Our Honda Transalp Tuning Breakdown w/ HUGE Performance Improvements!

[@Rigatonispaghettioly]

Send this to Dork In The Road. He's still got his TA and as much as I respected your opinions on your tune it would be awesome to have a third party perspective plus the exposure from dork in the road has to be good for business. Thanks for considering this idea, awesome video and good work!

[@2wheeldynoworks]

We love working with content creators, and we'd be happy to flash his ECU! He's on our list of folks to reach out to.

[@DSplatter]

I’d say @Bigrockmoto too but i don’t think he has one anymore

[@jakeradske502]

@@DSplatterdoes not

[@motocatfish]

Tuning it for 87 octane for street use? BRAVO!!! 🙂

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Compression ratio is only 11.0:1.

[@dougelick8397]

@@exothermal.sprocket "Only". I remember when 10:1 was "high" and high octane only. Yes, I guess I'm old.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Japanese bikes have been to 14:1 with 91 octane. Yeah in the realm of motorcycle engines (except air cooled long strokers), 11:1 is moderate to low.

[@DavidBrubaker-pi4gj]

I second this. Also once the CBR750 version of this bike comes to the states it would be cool to see some content creators do some side by side comparisons since y'all have already put a bunch of the work in on tuning the new Honda 750 twin.

[@IdealBike]

Nice job, congrats ! I just did mine Stage 1 remap together with HPCorse Slip On Exhaust and K&N air filter. Gain about +5HP more, ok the European version has 92 HP as stock. So now, I am pretty satisfied, the throttle response its way much better, more linear, idle more stable, fuel consumption stayed the same. I have to stop at Stage 1 due to warranty reasons. :) Greetings from Romania !

[@elgar6743]

Enjoyed the vid...your thoroughness is very keen...awesome!

[@jamesreitmeier1974]

Any option to address the ABS and TC reset problem when cycling the key in user mode? That is one of the most common complaints I hear from those riding transalps.

[@vladimirmalchev557]

Hello, What about the EU version?

[@Wheelo40]

I have just taken my first ride on my newly flashed stock Transalp. Throttle response is greatly improved. Midrange power is the big winner. There seems to be more additional grunt rolling on from 4K to 6K than the dyno graph would indicate. It pulls significantly harder. In a word, it runs correctly now. After decades of modifying motorcycles, I can say without a doubt, there is nothing you can do for anywhere near $350 for this kind of result. Highly recommended. Hey, and same day turnaround on their end at least for mine.

[@Romenet310]

Did you have any exhaust changes?

[@silversoozookee2839]

Still stuck in Alabama This is exactly what I needed to see 😁

[@sasimayandbruce]

Would you be interested in flashing the Asian version of the ECU. I have a Transalp 750 in thailand with the 91 hp rating. Is it possible to just send you the ECU and you put it in your bike and do the dyno run?

[@desertracer2254]

Nate, does fuel economy suffer much if ridden conservatively? I realize it’s probably harder to not get on the throttle when the bike is running great but I’m thinking of long off-road ventures where fuel stations aren’t close.

[@ArjanHarre]

Question. I know you guys in the US are short changed with the Transalp and get an 80HP version. We down under and in Europe get a 90HP version. What is the difference? And will the ECU flash help the version we have? Also on the fuel side. We have 91, 95 and 98 octane here ... what should i be running after a flash?

[@999fugazi]

Also interested from a UK perspective. Also do you address the very low down rev range / very small throttle openings. I commute on mine and filtering traffic on this or moving through sub 30 MPH towns is painful/stressful on this bike. Does this tune address these problems?

[@patkennedy1]

Another Aussie here, 18,600 kms in on my 2023 model, and I was about to ask the same question regarding the EU model vs. the US model. Given we got the 90 hp (at the crank, not the wheel presumably) model, and are uncertain as to how different ours are to the US model tested. Is it just the (single outlet) muffler, or is there more to the difference? Cams, ECU etc.

[@patkennedy1]

As to the octane readings - it is the difference between MON and RON measures. US 87, 89 and 91 are about equivalent to our 91, 95 and 98. I try to always run 98 in my Transalp (and all my bikes) in spite of its modest compression, as it should keep the injectors cleaner, and with such amazing economy, the cost is virtually irrelevant.

[@patkennedy1]

@@999fugazi The 'sudden' response to small throttle openings in lower gears IS annoying, and I tend to use one gear higher in that situation. IE, third instead of second around suburban 90 degree corners, and leave it in second rather than first for very low speeds. I suspect the play between the twist tube and bar might be part of this jerkiness. Perhaps someone will come up with a better twistgrip, without all that looseness.

