Our extension lean-to roof explained

[@GosforthHandyman]

Follow this project in a bit more detail at: selfbuildextension.co.uk/ 👍

[@simonmartin5048]

alright mate nice work what fixings did you use for the ledger board

[@Metal05]

I’m a Gas Engineer of 20 years, last year hand cut my new extension roof in, with two large velux windows 1100x1000, battened, tiled, insulated, boarded completely inside, everything correct, and even the building inspector said he’s seen supposedly professional roofers do a worse job. Really proud of my roof.

[@KlokStudios]

I love this series as an american architect, its so interesting learning about UK building practices vs US standards.

[@gazparadise]

Really pleased to see the progress Andy. Can't wait for the next episode. All the best to you and the family.

[@GosforthHandyman]

Cheers Gareth! 👍

[@LTFC1964]

What I’ve seen so far of your workmanship and attention to detail, I have absolutely no doubt you could have done the roof work yourself and achieve a far better finish. I’m amazed they left you with the issues they have.

[@peterjf7723]

Unfortunately I am not amazed at the issues that were left, I had similar problems with flooring contractors. I gave up calling them to finish the edges and did it myself. I should have not paid them until the job was completed.

[@GosforthHandyman]

Cheers! I'll defo do my own roof next time. Did expect a bit more for the money. 🙄

[@paulc1352]

Your addition is looking good. It's interesting watching how you build in the UK vs the US. In South Florida we have to use 8 inch concrete block for our walls due to hurricanes. Enjoy watching your videos...

[@don-qb4xb]

That brick and blockwork looks superb.

[@GosforthHandyman]

The one trade who actually finished everything properly. Dream team. 😂👍

[@normanboyes4983]

Andy thanks for uploading this. I enjoyed the video and felt your pain, tackling this stage in the winter is one thing, doing it on the arse end of successive storms is ripping a whole new one. Shame you were let down after all your painstaking work to get the carpentry just so, but you know what they say - if you want a job done proper - do it yourself! 😀👍⛵️

[@GosforthHandyman]

Cheers Norman! Yeah, it was a challenge. We all caught Covid shortly after this. Couldn't make it up. 😂

[@boli2746]

Looking smart! always a good feeling when you get a large part of the structure done.

[@GosforthHandyman]

Cheers - too right! 😁

[@jeanhawken4482]

Always exciting when your vids go up. Such a treat

[@GosforthHandyman]

Thank you Jean!

[@grahams6690]

As a retired roof tiler , that right hand verge was the first thing I notice. and there is no way I would have left it like that. ps; there is no way I would have done it like that.

[@GosforthHandyman]

Yeah, didn't think that was normal. No Idea what they've done! The top dry verge piece doesn't look like it's nailed in properly. I need to take a few off and have a proper look. 👍

[@grahams6690]

@@GosforthHandyman my guess would be, battens too long, and/or tiles. ps; I would cut and put dry verge in, as I think doesn't look finished.

[@grahams6690]

also when I finished the roof, I would ask if your satisfied with what I'd done.

[@GosforthHandyman]

I think they just couldn't be bothered to cut at fit the final verge piece. 🙄

[@nutter-world]

Bodge it and Legit Roof Co. Annoying. Bar the snags, looking good. Have really enjoyed watching this project so far 👍

[@GosforthHandyman]

Cheers Alex! 👍

[@moiragoldsmith7052]

I hope it is a grand roof once it has settled and you deal with the snags. We need to somehow recultivate real pride of workmanship in all Trades.🤞🙏

[@GosforthHandyman]

Cheers! Yeah, there are some excellent trades out there but there's such a general shortage that the good ones are booked up forever. 😭

[@moiragoldsmith7052]

@@GosforthHandyman True! Breaks my heart having to hire people now, happy to pay above the going rate for what I am told will be a good job....only to have to live with sloppy workmanship. 🤷‍♀️ Onwards, Upwards🥰

[@squirelad28]

Looking good so far. That will be my next job starting our extension with kitchen and bathroom downstairs and dining room . It's going to be a massive job but I'm excited to start . Will do a video on it 😜

[@peterdnreynolds777]

You live and learn what you're capable of doing, know you probably could have done this job yourself. Looking forward to seeing the next video in the series. Hope all is well, take care

[@GosforthHandyman]

Cheers - next time! 😁

[@ComeWhatThey]

I've seen some issues with extensions like this where the cavity is interupted by a lintel, so if water does end up inside the cavity it basically has nowhere to go. Ideally you have cavity trays leading to weep vents just above the level of the flashing, or in your case between the upper windows. Can be retrofit if you run into problems.

