Our World, Without Smartphones

[@enricotartarotti]

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[@psf021]

I totally get your point. Grass is always greener... there really is no perfect timeline and that is the point. Great videos! Forza Italia!

[@zeitgeist888]

I lived pre internet ,email, cell phone, GPS,google and Amazon. There were some real benefits but it is better now with technology than a world without it even with the multiple negatives.

[@SpiritmanProductions]

I love your videos. And I know imperfections reveal the human side of things. But you said something in your intro that makes my ears itch! You mixed two different expressions: "What something looks like" concerns resemblance. e.g. "It looks like a flower." But "How something looks" (note, no 'like') concerns quality. e.g. "It looks beautiful." I hope you understand my pain. 😊 Keep up the good work.

[@RinoaL]

Glasses are technology, books are technology. I've lived in a world without digital electronics, but I haven't lived in a world without technology.

[@Sleezy.Design]

Those are not modern technologies though. That's what the video was about.

[@Nimbereth]

I was born in the 1970s. For me, the world begun to erode after 2000s. Cellphones were ok, but Smartphones and Social Media are evil for our world.

[@haythemgataa]

Yoo this is an amazing take and POV! Sure, you could've gone more in depth and shown more extreme changes in those timelines, but still, great work! Made me think twice about what we currently have.

[@thecubeku]

fr this video is really good the editing is chill

[@mushfiqurrahman1107]

3:09 Can verify. We, in Bangladesh, have recently experienced a revolution toppling a dictator of 15 years, and that was largely made possible by Facebook where everyone shared videos, opinions, raised voices

[@lux_fero]

I like how you didn't even thought of the concept of local networking, fedonet, BBSs, and open source

[@Iam_inevitabIe]

Just like he didn't go through any other topic in the history of the world beside the one he wanted to put in HIS scipt

[@richardjevcak1740]

fediverse is completely irrelevant man🤣

[@JSSMVCJR2.1]

@@Iam_inevitabIe He's a designer. Not a Techie.

[@JSSMVCJR2.1]

Should he tackle those things, assuming he has rudimentary knowledge at least, it would be a gazillion-parter.

[@super_terram]

Familiar with the Fallout games? Tv show? What you're descibing is the lore for the alternate reality in that game. The year is 2077, super computers, ai, fusion cars... no internet, no cell phones, no color TV. ...then the bombs fall and the world is obliterated in nuclear fire and then stitched back together again. Technology still exists, new advancements are made... but in an irradiated world. Very interesting concept really.

[@thecubeku]

this ending is gold

[@Stacy-Freshener]

Just realized it .. :))

[@vivianriver6450]

"Who is Andrew Tate" was a really good flourish!

[@HalfInt]

You forgot something in the No-Internet scenario: You would communicate much more via telephone, which actually has a reliable and good sound quality. That is how it was when we got ISDN, and calls were not yet transferred via internet and radio (i.e. mobile phones).

[@enricotartarotti]

Good point!

[@AllonKirtchik]

Idk, to me that scenario would mean communicating much much less, because long-distance and international phone calls are hellishly expensive To the extent that taking 4-5 long flights per year to visit people instead of 1 might become the cheaper option

[@Jessicab-u7c]

@@AllonKirtchikpeople would spends lots of time on the phone and teens mostly would meetup at the mall that was your social media.

[@eugendaufyeugen3234]

The good thing is that he doesn't tell that it doesn't exist and the consequences, but thinks of how it would be instead, and more important that it stills exists, but just in a more restricted way, and I think that's way more realistic.

[@aa-jl7qs]

It's not a matter of whether it would happen, but rather who would do it first. If Apple didn't do it, someone else would.