[@desertracer2254]

One more question. With the K&N filter on, can you hear the intake noise more? The intake noise on my Africa Twin was substantially more with the Twin Air filters than OEM

[@patkennedy1]

No audible difference for just fitting the K&N element to the Transalp. Just a lot of whingeing noises as I dismantled half the bike to access it... 10 x panels and about 50 x fasteners is ridiculous! At least the stock element wasn't very dirty after 12,000 kms (about 7,500 miles) with a fair bit of dirt road use. I will look into shortening the dismantling process next time, as apparently it can be short cut. But I will be checking the valve clearances then anyway.

[@DmitrySerbin]

Can we do it remotely ? I'm on the other side of the globe.

[@scottlaursen]

Im local. You guys do in shop service??

[@Romenet310]

Do you do tuning of other bikes like a 2023 KTM 1290 super adventure S?

[@Wheelo40]

Placed my order and my ECU is winging its way to you! Probably some of you have not done business with this company before. They are quick and professional and communicate very well. $350 sounds expensive until you price a dyno tune on your bike or even a Power Commander. I was very happy with my last tune from them and I expect I’ll love this one too. My 2 cents.

[@elmanortega]

One more question: is there a way to hack the TFT LCD and get more out of it?

[@elmanortega]

Hi, I'm getting one in Costa Rica. I've been checking your videos, and I would like to modify my bike. Nothing crazy, but I want it to feel alive. I'm planning to add an exhaust and air filter, plus this mod. I would love to see an eco mode for cruising around and the option to be able to get the bike to perform the way it's supposed to perform. I'd love to get more info about this bike. Thanks!

[@meanman6992]

Emissions tuning from manufacturers due to the EPA on vehicles like motorcycles is beyond stupid for how few are on the road and how little fuel they burn….

[@robertdenney-cq9vt]

Any headway finding that pesky TC code? Would love to have it stay removed in user mode after ignition shut down.

[@gronno]

There is a plug in dongle now available to turn tc off with a flick of a switch, no more scrolling.

[@robertdenney-cq9vt]

@@gronnoplease tell us more! Where do I find this? Thanks

[@gronno]

@@robertdenney-cq9vt Google LSK offroad dongle

[@LuvADuc]

Thank you!

[@cliftonsr]

Honda uses an A/F sensor setup instead of an O/2 sensor system on the Transalp 750

[@2wheeldynoworks]

No, it absolutely does not. It's the same 4 wire 0.8-0.9v narrowband 02 sensor that Japanese manufacturers have been using for over a decade on fuel injected motorcycles, and the automotive industry was using 40 years ago. The only OEM in the motorcycle industry using proper widebands is BMW on select 2019+ models.

[@cliftonsr]

@@2wheeldynoworks when you look it up in the parts section in the repair manual or order the part from Honda they call it an A/F sensor for the Transalp. I called it an O/2 sensor also but I was corrected by Honda so I'm just telling you what the people from Honda is telling me.

[@irarabesc]

they call it the air fuel ratio sensor, p/n 36533-MLB-D01

[@sonnys8535]

​@@irarabescthey also call the turn signals " winkers " 😂

[@Myrussell67]

I have a feeling when Nate does all this work to a platform that it’s a hint on what’s coming in the future of Honda. I bet they put this engine in a sport type motorcycle at some point.

[@easyfromtnbtw3555]

It started in the Hornet naked bike but we didn’t get em in the US

[@exothermal.sprocket]

There may be a full fairing Hornet 750 at some point. Who knows. The MotoAmerica series is doing pretty well with RS660, GSX-8R, R7 and the occasional SV650. The 750 Hornet with full fairings would join that bunch and fit right in. Honda however, doesn't make decisions based on American markets very much.

[@easyfromtnbtw3555]

It would be nice if they did one like the cbr650 with a little bit more upright seating position

[@MagnumMuscle1000]

So it can have as much HP as a 1992 CBR 600F2 😂

[@exothermal.sprocket]

@@MagnumMuscle1000 Do you have a 1992 F2? I'm sure those who know that motorcycle are few and far between.

[@BoogiemanMoto]

Since this is the only recent adventure bike I’ve seen you tune, I came here to ask if you could please work on developing a tune for the Aprilia Tuareg 660. The only option right now is an UpMap unit with tunes from Gabro racing in Italy.

[@clayfarnet970]

Hey Nate, Does the flash void the warranty?

[@randomOAS7]

Lol, yes. Duh.

[@MrGolden28473]

does this help with the buzzyness from the engine below 5500? how does this compare with the reported 90hp in eu?

