Our Best Decks! | Is Galactus a Problem? | Best Cards this Season [Marvel Snap Chat #26]

[@hankshumaker4711]

Thanks! I got hit by a car walking across the street Thanksgiving weekend. It was bad. I had begun playing SNAP shortly before the accident. I was bedridden for 2 months and I'm sure you can understand what that did to my mood and mind. When I left the hospital after a month and went to the nursing home it's environment made me worse. The accident left me homeless, and soon all my savings was gone and credit cards maxed. Then one day I accidentally found Snapchat with you two. It didn't just help my SNAP game but watching you both separate and together literally saved my life. I just began walking regularly with the help of a walker and hopefully in a month can leave the nursing home and start the next part of my journey as I'll be moving in with friends. Thank you both so much for your content. It introduced me to a world I could visit when mine became to painful to sustain. Kudos again to you both

[@AlexanderCoccia]

This is, without question, one of the most heartfelt comments I have ever read. Thank you so much for your kind words, and I sincerely hope things turn around for you. Its heartbreaking to hear what you've gone through over the past several months, but on behalf of both Cozy and I, we sincerely wish you the best and hope that you have a full recovery. Thank you for sharing your story

[@JStack]

Wishing you a full and speedy recovery, and your mindset through this is gonna pay huge dividends on the side. Hope you enjoy living with friends and enjoy Snap and it's community

[@hankshumaker4711]

@@JStack thank you for your words. You only stay broken if you allow yourself too. What's lost can be found unless you stop looking for it. Too many have ended their search too soon and it's never too late to pick up a forgotten search. Once again thank you and in the great philosopher Snapster's words, stay hydrated

[@ellachino4799]

​@Brandon Khouli where did you read that it helped him to walk? He was saying that snap gave him something to do while going through a hard time. Despair is a powerful thing.

[@solidusnake_s3451]

🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@PancitCanton999]

Thanks Alex for all the positivity and deck guides this season. Looking forward to your updates on the Guardians Greatest Hits season!

[@AlexanderCoccia]

Thank you for your support! Much love!!

[@AlexanderCoccia]

Thank you for your support! If you like the podcast, we would appreciate a thumbs up!! It helps a lot

[@emmanuelpaquette3310]

Great videos guys once again. I appreciated the moderate and thoughtful discussion on Galactus. As a Galactus player who used him for my last 2 infinite I can say that you hit the button Spiderman and doc OC are the annoying part about him for the most part. I used him in like 500 games and used Spiderman doctor octopus like in 15 games I abandoned that boring brain dead style of gameplay. I'm one of the person who created Mr negative Galactus months ago and I've only ever seen it against me once. With enchantress shangshi super Skrull my turn 6 turn is never safe it's high risk high reward that's where I think he is fun and gives the opponent much more of a fighting chance. Reworking is ability could kill him completely but perhaps making spider a 3 cost who can't be played past turn 4 that would be amazing and enough of a nerf. Because let's not forget he's a 50% win rate card he can get nerf to the ground easily. Making him a 6-4 to 6-6 range is outside of Spiderman is a solid nerf with the priority dance.Have a nice day guys and the community and have a safe and sane Galactus discussions on the forums if that's possible :D

[@AlexanderCoccia]

Thank you for the kind words and support! Im glad you liked the discussion!!

[@DevineCourage]

Something that ran past my mind that would allow Hulkbuster to be played more, maybe when the card is used it fully protects the card from being destroyed. This will help with the usage of the card and will also help 1 cost cards in the long run.

[@AlexanderCoccia]

SUCH A COOL IDEA!

[@An.Unsought.Thought]

I love that! Basically, it merges but also adds the "Can't be moved or destroyed" text that Colossus has.

[@TheBoggian1]

When I got that card, I tought it worked that way. LoL

[@DevineCourage]

@@An.Unsought.Thought exactly !!!!

[@dbroooo]

I would listen to Alex and cozy discuss non marvel snap stuff. Great chemistry between the two.

[@august360]

Absolutely, I missed them dearly last week.

[@ABPOSE5]

You and Cozy should do a Guardians of the Galaxy themed friend battle on Friday to celebrate the movie release.

[@MiaChillfox]

How about changing Galactus ability so that he changes the location to one that does something like this: Nothing can stop anyone from playing cards here. Cards can be moved here on turn 6. Destroys the other locations at the end of the game. That way, you still get to play cards or move cards to the Galactus locations before the game ends.

[@jfreak888]

I think giving Galactus the effect to destroy the lane he is played in is way more interesting than what he is now. Counter the opponents important lane and make them plan around winning the other two lanes or a tiebreaker with the remaining lanes.

[@JStack]

43:54 another thing to keep in mind with galactus, especially with Iron Lad coming out, is that the amount of times he can proc is gonna double in those decks. And if you Zabu 2, Lad 3 into galactus text, that will cause some quick uninstalls

[@ydgmdlu]

Turn three Galactus is terrible for the Galactus player. Why do you think that it's a good idea?

[@kRy-ps5jz]

@@ydgmdlu might I ask why that’s bad for Galactus?

[@m7mad182]

Ironlad is gonna get changed he's so broken 😂

[@MiaChillfox]

@@ydgmdlu I don't think Galactus players care much if they win or lose... They just love playing Galactus. I have had soo many games against Galactus where they drop Galactus, hit fist pump emoji, then retreat. All they want to do is play Galactus and see that animation.