[@bringbackthefiretv495]

This was great but I was looking forward to seeing the world again as it was as a kid. TVs were not in every room. Kids were out side in the neighborhood by 9 am on weekends. We were creative and had fun. We played waffle ball or sock ball in the streets and butts up against the garage. We read encyclopedias and thumbed thru pages of books and went to the library to do reports. So many more things. Going somewhere was an exciting event and the only fast food was McDonalds, weinerschnittzle and burger king. Choices didn't exist for Oreos and MnMs. Kool-Aid was the only option for flavored drinks and they didn't even have sugarless options. No microwave either so food was cooked by parents or the teens took turns. We mowed our own lawns, did our own nails. There's so much more. Life was rich with possibilities. Imagine thumbing thru pages of classified ads for a job or going to an agency that places you in whatever industry you wanted to work in. This video was great though wow. I liked life better than. People were nicer to each other. There was less division, more kindness and love.

[@bobnolin9155]

I'll bet you're White

[@rionka]

it's a nostalgia that makes these feelings, people were good and bad in every possible timeline. it depends only on us and our choices.

[@bringbackthefiretv495]

@@rionka this post was about times. There was a simpler time where people were less frantic, less adgetated. The social construct was different due to choices available. There was more family and friends gatherings around a pool party or barbecue.

[@Something_i_think]

What country were you living in? Were you before microwaves? There was so much division during the cold war and fear of that anytime bombs could drop and kill everyone. before and after. Also do you not want differnt flavors like peanut m&m's that are old as heck? I agree with the other person that its nostolga giving those feelings. And can you not mow your lawn anymore?

[@vivianriver6450]

@@Something_i_think As a millennial, I think it's kind of weird that I grew up under the "nuclear gun" and have never known a world without ICBMs and nuclear weapons. Just several generations ago, this would be considered horrifying and appalling to imagine!

[@ChocoRainbowCorn]

Not gonna lie, MP3 files suck. But I would do _anything_ to live in a world without music and video/film/movie streaming services. Because these things suck even more. Same with vertical videos.

[@Jonathantuba]

I am old enough to know the pre-Internet days and pre-smartphone days, and honestly I would not want to go back. There are problems today particularly with screen addiction, but it’s much better being in the connected world. No way when I was young, would I be talking to someone the other side of the world and work wherever I am. If you’re young and don’t know those days, you don’t know how lucky you are today. Any problems today, are not with the technology, but how some people might use them.

[@rionka]

I agree. Thank you.

[@dimitridehouck9506]

Same here man. It's easy to romanticize the past with today's problems. But we still have it largely better than 20 years before. Especially the middle class.

[@vivianriver6450]

I think that the major problem here with technology is not "how some people might use them", as in end users, but in the fact that the technologies are designed by corporations that have profit as the ultimate motive and are completely indifferent to their products causing harm, so long as it is profitable. I had a lump in my stomach when I realized that my daughter has a "tablet" in her hands that *I put in her hands*, knowing that apps like Facebook and Instagram are designed to cause harm because it makes money. (here, I refer to addiction and the loss of time spend with real world connections and the exposure to harmful content as "harm") As long as people spend time on the platform, it makes money for them, consequences to you and me and our children are irrelevant to them.

[@DannyK1992]

5:05 I still remember using TrackID on my Sony Ericsson phones back in 2008/2009

[@RUBBER_BULLET]

3:23 Yay! Belfast! We've keeping ourselves entertained for decades.

[@nataliealliepage7155]

Am I the only one who actually likes digital electronics?

[@mike-williams]

I am amazed how easily people are stumped trying to get information now, when it's mostly a simple Google search away. Prior to the web, if I needed assistance or training on (say) computer related topics I would open up the printed manual, or walk to a bookshop and search for a text that covered the topic I was interested in and buy that. Now I just read forums from people making complaints about the difficulty of working out how to do something, when pasting the relevant text into a search engine would instantly find a variety of training videos, libraries of sample code and various step-by-step solutions. It's not just computer stuff - I can find out how to cook, knit, fix things around the house. It seems there is a combination of devaluing effort and insistence that today's magical technology is even more magical.

[@_Mike.P]

Without the internet, the English language would probably also be less normal to know around the world And I would have spoken better German like the the generations before me in the Netherlands.

