OTHERtone on Beats 1 - Flying Lotus

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[@MrMattaiusify]

This may be out of context, but Flying Lotus is a musical genius.

[@j3s333]

amen

[@faybiel4956]

Never out of context. It is an omnipotent fact.

[@liammcvea9859]

this needs to be said more often, respect

[@dolphinbeta514]

And Pharell tryna sound good for the youth

[@BeatsbyFerhan-C]

💯

[@blastedburrito110]

I came here to hear Flying Lotus talk. Pharrell is cool though.

[@dolphinbeta514]

Everytime i see this i remember how og maco said he hated bitch u guessed it and was drunk when he made it. then pharell is advocating for it and doesn't know that.. what a oblivious business man

[@masonbernstein9987]

@@dolphinbeta514dude no one has a firm grasp on what other people will like about themselves… ur just lookin for ways to discredit ppl

[@pinkfloyd36123]

scott vener isnt even attempting to understand what pharrell is saying. in the late 70s disco took over because people just wanted to feel good, and eventually it was crushed by punk and new wave and experimental music. thats exactly whats going to happen today with the feel good party music. despite this, you can still have a good time with disco, and you can have a good time with new radio music. culture shifts and changes naturally, and like pharrell said, the only thing we can do is be appreciative of the fact we live in a diverse, rapidly shifting time in music.

[@AQGOAT24]

altho if you look into that disco burning thing, a lot of it was fueled by racism. take a look into it.

[@coreystaub7169]

This is an OUTSTANDING music conversation

[@iamOTHER]

+Corey Staub Glad you enjoyed!

[@eitherwaybeneath8318]

Lmfao Pharrell knows he keeps all the magical beats to himself.

[@pouponboy6330]

Nah he's hating on them he doesn't have no Magical beats

[@cheddaman4411]

@@pouponboy6330pink + white exists

[@lifejourneytobenatural]

Type of music style never dies! History repeats itself. As Pharrell was saying, "It is about change", but we don't have to let anything die. Like Prince music will continue to live forever in someone's Vinyl, disc or Itunes. I believe there will be a surge of underground rappers who will hit those flows and beats including producers. We see old trends come in style already but I don't want to lump genre of music into a "trend." We just have to be open to celebrate the old, today and future. I'm an oldie when it comes to music. All this started with my Pops playing 8 tracks and vinyls of 70s music like Al Green, EW&F, Marvin Gaye, etc.

[@iamOTHER]

+lifejourney2bnatural 👏 👏 👏 👏

[@lifejourneytobenatural]

iamOTHER Thank you! I really enjoy these round table discussions.😊

[@vincesc720]

The point is there will never be an other Prince :)

[@recenello]

Wow Lotus is so much chilled out than I thought he'd be. His music is so amazing I just thought he'd be more serious.

[@Chameleonardodavinci]

Haha really? He was pretty much everything I expected but better & more charming

[@Anon1694]

I'd imagine he'd be as chill as his beats

[@HomageBeats]

I was really looking forward to hearing what FlyLo was going to say, but he was never given the chance to fully express himself...

[@MrBoommer1]

Seems it was more a Pharrel interview then a Flying Lotus interview.

[@idontevenlikemoney]

Seems like that's just how Steven is. He isn't very opinionated.

[@bbc2590]

Go listen to the full pod not just the clip lol

[@Narokx]

FLYLO is such a fucking visionary, talking about TIKTOK on 2016, saying how music will be make and advertised for the 15 seconds it gets on TIKTOK Also he went in talking about Lil Pump (10000% who he was thinking of) LOL

[@danielnicoletti4408]

Scott Vener talking about "true music fans". Man, the fact that its not "true" to him does not mean it cant be true to someone else.

[@recenello]

I know the first time I heard On Sight and New Slaves and Black Skinhead my entire worldview changed of what was possible in music. I will revisit those songs in twenty years and remember how groundbreaking that sound was.

[@kyleblackmon1459]

+Anthony Recenello I agree. But they aren't talking about THOSE songs haaha

[@GV_777YT]

I totally see Pharre;'s POV but there is def a watering down of artists not just in hip hop but in music. every time less artists play their instruments, write their songs and make timeless music.