[@teke367]

Galactus for me has served primarily to clear out "Make Opponent Retreat" or "Win game with a snap" missions. I would like a different mechanic for him because at this point, I only use him when I want to clear certain missions, and not anytime else.

[@marshallvidulich8984]

Honestly, Cozy's kill bounce deck is absolutely nuts. People just don't expect you to be able to drop 2 deaths, 2 She-hulks and 2 hit monkeys on turn 6. Huge high rolls, but also really consistent and so much fun!

[@ledpowz]

Glad it doesn’t sound broken or unfair. But who cares when you win ;) really a game made for losers.

[@theonlyron]

@@ledpowz POV: You have been bronze rank since January

[@ledpowz]

@@theonlyron "I play unbalanced decks" - "because you're a loser and suck otherwise?" - "no!!! you must suck!!! I play unbalanced decks!!! I win so much!!! Im so good!!!" xD qed: a game made for total losers

[@theonlyron]

@@ledpowz "a game made for losers" If it's made for losers, does that make you a loser for playing it? If you don't play it, doesn't that make you even more of a loser for watching other people play it? The world is so much more fun if you would release all of the hate inside you.

[@ledpowz]

@@theonlyron I channel the hate where it belongs or comes from - it's pretty easy. The game tries to f*ck up you brain and tries to condition you, and my brain just dislikes it. The game is poorly balanced, the core is rotten, and the people behind it only care about MTX and condition you even more. So... I'm sorry I am human and for having feelings towards things ;)

[@jasta5657]

Alex is infinite rank in complimenting Cozy. He's the best hype man.

[@AlexanderCoccia]

COZY IS THE GOAT

[@TheBigTunaMunster]

I really think they need to bring pool 3 cards back to the token shop. Give them their own section or something because trying to become pool 3 complete now is a real slog

[@RolandMIA71]

The only problem with Galactus is that it’s boring,winning with it is boring,losing to him is boring 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@chrisedwards6606]

It is the same cards almost all the time. Yes it is counterable but it is so repetitive and boring to play against people who play or play it myself. Nothing new or original to it.

[@nathankeunen9572]

KNEEL BEFORE GALACTUS

[@RolandMIA71]

@@nathankeunen9572 believe me I know the line,I’ve done it to enough people

[@ydgmdlu]

It's not boring if you run a nontraditional Galactus deck.

[@chrisedwards6606]

@@ydgmdlu and to those that do I stay the game win or lose. The problem is that almost 1 in 5 games is a Galactus deck running the same exact cards all the time. I liked another's idea of rework to were Galactus destroys the location to the left and absorbs the power destroyed. Makes more sense with how the character eats worlds for energy

[@virtual930]

My biggest problem with Galactus is Snap is a game where you need to win 2 out of 3 lanes and I built a deck to do that. Galactus players get to say no we aren't playing that game anymore, we are playing a game that my deck is built for.

[@ledpowz]

There are two kinds of decks, control decks to fuck up the deck of the opponent and broken cards like sera, darkhawk, patriot, Galactus etc, which have a clear power asymmetrie. Snap is a toxic PoS game

[@warreningreborn6517]

Cozy! I am a fellow Zabu enjoyer! I have so far played Zabu 1,149 times. He took me to infinite as well (and to rank 40 as well). I love him in Hawks and Rocks, Zabu Surfer, and Toxic Sentry. Love the guy!

[@glasspretender]

Glad you guys talked about some of the MCU movies! Been looking forward to hearing your thoughts for a while

[@ChaosPro_]

Winter solider is my absolute favorite. I’ve actually watched it close to 50 actual times

[@OratoryJamesIV]

Hell yes. It's the best because it broke from the usual MCU mold of endless action/quipping, and gave us an awesome spy thriller.

[@tphil5901]

It's my #3 Infinity war is my rewatch king. Also 50+ times. When it was on Netflix before Disney + released... It was on every other night

[@RickReasonnz]

Totally. Rewatched it the other day. Still just as good as the first time. Actually feels like its own film.

[@ChaosPro_]

@@RickReasonnz hard facts

[@GetMiked]

I've been loving the Hit Monkey decks this season, both bounce and otherwise. I've not only reached Plat for the first time but Diamond too. Hoping this trend continues. Thanks for all your hard work with these podcasts :)

[@Raphmatic5000]

Great episode guys! Hulkbuster on Jeff is interesting, it's like a much earlier Vision, and it leaves your turn 5 open for other plays. When it comes to Big G, I don't hate him in a vaccuum. There are two things that I hate about it: the amount of play that he gets, and the toxicity of the person playing the deck. Sometimes, deep in a session, I forget that the opponent has initiative, I snap, and then Galactus triggers before my counter. And then it comes: the emote spam. I had a day where I faced Wave 6 games in a row: the first 4 were Galactus, the next two were Leader. The emotional damage that day did to me still lingers. the Spider-Man after Gally is toxic. I feel less bad when the opponent does it on Sinister. In a normal day though, I face him 2 - 3 times, and I pilot DeathWave and Sera Control the most now, and they have answers for Big G. Just like with Shuri, I don't plan on not playing solutions to Big G, until his play rate goes down.