[@GosforthHandyman]

Amazingly there's a cavity tray under all of the old windows and over the 'tile' feature. So should be fine. Plus most of it will be rendered. 👍

[@raydriver7300]

I set fire to my fan heater on a bench next to my lathe. I’m pleased I was on hand. Maybe an oil filled rad would have been a better plan. I look forward to your videos Andy 🌞

[@GosforthHandyman]

Oh no! Could have been bad! Cheers Ray 👍😁

[@JL-hn6hi]

Appreciate the prologues at the beginning for context. Had to look up snagging in construction and learned about snagging survey.North America might call it the punch list or a final walk through maybe.

[@firesurfer]

Punch list. I used to hate being the last guy on the job to do the punch list leftover by everyone else.

[@GosforthHandyman]

Yup that's the fella! In a UK new-build it's not uncommon to have 150+ items on the snagging list. Some stuff I've seen is beyond belief.

[@Jules_Pew]

My brother couldn't get his roofer mate to do my extension, so he did it himself never having done one before. Looks brilliant, minus the cuss words.

[@GosforthHandyman]

Fantastic stuff! Now that I see how it's done I wish I'd tackled it myself. Next time! 😁

[@robthewaywardwoodworker9956]

Great stuff, Andy. It's all coming together!

[@GosforthHandyman]

Cheers Rob!

[@jonathanfriedrich2941]

I would cover the roof rafter at the left and right side somehow with copper or zinc to prevent it from rotting away. Hard to see, but the water probably isnt catched completely if rain is a bit stronger as it will shoot over the gutter

[@robertmasters4004]

On the right hand side take a course of tiles off all the wall up and u will have to cut them approx 30mm to allow verge to sit flush u might have to trim Aston as well

[@MarcusT86]

Great update! I’ve had the same problem with roofers. The company I used last year to put a new roof covering and soffits, fascias, and guttering, won’t come out to fix a sagging bit of soffit where they haven’t put enough fixings. And the waste stack clip they used has snapped, so the top is swinging in the wind. Like you I’ve tried 5 times and they’ve broken promises every time.

[@GosforthHandyman]

Very frustrating. I've given up with mine. Shame. 😭

[@mattb6256]

We've got a 1930's house and need to re-tile the canopy above kitchen it's only 1mtr by 3mtr luckily, we've been quoted over £400 so I think I'll have to tackle it myself.

[@jonathanhasmail]

If you are planning on attempting to dry out the walls and sub base with a space heater then I’d suggest insulating the roof space, blocking up the window and bifold door holes with celotex and getting a bigger gas space heater than you think together with a bigger propane bottle. Open the velux windows on vent and let the heater rip. I tried to dry the block walls out on my 7 x 7m garage without insulation and the baby space heater was running for an entire weekend and I barely saw any improvement but the windows were dripping wet with condensation so something must have been happening 👍🏻

[@GosforthHandyman]

Ha that's pretty much what we did! (without insulating the roof first). Dried out nicely (next episode). 👍

[@Tom-Lahaye]

Apart from the few sloppy items left to rectify it's good to see the roof on. But I hope you gave the infill for the floor and the insulation in the walls more time to dry than a week without and a day with an industrial heater. This takes ages to dry out, and without any heating it would not have had a chance at all to dry because of the wet weather and high humidity we had until the start of March. I could see this on my driveway staying wet all day even on days it didn't rain over the winter months. Closing the door and window opening with some plastic sheeting and then using an industrial dehumidifier would give a better chance. Luckily March is now presenting with very nice and dry weather, and things are starting to dry out very well, and the constant battle against the elements is over for now. So I was able to finish the underpinning of the foundation under the side extension of my house.