[@alliant]

+V a l n s k y he cant admit it because hes been part of it / is friends with tons of people in that part of the industry. it's one thing to say music's subjective and another extreme to say there's no quality difference, everything is just equally good without qualification.

[@kaito2005]

How is Pharrell not 19 years old?

[@AhmedHassan-eu3zm]

LMAOO how come you don't have enough likes !!

[@eqapo]

I've never really heard Pharrell speak his mind. He just so concisely and calmly rebutted Vener's commonly-held view on current music. I just thought he was another power vocalist in the industry - but holy crap the mans a musical SAGE.

[@itsswizzy21]

I see both sides of the points, I love it. I love the fact that they're even having this conversation! Just wish FlyLo put more input into the convo! Main reason i clicked on this shit lol

[@spacepod100]

+itsswizzy21 I want to watch flylo talking about how he cooks up his crazy music

[@jakepearce404]

Flylo always has something interesting to say, but pharall kept interupting him, kinda killed the the whole convo.

[@FargoMusic]

Pharrell being a star of 2000s is so up to date right now! He just moves forward!!!

[@joshuatudino9151]

I feel like Flylo is right on this one. He doesn't get to speak much, but when he does, he mediates and agrees with both. He iterates: Things are more accepted now, you can not say shit and just feel it, or be super lyrical. Shit changes, some good, some bad depending on your standing withing it all. Most of it is temporary, and it will shift back. And though things are shifting, the shifts are period and have been repeated before.

[@addieehigie-obano1311]

Flylo is so fine goddamn 😍

[@strengthbuild]

shouts out to Pharrell for mentioning disco, that was messed up how they tried to shut down an entire genre of music, and it worked until recently when people started going back and saying "wow this is good stuff"

[@livenaturallea]

Wow, they were basically talking about posts with music and reels before it was introduced! And Pharrell was completely interested

[@hqaql]

Really annoying how Verner doesn't get 'it'.

[@zhbroder]

scott vener needs to stop posing questions like they have binary answers..

[@brokemogulradio]

+zhbroder music is math

[@MalikEKC]

+zhbroder shit was driving me insane.

[@cathartic555]

+brokemogulradio Interpretation of art and its history ain't

[@skaybestrog]

who was flylo gonna say? future? thugga? migos? chief keef? damn i wna know

[@milokt5391]

+Michel Fooly Cooly we all know he was gonna say kendrick.

[@skaybestrog]

psure he loves kdot, they've worked together on numerous occasions...

[@milokt5391]

Michel Fooly Cooly i was jokin bro

[@fishman7618]

+Michel Fooly Cooly all of them? (i still fuck wit future tho)

[@skaybestrog]

that young terr avatar tho

[@ogbtthegoatogg]

that boy Brandon Thomas produced the fuck out that OG MACO joint! OGG!

[@ERay152]

Someone tell me the Instagram trick for music!

[@sturred]

I need to knowwwwww

[@cathartic555]

+ERay152 Fuck man talk about being curious :@

[@elijahr_1998]

ERay152 I'll be here too when someone drops their knowledge on us

[@isaiahfayerweather6893]

They might just be shazaming shit or just finding old loops by themselves on ig

[@HarrowerJX]

yeah me too

[@Dwight2744]

I mean the early stages of hip-hop were all about rocking the party and getting people to dance and have a good time. It's no different than what you hear on the radio today. Things haven't really changed that much. Music that gets you hype has always been popular, from that early disco-rap, to 2 Live Crew, Digital Underground, to Puffy, to the No Limit era, to Lil Jon, right on through to the Fetty Wap's you hear now. And I do love the lyrical driven hip-hop of the golden age, but there still are great lyricists today. It might not be in the mainstream as much as it was in '94, but it's there right at your fingertips. It's easier than ever to find good music through the internet so you can find whatever style you like. Great time for music.

[@CodysFavorites]

two music gods

[@edITCssTv]

What's the secret technique they are talking about?

[@evand.455]

+Cedric Liemessing The only interesting thing they brought up ... I want to know too ... ?

