How much does a UK house extension really cost?

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Gosforth Handyman

Gosforth Handyman

Күн бұрын

So how much did our self-build extension really cost? Today we’re taking a deep dive in to the actual costs of a home extension construction project in the UK. We’ll look at what you can expect to pay per square metre along with a full detailed breakdown of exactly how much our extension cost.
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Extension Cost Chapters:
0:00 - Introduction
2:58 - Cost per square metre
11:26 - How much we paid
15:29 - Cost breakdown
22:16 - Would we do it again?
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@GosforthHandyman
@GosforthHandyman Жыл бұрын
Download our full plans and budget from the Member Zone: members.gosforthhandyman.com/all-member-only-downloads/ 👍
@thedigitalemotion
@thedigitalemotion Жыл бұрын
The cheapest way I’ve found to get the cost down is to talk yourself out of the idea 😊
@Ripper36068
@Ripper36068 Жыл бұрын
Or better still find a good qualified builder!
@James-mb3je
@James-mb3je Жыл бұрын
We didn't talk ourselves out of it, they put a supply teacher in charge of the country and taking equity out suddenly seemed like a bad idea.
@richardsedorski1206
@richardsedorski1206 Жыл бұрын
Nice one.
@Simon-gp2zw
@Simon-gp2zw Жыл бұрын
True. Absolutely spot on.. Save money by not buying anything.. That's my motto 😁😁😁
@thedigitalemotion
@thedigitalemotion Жыл бұрын
@@Simon-gp2zw 😆👍🏼👍🏼
@JohnARoake
@JohnARoake Жыл бұрын
As a retired project manager, 8 years out, I found your extention costings extremely useful in order to bring me up to date on current material costs for 22-23. I am still asked to do work and to give advice, so costwise, your advice was first class, uncomplicated and suitably brief. I commend you sir. John Roake
@paulccb2497
@paulccb2497 Жыл бұрын
Professional builders do not quote per SQM every job is different, access, ground conditions, materials, bi-folds, lanterns, structural work & services can vary price. For estimating & budgeting a ballpark of 2.5/3k per SQM would be quoted to a client in SE UK in early 2023, once client seems keen a full detailed quote would be done that could take several days to complete! Unfortunately, material prices at the highest ever brick are £1.20 + blocks £2.50+ plasterboard £10+ as well as other costs of running a building company fuel etc. Time a builder spends on site is not the only part of the job collection of materials, ordering, quoting, and liaising with clients many of us work 60-plus hours a week! Unfortunately, many clients don't see this & think they're getting ripped off, there are many rip-offs & cowboys around but just as many decent contractors get tarred with the same brush. Been a contractor 24 years & only working on recommendations & tell my clients I won't be the cheapest or most expensive but will do best job possible for a fair price.
@marissakeynes2532
@marissakeynes2532 18 күн бұрын
Spot on. 👌
@Tittracker
@Tittracker Жыл бұрын
Really useful information. Thanks for taking the time to go through it all. Great job 👍🏼
@colinmiles1052
@colinmiles1052 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to do that breakdown of costs - very useful. And I'm glad you mentioned the costing of your own time. The trade off is your eye is always on the ball. As some of your earlier posters mentioned, Building Regs change all the time, adding to your costs. The great thing about being involved is that it (usually!) gets done how you want it. I'm 67 now and have got 2 projects on the go for two of my sons. I think these will be my last Particularly as they bought me the latest 1:24 scale Spitfire from Airfix for Xmas!
@siggy_7459
@siggy_7459 Жыл бұрын
We're planning our extension at the moment; your breakdown is excellent and has put my mind at rest that my finger in the air costs are about right. Looking forward to your guidance on trades - normally I do everything myself but for speed and sheer amount of effort I'm considering getting blockwork and the like done by someone.
@laidbackLUKEY
@laidbackLUKEY Жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking your time and sharing this with the public, top man 👍🏻
@moanahughes3593
@moanahughes3593 Жыл бұрын
Wow I comprehended all of that! Your itemizing is really useful template for putting projects together to consider and maybe stagger stages of development to budget. Thanks 😊
@PCNxx
@PCNxx Жыл бұрын
It has been a great following your journey with this project. Looking forward to the next one. Well done👍🏻
@GosforthHandyman
@GosforthHandyman Жыл бұрын
Cheers and no worries!
@leejames9422
@leejames9422 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for some time for such a detailed and honest appraisal video. Absolutely fantastic. Subscribed
@GosforthHandyman
@GosforthHandyman Жыл бұрын
Welcome on board!
@FiscalWoofer
@FiscalWoofer Жыл бұрын
Excellent video on pricing a build and what it would deliver…really important way to break it down! Thank you for sharing!!
@marisaharris1717
@marisaharris1717 Жыл бұрын
Amazing, thank you so much! This is unbelievably useful as we're just starting out and trying to get as much info as possible. Much appreciated 🙏🏼
@domsaneria7439
@domsaneria7439 Жыл бұрын
Most insightful of all the building videos I've watched, so many about the different ways to build but no one has broken in down by doing it yourself as opposed to asking the builder. thank you
@tomstroud1660
@tomstroud1660 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I’m a builder of 20+ years running my own business and even after all that time pricing jobs is my nemesis. I hate it with a passion, each job is so different and intricate that guide line costs per m2 are sometimes very vague and I certainly wouldn’t quote based on them alone. I have always considered it as gambling really. You can so easily come a cropper by not quoting enough and nothing is more soul destroying and financially crippling like under quoting and working for free, especially as it’s a very hard job both mentally and physically. One thing I would add is that I’ve deliberately not quoted for twice as many jobs as I’ve actually quoted for. This is because the job is comprised in some way e.g poor access, lack of room to operate, awkward neighbours etc. The number 1 reason though is because I’ve not gotten good vibes from the client. Too abrupt/rude, disorganised, unprepared for the realities of having your home turned upside down temporarily. It’s very much a two way thing. You must trust me to dismantle and rebuild the most expensive asset you will likely ever own and I have to trust you’re going to pay me for my work and be able to adapt and understand when things don’t go to plan i.e unforeseen problems and changes. As a final thought, most of the very best tradesman are the best because they do what they do best and that’s create actual real 3 dimensional objects and installations. That means they usually, like myself, hate doing paperwork and quoting otherwise they would just get a cushty office job in the warm and dry without breaking their back for what seems at times like not enough money. I’ll stop whingeing now 😂
@Nescaf3-
@Nescaf3- Жыл бұрын
Couldn't of said it better myself, I know your pain, but all worth it when the job is finished and you have a happy client.