[@stygiansabyss]

Have you thought about nebula and lizard? Forcing the opponent to have 2 lanes they want to play into

[@TeamMagicLifeOfficial]

Thanks

[@AlexanderCoccia]

Hey I know this is super late but thank you so much for your super thanks! YT added a way for me to see them on mobile and so I just popped up in my feed. Thank you so much for your support!!

[@Brionkendo]

Love listening to the audio version. Just came here to support!

[@AlexanderCoccia]

Much appreciated!!

[@shanedbunting]

Galatus breaks the illusion for players . When you loose to patriot ultron you look at the board and say ah if i did this instead i could have had it. Loosing to galatus feels worse because even though you lose either way with all the locations still there you xan convince your self you uad a chance .

[@JStack]

24:13 been running prof X because I pulled a cool variant for him from a cache. Prof X a galactus play and then watching them retreat as i ms marvel emote is transcendent

[@ErikRedin]

I think the biggest issue with Galactus is Marvel Snap is all about big turn 6 plays and the feeling of satisfaction when you win the game with your turn 6 play, but with Galactus games, you almost never reach turn 6. If you successfully counter Galactus with Prof X, Juggernaut, Polaris, etc., that Galactus player is retreating immediately. And if you fail to counter Galactus, then it's almost inevitable that you'll have to retreat. Which basically means Galactus takes the most fun element out of the game.

[@ydgmdlu]

A lot of cards limit or take away explosive turn-six plays. It's not just Galactus.

[@ErikRedin]

@@ydgmdlu My point wasn't that Galactus restricts "explosive turn-six plays", it was that Galactus eliminates turn six entirely. You're almost never playing turn six. It's essentially an auto-retreat on one side or the other. My apologies if that wasn't clear.

[@juliotorres3147]

@@ydgmdlu and all those cards still allow for outplay. Meaning you don’t need an exact counter like Galactus. Galactus is do I have priority and the exact counter card I need? No? Lose. Yes? Win. BORING.

[@ellachino4799]

​​@@ydgmdlu what is your point? Are you trying to pretend that Galactus isn't problematic? And before you say that he's not op blah blah blah I don't think he's op at all. But he is a cheesy gimmick that massively restrains deckbuilding since the counterplay to him rarely makes sense in most decks.

[@ydgmdlu]

@@juliotorres3147 you must be a bad player if you think that beating Galactus is all about having an "exact counter" and reveal priority. Tell me, how do you "outplay" Daredevil + Professor X? How do you "outplay" Storm + Juggernaut? In both cases, you have to concede that location and fight for one of the others. Fighting for one final location is exactly what Galactus makes players do. And what about Storm + Professor (AKA the double lock-down strategy)? How do you "outplay" Sandman + Leader? Really, all that Galactus does is blow up your cards; it's not dramatically more restrictive than those other combos. You're just complaining because you don't want to see your board get deleted.

[@FiestaTX17]

Now this is gonna be surprising, but dazzler and Shanna have been my MVP’s so far, the surprise zoo is a lot of fun to play and they never suspect ultron. Shadow King and Daredevil are still my two favorite cards though. Great Podcast!

[@AlexanderCoccia]

SO MANY HOT TAKES IN THIS COMMENT I LOVE IT

[@Zagreus.]

45:46 I swear the matchmaking does look at decks to some degree. So many times I’ll play against nothing but Zoo all day and then I pop Killmonger in the same deck I’ve been playing and all the sudden no more Zoo decks.

[@LesGrosPiedsDeDeejay]

Some "counters" are 50/50 though Cosmo, Polaris, Magneto can miss you have to do a guessing game and it's not ok . The real problem with galactus is how common he is , it's how common you play against 3 or 4 galactus decks in a row even tho it's not the strongest kind of decks . Galactus also punish you for playing which is absolutely not ok

[@SlatePunchgroin]

I want to olay Marvel Snap, not Marvel Galactus. Having to play a counter in my deck, regardless of synergys, because of one card for the life of the game is just really really bad

[@MrBidou974]

Indeed, and if before playing galactus he set up a green goblin and hobgoblin you cant do a shit x) this card is stupid and make other cards stupid and not fun

[@leonardovarelaoxchufwud4309]

I'm one of those who don't see a problem with Galactus, the card has multiple counters. But I can definitely understand some of the *VALID* complains (I'm sorry but I don't think "the card is unfun" is a valid complain, for example, fun is subjective). The biggest issue I see people have with the card/deck doesn't necessarily rely on Galactus, and that's what's funny in my opinion; people hate "GALACTUS", but, sometimes, when you hear/read what are their issues with "Galactus", their issue is either Galactus being played before turn 6, or what happens AFTER Galactus is played. Well, guys, if those are the real issues, then perhaps the solution is not nerfing Galactus, but taking a look at energy manipulation cards such as Wave and Eelectro, and maybe changing how cards like Spiderman and Knull interact with Galactus (without nerfing the cards directly).

[@JStack]

I like how you claim “fun,” is subjective, but your opinions aren’t lmao

[@pigpotty]

Yes, Galactus is the problem. He changes the rules of the game in a drastic way that punishes your opponent for thinking they were playing a game of Marvel Snap and not Galactus Snap.