[@jayj2583]

Im sayin!! At least let us know in an AMA or something

[@joseXfatality]

I get was Scott was saying. I've always felt the same. I don't think that MOST of what is popular today, will be looked at 20 years down the line and be considered iconic or ground breaking. It's just all momentary catchy goodness.

[@Highnified]

im in 30 seconds of this video and the man doesn't let the people talk! listen to the masters mane

[@jlsmarts]

MUSIC IS A MENTAL TIME-STAMP. When this current (youth) generation becomes my age, they will rock out to Lil' Yachty, Future, etc., attending their "reminisce" tours like my generation does with EPMD, KRS-1, etc. #cyclical

[@kyesartez4815]

Older generations have their list of "feeling" songs from their time period and our generation have our own list of "feeling" songs from our time period. Since music changed during those times, our understanding and relation to "feeling" for what we listen to has also changed, and it will continue to change for future generations.

[@TIto-oo3fi]

I'm amazed by Pharrell. Throughout this video, he is literally paying respect to OTHER. A great artist can be a fair critic. And look at his shades, its so dope!

[@roastlonely]

they are all right and Scott's points are also on point.

[@Sharpie951HD]

flylo is talking about Desiigner

[@DestructiveWizard]

HE IS PRETTY COOL THOUGH

[@JarrelEmmanuel]

Lotus is blatantly talking about Future.

[@leonbuitron]

+TheBlack JohnWayne i'm intrigued

[@Barney-ii1no]

+TheBlack JohnWayne i thought he was talking about the baking soda tune

[@Corehee]

+TheBlack JohnWayne nah he was talking about Fetty Wap

[@FrenchGoatReady]

nah.. iz Yatchy lmao

[@Slame333]

Love these conversations. They're fantastic. So intellectual. So engaging. Love P's connection to James Brown and how he did the same sort of things with Adkins and spewing nonsense lots of the time. James Brown just felt what was right and did it on the spot. "The Payback" is a great example of it. Basic baseline, melody, and lyrics, but other than that, he just says what he wants to, following the flow and direction of the song.

[@maxwell_young]

i love these. can you watch the full interviews anywhere? also pharrells chanel glasses r so dope

[@alienmonkei]

I could sit and listen to this for an hour I wish they'll just upload uncut video videos of these interviews

[@earthworldserver]

Scott Vener did the right thing .

[@SuHAibLOL]

I just want to rock come back but with some experimentation and progression! Maybe taking some of these new elements of hip hop that make it great right now, like the shit FlyLo is doing, and seeing how they work with good old tube sound.

[@tezmaniagotbeats]

Hip hop is a culture with genres like rap and trap to me, such as Soul, with Neol Soul and Jazz Neo Soul and etc

[@oolafoolafensen4962]

i wish flylo would have had a chance to get in on the convo

[@LoneTravler10101]

well said pharrell. in all essence the world keeps spinning, old trends are improvised to build a new history while remaining connected to the past in honor of ancestors.

[@KayPfromthaD]

The James Brown thing was a GREAT POINT

[@CrescimoneMatt]

Pharrell is completely right on this one. Using that OG Maco song as an example of this 'new school' was pretty on point as well. There's so much wrong with the interviewer's position (that said, he's allowed to like whatever he wants to). We're talking about music here. If you're a traditional rap fan, so much of what you're attracted to is not just the music but the poetry. And that's cool. And there are still rappers who do that kind of thing. It's dumb to act like it doesn't exist. It does, and it's easy to find, it's just not as popular. But guys like Pharrell, myself, and really most people I think, mainly just care about the music. The lyrics can add to that, but their biggest contribution is attitude and vibe rather storytelling or wit (at least if we're talking about this modern rap stuff). And that's more of a musical thing than having to do with language. It's pushing the music forward, into something new. That what I and so many other people love. There is gold there, and there's tunes we'll consider classics 15 years from now. It's just not about the 'rapping'. Guys like this interviewer are longing for a certain marriage of language and music. But they just call it 'music' or 'rap', when really it's a specific combination of two mediums. All these new school artists, it's more about the one medium of music (also the two medium combo of audio and visual). These two different type of rap fans are really talking about two different types of music, but they don't realize it, so the oldheads get annoyed when Young Thug is put into the same category as Rakim. But it's really not the same category.