@Topchip23
@Topchip23 4 ай бұрын
Legend
@tayyz1990
@tayyz1990 Жыл бұрын
Eventhought I am not planning for the extension, the amount of knowledge and insight is amazing.
@pazt9911
@pazt9911 3 ай бұрын
I've only come across your channel yesterday but you are definitely one of my favourite content creators! So knowledgeable and just and all around nice guy!
@davidstorm4015
@davidstorm4015 Жыл бұрын
Great video, really informative. We have an old (Victorian) stone-built detached house, to which we've done extensive renovations that have so far taken us 21 years, but we've done everything ourselves, except for some structural steelwork which the house needed in the cellars. One of the jobs we did was a full cellar restoration after the steelwork had been installed, this was a huge task as the cellars are full height rooms which cover the entire house footprint. I reckon we completed the work for about one tenth the cost of what it would have been if we had used contractors to do the same job, plus we probably got a higher standard of finish and everything was exactly how we wanted it. It is very hared work and very time-consuming, but you can't beat doing it yourself if you have the skills and the inclination
@jospan176
@jospan176 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video and breakdown of costs involved in this particular build. Every project is different and usually throws up its own issues.
@ivornestegg1524
@ivornestegg1524 Жыл бұрын
Really useful, and many thanks for all your other videos. I'm about to start an extension, and this information is really valuable.
@dereksandell3561
@dereksandell3561 Жыл бұрын
thanks fella, i think this kind of vid gives a lot of clarity for how things are in the trade at the moment, i'm a 1 - 2 man band , but i used to work on major construction sites. its been hard to express the benefit of a well managed installaion/project. you have demonstrated here why it is worthwhile paying for a bit of managment experience in the pot.....You have this from previous projects but, thank you for opening peoples eyes to how much co-ordination goes into what is a beautiful extension.
@benjaqsonworkshop9974
@benjaqsonworkshop9974 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting such a detailed spreadsheet breakdown of the whole process. It's very open and generous of you to share your costs and experiences of the build. Very helpful and very interesting. I do feel like I have a sense of investment having lived through your last four houses though now! All the best for 2023.
@GosforthHandyman
@GosforthHandyman Жыл бұрын
Cheers Ben and all the best for 2023 too!
@olivermorrissey8442
@olivermorrissey8442 Жыл бұрын
Coming from a Engineering background and having worked on construction projects for over 18yrs now, it's good to see someone breaking down a project on a residential extension. I've done extensions and I would have at around £96k from information and sizes off your plans. And that would be making a modest 10 to 12% I reckon. We only work to specification and above. Looks a nice job, well done. Regards
@ranek.
@ranek. 5 ай бұрын
This was such a great video, from clarity to quality of information shared. Wow, super well done , subscribed !
@andyc972
@andyc972 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this Andy, very instructive, planning an extension myself in the near future so this is very useful ahead of getting any quotes !
@tonydeltablues
@tonydeltablues Жыл бұрын
Very,very useful; I've forwarded this to my brother-in-law who is thinking of extending their 1930s semi in South Liverpool. Appreciate the time and generosity of sharing. Tony
@LogicPak
@LogicPak Жыл бұрын
Total project in Liverpool will cost £30k
@kevinclark5086
@kevinclark5086 7 ай бұрын
I did my own extension 4 years ago and came out at £26,000 with kitchen. That was 3m x 8m with bifolds toilet and utility. Bare in mind I only had a brickie, electrician and plasterer. Everything else I done myself including making sure building standards were met. But I've done projects in the past with work. It's not easy especially working full time as well but it's definitely worth the effort.
@Kborodo740
@Kborodo740 7 ай бұрын
if you done same project in 2023 this will cost you 40k+
@shawn7336
@shawn7336 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, we’re about to get ready for an 8x3m kitchen extension, a pretty big kitchen. I’m grateful for these costings
@katrynalewars933
@katrynalewars933 Жыл бұрын
A brilliant video - super clear and has vindicated our recent decision to self manage!
@rdtheskald
@rdtheskald Жыл бұрын
Good thing I can do the planning myself and also build it myself, all I would need to pay for would be materials and the groundwork! It is extremely beneficial to acquire construction skills in your lifetime!
@idlersdream826
@idlersdream826 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Andy, this was very interesting & meticulous. I really don’t know how you found enough time to do it all, then I read on another comment you had a day job too!! Amazing, well done to both of you 🙌👏👏👏👏.
@abplasterersofyork4305
@abplasterersofyork4305 Жыл бұрын
I find it inspiring watching this and all your other vids Ive a small (very small)channel I am a plasterer in York I watch your channel to see how it should be done KZbin that is I always try to give value and your channel really does show how it should be done. Cheers Alan
@dougsaunders8109
@dougsaunders8109 Жыл бұрын
Cheers Andy, very nice of you to share. Great job all around on the extension
@GosforthHandyman
@GosforthHandyman Жыл бұрын
Cheers Doug!