[@leonardovarelaoxchufwud4309]

@@JStack Yes, what's fun and unfun is TOTALLY subjective, that's not my opinion, it's a simple fact. What's fun to you might be boring to others, what's unfun to me might be super entertaining to many people. Some people enjoy playing Patriot decks, which I honestly find a little bit boring; I absolutely love Hela and Mister Negative decks for how unpredictable (even for the person piloting the decks) they are, which is the reason why many people hates them. Even if you think there is, there's not an objective definition of "fun", because fun comes from enjoyment, and we all enjoy different things.

[@leonardovarelaoxchufwud4309]

Well, that's one of the valid complains I see often about Galactus, but the same can be said about other cards too, like Sandman (a card that prevents you from playing cards in a card game is obviously changing the rules of the game).

[@m7mad182]

Galactus player spotted 😂😅

[@joshuaflint9132]

Always enjoy listening to you both 🫡 RE Galactus - While listening to you, I did wonder what would happen if they altered his card to add that all cards are destroyed permanently to prevent Wolverine bounces. It wouldn't prevent Spider-Man/Doc Ock which I agree is one of the worst parts of facing those decks (usually as you don't have a counter in your hand lined up) but it might just reduce the power in a Galactus lane going into those last turns or turn.

[@joshuaflint9132]

Saying this, I hope this wouldn't happen as Nimrod would be nerfed hard!

[@PatrickBrophy]

A real problem with Galactus and Death Wave is that the destroy synergies are just way better than basically any other archetype. If they gave other playstyles the love that destroy has gotten in card variety and locations, it’d really go a long way into maybe reducing how much they get played.

[@filipratkovic5561]

I play this game every other month, and push to Infinity every time. I've stopped in 90s this time. Before we maybe had a boring Galactus, Shuri, Thanos rotation, but now it's just Galactus and I'll just rather put on a different game than constant repetition

[@TeamMagicLifeOfficial]

Watching this immediately

[@truemrfu9673]

I’ve been playing snap since launch and finally deleted it because of Galactus. You guys touched on almost everything, but I will add one thing that I disagree with you guys on: When I comes to the cubes, I stopped caring about cubes and just enjoyed playing the game. I enjoyed seeing every game to the end, even if I lose. But with about 10% of my games being against a Galactus, I hated playing against that deck. It actively upset me and so I finally just deleted the game. I may download it again once the high evolutionary drops becasue he seems cool. And I hope they change Galactus by then. Or make things like armor and professor X save a location.

[@t-vann48]

Personally my thing with Galactus is it is in my opinion an incredibly boring deck. Its uninteractive to play against and it sucks to lose or win against it. The galactus player gets countered, they immediately retreat. They dont get countered, you just lose. First three turns dont matter cause turn 4 everything is wiped out and the opponent just takes it. Ive played quite a bit of galactus, i didnt mind it early on, but the current playstyle is just infuriating and terribly boring.

[@t-vann48]

I think the bigger problem is his current prevalence in even like low ranks. I had a pretty bad season, havent been able to play a ton so I'm ending the season in the 60's and I was seeing Galactus about 40% of the time in rank 40. Most of these players never saw this card before now, they dont know how to counter it at all.

[@perugo7499]

Well done with the content! My personal opinion about Galactus is, as long as the decks itself is not a problem in terms of winrate, there's no actual reason to nerf it. I do not aggree on the Sandman nerf, since despite its popularity, probably caused by the fact that the deck was relatively easy to make and replace, its wr was absolutely acceptable. Decks popularity issues should be solved by making the cards acquisition sistem more affordable for new end veteran players, not by deleting cards.

[@joseph2000117]

Sandman could be changed to a 5/4 and it'll be good. I play him and shuri in a move deck where I can win if they only play shang. He should however be a powerful tech card, not an archetype ( imagine a Leech archetype)

[@BlackDesantos93]

I don’t hate Galactus. They paid 6000 token to play boring deck. But I really hate Wong + WT + Odin, Storm + Wong + Doom. I almost always have Cosmo in my hand. The only time I lost to Wong is when they have the priority. Damn. It’s really frustrating. And it’s looks more like a brain dead play than Shuri + RedSkull or Galactus.

[@coolshirtkid]

jeff is the first normal card i bought at 6k tokens and i have no regrets! completely removes the fear of playing new lizard because he slots so well into every deck you’d run lizard in. i’m most excited for iron lad next season he’s gonna be insane

[@fedond1133]

Y'all are pros. Love the podcast and watching your side. Btw thanks to you both

[@Spectruz]

How about galactus txt says “ you can’t play on revel here next turn”

[@animalunleashed3812]

I hear you Alex. My fav deck is Dino Surprise. (Sunspot, Agent 13, Quin Jet, Collector, Sentinel, Cable, Armor, Coulson, Mystique, Moon, DD, She Hulk) So many different win paths.

[@ashKechup2813]

Galactus is one of those cards that’s only fun for the person playing it

[@markmurex6559]

Yep. He needs to be able to destroy just one location or something.

[@ashKechup2813]

I would’ve say to be able to nerf it without getting rid of the point of the card would be to make it to where he destroys the locations after the turn ends this way the opponent can play there cards

[@Psa22-6]

Ive had fun against it and using it, its not hard to beat

[@timlawrence7204]

Favorite MCU movie, the first Avenger movie. Just seeing everyone come together for the first time was awesome. Worst MCU movie... Iron Man 3. They did Mandarin so very, very wrong. Keep up the awesome content Alex!