[@JSSMVCJR2.1]

We wouldn't be worrying about English rotting our languages to death.

[@NexusKodry]

I like how the timelines look like the usb logo ✨

[@derfeuerhamster]

The issue with all of this was never the technology itself. It was people.

[@AnthonyCarrick]

This was really fun!

[@Mixppmix]

I ABSOLUTELY LOVE this video. Please do more of such alternative history tech speculations. I would also like to know how did you decided on the prices of those services you mentioned - 1dollar per minute of call etc.

[@rionka]

I always knew that without the internet i would still be just the miserable kid in the little village that no one understands... but damn this made me even more sure about that. Thank you internet. You made my life so much better.

[@Nimbereth]

You're still weird.

[@The_Butcher_of_Blaviken]

Smartphones had cameras even before the iPhone. The better these cameras would get the higher the need to share photos and videos. A company would create an app for the users to share these photos and that's how you get Instagram. The iPhone in the grand scheme of things is not as important as people make it out to be today. Some other smartphone manufacturer would figure out the "ideal" smartphone and then the industry would follow that design just how it happened with the iPhone. The only difference is it might have taken some more years for this "ideal" device to be built. Same with the open internet. One company would decide to make their own version of the internet open for all in order to compete with the other closed internet companies. This open internet would become so famous that all other companies would eventually open up their own internet and merge them to the wide web. The most interesting alternative timeline would be one where no such thing as the internet ever gets invented. Every piece of software runs only locally and robotics are on the forefront of technology with software being extremely limited compared to today's. Similarly to Japan where hardware is way more advanced than software.

[@SwordTomato]

nostalgia: misremembering the past in a positive light

[@thecubeku]

i think but at the end the open internet will happen coz after all i am inevitable

[@ThndrShk2k]

For Alt-Timeline 1, without social media there would still be memes and massive online communication. You mention Forums and they were the biggest areas where people communicated prior to the expansion of social media forums. If TikTok isn't social media, then early youtube wasn't social media at all. Many big memes even into the mid 2010s originated on one of the biggest web forums for shitposters: SomethingAwful. They along with platforms for hosting the memes such as Newgrounds and KZbin (vimeo, etc.) played a pivotal role in how social media itself developed to bring those forms of media under their own silos. Back in the early day of social media Facebook and Twitter allowed federation of posts between their platforms because of how people were just used to having specific websites for different types of content and communication. Things would most likely become more federated, like email, in those spaces without siloed social media. For timeline 2 if the iphone never existed then smartphones would have taken off anyway, but they would most likely be more like small PCs than locked down silo'd bricks.

[@lapiswolf2780]

Bring retro futurism. Bring cassette futurism. Make the world not dependent on the internet and smartphones. If only. :) I think I would happy with a middle ground or fusion of our current timeline and the alternate in terms of computers.

[@Jessicab-u7c]

Back then the mall was your social media so was the telephone.

[@Konic_and_Snuckles]

So basically, we're all living in the free-to-play timeline

[@idcrafter-cgi]

if iphones never existed then will there still be a evolution to a touschreen device and then would Android like system (linux woth java based system) and probably also symbian be the biggest operating system for phones.

[@alexatkin]

Yeah I think its unrealistic to think we wouldn't eventually end up in a similar place with smartphones, without the iPhone. I think it would have just taken a bit longer.

[@XxMsrSzprzxX]

Wireless communications would have taken off, people would have likely leveraged radio tech to get around having infrastructure.

[@avgperson25]

nice video man but i feel like it didn't really get into things as much as they do in your other ones'. I like how you compartmentalized the key things that smartphones provide but i was waiting for all of the pieces to be put together and displayed in any form, may it be philosophical discussion or anthropological discussion. To me it was merely scratching the surface on a very big subject since the phones do occupy hours of our daily lives! Either way i understand you have a lot on your plate and had to squeeze this into an ideal youtube video length with retention and so on in mind, so I understand the lack of depth ultimately. Just dropping this comment here in hopes of you taking up this subject again (maybe a part 2?) where you go for a deeper dive. I don't generally comment on videos but I find you smart and perceptive hence my comment here is made in respect of you.