@Richard-ce8ej
@Richard-ce8ej Жыл бұрын
Great video, which couldn’t have come at a more appropriate time as we start our own extension journey! We have witnessed several builder nightmares and hope we can avoid this happening to us. Would be interested to know where you got your kitchen quote from? Well done and look forward to seeing further videos.
@carlduringer8409
@carlduringer8409 Жыл бұрын
Great video and really interesting. I'm on both sides of this, having been a joiner for 28 years and lecturing and working in construction. I am now halfway through an big extension at home that started pre COVID and due to spiralling materials costs, lockdown etc is still ongoing. As a self builder I have seen prices spiral during and post COVID... I wouldn't put any stead in pre 2019 prices...it's almost like a different era... In the last 4 months I have seen Aluminium window prices go up almost 40%. In the Swindon area building is going on at a staggering rate and materials demand and prices are definitely reflected in that... Don't even get me started on how expensive timber is. Our extension is 2 storey and single storey...roughly 60m2 . My original costings in 2020 using Spons (worth the purchase price as this really will give you a very accurate pricing structure) was £90k Inc £10k pc sum for kitchen and £5k for ensuite...this is materials and labour. I think realistically now we will be lucky if we keep it under £110k and I have done all the work...( Foundations with a mate who is a ground worker) all blockwork with another friend who is a bricky...so very much mates rates. All carpentry..roofing ..floors...concreting etc all me. Most of the plumbing fit out will be me but electrical work will be contracted out. Ours is what I would describe as High end build ( anthracite aluminium windows, Canadian cedar cladding, bespoke kitchen etc) so was always going to be on the high side but at the moment if you work on £2k per M2 you will give yourself some wiggle room. If your builder quotes £1k per M2 and doesn't itemise their quote then watch the extras roll in....or watch them bail. There are no 2 ways about it building is expensive at the moment and finding reputable builders is going to cost so don't kid yourself it will be cheap. One of the biggest single expenses is skips...holy cow waste removal has gone up over the years. I should point out we had 4 quotes pre COVID.... They ranged from £68k plus vat for just a water tight shell.. No kitchen, bathroom or floors / internal walls ( I was going to do those) to .. £160k plus Vat. ( With no PC sum for kitchen or en suite) none of the quotes included plans/architects fees, site surveys etc as I did all those myself. I think realistically if we handed our build to a good builder from the start and kept the same spec we would be looking at around £150-160k plus VAT... At the moment I am still on target for a £90k Inc vat spend but that includes everything including drive, gates and landscaping....so not just the 60m2... But remember I have done nearly all the work myself so no builders/ labour costs..but the quality is there it just takes time. ... It's the eternal triangle...Time, cost, quality.... Thanks for sharing your costs....all too often you see people running into financial difficulties when building ..relying on quotes and then looking at final figures trying to work out how they are 20% over quoted... Now imagine our situation where prices have literally doubled between pre COVID and post COVID.. god knows what we would have done if I hadn't been in trade. Take heed people ..never go for the lowest quote and always get references with pictures and testimonials you can follow up.
@alexlovett1991
@alexlovett1991 Жыл бұрын
Really good level of detail I look forward to watching your other videos. We’ve been trying to figure out how much an extension would cost and had mixed results from speaking around.
@AdrianMcGavock
@AdrianMcGavock 8 ай бұрын
What an absolutely fantastic video - can't believe I found this amount of real knowledge/experience by accident... like/subscribed and looking forward to the next one 👍👍
@paulr9572
@paulr9572 Жыл бұрын
So I built a 30m2 kitchen-diner extension myself (which is very similar to yours). Three new walls, built 8m out the back of the property. Brickie and his dad (who did ground working) did the foundations, brickwork, got a solid flooring contractor in, cleared about 40 tonnes of spoil (sloping site) and sorted the scaffolding for £13k. I bought the bricks, blocks and insulation. I then did pretty much everything else myself (except the Part P wiring), including the roof (pitched with hip) windows, doors, plumbing and boarding the ceiling and walls. Paid a plaster £800 for a skim, and an electrician £600 for the Part P stuff (I bought all the lights, sockets and distribution board). Plans cost a few hundred quid and the local authority forgot to charge for the building inspection. Whole thing came in at under £30k. Then I blew over £20k on a Wren kitchen sadly. Lots of quartz!
@ciaranbrowning6226
@ciaranbrowning6226 Жыл бұрын
More money for quartz!
@absaly
@absaly Ай бұрын
20k+ is labour/profit for builders
@nickbell8634
@nickbell8634 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always. Also need to be mindful of the extra costs when using trades. They always find some issue that will inflate the quote.
@martalibs
@martalibs Жыл бұрын
Thank you for creating this video! You have provided very helpful information.
@opentrail
@opentrail Жыл бұрын
awesome detail and explanation. Thanks for sharing!
@justinclark1765
@justinclark1765 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this. We had virtually given up on the idea of proceeding with our 15sqm garden room (even having spent £6k on planning and drawings) after being given an estimate of £110k inc VAT for an empty shell by a member of the "Federation of Master Builders". That is £7200/sqm! It is time to start searching again for a builder that we can trust. There is a public need for information like this. Thanks again.
@b.5087
@b.5087 Жыл бұрын
Did they have a balaclava on when giving you a quote
@RightWing1
@RightWing1 Жыл бұрын
Quotes I got from FMB builders local to me were definitely on the "high" side. I waited it out, mainly because many builders came in, and sucked through their teeth, I got my violin out and played whilst they gave the speel about rising materials costs blah blah blah. In the end, I managed to get a builder who was genuinely interested in the project, took my drawings, prepared a proper quote in writing and we settled on a cost. Looking at the tables he has come in around the £1500-sq/m and that is for a garage conversion to a home office with fitting it out with storage as well PLUS a tear down of a 5m x 4m old conservatory and do a fresh extension build all to the new building regulations and 900mm deep footings etc, solid roof, skylights the lot. Total bill £38k including VAT. The planning costs under permitted development with the council came to an additional £750 and Architect drawings etc £700. So all in I reckon we're under £40k.