[@Firetroll]

You clearly didn't watch the end of the movie or Shang-Chi

[@Captain_El]

Honestly loved hearing your thoughts on the MCU in the beginning, I'm also a fan of Captain Marvel despite the negative reception.

[@thegamermaks4316]

Magneto'ing a Dracula over to my Kingpin on T6 is one of the most satisfying things in this game 😂😂😂

[@CriticalBill-eh2fm]

I love the big G man! I've only ever used him with my negative deck though as he's one of three win conditions. 60% of the time he's already in hand and I never play him when he is.

[@theonlyron]

I have watch these videos on mute because Cozy's shirts are always so LOUD! Haha, I dig them though! Another good episode, as always. Random topics are the best topics.

[@AlexanderCoccia]

Cozy's shirts are the highlight of the show. Literally!

[@philwille4182]

Alex - I’ve used a Discard deck to hit Infinite the last two seasons. Two recommendations: Ghost Rider instead of sword master. And Jug over Shang Chi. Why? Ghost Rider lets you play Lady Siff and Coleen Wing even when they aren’t hitting your desired targets AND it is predictable. Nothing better than killing MODOK on three and just bringing him back on five unexpectedly. I like Jug for ruining Galactus and often I find myself needing a play at round three if I didn’t catch Lady Siff. Food for thought. Keep up the awesome content!!!

[@AlexanderCoccia]

Awesome stuff! I'll have to give it a shot!!

[@CogDisso]

Speaking as a Galactus player last season (went infinite before the Shuri nerf), Polaris was definitely a huge thorn in my side and seemed to counter me even more than Cosmo and Debrii.

[@dynoFF30]

I’ve been including Mbaku with Modok. No one expects him, and he’s either a discarded card or jumps from the deck for +2 power on potentially an unplayable lane (and slight counter to R&H)

[@AlexanderCoccia]

oooooooo cool idea!

[@Swanntanamobay]

I was running a turn 6 Galactus, and the problem is, it’s not a surprise even then

[@An.Unsought.Thought]

Not a surprise, but at least it requires planning on your part and the one facing off against Galactus doesn't feel so bad. The health of the game needs to take both sides of the board into consideration. That's why Leader got nerfed. Leech and Magik more specifically got nerfed along the same lines because some cards just shouldn't be played before they were designed to.

[@roscoerobertson6607]

Alex…. When Onslaught Citadel was hot i played 36 Galactus players in about 50 games. I kid you not. Also i figured when you change decks the matchmaking changes the opponents and either puts you against counters or mirrors. I did a few tests with a few decks and it was insane how the matchmaking works.

[@AlexanderCoccia]

Thats INSANE lol

[@swedishZ0mBi3]

Alex, I wanted to share my variation of the sera monkey control deck that got me to infinite super quick: 1) Nova 2) Angela 3) Hit monkey 4) Zabu 5) Jeff 6) Sentinel 7) Mysterio 8) Bishop 9) Kill monger 10) Shang-Chi 11) Enhantress 12) Sera

[@AlexanderCoccia]

Cool deck!!

[@TMGSeanVODs]

I dunno if this would make Galactus better or just terrible, but what if they added another effect that gives any card you play to that location lose their ability like Zero? Or gives your opponent priority while in play? Maybe both, along with some power adjustment?

[@ydgmdlu]

Galactus players usually want their opponents to have priority though.

[@TMGSeanVODs]

Ah. Then maybe always gives you priority. I dunno. I'm still relatively new to the game.

[@Dan-sc2pi]

Shang-Chi is #1 in my book... that was amazing on all levels (drama, comedy, action, suspense)

[@tphil5901]

I respect the selection.. but it doesn't reach the top ten for me.

[@Dan-sc2pi]

@@tphil5901 There are a high number of very good films, so I can understand that... for me it is definitely #1, but I could see arguments for at least 10 others

[@tphil5901]

@@Dan-sc2pi hey don't get new wrong though. Loved the film

[@KYeung-be4lw]

@@tphil5901 clearly you have 9+ power then :)

[@andrewgirard1688]

Winter Soldier was my favorite movies for YEARS, probably still is

[@overheaven8875]

Fought 12 different galactus decks one night and felt like i was simply fated to not have a board

[@kelarax]

Dude, the bus scene in Shang Chi was freaking WILD.

[@AlexanderCoccia]

I have to watch it lol

[@scottie771]

Galactus is a card that is not fun at all to play against, because he is combined with other tilting cards, like Doc Oc and Hobgoblin or Spiderman. You are able to add 1-2 cards to counter it but it doesn't seem to be as consistent as the number of times the opponents have their full combo in hand. I've been seeing Galactus so much that it made me play the game less altogether for the last two months 😞

[@TheBigTunaMunster]

Thor Ragnarok and Winter Soldier are 2 of my personal favorites.