[@egmccann]

I can't help but think you're off with the "what if there was no internet?" After all... lived in that world. Yes, things were still segmented (once we had PCs.) What we had were BBSes, AOL, Compuserve, Prodigy - yes, they all had their own "networks," you could (eventually) send between them. It wasn't horrifically expensive, it was just a collection of walled environments.

[@hmdak]

I saw bro in a Lufthansa flight from Munich a few days ago, was it really you, please confirm? I'm not sure but I'm fairly certain!

[@chetan.sharan]

at least someone is grateful 😀

[@Jessicab-u7c]

The British guy who invented the internet is starting to sort of regret it.

[@radasfck]

In alternative reality theyre using flying cars and cured stupidity but here we are🤷‍♂

[@puffinjuice]

Books are technology!

[@ethimself5064]

I suppose to answer the question, just go back to the 60's where the calculator did not exit

[@eshnd-1]

calculators were invented in the 1640s lol

[@ethimself5064]

@@eshnd-1 Are you a clown? Even the top scientists on this planet only used slide rulers. These are not calculators as we know them as a digital device mentioned in the vid. Get a grasp in the vid

[@alvarolozano007]

It has some benefits... Spotify doesn't pay artists what they really deserve

[@Sett86]

This is a bad ad. I mean I'm 100% sold, but where is the product? How doe one come by the time machine?

[@thecubeku]

yooo 3m 31 views 0 comments im first yoo great vid

[@jafroni6479]

great video i don't know why it's unpopular

[@mkontent]

I don't know man. You say all these ways in which what we've got is supposedly better, but what you say about other timelines sounds inherently... simpler. It sounds like something that is much more "human scale". Yes, may be you only have access to one private network of one of your country's network providers. But in exchange for that, you get an environment is much more homely, local, easily policeable and kept clean. It's a community in itself, you don't have to seek a way to reconnect that mess back into something that makes sense to a human.

[@ZekeSlashedits2008]

I would live alternate 2 because I still have internet with a computer but no IPhone, Ipad or IPod and teens my age don’t really go outside and I’m on my phone but without I would still make vids I do vs edits but vs edits won’t exist because TikTok doesn’t exist Idk what vids I’ll be doing in alternate 2 but living in alternative 2 would be the best for me only computers and no Apple devices and it’s me outside lol

[@SuperLlama88888]

I like cool free things

[@saulgoodman2018]

So KZbin doesn't exist. How do we watch your videos? VHS? Beta max?

[@natassiatavares4568]

I think poverty levels would be way higher! The truth is that we need the made up jobs the internet gave us. How many people today only have a job because of the internet? Without the internet and with the rise of population we’d all be begging for real world jobs that are just not enough.

[@ishishraa]

2:46 it's that a Yotobi reference?

[@Jakku_Azzo]

I have binged this guys content for 4 hrs, his stuff is great . Pls help

[@danh5637]

You should have began with binary. And asked what if we began with decimal base 10 instead.

[@cajayt]

No.

[@Jessicab-u7c]

The diabetes test on your arm never would be invented either possibly resulting in some higher healthcare incidents.

[@RickyMaveety]

Who’s Andrew Tate? I there a timeline where we lose him, but keep the rest?

[@vivianriver6450]

Can we have a timeline that also leaves out Matt Walsh.

[@marvinochieng6295]

rubbish

[@Good_Minso]

No Bill Gates didn't, right?😂 That's hilarious that guy basically created his own biggest competitor xD I did not know that

[@eshnd-1]

Do you know what technology even means? Boats are technology, clothes are technology, Chemical technology solved world hunger back in the early-mid 1900s. Most of us would just be dead right now if technology didn’t exist.

[@mattiamunari]

The title literally says MODERN tech, bruh, what are you even on about? 😂

[@JSSMVCJR2.1]

@@mattiamunari The title has been modified to a more clickbaity question, anyway.