[@Don7star]

+Idiots depends on what you're trying to do. Lyrics can be utterly irrelevant if you execute it right.

[@CrescimoneMatt]

***** Ok, thanks for letting me know you didn't read a few paragraphs. lol. But that's exactly what I'm saying man. Lyrics and music are not objectively equally important. Maybe to you they are, but not to everyone. Some stuff can stand alone just by how good the music is, just as some stuff can stand alone just by how good the lyrics are. Of course they're usually intertwined, but they aren't always. Whether you like it or not, they can be separated. Words are technically not music. The way the words sound - the cadence, the melody, whatever - that's the musical aspect.

[@CrescimoneMatt]

***** "False presumptions"...okay, check the charts. What rap stuff is the biggest right now? It's generally the stuff that isn't considered very 'lyrically mature'

[@TheBariNoZ]

+Idiots its funny to spot those involved in making music and those who are not. p diddy might be in this bitch making sure the next generation is on point to receive his features. I read your comment Matt but it's boring, didn't care for it. The video. Dope beyond my wildest dream. I agree with Flylo on producer keep the gold. I always thought producers dumb down their beats. Stuff they know they love but don't feel like putting it out. Happens to everyone. 10 tracks later they mastered the light yet powerfull way sooo ... in the end, the music is in the stars! Lyrics is just a tool, yes it's important. And yes without songwriting you wouldn't LOVE a song that much. However, you said word are not music, i disagree very much. At end it's just a file and you clic, could be a trillion same file with the same extension same name, you just have to get THE FEELING RIGHT. I guess.. there is no secret. Just pick a lane and jump to the opposite, dig a hole, drop a bomb in it and throw yourself in it. Also, don't pay attention to idiots who don't know the difference between i like it and it's okay to like it.

[@TheBariNoZ]

beauty in the chaos. also music needs to be personal, intimate, have different perspective. i love 360 music like j cole. it just makes you feel human. JANUARY 28TH.

[@azc29103]

Flying Lotus and Pharrell producing a track together would sound incredible

[@godjesus3232]

they have dude multiple tracks lololol

[@Goldenxomedy]

Most people’s life is much more complex now that we prefer most times to feel good than to listen to stories, we see and watch stories all day in social media but still some of us we love to hear stories

[@JamesRhymerFilms]

Scott Vener legit just called DJ's & Producers becoming the rockstars "sad", right in front of Flying Lotus. LOL wow.

[@brokemogulradio]

+JamesRhymerFilms ha nah, i said it was sad that rock guy is trying to get a feature.

[@madtonesbr]

+JamesRhymerFilms In front of both FlyLo AND Pharrell. I know he fancies himself a curator (i.e. professional music listener) but it seems his tastes always involve looking backwards, never forward. This is why he didn't realize how dumb what he said was. Sorry Scott but there's more great stuff than ever now. Expand your horizons and dig around; we're not even dependent on major labels any more. If you really think the only examples of lyrical classics these days are Kendrick's albums, you're not doing your job.

[@Oleg666]

Omg I just found this! Amazing!

[@78percent34]

damn og maco got a shout out lol

[@BigBangTheory92]

+IAin't Nervous I just tweeted him this video. Lol

[@BrokenBrainStudios]

awesome

[@Throwboy]

I agree with Pharrell. Well put man.

[@Greaterthanthou]

I could feel Scott's point of view way more... change isn't always a good thing. Although hip-hop survived the No Limit/Cash Money 'movement' before and I'm sure it can ride this one out.

[@kristines4987]

+James Yeah I agree - I thought Scotts remark about music today sometimes being watered down, was really interesting. It was too bad that they didn´t follow up on that topic. It feels like Pharrell had an idea in his head that he was right, without really giving time/space to think about the counter-arguements.

