How Singapore's Black Magic Specialist Shapes Your Destiny | Hidden Hustles

Tantric love rituals, posessed trinkets, voodoo dolls... Just what lies in the depths of Singapore's occult industry?
Babaji has been performing rituals, exorcisms and selling amulets for the past 20 years, and is one of the pioneers of the occult scene here.
In this episode of Hidden Hustles, Wendy spends a day shadowing him at work, to find out if the magic he practises is the real deal.
══ Content ══
0:00 Intro
1:08 Tantric break-up rituals
4:11 Babaji's background as an exorcist
6:30 Why use black magic to solve problems?
8:02 Occult trinkets, the homes of spirits
9:43 Is black magic just a cheat code in life?
12:00 The dark(er) side of being an black magic specialist
14:04 Tantric reconciliation rituals
16:51 Wendy's reflections
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[@OGS.Official]

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[@gelpy27]

isn't this supposed to be a documentary-style series? why was it edited to look like a horror movie when Babaji was performing his ritual? what's with the demonic representation that's so belittling, on top of the interviewer's ineptitude to remain neutral and ask respectful questions? maybe do some research before going into someone else's space and spew ignorant stuff.

[@jackiejack3r]

I can't agree with you more. @@gelpy27

[@carrotadventures3222]

I believe that the interviewer should have gone into this kind of conversations with an open mind. You were there to gain insights on someone else’s beliefs, not challenge them. It just cane off as really disrespectful especially when he welcomed you into his space and shared openly about his line of work. It’s like shitting where he eats.

[@bbtan4655]

How true, indeed.

[@adminadmin3649]

If she challenged him, I came out understanding interviewee better. Liked watching interviewer and interviewed. Gd

[@cnachopchopnewsagency]

Agree. Thats why i dont like this black christian to be on our local series. She brings her "American conservative" worldviews.

[@genevieveaniko6492]

​@@cnachopchopnewsagencyracism is your God

[@matreen427]

she asked questions that challenged but yet respectful - as a good interviewer should. She was honest in sharing her thoughts. Like this interviewer

[@Supernoodlezs]

Babaji is amazingly fluent in speaking, and expresses concepts very clearly. In fact, he seems open minded yet logical. He seems to understand the place of occult and it’s application in our everyday life. Wendy, on the other hand, appears overly judgmental - her facial expression fails at her attempt to mask the disgust she is feeling. As some other viewers have mentioned, this is poor coming from an interviewer. If I were Babaji, I’d actually feel insulted. He shouldn’t be made to entertain an interview that is conducted by an individual with such a narrow-minded and shallow outlook in religion/supernatural/unknown.

[@cnachopchopnewsagency]

Agree. Thats why i dont like this Wendy black christian to be on our local series. She brings her "American conservative" worldviews. She did not have the neutral mindset and asian touch sensitivity while doing this kind of interview. Feels like she try to evangelise us and babaji lol Even our Singaporean Christians will have better sensitivity and finer approach in doing this kind of interview. Next time, just get our local presenter only la

[@96dugu41]

erm i would say the Babaji is really good and kind, if he decided to refuse then we will lose one great insight of our sg story video😂

[@octville]

I wouldn’t say she is being condescending. She is trying to play the role of a sceptic to draw meaningful explanations

[@96dugu41]

@@octville my ass, all kinds of interview should come with basic respect. She can be not believing in other culture. but basic respect should be in place as people will get very offended. thats why so many violent and hatred happen in the usa/europe across different religious

[@octville]

@@96dugu41 that’s just your view. I will respect it if you respect mine

[@waffleisnice]

Im sorry to say but Wendy's faces really showing her discomfort and its no wonder the conversation got too intense. Everyone have their own religion and beliefs but when doing this kind of interview we're learning about others beliefs and practices, the interviewer should suppress their judgmental nature and listen to tge stories

[@adminadmin3649]

It's a gd job by the host matched with an equal interviewee Compared to the Zula host with Ling and others, I switched off the Zula host halfway.

[@cnachopchopnewsagency]

Agree. Thats why i dont like this Wendy black christian to be on our local series. She brings her "American conservative" worldviews. She did not have the neutral mindset and asian touch sensitivity while doing this kind of interview. Feels like she try to evangelise us and babaji lol Even our Singaporean Christians will have better sensitivity and finer approach in doing this kind of interview. Next time, just get our local presenter only la

[@nolabae]

​@@cnachopchopnewsagency it's sad that your type of bothered that she's black so in your world she doesn't belong. I hope your world keeps being taken over by more.