[@GosforthHandyman]

Yeah, floor got a good chance to dry out. Got a space heater and that really helped. 👍

[@DaveM_original]

This is brilliant thanks! A couple of questions from the viewpoint of an ignorant DIYer. Why put the noggins in along the rafters? Is that a requirement? Did you need to put restraint straps in for your gables? Thanks.

[@darkknight17]

Hi! I love your KZbin channel. At 3:40 in the video, I can see the timber is exposed to weather. Do you have a video of the fascia installed? Thank you!

[@cheryld.3616]

You're going to hit 200K soon!

[@GosforthHandyman]

I know getting close! 😁

[@Bobrogers99]

The average homeowner would not have noticed the roofers' mistakes, and a year from now would wonder about the activity they were hearing overhead! Tom Layhaye (below) mentions getting an industrial heater to speed up the drying of the floor infill, and that sounds like a worthwhile suggestion.

[@GosforthHandyman]

Cheers Bob! Yeah, we invested in a little space heater - did the job. 👍😁

[@FearsomeWarrior]

I, myself would knock the bit off the rafter tail with a chisel. It really is the most versatile hand tool.

[@GosforthHandyman]

It's a bit of a gamble on something like this if the grain takes off more than planned. 😁

[@PJ-gl1rd]

Cracking extension..... and videos. Just one thing. The tiles immediately above the Velux window sit very close to the window. Speaking from experience, cr4p builds up in the wee valley between tile and window, and if not cleared out, lets water build up and can ( in my case, did) leak above the flashing. Checking for rubbish ( and getting it out) isn't so easy when tile is so close. ( the edge of the tile will take your finger end off!). Keep up the smashing work.

[@GosforthHandyman]

Cheers and good tip! I need to take a look. I think it's a big enough gap to clear out. 👍

[@rzholland]

Scaffold and drains!! I was running a job in the Kings Road Chelsea, when i went out on to the third floor scaffold to see how the chippy was getting on and I thought that the scaffold was a bit springy. On investigation I found the ground workers had dug a drain trench right under both the front and back scaffold standards!! The roofers should have been patient - as they are [presumably] specialists, they should have told you in advance where the Velux trimmers should be positioned and they should have told you in advance just how many tiles were required knowing the roof pitch [it's not rocket science for a roofer]. Don't envy you cutting the bottoms of those rafters, lots of bruised knuckles and plenty of swearing I expect....

[@GosforthHandyman]

Cheers Robin! Yeah, now that I see how it's done around the Velux I could have worked it out. Although it was nice letting them put the Velux in. 😁👍

[@doit1st]

Hi GH. Just wondered is a cavity tray needed. Considering a conservatory roof replacement . Existing weep holes on onternal of conservatory. Thinking i should install new tray above level of new roof? Wondered if you had this issue and covered in a video? Cheers .D

[@IngaTeslonoka-gs8zp]

How did you connect your roof with the existing neighbour roof? Is there a space between both extensions?

[@firesurfer]

Use a handsaw or sawzall and start by the fascia. 3:05 Shouldn't be too awful. An easy way to calculate exposure for siding or shingles, is to use a story pole that you make yourself. You know the total length and the size of your material. By varying the angle of the stick, you get different exposures. Don't forget clearance to skylight if any.

[@GosforthHandyman]

Yeah, wasn't too bad - just really awkward to get in. Multi-tool ended up being the easiest. 👍

[@haydenuk02]

Brilliant work and thanks for sharing this with us take care

[@GosforthHandyman]

No worries - cheers!

[@regnix77]

I install guttering on new builds for a living, and dry verges are a nightmare. The gutter needs go to past the edge of the tile or else you will get a drip. As you have have pan tiles it won't be so bad, but water still gets blown under the verge and and starts to rot the batten. On your roof I would have pulled or cut the cap out of the verge to make the gutter stop end fit. Some roofers fit expanded 'loofer' type plastic instead of the verge ends. The NHBC love dry verges as they technical stop the wind getting under the tiles, but on some jobs I've been told the gutter needs to extend 50mm beyond the edge of the last tile. How's that going to work? Hope that makes sense. Great Videos BTW Peace and Love.