@Neddie2k
@Neddie2k Жыл бұрын
I have been contemplating extending my house, looks like it’s achievable. Thanks for sharing
@benblundell1479
@benblundell1479 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. Great honest information, clearly presented.
@marksaddler
@marksaddler Жыл бұрын
Proper product placement with no less than three measuring tapes in the kitchen diner shots 👏
@GosforthHandyman
@GosforthHandyman Жыл бұрын
Just where we keep them! 😉👍
@marksaddler
@marksaddler Жыл бұрын
You also need to do an outtakes video or something like that- bouncing your noggin off the scaffolding back in February has to be in there 🤣
@BischBaschBosch
@BischBaschBosch Жыл бұрын
Well done mate. We mainly did large commercial/corporate jobs when I was still in it but did do a few small builds and extensions too. I just dug out my last set of builders bibles from 2009. Its m2 averages are £750 for basic going up to £980 for high spec (stone, thermal etc). We had our own formula that fell in between at the time. My earliest edition (early 00's), from £350 m2! Gone a bit crazy eh? Again though, excellent video and grand job on the extension.👍
@nemod3338
@nemod3338 11 ай бұрын
So Pound is losing its value fast. X2 every 10 years. That makes saving money worthless.
@paultay23
@paultay23 Жыл бұрын
Great work Andy..Well done to the whole family, love the Tape measures scattered around in shot. (luv mine)
@GosforthHandyman
@GosforthHandyman Жыл бұрын
No worries - cheers Paul!
@noureddine309
@noureddine309 5 ай бұрын
Best break down ever on you tube. Very much appreciated ❤ thanks a lot.
@henners88
@henners88 Жыл бұрын
Just finished a double story 5x4.5m extension and it’s cost £40k. Project managed it ourselves and sourced all the trades. Builders were quoting double and more to do the entire build, so we’ve saved a fortune.
@virginiasguevara6526
@virginiasguevara6526 Жыл бұрын
Which area and contact number is the your builder contractor please?
@cokyrobes
@cokyrobes Жыл бұрын
Is that a fully fitted out project? i.e with kitchen?
@AsktheAsian
@AsktheAsian 11 ай бұрын
Hi, can I contact you privately. I'm too looking to build a two storey extension 6x6, and have recieved crazy quotes
@kellydf7625
@kellydf7625 9 ай бұрын
Please help me too! Would be keen to understand how you made this happen
@dragozslanislav437
@dragozslanislav437 7 ай бұрын
Don’t go this route if you aren’t fully clued up and experienced. Get a bank loan as your property will increase in value anyway then pay a proper builder. You will lose a FORTUNE otherwise.
@Mr_Kenneth
@Mr_Kenneth Жыл бұрын
I had the sales guy from Beers the building merchants in today as Im looking to build a 3mx8m second storey extension. For the blocks, concrete and cement, ive been quoted just under 1500 quid. Glazing will be well under 2k for 3 french doors and juliet glass rails. These prices are more realistic as were building it ourselves over a few months. Im seeing friends getting silly quotes of 75k for the same size. Ill be bringing mine in between 15 - 20k. Great video
@MrFlyby34
@MrFlyby34 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful to understand what cost could be, and I think you have done it for a very good price!
@schmurgen5242
@schmurgen5242 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video and really helpful. It's amazing the variance on those quotes, and definitely pays to be informed and shop around eh
@LogicPak
@LogicPak Жыл бұрын
Best advice I’ll give to anyone living in England, try and find some Polish or non-English tradesmen or builders, they’ll do just as a good job at two thirds of the price.
@haroon420
@haroon420 Жыл бұрын
I managed a 7 meter dee and 8 m wide wall to wall extension, bedroom on first floor and a dormer in about £140000. I think I need another £20-30000 to now fully fit it out. It has ufh and tiling on all three floors, no radiators and new wiring. I achieved it by doing the work myself with my father and hiring two day labourers who did the grunt work. The only thing I outsourced to contractors was brickwork, skimming and the hot water cylinder installation and the electric fuse board. I did pipe work and electrics myself. Tiling myself. Etc etc. it’s taken two years of my life and probably another 6 months before I can get back to other stuff. But I have thoroughly enjoyed it. I won’t ever do it again though. 😂
@MrAdeyb
@MrAdeyb Жыл бұрын
I used to do loads of extensions in gosforth and jesmond areas, these are the sort of areas good builders can get a good name for themselves, good video mate
@JC-qf1jd
@JC-qf1jd Жыл бұрын
this is really, very very good information!! Thanks for your efforts here.
@sparkybrian8512
@sparkybrian8512 Жыл бұрын
Been working in the trades my whole life and would agree with everything you said. We also much prefer working for self managed builds if the client knows what there doing. Generally less stressful lol!
@leer798
@leer798 Жыл бұрын
I’d find it completely the opposite . I have refused to quote several jobs where the client had said they’ll project manage in the 17 years I’ve been in business. !
@mrboyban
@mrboyban Жыл бұрын
@@leer798 You couldn't get away with the rubbish workmanship in that instance, I understand that... Another plonker
@simonelliott2945
@simonelliott2945 8 ай бұрын
@@mrboyban I think the point is most customers don’t know what they’re doing with project management we have had a few and it was always really hard work and we ended up running the job because they were just overwhelmed by it. And the op did say if they know what they’re doing but in my experience they don’t.