[@fellietan7161]

Kudos to OGS for shedding light on this topic. I have to say that I did not enjoy Wendy’s way of interviewing in this episode. She was obviously the wrong choice. A good interviewer would suspend his/her judgment/ own religious beliefs and really go in with a neutral perspective. You guys went in to his place of business yet her body language, facial expression, choice of words/ questions were filled with discomfort and judgment. Go in and try to understand one’s personhood instead of questioning this and that. I hope that Wendy will do a better job in the next episode. Even if you are a Christian, you can certainly respect someone else’s beliefs or even occupation. Well done to Babaji for accepting the interview. I thought that he is rather eloquent and answered the questions really well.

[@rajblack2055]

@fellietan9161. She is young girl. Not much experience. Don't be so hard on her. Just chill

[@fellietan7161]

Juxtaposing this interview to the other Hidden Hustle episode where Wen Qi interviewed the Chinese Medium - Wen Qi went in with an open mind and it allowed the Chinese Medium to open up and share more. It was also similarly a sensitive subject given its occult nature as well. IMHO, that was how this interview should be similarly handled. OGS staff should be more open and receptive to constructive feedback from its viewers in order to improve.

[@idconfirm]

Second this comment. As a Christian growing up, I can sense and understand Wendy's discomfort in this episode. Like other comments have mentioned, it might be helpful to come in with a more open mind and understand from a neutral perspective. I hope that this does not come across as criticism or comparison but Hiroko from Asian Boss comes to mind when i'm trying to think of reporters who have dealt with sensitive / controversial topics in a respectful and light-hearted manner.

[@edsel6988]

​@@rajblack2055if providing input in a civilised and objective manner is considered being 'hard', as what the op did, then there is no room for growth for this society anymore.

[@rajblack2055]

@@edsel6988 ok lah you win. Don't wanna argue

[@JackL-lh4qx]

Did not get the same treatment when I walked into a church for an interview and challenged everything on the bible

[@---js3wz]

Yeah, unfortunate that not all religions are open-minded

[@beethanyy]

Babaji articulated so well and was extremely calm even though Wendy was subconsciously trying to challenge his beliefs. No fault of hers, it must have also been difficult for her to host the interview with her own beliefs. Like many of the comments, I also feel like it might have been better to get someone completely neutral for such interviews. With that said, the defensive nature of the questions definitely provoked some good answers, and I believe with more exposure, Wendy would be able to set aside these differences for future interviews while getting insightful answers. looking forward to seeing her improvement!

[@P53eud0nym05]

A mature presenter would know how to remain respectful & present things neutrally 🙄

[@beethanyy]

@@P53eud0nym05 hahaha indeed, which is why i mentioned tht she probably needs more exposure and that I look forward to seeing improvements xD. With anything, they’ll get better with experience

[@Musafir18s]

Babaji was awesome. 🙏🏻

[@shandani7215]

I thought it was good for Wendy to have been herself and asked the questions she did. It shows how innocent she is, and that is what I like about her and this interview. Many people will have felt the same as her and would have wanted such questions asked. She did a perfect job. Just being herself like a child would-wearing her heart on her sleeve. Babaji is a professional, and he has experienced rejection and abuse to the extent that he has become very wise, and his responses show true maturity. I do feel sad that he wants to make the world a better place but ends up all by himself. Even his 'customers' don't visit him and hang out with him.

[@DeoanandGeer]

Namaskar .What is babaji name ? Are there other videos with him on the internet ?

[@relaxedguru89]

The interviewer mentioned that at one point the interview was becoming tense. And I wonder if she realised that her body language and expression was obviously giving off disdain and uncomfortableness for what he was saying. Who wouldn't be defensive over that lol. She was the wrong person to ask to do this, being a Christian. As another commenter pointed out, she obviously looked uncomfortable. And I really dislike that her initial approach was to try and question him, instead of simply trying to understand where he was coming from. She did at least pivot to this later in the video. To be clear, there's nothing wrong with not believing Babaji or his practices. We each have our own beliefs (or non belief). But if you're gonna step into another person's world, at least step in with an open heart and mind so you can understand where they're coming from.

[@adminadmin3649]

I think the host worked well for me

[@wendyshoowaiching4161]

Black magic do exist. The priest is using black magic to do good helping others who are facing problems. Understanding. People shouldn't doubt his ability. He may learn this from great master. A lot of people don't believe it. They are not thinking at his level of understanding. Don't judge. But you can believe my words. I am a Buddhist cultivator for more than 35 years. I am curious and more hardworking than any Buddhist cultivator out there learning buddhism. I do not see him wasting his time pursuing as hard learning the trait.