[@GosforthHandyman]

Luckily the final tile on both sides slopes upwards, so hopefully rain blown under the verge won't get down to the batten. Not sure if that was deliberate. Starting to think it was by chance 😂. That's just temp guttering btw 👍

[@makg4655]

Looks like the rain would run over the gutter .. probably need to pack out facia to allow for rain run off

[@GosforthHandyman]

The final gutter will be higher but no sign of the rain overshooting the gutter so far. Easy enough to pack it out if it becomes a problem though. 👍

[@carllamb6711]

Hi Andy Wow what a transformation looking good now mate, you must be made of money mate if you are using an Electric fan heater to dry out that area would be much better off with an oil filled radiator or a greenhouse heater that runs on oil or paraffin great video mate thanks 😊

[@GosforthHandyman]

Ha ha, the electric heater was just to warm my hands. Got a little space heater to dry the place out. 😁👍

[@muhammedkhan9439]

Hi I am currently doing a extension similar to yours and would like to know whether you needed structural engineering calculations for the roof to have a vaulted ceiling.

[@GosforthHandyman]

Hi - yes, for building regs we needed architect and structural engineer drawings.

[@wyrdlg]

Congratulations!

[@GosforthHandyman]

Thank you!

[@paulclubley7206]

Surprised that you got roofers in. Setting the rafters is the hard job putting felt, lats and tiles on is really not a difficult skill, Having seen the quality of your work i'm sure you would have done a better job yourself

[@GosforthHandyman]

It's not something I've ever tackled myself but now that I see what I'm up against I'd tend to agree. 👍😁

[@leer798]

I agree. General roofing is probably the least skilled trade . I’m sure you could have watched a few videos and then made a better job yourself !

[@marks-0-0]

I agree, most jobs can be tackled yourself if you do your researh and take your time.

[@grolfe3210]

Great to see the roof on. With the timber roof, the other way is to stick to 600s all the way. This will mean the velux hole is too wide but just trim in a short rafter on one side or both to get an exact positon. Then the plasterboard goes up easy!.

[@GosforthHandyman]

Yup, tried every combination but just didn't work where we wanted the windows with the 830mm gap. We'll probably lose a sheet or two of plasterboard due to the cuts. 👍

[@tlangdon12]

@@GosforthHandyman This is good information for other people trying to build extensions and the like: sometimes you just can't get find an arrangement of material that meets all the limitations and so you have to choose the least worst option and accept that some wastage will result. At least plasterboard can be recycled.

[@GosforthHandyman]

Cheers! Yeah, it was basically a toss up between extra rafters or have some plasterboard waste. Plasterboard is cheaper. 👍😁

[@tomowens2720]

Hey Andy, Man, that looks great! Long time coming to be sure. If it were me I'd get that roofer back most riki tik and have them fix those issues straight away. Cracked tile???? whatever that shoddy thing is up in the corner???? I don't even know what to say about the other things but they need to make them right IMO.

[@GosforthHandyman]

I can't even get the roofer back to do paid work. 🤣

[@nigel4425]

Hey Andy, Rainwater into a foul sewer? do you guys have different rules up there? I would have thought in view of the fact that the extension gives on to the garden, you would be expected to run it into a soakaway??

[@GosforthHandyman]

Everything is combined sewer around here on the older houses. Not entirely sure why! Someone mentioned the soil type doesn't lend itself well for soakaways but not sure how true that is. 👍

[@outoftheburrough]

I'm in East Anglia & our gutter run offs goe into the foul in our road for certain due to problematic watercourse topography & soil type (mix of 100+ year old up to 10 years old & new development going in also)

[@GosforthHandyman]

Interestingly there's a rainwater sewer in the street but it just runs in to the river.

[@Coffeedad0205]

Just joined and some great content. Im a keen diy-er but not as big jobs as this yet. We had builders in for exactly same extension few years ago but the stock gutter they installed (looks a bit like your temp one) was not up to the job and when heavy rain it would just shoot past the gutter due to the roof pitch. Have you expirienced this and what size gutter have you ended up with as I want to change ours.?