[@easyfromtnbtw3555]

Do you have any idea which exhaust system makes the most power. I’ve heard SC Project but I haven’t seen any numbers on it

[@dsbcrypto938]

can you please do a tune for a triumph tiger sport 660? im not sure if its the same as the trident 660 or not. would be cool to see! thanks

[@TheRealMax77]

any work like this for the africa twin? (mine is a 2022)

[@growtime2197]

Shipping mine out to you this week

[@twowheelventure]

How did it go? You happy?

[@bamidrol]

Hey there! Any plans for tackling the BMW F900R? It can really use a remap and quickshifter overhaul. Would love to see some footage on that. It's a really nice bike and here in europe it has stirred up the naked segment quite a bit.

[@meanman6992]

What you’re talking about w/ nonlinear or Restricted throttle is why I HATE drive by wire throttles.

[@josephreisinger33]

Just a quick question do you do maps for 2023 Honda cb 500f and the fairly new SCL 500?

[@exothermal.sprocket]

I don't see it on their site, but give their # a call.

[@cliftonsr]

I wonder if you can bring up compression a bit with a little head work or look into some sparkplug options to get a hefty torque gain to the rear wheel.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

GSX-8S/R based engine makes upwards of 64-65 ft-lb with full tuning. Not sure about the V-Strom 800 but I bet similar. The Transalp seems more horsepower strung (higher revs required, less torque) compared to the 776cc Suzuki.

[@TopNotchPanch]

This engine should be in the rebel 500 frame

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Now if only Honda equipped it with cruise from factory. There's an aftermarket electronic cruise but that's just ridiculous.

[@Wheelo40]

Agreed. I would have paid Honda for the option. As it is, my Veridian cruise control just shipped today after a very long back order period.

[@jonwoodworker]

You people know that Honda makes better, faster, and more capable motorcycles, right? You can keep polishing that turd but it will still be a turd. Nobody is using a Talp to go over logs, sticks maybe.

[@dougelick8397]

There are easier ways to say you haven't spent any time on one.

[@jonwoodworker]

@dougelick8397 Been on the Talp on two separate occasions. My conclusion is that the bike is useless as an adventure bike, and there are way better options for the street. I've ridden Hondas all my life (56) and have 3 in my garage. But I don't understand what purpose the Talp serves. The electronic interface is horrible, and the suspension has to be one of the worst in the last 20 years. With the low hanging sump, exhaust, and sag from its own weight, the ground clearance is like 5". Do you really want me to list the other major issues with the Talp?

[@dougelick8397]

@@jonwoodworker "My conclusion is that the bike is useless as an adventure bike" Useless? How did you figure that? I think you better let folks who take theirs off road know it's just not working for them. No, the T.A. isn't for running the Dakar or gnarly single track. Neither is a KLR 650, a considerably less capable, super popular bike; people take them all kinds of places. " I don't understand what purpose the Talp serves" It's a bike for someone who wants a machine that's good on the road, can crush miles if you want and still be competent on fire service type roads, packed dirt, gravel, etc. Or a bit more with some basic mods. " With the low hanging sump, " That's completely protected by the skid plate you should have before heading off pavement. That oil collector is deep, but for a reason. The pipes hanging under the engine aren't off road friendly out of the box, but again, skidplate, problem solved. " sag from its own weight" Yeah, like many Japanese bikes, it's undersprung. Never the less, I have no issue setting the preload to where it needs to be as a 170 lb rider. A stiffer spring isn't an expensive upgrade. A better rear shock is the biggest miss on the T.A. It's also quite nimble for such a tall bike because of how low it carries its weight. "the ground clearance is like 5". It's 8.35" w/o a skid-plate. So lets just call it 8-ish with. Or maybe a 1/4 inch less than a Tenere 700, which nobody complains about. " and there are way better options for the street" Of mid-weight ADVs, which are those? Sure, you can get a sport bike, but that'll be rubbish on gravel or crossing a country. Despite the 21" front wheel, the TA is a blast on twisty roads and the engine is a gem. Seems like you're asking a lot from a $9999 bike that's high value for the price. "The electronic interface is horrible," Funny, I've had no issue with it. " Do you really want me to list the other major issues with the Talp?" Yeah, why not? List the glaring faults you discovered by riding a TA twice. I have 1700+ miles on mine and have had no issues whatsoever. It's far better on the road than I anticipated.

[@fynn8252]

@@dougelick8397 Best KZbin reply in history!

[@papachis9535]

Interesting. In Europe, this exact same Transalp has 90.5hp @9,500rpm, and 55.3lb ft @7,250rpm in stock trim……

[@fs5866]

Not at the wheel

[@irarabesc]

in Europe it's not exactly the same, there are differences in h/w and s/w