@GregsWorkshopOregon
@GregsWorkshopOregon Жыл бұрын
I knew a guy who built a wooden boat. When we asked how much it cost he said, “I took all the receipts, organized them and put them in a binder as I went along. When I was done I sat down, opened the binder, then immediately closed it and threw it in the trash. I enjoy the boat too much to know how much I paid for it.”
@GosforthHandyman
@GosforthHandyman Жыл бұрын
Ha, that's probably the best approach!! 👍😂
@AndyPerry1972
@AndyPerry1972 Жыл бұрын
Love it! It is the old saying isn't it, something is only worth what someone is prepared to pay. Probably threw it so his wife didn't find out 😀
@spamheadthe3rd
@spamheadthe3rd Жыл бұрын
Watch the rebuilding of Tally Ho (Sampson boat co) - I'm looking forward to their spreadsheet!
@olgakarpekina2140
@olgakarpekina2140 5 ай бұрын
Thank you! Very very helpful. Much appreciate a very detailed breakdown to give me a better idea on what to expect.
@brianlloyd4796
@brianlloyd4796 Жыл бұрын
About to extend our kitchen so very helpful, thanks
@RagingBlade1
@RagingBlade1 Жыл бұрын
I have recently completed an extension which included an outbuilding (no soundproofing concerns) but went through a similar process opting for it to be within permitted development too. The 2.5 M maximum height was a little open for debate when researching especially on slopped gardens. Unlike you, we had a difficult builder and although I had expected him to be here for a significant portion, he would send a couple of his guys over each day with little supervision. I ended up having to project manage making sure materials were ordered on time, sequencing deliveries and trades people so that work would progress. As I was losing confidence with him, I was forced to check and verify that everything was being done to the right standard in terms of building regs, including the checking that the correct size steel was used. I now know that this builder did not know how to price a job or made significant assumptions on costs including labour. We had a fixed sum contract in place which detailed every requirement he needed to meet and checked with him multiple times that if we was confident with what he quoted. He didn't finish the job and I had to complete a substantial amount myself as well as bringing trades (front drive, rear patio, guttering, fascias, internal doors, some tiling, fence panels, coping stones and so on). After all this and having to pay more for others to come and finish jobs, the total price per SQM (£1190) was fairly close to what you've achieved. We are in the Midlands so in terms of price could be considered somewhere in the middle. The above doesn't include the external landscaping work which came in at around £83 p/SQM. Year (s) 2019-2020 Overall building extension (including redeveloping existing rooms) size 114SQM and external hard landscaping around 300SQM. All done now and have very similar spreadsheet with every little item detailed (I thought no one else will do that, lol). Well done on keeping the kitchen costs so low too. Hopefully this may help others who are in the early stages of their journey. Cheers and GOD BLESS.
@jay13thstep
@jay13thstep Жыл бұрын
Very interesting - we're in the Midlands and planning our build at the moment - whats the name of that builder so I know who to avoid?!
@nooboftheyear7170
@nooboftheyear7170 Жыл бұрын
Hmmm, I would like to say from a builder and a pm's perspective that I'm not suprised that the builder left the job. People want to work without being micromanaged in that way. If you have no confidence in your builder it is best that you politely let them know so that both of you can end your relationship amicably. I'm pretty sure that their costs soared 1000% from what you described. If you don't know what you're doing, hire a professional to work with them, i.e., supervise them. As intimated here, don't try hiring a bargain basement builder and trying to rachet them down into a professional outfit for that money. It will never happen and the stress involved will take years off your life but then, from what I've seen of some clients, that could only be described as justice. I'm not talking about criminal builders here, that know the regs and disregard them, I'm talking about the rough and ready, probably untidy lot too. In short, there is no shortcut. The cheap guy probably doesn't have a body priced in to take out waste and keep the site clean. They probably don't have an engineer on tap for awkward details or areas where the plan is ambiguous. And supervision costs in SE London were anything from £300 - 1000 per day depending on the class of project back in around 2020 iirc.
@MoontownMoss
@MoontownMoss 6 ай бұрын
Isn't everything in the Midlands considered somewhere in the middle? GO WITH CHRIST BROTHER AND JESUS BE WITH YOU
@stewartmcardle8149
@stewartmcardle8149 Жыл бұрын
Very thorough breakdown of costings but, only what I'd expect from someone so meticulous and tidy.... well done to you both. HNY.
@GosforthHandyman
@GosforthHandyman Жыл бұрын
Thank you and HNY too!
@upandabout6362
@upandabout6362 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video! I’m thinking about building my own extension and have been following your build. I’ve just subscribed, keep up the great work. 👍👏👏👏
@GosforthHandyman
@GosforthHandyman Жыл бұрын
Thank you for subscribing! 👍👍
@malachy9400
@malachy9400 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations, that was a great achievement, great informative video.
@Sir2ube
@Sir2ube Жыл бұрын
Biggest gripe I have is contractors who would rather grossly overprice a job instead of saying they’re to busy or not interested.
@mcfrosty8739
@mcfrosty8739 7 ай бұрын
Simple solution is to just turn them down haha you asked them for a quote and that's how much they want for it to be attractive to them
@Sir2ube
@Sir2ube 7 ай бұрын
@@mcfrosty8739 oh believe me I do. Just feel for the elderly and vulnerable being ripped off. Thankfully people are becoming more tech-savvy and can do their own research with help from few good honest people online.