[@TomasKempny]

yea the rafter around window. you have lenght of normal rafter minus window and two blocks, thats the leght on the rafter and it does not matter where the window is, so basically you could have prepared rafter with both ends (plus size of cut, thats like 4 milimeter) and then if you cut this for window at whatever spot, you have top and bottom ready.-

[@Ggxrd123]

Hi, I am getting an extension and it’s very close to your setup. Will I have an issue coming out 3.75 meters? I think yours is 4 meters.

[@craigf2784]

How come there is no gap in the cavity. Won't the insulation soak the water through from external to internal skin?

[@GosforthHandyman]

Rendered walls. 👍

[@DocteGaby]

Hi Andy. Can't wait to see the next episode! Are your sitting room and temporary kitchen much darker now? That's always something that bugs me with extensions...

[@GosforthHandyman]

Hard to say as we've been living with a tarpaulin over the bi-folds for nearly 4 months. 😁

[@liamclark9411]

Really enjoying following this project and have just built a similar lean to roof for my garage, how’ your roof vented where it meets the wall is it just a gap covered by the flashing?

[@roscopeco2000]

I am interested why wouldn't you secure your facing fascia (presume Upvc) nailed directly to rafters? Was the wood fascia added just to temp secure guttering?

[@GosforthHandyman]

The fascia timber also provides some extra support for the barge boards. 👍

[@shayanchaudhary8613]

Hi, what is the length of the extension? looks like 4m? Did you need to use special tiles to match the pitch requirements?

[@paulmorris3613]

Can you run dirty water (kitchen) with runoff water (Roof) in the same drain? I thought in regs they were supposed to be in separate sewers? Just that you mentioned it when describing the positioning of the downpipe from the roof? Well done on the progress, A lot of graft has been shown.

[@robertmackiey89]

Am Imagining it or did the boiler flue outlet look to be pointing upwards towards the sky ?

[@suj1945]

Nice one Andy

[@GosforthHandyman]

👍

[@Paul-XCIV2]

On getting the roofers back, yeah since the pandemic eased trades just don't seem interested in doing small jobs from my experience, chasing the big ££££. Very frustrating when you need stuff done that is outside your skill area!

[@GosforthHandyman]

Yeah, plus with all the storms roofers were like gold-dust. 😭👍

[@clivewilliams3661]

How is the dpm going to lap with the dpc. That on the face of it is a carnal mistake! I would have expected the oversite slab to have been installed early to allow the concrete to be tamped off the wall. As it stands the oversite will have to be levelled 'by hand'. Also, why is the extension roof using a different roof tile to the main roof, it looks odd. Is the pitch an issue, if so the there are ways and means to resolve that so that the Roman main roof tile can be used on the extension rather than the Grovebury.

[@GosforthHandyman]

You don't need to lap the dpm with the dpc for an oversite under a suspended floor if the outside ground level is lower. If the oversite had been installed early it would have filled up like a swimming pool. Happy with our tiles. 😁👍

[@guitarcarfanatic]

Hi Andy, how did you fix the verge board on? We have moved into a house with a similar extension, and I am trying to reverse engineer what they have done as it's a bit buggered...Basically, they never added a verge and just fixed a bit of facia capping over the tiles and down tight against the render. I guess because like you, the roof was constructed within the extension with walls shaped up to the roof line. Is yours bolted to the wall? Or did you fly some rafters somehow through the blockwork to attach it? Cheers mate :) P.S - been driving quite a bit for work so have been re-listening to the podcast :D

[@Familygarden88]

Great video, I’ve done a flat roof approximately 40sqm for an outhouse but never done a pitched roof rafters. Now I’m considering to build a 6 meter extension. Is there any reason for not using thermal block for internal skin of the wall? Thanks

[@nickbell8634]

That side, I'd be removing the dry verge, trim the battens, might need to cut the tiles a bit narrower too. Then refit. It's annoying but you have the skills to sort it. Your average householder wouldn't notice until wildlife moved in. 😡

[@cedarstuff]

On your next renovation, do you think you will do the roof yourself?

[@GosforthHandyman]

Almost certainly would attempt this myself in future. Although I'm not great with heights when I'm perched on a ridge. 👍😂

[@FatManBuilds]

ha! tricky cut that, always the way! too much work left at the end of the day! Shame about the few bits the roofers left off. Probably rushing, Like some of the other comments I think you did the hard bit there! All they had to do was finish it off!