[@Andrew00279]

I honestly think there is some kind of deck based matchmaking going on. I've had such weird matchmaking things happen when I switch between decks

[@ydgmdlu]

You only notice when it seems to happen but you never notice when it doesn't happen. This is called "confirmation bias." If you did a large scale, scientific experiment with hundreds or thousands of games and take meticulous records of each match-up, you'll see that the matchmaking results are indistinguishable from random in terms of the decks that you see. What motivation does Second Dinner have for coding an algorithm to match specific deck archetypes together? And why/how would that algorithm only benefit your opponents but not you? You are always someone else’s opponent, so the alleged algorithm can only benefit/hurt all players equally.

[@Andrew00279]

@@ydgmdlu Oh I have no doubt that's the case but it realllly feels like an algorithm at times

[@Andrew00279]

@@ydgmdlu There is actually a pretty large motivation is keeping players around a 50% win ratio though. It creates thoughts like "If I just had this one card in my collection.."

[@eveengineer4147]

For fixing part of the Galactus package Second Dinner should change Spiderman, so that he can only web down a lane if it's possible for you to play a card in another lane. This not only fixes him in Galactus but also fixes him from bricking people final turns just because of bad locations.

[@PenguinPoo4246]

I laughed so hard when you said trying to make bounce and move work. I climbed to infinate with a bounce move deck and it’s actually really fun and good. Snapster has a video on it

[@AlexanderCoccia]

I am bad tho :C

[@joshuaarnaud993]

You would be shocked the number of times I wave galactus Spiderman, and cannot actually win the lane next turn, but it causes people to quit

[@joebensmith9772]

I was wondering if you and cozy could go through some of the lingo, like tempo, ramp, nope out, and cheat. Just for those of us that don't know what what these terms mean.

[@AlexanderCoccia]

Hey! I'll try to keep that in mind next time!!

[@nerdherder9340]

Okoye in the sera monkey deck is insane because if it hits mysterio it buffs the clones

[@tobypry9833]

Totally agree Alex. Winter Soldier was awesome.

[@swedishZ0mBi3]

Great podcast guys

[@Andrew00279]

You're not wasting enchantress on morbius when its the only ongoing in the deck usually

[@granitetheglitche1254]

I think the problems with Galactus are so layered that it might be useful to just list them all just to show how frustrating it can be, even when I don't necessarily agree (feel free to leave any I miss in the comments) 1. Galactus wipes the board and actively punishes you for playing on curve. Obviously he's killing your cards and powering up a potential Knull but the priority dance you play every time Galactus comes down is almost always in the Galactus player's favor if their opponent is actively playing the game. 2. Doc Ock the turn before robs your opponent of their counters. Sure, doesn't work on Debrii but pretty much every other counter Cozy listed can be nullified by Doc. Green Goblin, Shang-chi, Aero, Super Skrull, Cosmo... you get the picture. Sure, you could argue that Cosmo or Goblin should be down before Ock comes out but if your opponent leaves two lanes open or there's a location that makes that impossible then what? So, if you recognize that your opponent is playing Galactus and hold your cards to counter it, Ock punishes you for doing so which blows. 3. Spider-man. It's ever so fun to not be able to play the game! Honestly, I don't think Spider-man is even that bad, it eliminates the possibility for you to go for the counter and end up losing after all, but it nonetheless feels bad. Mostly because Galactus already stops you from playing the game effectively but then Spider-man just doubles down on that frustration. 4. Galactus is a very expensive deck. Galactus and Knull alone are more tokens than most players would be prepared to save. I think sometimes us pool 3 completers forget what it feels like to lose to a card that you just don't have. Like, not only have you never played the deck before and thus it probably seems way better than it is (cause the opponent retreats if they don't pull Galactus or ramp) but most of the Galactus counters are pool 3 and thus early pool 3 players probably don't have them. After all, we rarely hear about Devil Dino being broken despite the fact that he's one of the most consistent cards in the game, probably because everyone has him. Galactus makes the game seem like it's pay to win which is never a good look. 5. Sometimes you just don't pull your counter. Slightly less bad then having it get whisked away by Ock but still, if you only have one card in your deck that counters Galactus, it's very possible you never pull it. Maybe this is why Sera tech decks are super popular right now. 6. Galactus wastes your time. Sure, it's only a one or two cube loss each time Galactus gets to pop off but if you only get to play a few games a day that's probably multiple games you might as well have been not playing for. 7. Galactus players. I know there are people who just like playing Galactus (I like playing negative and they're both equally draw reliant and explosive so I get it) but there are also a contingent who use Galactus just because it's the ultimate troll deck. Its a "I get to kill all your cards and make you rage lol" kind of mentality, which is never good for any game. 8. Galactus is an extremely formulaic deck. I think this is a big reason why Shuri and Sandman were hated as well. It makes the game boring when you see the same cards every game and they always win despite your opponent never really having to think. In other words, one could argue that Galactus goes against the idea that the more skilled player should win. 9. Galactus is too popular. I mean, any popular card is going to attract haters. It's kind of crazy to say after pointing out how expensive Galactus is but he has definitely spiked in usage as of late. Not only that but there's way more clips floating around with titles like "Galactus sweep" that probably increase the perception that he's ever-present. To sum it up, Galactus isn't the same kind of toxic card like Leech or Leader who were bad because they were plug-and-playable and invalidated your last turn, Galactus is almost the opposite. Like pre-nerf Zabu once you see the pieces coming together you just kind of have to accept you lost due to the literal luck of the draw, which never feels fair. Plus, unlike Leader, Leech, or even Zabu who was a season pass card, Galactus is tucked away in series 5 for 6000 tokens a lot of players probably don't have. The worst part is, I don't know how you fix him given that he isn't even really the problem, it's all the cards around him. I don't know if Second Dinner would really go so far as to nerf Ock, Knull, and Spider-man just to kneecap Galactus. Honestly, the only thing I can think of is for Galactus to always give you priority? At least that way you can Shang even if Galactus gets to go off (if he doesn't get Ock'd out of your hand) I don't know.

