, noticing oddly specific details, having suddenly impressive dexterity or skill) are just sort of aspects of film in general? No matter how detailed and precise Laika is, their worlds are still stylized and fantastical. Sometimes things exist or characters think things because it moves the plot along (and I know that's so so boring and totally against the theorist spirit 😭) but things like the excessive recklessness of Coraline are what allow the story to function the way that it does. Same goes for the cryptic nature of the cat and neighbors, it feels like the style of the narrative/storytelling rather than what would be natural/logical in real life. Also, people do stuff that doesn't make all that much sense _all the time_ in real life, _especially_ children, so in conclusion my take on things is that though I recognize that this series is to examine the mechanics and details of every scene, I also feel like not everything in this narrative has to be natural, reasonable or realistic to work

@tabbylouise 7 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing my comment!! That’s such a good point that there is also no doll present for her to spy to match the outfit if it’s the real world which is definitely not!! I love your videos your amazing I am obsessed with your channel 🖤

@spaghetticatlover 7 ай бұрын

I know this detail I noticed is very small, but the eyed pumpkins 8:45 were staring at coraline Plus, when they all turn into greyed out stoned as well 11:00

@ammarkamel5592 7 ай бұрын

I think you're hard on Coraline she's just kid😂

@anonymous-vt9te 7 ай бұрын

Well its no secret and no surprise that the beldam, being the game fanatic that she is, she loves a good challenge or more specifically challenging others. I think that's at least one of the reasons why all the garden tricks happend from the blue vines under the bricks to the birds grabbing the stone and the mantis tracker targeting coraline. And besides the beldam knew coraline had the garden tool with her so she knew coraline would be able to get herself out of the blue vines grasp. The other mother is not going to let this be easy for coraline but at the same time not too hard either.

@nevermoreraven3340 3 ай бұрын

I don't know if anyone has said it yet but those plants you were unsure of are pitcher plants. They're a type of carnivorous plant. They come in many shapes and sizes but some look nearly identical to those.

@joelblackmanreviews8472 2 ай бұрын

I made it to the end! I love your videos so much!

@ThomasWilson-yc7ht 3 ай бұрын

On the topic of 11 year olds being reckless. I had attentive and caring parents and a mom that was paranoid I'd get taken by strangers so she often warned me and my siblings of the dangers of other people we didn't know. But I was also the kind of kid to wander 6 houses down and talk the ear off the person living there that I had JUST MET. 2nd example. My brother has 3 kids and his youngest (11 years old) is JUST LIKE ME and basicaly walked 3 blocks to hang out at a friends house without telling anyone or asking the friend if he could. I remember watching this movie and thinking that much of Coralines actions were basically what I or any of my nieces or nephews would have done. On top of this, Coralines parents aren't as attentive as mine were, or as my brother and his wife are to their kids. Lastly, Coraline is an only child who doesn't get enough attention. All of that is a recipe for a kid that is going to explore or seek diversion any chance she gets.

@a.t.m873 7 ай бұрын

I like your video called "Can Coraline ever return to the real world?" It, like you said, would be an incredibly difficult stealth mission, but thanks for the hope that years later, if she notices differences in everyone's behavior and is extremely careful, she could one day find a way back to the real world. It did give me hope while I do believe the downer conclusion that she is still in the limbo world at the end of the book and movie.

@TheFangirlWatches 7 ай бұрын

It’s almost sad that there are enough clues to tell us that Coraline doesn’t really get home, which would leave us room for a potential sequel, but that that sequel is never going to happen.

@a.t.m873 7 ай бұрын

@@TheFangirlWatches Yeah, Laika isn't a big fan of sequels. Neil Gaiman does like the idea of a Coraline sequel but doesn't think it will ever happen.

@BBMacsWorld 7 ай бұрын

About those flowers you were talking about. They are real, yeah. I'm not sure what they're called, but they're carnivorous plants. Bugs fall into them and the plants digest them

@CremeBrulee543 7 ай бұрын

I love your Coraline analysis videos

@Bombiedude. 21 күн бұрын

Maybe the real eyes were actually contained within the pearls that coraline finds or maybe they were fake the whole time and the beldam makes coraline have the dream with the kids as the end as another part of her trick

@poltergeistghost 2 ай бұрын

She could also have known what she was wearing because she was still wearing it when she kidnapped her

@xdlolrawr 7 ай бұрын

one thing i really think could be delved into further is the time aspect of this film, although i may not agree with every part of your theories the idea of time and the limbo do interest me, however ive not seen many people discuss the time element (the speed of time in the other world/sometimes real world to be more clear) also that jug you saw on the otherside of the kitchen to me appears to be a milk jug, kinda what youd use when youd bring out a pot of tea, but of course just for the milk :)

@rebeccatoms925 6 ай бұрын

It’s seems that the other mother wants coralline to think she got home and to be grateful to be back with her real mother (who is really the beldam) so that she will now be loving towards her mother and that the beldam stores that love in vessels like the ghost children’s eyes in order the power parts of the other world

@lamechseffects 3 ай бұрын

I'm suddenly realizing something. When the fortune tellers said there is "danger" in her future and the other said "something tall." Although they argued, they were both right. The beldam is dangerous. And she is tall. Very tall. What if it was the same for the seeing-eye. It finds things that are hidden. And also things that are evil. That would support your theory that the childrens' "eyes" are part of the beldam's plot.

@christopherb501 7 ай бұрын

So close to the end now...

@marchelematherly1980 2 ай бұрын

When i saw it, i though her parents were dead right from the start, she may be grieving their loss? Her imagination is getting the better of her, and she may be angry with her parents and thats why she imagined better parents. Just a thought, shes not going to come out of the other world until she comes to terms with their death

@KyKi1998 7 ай бұрын

Hi, I love your videos! So, I'm Brazilian and in the brazilian dub the ghost boy says "there's still two PAIRS of eyes lost" and it always bothered me, because Coraline only got one of each and it was never mentioned again.

@YasmeenMO 7 ай бұрын

love your videos

@TheFangirlWatches 7 ай бұрын

Thank you so much!

@YasmeenMO 7 ай бұрын

@@TheFangirlWatches you're welcome

@laurabramblett5136 3 ай бұрын

Not gonna' say you're wrong about the Limbo Pink Palace when Curaline had the interaction with Ms Spink, Ns Forcible. and Whybie. I will admit it's odd they're helping her if they know what's doind on at this point, but I won't say you're wrong. However, you keep bringing up the lack of the Button-Eyed Doll during the shopping scene and I'm just curious if you ever considered a stowaway rat? We know now via the seeds they are working in the shadows, bringing items to the Beldane and the cat has even called them her spies, but we've only seen them in action 2 or 3 times at this point.

@icyvalleygurl2702 7 ай бұрын

Pitcher plants..

@gracekim1998 7 ай бұрын

Ooo😮 intriguing thought

@TherealGisselle 7 ай бұрын

Isn’t it strange the black cat doesn’t speak even though coraline is in the limbo pink palace 🤨 he must have to follow a set of rules. Again, he’s just like the spiders from “Gregor the Overlander”

@TheFangirlWatches 7 ай бұрын

That could be it, but it depends on whether you believe the cat is a minor of the Beldam (so he wouldn’t speak in the limbo world) or if he’s his own powerful creature (which may not want to be outed to others). But the cat definitely plays along with no known benefits. And that goes along with Neil Gaiman’s writing philosophy of creating an entire world with rules that the reader will never fully know.