[@shirleyburnham2782]

Looking good x

[@GosforthHandyman]

Ploughing on! 😁

[@robgormley1317]

Hi Andy looks like things are coming along now, and their is always going to be a few snags as the build progresses, but that said it's starting to take shape and looks really nice I like the way the new hip extension on the main roof has blended in well with the old roof, btw what's the cad software you showed was it sketch up? All the best mate 👍

[@harirajan4463]

Hi mate , your videos are very much informative and much appreciate for the same . I am planning to buy a house and the viewing is over and offer is accepted. As you know it’s a very demanding market with lesser houses in the market so I have to admit that they are charging me a big price. The property was rented from many years so it’s not properly look after but no difference in price though . When I did the viewing noticed that upstairs flooring has dip and uneven , even downstairs as well but didn’t noticed any dip . I am a first time buyer and would you pls let me know should I need to conduct a RICS level 3 survey or a builder from just trade will be fine pls ?! Much appreciated your response for the same . Thank You

[@DlStreamnet]

Gosforth - many thanks for the continued content. Couple of questions if you get a minute - I am considering a house with a similar extension housing an open plan kitchen/dining area. It is a reasonably new extension - so assume it is up to code - how is it for retaining heat? I have a flat roof galley kitchen extension at the moment and in winter it is an absolute ice box. I close off the door to avoid the issue. Second question - I feel your pain on roofers; absolutely useless and get paid a fortune. Is there any reason you didn't "just do it yourself"? The lead maybe?

[@matthewesch5208]

I got told off for using the term "up to code" by a UK architect because it's an American term. Don't assume that the extension meets building regulations for insulation, my stairs are fairly new and were signed off by building control despite being steeper than 42 degrees. That said I'm guessing this roof is going to be well insulated in the winter and the real pain will be trying to keep it cool in the summer with those velux windows creating a greenhouse effect.

[@alexjordan2594]

And how can your roof have air flow with noggins in ??

[@GosforthHandyman]

Explained in the video.

[@davidwilson-tn3sm]

As a roofer with 30+ years I tend to look at the finish details you can see to give an indicator of the skill level of the contractor who made the install. The areas you pointed out are rushed at best to give them the benefit of the doubt. The leadflashing through the top is where i'd also look --- especially how they dealt with the small return on the building and the downturn over the verge - have they dressed/welded to correct details? The internal corner would give a fair indication of skill level --- is it a 'pig ear' (folded in on itself) or bossed/welded?

[@GosforthHandyman]

Nothing is welded as far as I'm aware! I'll take a closer look at that return. Cheers David! 👍

[@James-hd2kf]

The dry verge are easy to take back off and then check why there is a gap either tile cut to wide or as you say the Battens are to long. How come you decided to go with the Terracotta tiles ?

[@GosforthHandyman]

Dry verge - depends if they've used ringshank nails - might break trying to take them off 😬. Terracotta tiles - same colour as existing and neighbouring properties. 👍

[@eddyz67]

what pitch did u have on the roof

[@timevans6928]

Will you fit the window over the lead upstairs ? Will driving rain get through under the sill

[@GosforthHandyman]

Sill gets sealed to the lead in this scenario. 👍

[@williamgow6551]

If the lead is long enough you should turn it up against the window sill

[@waynemace5487]

No double trimmers around velux windows

[@andrew5792]

Andy, must have been a weight off to have finally achieved full roof coverage. Question with regards to the floor in the extension, was there any particular reason why you went down the path of a slab instead of a suspended floor like in the older part of the house?

[@matthewesch5208]

He's actually having a suspended timber floor in with a concrete subfloor. You can see the same construction in previous videos with the new kitchen floor. The concrete subfloor is a UK building regs thing as far as I'm aware, which helps prevent moisture from the ground building up under the floor.

[@outoftheburrough]

Having just fitted mesh to my gable end to evict the birdies I feel your pain. The builders didn't leave the same gaps on the identical house next door 😬 (the original owner of mine was involved from very early on so the short comings I've found and fixed & that it was only a 2 house development make it even more grating) Is your soil/drain pipe remaining inside the extension on the old external wall like that? (Being boxed in?)