[@juliotorres3147]

They ruined 3 cards just to make Thanos weaker. They’ll make the same mistakes.

[@sadisticmedic8788]

Jeff is a big card seems to be loved by Marvel Snap creators but I have not seen the card at all in the token shop further I have only seen him once last month. One day I will get him.

[@iNovaburn]

Y'all should include the snapfan links of the decks in the description

[@Meech31898]

Are first edition badges an actual thing ? I bought she-hulk the first day they gave us tokens, before we knew how good she was.

[@joseph2000117]

No estimated time arrival (ETA)

[@stbsgtreed3147]

My problem with galactus is that if you aren't playing a deck with the counters there's no, oh maybe I can still win, it's just an auto retreat and when you get 3 to 4 of those in a row, you're not getting to play the game OR you have to play a deck that you don't find enjoyable to have the counters needed or force a card that doesn't fit into your deck just for galactus. And that's a problem to me.

[@mauriceemond7319]

Does Jeff with Hulkbuster make Jeff become a 3 cost or remain 2 cost? Asking if Silver Surfer buffs them too or not

[@ydgmdlu]

Hulkbuster just adds power to the card that it combines with. The original card keeps its "cost identity." We know this because one-cost cards like Human Torch still die to Killmonger after being combined with Hulkbuster.

[@mauriceemond7319]

@@ydgmdlu Makes sense! thanks! Saved me a couple cubes by figuring it out myself

[@DMNDNMD]

The fact that you have to question if Galactus is a problem means it’s a problem.

[@comixfan]

Galactus is absolutely NOT a problem in Marvel Snap. There are 19 cards that shut him down as well as a bazillion locations that make it nigh impossible to have his on reveal ability activate. Actually getting it to activate is a small miracle in and of itself, and even then it's still not a guaranteed win! I've still lost matches after getting Galactus' on reveal to activate due to an unlucky card draw or due to a clever play from my opponent. Galactus is fine as is and does not need nerfing. Also, Spider-Man after Galactus is just a smart play but one that is still also beatable by another card: Jeff.

[@tonyjabroni7205]

Quick fix to galactus is ditch the lengthy animation and add the ability to disable receiving those snarky thumbs up stickers lol. Ultimately I only ever lose a cube to him so ya know, whatever, but man is it just a whole annoying song and dance, no? It’s the time wasted that feels the worst, like if I could have a setting that gave a cube away whenever it detected a galactus in their hand just so I didn’t have to play them I would absolutely sign up for that

[@JohnPalmer1962]

I fight Galactus by working Wolverine over a few times with my destroy deck. I hold back cosmo if possible. If i see Hobgoblin coming over the wall i know where Galactus is going. So if possible i respond with a combo of cosmo, Knull and death. Wolverine will all ready be in there.

[@81stCommander]

And that's why I don't have Hobgoblin in my Galactus deck. It's the biggest telegraph in the game.

[@trikk868]

I feel you guys undervalue Galactus a bit. First of all: the guessing is often a 50/50 if 2 lanes are open. Second of all, Galactus players usually have a backup in Destroyer or Hobgoblin or Dr Octopus which still can lose you the game. Another issue is that if they ramp from Eletro you're not sure if it's Dr Doom or Galactus incoming and it's very hard to defend from both. Most of my Galactus opp snap pre-SpiderMan so it usually means you lose 2 cubes on 50/50 I feel Galactus needs a revamp. He can even have a higher win/cube rate post-change but the current state is just a waste of time and no fun.

[@ydgmdlu]

1) It may be a 50/50 for you, but it's also 50/50 for the Galactus player. Galactus coming down doesn't mean a win even if it's not countered. The Galactus player has to worry about the implications of reveal priority going into the final turn(s). 2) Hobgoblin and Doctor Octopus are terrible backup plans more often than not. The only somewhat reliable backup plan is Destroyer, but even it fails to win a lot of the time.

[@trikk868]

@@ydgmdlu sure. I feel if they do Galactus into Spiderman you pretty much lost because their deck is tailored a lot more to playing in 1 lane than you. It's not a 100% win but it has an above 50% win rate and a decent cube rate so it apparently works often enough

[@zackfake1253]

My only variant that gets likes from the people im going against has been my chess variant bishop i got from the free apology this month, and to be fair its a pretty suave look for him

[@alfresconub4539]

hey guys do you think they nerfed sunspot and lizard to sell more NEBULA?? AND it cant be a coincidence that all recent new free series 5 cards are borderline TRASH but all season cards are meta right out of the box??!

[@AlexanderCoccia]

I don't think they did that, no. If anything, Lizard and Nebula work well together because the opponent has to choose which one they want to go after if you split them up

[@helixier6629]

i had a quicksilver situation but with rogue!! very sussy

[@mr.voidroy6869]

Any replaceme t for mysterio?