@paulprescott7913
@paulprescott7913 Жыл бұрын
Very thorough Andy thank you. Getting any decent tradesmen/company to quote and do a job is a nightmare. And i can quite understand why your other building company only does commercial stuff now and there are a variety of reasons why. Im really impressed with your spreadsheet skills 😊 by the why. There is another issue thats a modern day thing, so as we are a simular age. We grew up with people who do things and we learnt from them. Sadly a large proportion of people cant put a plug on. And if it cant be bought from amazon (expecting perfection from a box) they struggle. Just different times thats all. I recently bought a new washing machine and some younger people were amazed that it was plumbed in and working within half n hour, not a difficult job at all we both know, but you get the picture. Thank Andy great vids as always.
@GosforthHandyman
@GosforthHandyman Жыл бұрын
Cheers Paul! Yes, absolutely. It was a real eye opener when I did property maintenance work, how much stuff folk just couldn't do for themselves. Changing light bulbs, basic repairs to blinds and one person even paid me to put their new lawn mower together! 😬😁
@terrytopliss9506
@terrytopliss9506 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Andy,this could be really useful for people contemplating this type of extension.👍👍
@GosforthHandyman
@GosforthHandyman Жыл бұрын
No worries Terry!
@thordagfinnhanssen5077
@thordagfinnhanssen5077 Жыл бұрын
We are getting quotes for a double story extension 50m2 x2 and a single story at the back of about 25m2 but also a total refurb of the old kitchen. I find your breakdown of cost very helpful. We are in the Wickham area. Quotes in the first instant ranged from 54k up to 120k.
@leona_devon
@leona_devon Жыл бұрын
Wow that's really useful, a great video thank you, my extension and renovation work starts next month, my costs are coming in around £70k, but that includes total renovation of the downstairs. but ya, this is so stressful, I can't tell you, not for the faint hearted, I hate stress. if you don't like stress, don't do this! It has certainly put me off doing such a large project again, and we've not even started yet.
@GosforthHandyman
@GosforthHandyman Жыл бұрын
Good luck with yours - enjoy the journey and try to have a laugh when things get really hard. 👍😁🤞
@jimmylad8714
@jimmylad8714 Жыл бұрын
Andy this was a great video . I do this also for a living and Builders are absolutely ripping it these days. No question raw materials are more expensive than previously but when you breakdown the costs properly it’s pure greed . Your man that said he couldn’t buy the materials for 64k will be someone who doesn’t know how to cost a job so he just over inflated to cover his incompetence. Keep up the good videos they’re excellent .
@GosforthHandyman
@GosforthHandyman Жыл бұрын
Think you're right Jimmy! Some are so busy I doubt they get a chance to actually analyse the costs properly. 😂
@CarFinanceSimplified
@CarFinanceSimplified Жыл бұрын
Labour costs are crazy. Back in 2005 I managed and helped to build a small 10m2 lean to extension and it came in at about £8000 including carpets and decoration. £2000 of that was a raft foundation and then 5 days’ labour for brickies. I’ve just build a cedar clad fully insulation garden office for £6000.
@christycullen2585
@christycullen2585 Жыл бұрын
Great Video Andy, Great info and your house looks fab. Happy New Year and I look forward to your 2023 videos
@GosforthHandyman
@GosforthHandyman Жыл бұрын
Cheers and happy new year too!
@thejupiter2
@thejupiter2 Жыл бұрын
My wife and I bought just under an acre of land for the purpose of eventually building our own home. We appointed an architect. He asked if you could delay building this home for atleast 12 months because building materials had gone up by at least 20%
@dees3179
@dees3179 Жыл бұрын
My incompetent neighbour has decided to do an extension which will be very obtrusive for myself and another neighbour. They have been granted planning over our objections but have neglected to actually speak to anyone affected about the project, or sort out party wall etc. never mind that they will need access from my property to do some of the build…. The only information we have had is from planning. Our fingers crossed hope is that they’ll not be able to afford it cos they are so slow to organise anything and prices are so quick to rise. We believe they have some kind of loan to finance it (eavesdropping over fence!) but they must be having to pay it back now and no work has started. Given their track record on other projects they will just make a huge mess along the back of our houses including taking down our fences, then abandon it for years, so we need them to either not start or sell with planning so if it gets built someone competent builds the nightmare extension. At least then it would be finished. Do you think the judge would actually put me away if I hit them on the head with a shovel? I swear I’ve been provoked!
@razibhossain4342
@razibhossain4342 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to make this video - found it very informative. Much appreciated!
@MrDweb
@MrDweb Жыл бұрын
Just finished our kitchen extension (3m x 2.4m),Including upgrading kitchen units and new quartz worktop and semi solid oak floor. I had a brickie, plasterer, joiner and plumber in. I did the wiring myself and I supplied all materials. I did all groundwork myself. Including planning, building control, architect and structural engineer fees, the total cost was £14500. Our expected cost was £15k.
@GosforthHandyman
@GosforthHandyman Жыл бұрын
Fantastic work - absolute bargain! 👍
@contactjd
@contactjd Жыл бұрын
2000 per sq m fully finished then 👍
@kellydf7625
@kellydf7625 9 ай бұрын
That's incredible! Did you assemble the team yourself then? Please share your secret!!
@ChrisM541
@ChrisM541 7 ай бұрын
Huge respect for that. It's also a potential massive help if your trade-competent. Being a tradesperson with connections helps. A lot!
@robthewaywardwoodworker9956
@robthewaywardwoodworker9956 Жыл бұрын
Random number generator! LOL. Well done, Andy. I would call it a renovation with an addition. And just for folks watching, the cost per square foot or meter, think about what is included in the renovation and/or addition. If you add one bedroom, vs one bathroom or kitchen, you have the two extremes, considering what is to be included in the new space. A bedroom would be the simplest sort of addition, with the least expensive components, vs a bathroom or kitchen that would include millwork, fixtures, plumbing, and more complex electrical considerations. So many things to consider, so that is why throwing a cost per square whatever at a project is a dangerous attempt at budgeting. I proper design should be done first and then get bids or quotes from reputable contractors or subcontractors. I have been in the design business for over 30 years and built many new homes as well as done many a renovation and addition. Don't get caught without a plan folks, and be sure that you make as many notes on those plans as you can, so you don't have contractors coming back to you with their hands out.