[@GosforthHandyman]

Nightmare - glad you got sorted! Yeah, soil pipe will be boxed in. 👍

[@freetolook3727]

@2:32 What happened that the window box frameboard ends aren't the same width as the rafters?

[@GosforthHandyman]

Think that's explained later on 👍

[@bellabella9918]

It's coming along champion

[@GosforthHandyman]

Getting there! 👍😁

[@philhermetic]

Roofers could have left you a bit more membrane at the bottom, to form the drip into the gutter!

[@andyhopkinson2708]

Don't pay the roofer till he replaces the tile?

[@GosforthHandyman]

Didn't spot it for a few days. 🙄

[@BillsAllotmentDiary]

roof looks good single roman tile by the look of it that's whats going on our roof after another roofer destroyed our roof. Normally do my own stuff but wife says I'm to old to be doing certain jobs now. gonna cost us £9000 so savings gone but new roofer recons whilst the original job was poor the additional issues are due to incorrect application on an old roof so wear and tear.

[@GosforthHandyman]

Hope you get sorted! We have a double roman tile. It always staggers me how expensive roofs are. All the tiles for our roof were about £500 and they fitted the roof in a day. I'll not tell you how much they charged (yet). 😬

[@v88krb]

My neighbours had an extension like this in 2014 and the roof was 14 degrees and the builder put the wrong tiles on then altered the battens when it leaked but didn't replace the felt so the next leak was worse than the first. Eventually a roofer came in replaced the felt the battens and the tiles and the builder coughed up £3000 plus costs in the Small Claims Court. What a hassle! Looks like you might need to redo the right hand verge at some point. Not done to your standard!!!

[@GosforthHandyman]

What a nightmare! Yeah, the 15 degree thing is critical. No leaks so far. 👍🤞

[@Hollegripchannel]

Nice Andy , did they raise the pitch of the velux separately? Can’t remember for sure but I’m sure they leak at 15/16degrees ? Sad they won’t come back. Looks good though , good to see it all coming together.

[@GosforthHandyman]

Velux are generally 15 degree min so these are fine. 👍

[@Hollegripchannel]

@@GosforthHandyman I was about to edit my reply , had a search as it was bugging me. Build looking great 👍

[@robertpearce8394]

You can see why Robin Clevett had a roof on the scaffolding on his recent big build. Problem was the cost. I think he mentioned £20,000.

[@GosforthHandyman]

Too right! Couldn't justify it for a project this size. 😬👍

[@tlangdon12]

I just wanted to say that I was disappointed you had been left with these problems. Roofs are an element that needs careful workmanship to avoid problems later on. I do wonder if we are too soft on tradespeople that are not quite up to scratch. If every customer withheld part of the bill, in cases where the work was shoddy, would that improve standards?

[@GosforthHandyman]

Unfortunately standards are going to get worse. There's simply a massive skills shortage and the education system for trades is mostly useless. As older skilled trades retire there's going to be less and less people to train up apprentices. IMHO. 😭

[@roberthardy2013]

Being realistic, these days getting any trade back is nigh on impossible, ideally you need to spot these things while they are on site but that’s a huge learning curve to understand what each trade does. Just hold back 10% and use that as a lever, but you still can’t win them all. Thatsaid it’s looking good!

[@GosforthHandyman]

Cheers! Yeah, plus with all the storms the roofers could pick and choose their jobs. Such is life! 😁

[@krisgair5863]

If I were you with that roof, I would have to pay someone to fix those jobs as iam terrified of heights, they may seem like simple little things but that makes it worse, as you say yous have payed a decent wedge so thier should of been no things left for you to fix, That said its looking really good 👍

[@GosforthHandyman]

Cheers Kris! Should be able to sort it myself. If it was the ridge it would be another matter. 😁👍

[@robertmasters4004]

U might have to trim Barton as well

[@DICEGEORGE]

Fan heater from a coiled extension lead heats the lead and makes fires

[@GosforthHandyman]

Correct! 👍😂

[@veloistist]