[@thomasgledhill3706]

The way I see these "Mumble rap" artists or soundcloud rappers is like avant garde music. Jack the Dripper is essentially not very talented but his art was innovative and well received. Art in all mediums changes, and some artists push the extremes to where it makes you question whether something is good or not... All credit to the Based God, Lil B for being the moon to create the current waves.

[@Artrial]

well done

[@kristines4987]

But it´s also called change when music becomes more commercial, image-based and focused around hitting sales-numbers. I don´t think all change is necessarily for the better - not initially anyways. But I agree that good will always prevail, because people will eventually get sick of it (f.ex. commerciality/being spoken to primarily as a consumer), and start demanding more depth/quality.

[@oriole2430]

+kristine s Exactly. No matter what the current movement is, the people will always pick their true champion.

[@kristines4987]

+Skechers Yes, I agree. I really like Beastie Boys fex., and I find a lot of their stuff more musically relevant, poignant and giving even today - than for example Desiigner. Even though it was made maybe 15 years ago. To me it actually also sounds "fresher" than a lot of the new stuff - because it´s crafted well. In my opinion :-) I embrace that music changes parametres with every generation, but if the focus mainly becomes on image and being "cool" in a certain way (almost like reality-TV) - then to me that´s lazy music, and I would rather listen to any other music, that is alive with passion.

[@Dalastlama]

Is there a full video Podcast? If so I will give money

[@qabriel649]

Capatint Murphy....hmm how much i appreciate this man

[@TheRnbf]

Agree with both sides to be honest. Pharrell is right we should embrace change, and this current style could be the foundation to take rap to a new level. But the whites guy was right in a sense that there seems to be a lack of talent right now. Take r&b, how many people can actually sing right now, Apart from frank ocean, Miguel and a few other unknowns. Worse still I'm sure there's some great singers out there who can't get on as this isn't the right era for them. The floodgates have definitely opened especially if you have a marketable image, you don't even need the talent.

[@davyboi1703]

what the website that they were talking about to get older music

[@TennyWhyte]

I think ultimately what Flylo and P are saying is; no matter your musical preference - which can morph over time, it's all about detecting the sweet spot.

[@naturalmente703]

Good

[@socjaime]

Very interesting to hear this guys having different opinions and perspectives... amazing!

[@jgolatt09]

#TeamPharell

[@timswell7818]

8:30 what does he say? going onto ... ?

[@pikamamma]

great convo

[@BgStream]

dope hat P.

[@alexhyde8377]

First time seeing Flying Lotus without sunglasses

[@ju908]

Flying Lotus talkin bout future

[@lil10dot]

there are more than plenty of lyricists out there today.... Chance, Earl, Gambino, Aesop, Bones, Gates, Raury, Lupe, to name a few out of many the 2000s was the same, we had the club bangers from 50, snoop and T.I. and whatever but we also had lyricists

[@naminamicapybara]

Damn does anybody know what theyre talking about at 8:30?? 'Restagram'?

[@barryk00da]

+naminamicapybara I always wondered where Flylo found his obscure samples

[@cstyle90]

+naminamicapybara i wanna know too

[@SonOfTheHenry]

+MmmHmm i would think he gets all his samples from crate digging. FlyLo doesn't seem like an eDigger.

[@ronthemogul]

i heard of some app under development that is like instagram for musicians. im sure thats what theyre talking about. i dont recall the name of it

[@SonOfTheHenry]

+thesmoothone Cymbal is out on ios already.

[@2ndglow]

very interesting !

[@llillilllilllill7270]

PHARRELL SPOKE THE WORD

[@liambaumann9883]

If you don't like mumble rap then listen to the underground lyrical rappers which there are more of than ever in history. I hate it when people complain about music without putting any effort into finding the good stuff.

[@bungguru6224]

Rock and/or country will be the next big thing in 10 years

[@christianmartinez8700]

where can i get those shades pharrell is wearing

[@Cholostallion]

It's plate tectonics

[@EvilEddtheRed]

The more I hear Pharrell Williams speak, the more like him.