[@IyDUA]

Polaris nerf suggestion. 3/3. On Reveal: Move an opposing 1 or 2-Cost card to this location. If you did that +2 Power.

[@jtpapiboune]

Unpopular opinion, but Galactus decks having priority makes me wish that wave were a 3/2. Her ability to ramp is so powerful that having less chance at priority against a doc oc or G-man himself would be nice. I've had cosmo, polaris, etc... but rarely have the priority needed to shut down the inevitability

[@ydgmdlu]

Most Galactus decks actually struggle to have priority going into the turn that Galactus is supposed to come down. That is one of the big weaknesses of the archetype. I really don't see how reducing Wave's power would make any difference. The only card that helps with priority is Lizard, which is not staple in Galactus decks because there are several other two-cost cards that they would rather play (e.g., Daredevil, Cloak, Wolverine).

[@juliotorres3147]

@@ydgmdlu yes. That’s the problem. They never have priority. Did you even read the comment you responded to?

[@daniellatkowsky6284]

I don’t want every game and deck just devolve into “ counter Galactus or lose”. Yes he has counters and yes he’s easy to see coming most of the time. No I don’t lose a lot of cubes to him. It’s just so boring and not fun when he’s prevalent

[@juliotorres3147]

That’s exactly what people defending want. They love super simple gameplay and solitaire like gameplay. Too many casuals having a voice. Galactus is terrible card game design.

[@solidusnake_s3451]

I love the bromance 🫶🏽🫶🏽🫶🏽 .. the camaraderie really helps when y’all explain decks or cards in a fun friendly way.. thanks for amazing content 🍻🍻🍻

[@joshuaarnaud993]

Also... Cozy was a supporter of zabu double Spiderman a while ago, now against it

[@juancarloslopezegea9085]

About Galactus, i know Galactus is prevalent now, but is not so dificult to counter or to beat him, so i don't see so much problems with Galactus.

[@adamholt5395]

Take a shot for every time Alex mentions Polaris, you'd be drunk before the show was over. I do like her though.

[@LastPancake]

I know im late to the party on this episode, but nah man.... theres definitely something about the matchmaking that pairs certain cards up. That galactus thing with debrii has happened to me on multiple occasions. All i play is hit monkey decks? Fuck this switching to sandman ramp.... immediately play another 3 ramp decks in a row 😂

[@zavri8543]

Galactus needs a card workshop discussion amoung the devs. Is this the exodia of marvel snap or not? If not, he stays but should get 0 power which feels bad. If he is meant to be exodia, it should have text that deletes ALL CARDS except himself and playable only on turn 6. Or give him crazy power but requires specific plays from turn 1 to 5 to get him in play. Maybe he plays himself after X conditions are met? Idk, but something needs to change.

[@kess2750]

yo yo yo shout outs from Toronto ! I like that TFC jersey !!!!

[@UltimateHibz]

I dont have sera, got to infinite with t6 galactus, hawks rocks zabu, and shuri rs + kang

[@the_flash_v9840]

I think Galactus would be better if we just gave him the infinaught treatment. Buff him to say 7-8 power (so he's not insane and a card like). Have him still destroy the other locations but change his play condition so that he can't be played if another card was played in the previous turn. This could make him a big surprise play behind a weak Knull (Cant cosmo protect Knull if you want to Galactus behind him) and the play pattern would be a little more predictable in that you would Wave turn 3, Knull on 4, skip 5 and Galactus 6. He could also be played in other decks using a She-Hulk/Sunspot Synergy as a huge surprise to flood decks. Could even leave him at 2 power for the massive power swings, it would leave his decks more vulnerable to Shang Chi, and potentially either Valkyrie or Enchantress depending on power scale methods as they would play in 1 lane (Perhaps too much of a Shuri Synergy)

[@the_flash_v9840]

My point of view comes from loving Galactus as a concept but also understanding that its not a very good card right now. Sure, it can climb to infinite but you're doing it 1 cube at a time. I can do the same thing by playing Negative with Prof X and Mystique (now that shit gets me tilted lol). The card itself is a unique concept, I wouldnt even mind giving him Magik treatment. Drop his cost to 4, and make it so he can't be played after turn 4. To get around spider-man instead of destroying the other locations he could create a new location that cannot be obstructed and either destroys the other two locations or combines their power (could be a weird spin on the effect). This way, instead of just bandaid fixing the Spider-man issue with Galactus we also prevent anything stupid happening with Professor X and future cards that will affect location use.

[@daveb305]

When you get good at recognition it can be really fun shutting Galactus down.

[@lordtachanka9003]

Galactus should get a rework so that he can only be played on turns 5 and 6. If he’s summoned on turn 5 then he destroys the location that he is currently at, and if he’s played on turn 6 he destroys all other locations, or the other way around if that’s what would make it balanced. I love Galactus and I like the cards he can enable like Knull and Nimrod, but he should not be able to just win entire games by locking the other guy out of playing with Spider-Man. Also they should add a voice line where he says “I will spare your puny planet” if he’s played on turn 6.

[@afflikshon]

People only remember when they lose to a Galactus Player, They don't remember that Galactus Players also lose a lot. It's not like some Shuri deck pre Nerf where you are completely helpless.