I have found I invariably have to go around after the very few people we employ o do work. The worst was a firm that installed an office for us (they are a big house hold name). It was so bad I got the fitters back and in the end had to get my tools and show them how to fit a pelmet that was level - their "foreman" still went on how he was called in to fix other teams mistakes so God only knows how bad they were. My OCD would mean that tile edge would have to come off and I would recut the tiles and refit them properly. Alternatively I would recut the tiles so they were straight and fit a second bargeboard so there was not a gap

[@GosforthHandyman]

It's shocking really. The tiles are cut perfectly straight btw. It's just the verge is too far out so it's just flapping about. 👍

[@cliveclapham6451]

We got to the bit where Mrs Mac wos calling you a cheapskate/spendthrift 🤣🤣🤣

[@GosforthHandyman]

That's the one! 😂

[@peterleishman431]

Why you don’t put ply on roof like we do in Scotland I don’t no much better looking good though👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@ChelseaPensioner-DJW]

Ply? Sarking boards, or OSB but ply! The main reasoning is it depends on the extremity of weather you get. Obviously the further North the harsher the weather.

[@GosforthHandyman]

If you have sarking boards do you need special ventilation? I know the tiles and membrane are designed to allow airflow. 👍

[@peterleishman431]

No just 8mm packer on top of rafters then tile battons

[@GosforthHandyman]

Interesting! 👍

[@peterleishman431]

@@ChelseaPensioner-DJW not that much difference in weather just different building regs ment osb call it ply

[@keithpott7666]

As you say, battens not set out on the right hand verge, yep you can fix it, but why should you, thats why you paid a roofer to do it for you

[@1x3dil]

Yes a bit disappointing in regards the fit and finish of the roof , especially bearing in mind you couldn’t get more simpler project . But such is life , at least you managed to get someone that in it self is an achievement these days . Best wishes and kind regards as always 😀👍

[@GosforthHandyman]

Yeah, I was quite grateful the roofer actually turned up. 😂😭

[@UberAlphaSirus]

The roofer done a fair job. But your like me perhaps, I could have done that myself. But yher know, sometimes its better to get the expert in and fettle it to how you like it. I come in and do the work as an expert to some customers and you know they are mildly happy about the job, but it's done, it works. It's not a shit job, but it's within the price and reality.

[@GosforthHandyman]

Yeah, it's OK - just a bit disappointing. 😭😭

[@flyingjackcarpentry9394]

I really don't like dry verges. They never sit right, they look shit, I feel bad when I'm having to do them. Eurgh. I used to enjoy pointing up the verges with sand and cement when I was a young lad working with my dad

[@pumpkinhead456]

Based on my current experience, the work seems quite typical. A real shame that nobody really gives a damn!

[@GosforthHandyman]

Yeah, massive skills shortage so the good trades are booked up months if not years in advance. 😭

[@alexjordan2594]

Where’s your head above the window and door s

[@GosforthHandyman]

Do you mean lintel? Lintels are there!

[@olliebob8359]

Yes that roof isn’t very good, I’d be suprised if they are roofers tbh, the lead at the abutment where it returns looks an awful detail and I’d be very suprised if that doesn’t cause u problems later on. Has it got bird combs under the tiles at the eave either? Getting full tiles at the top of the velux isn’t a must, neat cuts will look more than good enough

[@leer798]

I’ve watched over this from the start and you’ve been very methodical in your approach . I could pick a few things but I’m not going to . Your bricklayer seems to have done a good job and the joiner on the roof albeit a couple of issues I noticed . It’s just shame you ended up with a rough arse roofer :( just isn’t acceptable the things they’ve left . Looks like a house basher roofer has done it , leaving problems for someone else to sort just like they do on big housing sites! I’m sure you’ll put them right but you shouldn’t have to . Lead needs some more dressing all over it, right pigs ear that ! Sadly the building trade is full of cowboys and blokes with the “it’ll do “ attitude :(

[@GosforthHandyman]

Yup! Almost every trade has left something 'unfinished'. It's getting quite comical now. 😂

[@leer798]

@@GosforthHandyman it’s just not good enough is it . Although you do run this risk when project managing yourself . All I would say is never fully pay up until everything is completed . Money is always the best bargaining tool . I’ve been in business for 16 years now and extensions and loft conversions are our bread and butter and it’s all the little awkward jobs that take the time up , these are the ones trades will try and get out of !