@GosforthHandyman
@GosforthHandyman Жыл бұрын
Cool - cheers Rob!
@pbrobotspbrobots1710
@pbrobotspbrobots1710 Жыл бұрын
nice heads up on building work and costs, I'm about to embark on a self build and have been looking at costs and have a price worked out with a small over budget if we need it. though when I told our friends how much we are going to spend on our build, and our friends told us how much they were spending on there refurb. it was almost the same as our budget for a new house build. there refurb was left to a contractor!! I love project managing as you save thousands on a build.
@TheRobsterUK
@TheRobsterUK 6 ай бұрын
Pre-Covid we were getting quoted £40-50k for a two storey extension tied into the existing roof (so pitched roof not flat). Now we're getting quoted £100-120k for the same work. So costs have basically doubled in the last 3-4 years.
@bogstandardash3751
@bogstandardash3751 3 ай бұрын
Your not wrong. I design extensions and loft conversions and the cost of construction has gone through the roof. I'm a bit worried because extension used to be a thing that normal people might consider, but very simple box at the back style extensions now cost 100k. I'm not sure many will bother at these prices.
@boomish69
@boomish69 Жыл бұрын
Did you look at sip panels for the walls? They can be prefabricated and put up in days compared to the traditional wet trades. The thermal values are excellent and can be really cost effective.
@majordelays4909
@majordelays4909 6 ай бұрын
Interesting
@MattBrighton
@MattBrighton Жыл бұрын
Was incredibly shocked at the cost versus size of the extension! What an achievement Andy! I'm going through the architect phase at the moment for a large conversion with front gable & loft conversion. Hoping to manage as much as I can, minus larger structural pieces
@andrewstewart7477
@andrewstewart7477 11 ай бұрын
Well this gives me some hope, as I start our 90m2 extension in Consett. Great video.
@darrenmaxwell3108
@darrenmaxwell3108 4 ай бұрын
Finding Decent trades is the biggest problem in the uk…. I’ve been in construction 22 years and it’s now worse than it’s ever been…. Good luck to anyone having work done 👍
@Archifx
@Archifx Жыл бұрын
Hey boss, in the states what you did is called an "Addition" that's the common slang. I just finished a 4,000 sq ft addition to my existing 1500 sq ft home here in the states at the exact same time as you. Stated documenting it on my YT channel and got lost in the details. Phenomenal build on yours as always. Wouldnt expect anything different from you. Been with you since the beginning. Bring back "Measuring Up!!!" haha
@GosforthHandyman
@GosforthHandyman Жыл бұрын
Lol that's ridiculously huge!! 😂 Will check out some of your vids! 👍
@matthewmiller9575
@matthewmiller9575 Жыл бұрын
What I’m confused about is your judgements on what people should be earning or charging. Some trades are much more difficult than others both in terms of skill required, danger and cost of equipment. Roofers, for example. how much would someone have to pay you to carry thousands of tiles up ladders of your back for example with all the contentions that come with that. There are fewer people available to do these jobs therefore the price is higher. In terms of “profit” you’ve not considered the actual cost of running the business - 100k worth of equipment is not unusual, 12k a year on fuel, 10k a year on insurance, works unit rental cost, cost of repairs, wages and staff pension contributions, business rates, ongoing training costs, replacement of tools and equipment that can’t be repaired, time spent on “free quotes” which can take 100s of hours each year, accounting costs the list goes on. Most self employed trades I know run on about 15 to 20% real terms profit. Your roofers for example perhaps made £1500 for a week. Divide that by the number of people on site and that’s their wages. That’s why it’s rare to see builders pulling out of the driveways of huge houses in the morning. The oversimplification of everything is all too common these days.
@thomassmith3711
@thomassmith3711 Жыл бұрын
What a brilliant video. Great honestly well delivered.
@RayDavies123
@RayDavies123 Жыл бұрын
I clicked on this with very low expectations but I am now subscribed. Good job!
@paulfenton734
@paulfenton734 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, I'm glad I stumbled across this (Subscribed). I've been refurbishing our home for some time now, doing all the work myself. We still have a single story kitchen diner extension that we want to build on the back and were going to leave this bit for a professional builder but with costs of things the way they are now, this has really inspired me to look into managing the build myself. I have most of the tools that I'd need already for the bits that I'd do. One question though. I'd love to get my hands on your Excel template for costs that I could customise. Have you considered sharing this? Good work on this.
@Ripper36068
@Ripper36068 Жыл бұрын
It's great reading all the DIYers comments here, 10% the cost etc. Well here's the thing! If you contract a building company in to do work you will more than likely have to pay VAT on the value of the work then there corporation tax they will have to pay, plus they will add a percentage for overheads such as liability insurance, handling paperwork etc. They will quite rightly add a profit margin so they can expand their business or use it purchase new equipment, etc. that's not including wages to subcontractors! I mean 20 years to do your renovations? it would've been cheaper contracting a professional builder! And if you've all had dodgy builders in the past, blame yourselves for taking the cheapest quote and not even doing you groundwork by checking out their qualifications!
@williamrose7434
@williamrose7434 Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing and taking the time to break it down in such detail .. very helpful .. thank you ..
@zupi.e
@zupi.e Жыл бұрын
Very much appreciate such detailed breakdown. This is invaluable advice to anyone looking to do any work on their house. One thing you didn’t mention or I may have missed is the cost of electrical work.