[@WHYZMAN_]

Pharell is on some real shit here too

[@straightupkid]

Very interesting conversation

[@kierstinmendoza3634]

Holy fuck, let flylo talk!!! He has some shit to say! Maybe in 2004 I'd wanna hear Pharrell talk but right now??..let my man talk because he's doing things you wish you did. Ironic being the topic of conversation it is but you can tell how flylo is still in touch with reality as opposed to Pharrell.

[@MenaceFromMars]

I still want to know where Scott and flylo goes to find older music lmao anyone know where?

[@Didymusartist]

4:49 does anyone know what he is saying?

[@woogie4683]

Wow

[@trakzproductionz]

WHATS THE NAME OF THE SITE HE GOES TOO FOR OLDER MUSIC???? its fuckin muffled and the cc said "address the gram"...fail

[@cjpo]

Anyone know what camera they're using to film this?

[@DistortedBirth]

Where did he say he finds new music? couldn't get that one.

[@jbaby007]

Redo this with FlyLo talking more.

[@kenpointerII]

Shout out to the person or group of people that got FlyLo and Pharrell in the same room. And on another note ... Scott Verner looks a lot like Jonathan Ward (ICON 4x4).

[@Your_Conscience.]

both of them are right. its just the nuance of it.

[@SpikedCollar666]

what aphex twin song is gwen stefani's hollaback girl based off of? i cant find the answer anywhere on the web.

[@metalfacedoom71]

I have had this convo several times. I think the hip hop culture has been driven totally underground and 'rap' corporate music has taken over on radio play & MTV, etc. Pharrell is totally wrong about the 'music' changing as if Rakim, Chuck D, Krs-1 & Kane are equivalent to Drake, Lil Wayne and 50 Cent. They lyricism has suffered on mainstream played 'hip hop' - it still exists with Ghostface, Sean Price, DOOM, Oddisee, and a lot of others (Joey Bada$$ and other young rappers) but what gets played are commercially viable rappers like Kendrick & J Cole etc. Pharrell is partly responsible with watering down hip hop culture with his own projects in the last 5 years (it's been along time since his Pass the Courvoisier remix) and that is why he won't judge the modern era. He is a corporate trender sell out pop artist now

[@stillaslave]

+metalfacedoom71 100% agree metal fingers. Pharrell started in a good place but his projects got more and more questionable. Compare Superthug to Happy. more importantly i can't remember the older generation in the 90s ever saying the new hip hop was bad - never. They were jamming Biggie

[@dutchmasterblunt8613]

It's cause you purist rap heads don't even support when he was doing the street and underground songs. You cry bout pop culture but yet they support their fav artist and hip hop elitist don't even buy any CDs or albums on iTunes. You have no right to complain, the artist gotta eat

[@metalfacedoom71]

Dutchmaster Blunt bull$hit !! Krs 1 eats just fine as does Oddisee and Sean Price (RIP) without selling out the culture

[@abercrombiemisfitsiknew6106]

He’s just livin off his own vibe, and many love it because it’s completely different, ya know and in a way all the people you compared are equal, like the equivalent to what people grow up on now, and then it’s all perspective

[@abercrombiemisfitsiknew6106]

And yeah you obviously gotta respect the greats but It honestly doesn’t matter and I’m kinda just realizing this too, cause in music, you just gotta do you even if some don’t I guess

[@elpretochines]

Wise very wise

[@ItsMawuleyBiieeetch]

pharells outfit is fresh as fuck in this one

[@illexpreshun]

What am I, chopped liver?! lol, I thought I was the only person who still said that...

[@deathGod252]

OG MACO is the shit.

[@BBLpunisher]

nosaj thing tracklist?

[@christianmartinez8700]

what hashtags this man be using on insta

[@troyterry3226]

White guy had a point, popular hip hop from like 2007-2016 is disposable and hard to listen to after a year. Remember all the horrible popular rappers from the mid 2000's like Huey, Yung Joc, Gorilla Zoe, 2 Pistols, Jibbs, MIMS, DJ UNK, Dem Franchise Boys, The Weak Niggas That Made Party Like A Rockstar, Yung Berg, Rich Boy, Jody Breeze, Yung Wun I could go on forever. Sure it has started getting better around 2010 but it's still far from great.