@amrix1
@amrix1 Жыл бұрын
Great video, very helpful. Always best to get 3-5 quotes. A friend of mine saved £34,000 in total on a high quality extension just by getting different quotes. The ironic thing was, the expensive builders called back a month later asking if they've found a builder for the project. One reduced his original quote by £23,000 and another by £32,000. Shocking how much builders inflate the price.
@GosforthHandyman
@GosforthHandyman Жыл бұрын
Yup, lockdown boom! Now it will be post-lockdown bust. 😬
@normanboyes4983
@normanboyes4983 Жыл бұрын
The real worry about builders who ‘make it up as they go along’ is once the project is underway and they get to think they may not be able to bring in the job - they will start ‘nickel and diming’ you or walk away.
@danyo1972
@danyo1972 Жыл бұрын
I know a builder and says how he prices is to think of a price, then double it. I got a small extension done and got quotes ranging from 12-36k. The architect recommended the cheapest bid, but actually got the builder to include extras he missed out on, so bid was upped to 15k. Builder did an great job, on time and on budget. A good architect is key.
@flynnjp19
@flynnjp19 Жыл бұрын
In the U.S. we primarily use 'addition' to describe any new added space, but extension also works.
@Thurmatron
@Thurmatron Жыл бұрын
Yeah but in the U.S you can’t even say tomato right and you drive on the wrong side of the road.
@virginiasguevara6526
@virginiasguevara6526 Жыл бұрын
Extention” is the English language term, whiltst “addition” is a US language term. English uses addition when measuring liquid, materials, and furnitures.
@shamrashid8884
@shamrashid8884 Жыл бұрын
Great video mate. Well explained. Many thanks
@g.p616
@g.p616 Жыл бұрын
Excellent vid and whole series.
@mandyleeson1
@mandyleeson1 Жыл бұрын
This must have taken a lot of work. Thanks Andy. Good job you are a complete control freak, looks like it's saved you about a hundred grand! Well done to you and Mrs Mac👏🏼
@GosforthHandyman
@GosforthHandyman Жыл бұрын
Cheers Mandy - it was quicker to fit our entire kitchen than it was to make this video!! 😂
@mandyleeson1
@mandyleeson1 Жыл бұрын
@@GosforthHandyman I can well believe it!
@asawdustjourney
@asawdustjourney Жыл бұрын
Excellent as always. Been looking forward to this one. Our wrap around single storey extension project is due to start in May. I am dreading our re-quote a month before. We got our price in feb 21 (edit Feb 22 sorry) and then booked our preferred builder based on reputation and then chose to wait over a year to get them. In terms of cost comparison, the 3 quotes we got were all within 10k for a circa 90k project and the average was bang on what the architect guessed prior to gaining quotations. I should add our project includes a complete ground floor rework (remove all walls and create new rooms), large bifold, large glass feature window and 2 triple velux roof windows in a pitched roof plus move of an existing window and sill adjustment plus plumbing and electrics (we just need to source flooring, kitchen and final decoration. I am also wondering what effect the new building regs will have on the re-quote: We didn't get regs done until after the change so the walls have changed for example, cavity now wider etc, so assumed more insulation. I would love to do some of the project management but just don't have etc time with work or other family commitments. Am tempted to fit the kitchen myself though and will be doing some built in cupboard work.
@GosforthHandyman
@GosforthHandyman Жыл бұрын
Good luck with yours! Unfortunately Feb '21 is just before prices really started to ramp up. Could be significantly more now, although probably not as bad as mid-2022. 👍
@asawdustjourney
@asawdustjourney Жыл бұрын
@@GosforthHandyman thanks. oops, just noticed the obvious mistake of which bloody year we are in. Feb 22 was the quote, so hoping the jump isn't too big.
@GosforthHandyman
@GosforthHandyman Жыл бұрын
Ah, should be OK. Feb 22 was probably peak of timber costs... I think.
@user-pf5xq3lq8i
@user-pf5xq3lq8i Жыл бұрын
What building regs changed?
@BestKiteboardingOfficial
@BestKiteboardingOfficial Жыл бұрын
Thanks for that, a great breakdown on the costs.
@darrenwalsh8546
@darrenwalsh8546 Жыл бұрын
I've just had an itemised quote for something very very similar to yours, wraparound double on side single at back and I nearly fell over. 104k just for the shell. Roof and retailing existing roof came in at 30K!! Looks like I'm project managing this one
@Jules_Pew
@Jules_Pew Жыл бұрын
I live in a high cost area (thanks London) so I think my single story extension, wetroom, new bathroom, garden studio, refurb kitchen and total redecoration of the whole house as well as painting the exterior was around half what people in my neck of wood say. I did do a lot of upcycling like used one door as the back door (no bi-folds) and the other one went into the studio, and 2 second hand solid oak doors kitchens to make mine. I could have done it a lot cheaper, but I did splash out in certain areas like ceramic flooring and taps. Not sure I want to ever see a heat gun (spindles are a nightmare) or a paint roller again.
@GosforthHandyman
@GosforthHandyman Жыл бұрын
Fantastic stuff Jules - yeah I dread to think what all of that would have cost! You have the satisfaction of knowing it's done properly too. 👍😊
@user-pf5xq3lq8i
@user-pf5xq3lq8i Жыл бұрын
Very interesting, did you video it, please show us.
@Jules_Pew
@Jules_Pew Жыл бұрын
@@user-pf5xq3lq8i Nope. Too busy dong the stuff.
@kellydf7625
@kellydf7625 9 ай бұрын
Hi Jules, please could you share with me who you used and your feedback on them?
@adhoc13
@adhoc13 8 ай бұрын
Me too. We are looking into a loft conversion and single storey extension in N. London. Any steers on who you have used, what we can do ourselves would be greatly appreciated
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