[@Supernoodlezs]

I completely agree with this. OGS had always had left a good impression on me, till I saw this video that was conducted so poorly due to the host. In fact, I felt Babaji had so much insightful views and perspective to share, but they were reciprocated so negatively by the host. What a shame

[@somethingisbaking2401]

Not sure what you mean by her not being able to conduct this interview because she is a Christian. It has nothing to do with her faith but rather how she conducts herself as a professional interviewer.

[@cnachopchopnewsagency]

Agree. Thats why i dont like this Wendy black christian to be on our local series. She brings her "American conservative" worldviews. She did not have the neutral mindset and asian touch sensitivity while doing this kind of interview. Feels like she try to evangelise us and babaji lol Even our Singaporean Christians will have better sensitivity and finer approach in doing this kind of interview. Next time, just get our local presenter only la

[@thi1969]

Babaji spoke with an impressive articulation. Awesome vocabulary usage. some words I needed to Google 😅

[@720dpi]

the host sounds lowkey judgy and condescending throughout the video, with the subtle promotion of christianity… i can’t believe this man really entertained her… there are defintely questions that could be rephrased and the fact that she ended the video with “i was ready to challenge , ready to fight him” like huh ?? u walked into this man’s business to challenge his beliefs and his livelihood? feels like her mindset was not right

[@adminadmin3649]

She didn't. If she did, it won't be like that from her

[@yogitraderz7917]

U sound like a racist cunt ..” R u a cheap-by- nese !

[@wes3419]

This man entertained her because the Lord Jesus Christ was with her, with God no one is against you and I hope Jesus Christ delivers you from all demons and u come to Christ before it’s too late.

[@rgseven6557]

@@wes3419 lolll crazy religious nut😅

[@adminadmin3649]

@@wes3419 He entertained her because he is not bad.

[@MightyPooPSTEAM]

Im glad that he was honest and didnt insist that he was doing things for the greater good. He understands and admits that it is a job and the path/means he has chosen is definitely not all that righteous. Also he is surprisingly articulate. Quality interview. Keep it up.

[@mtktkt3773]

Babaji is very well-spoken and wise and thank you for guiding us into your world and showing us how it works and what you believe in, loved to hear it. Very interesting episode!

[@shahvei]

Listening to the way Babaji answer’s question you can he is a nice lovely person.

[@kenogihebe]

Wow he uses such advanced vocabulary... Not what I'd have expected from an occult specialist! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@urj210478]

This guy would do extremely well in the legal profession. Speaks very well and is very articulate and precise.

[@Papiliodani]

​@jessicaras4540 WTF does that nonsense have to do with the guy being eloquent?? 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@SohWanWeithehieno]

I really enjoyed this interview! Initially I was a little scared watching it, but the occult guy was really wise and I could see his pov and passion. It was slightly painful watching Wendy interview Babaji as she was so resistant (yet it's common of quite a few Christians I guess), but I applaud her for finishing the assignment. Thank you for covering this!

[@ainnaabbasi5763]

Bad people can do good things, and good people can do bad things, that's what I felt while watching this. He is a good man and when he said 'who is gonna invite me to a wedding' his expressions were too sad.

[@amuko454]

blah blah blah@jessicaras4540

[@chiechieishere]

At first, I was scared to even watch but eventually I realized how well this man articulated and was drawn to the subject.

[@sincerelynabilah]

petition for another episode with Babaji!!!

[@tayjinghui6944]

this was so cool! really loved babaji's thoughts and his view on idealism, what an interesting guy!!

[@user-pf8gk8oj8i]

Thank you both Wendy and Babaji for doing this interview and sharing with us Babaja's work as well as his spiritual lifestyle. Personally, I think Wendy was relatively calm and open-minded about this subject, even though she did admitted that she felt the urge to debate more on their personal beliefs. It is so easy to comment and judge someone for looking "uncomfortable", while discarding the fact that most of us wouldn't have done better if we were put in her place, witnessing the practice of Dark Magic and Rituals, while having to remain calm when our belief systems are challenged. Again, thank you so much for the quality contents

[@KeriannChua]

Amazing coverage of a hidden hustle! Babaji is really eloquent with his words!

[@Charellery]

This episode was intriguing. Thank you OGS & Wendy for taking on such a challenging topic. It was very interesting to see the raw faith and belief on both parties being portrayed and I thought that’s what made this episode authentic. I like that at the end, different belief or whatnot, it was the human connection that made the difference and broke down the walls. Kudos to the team for the courage in taking on this interview and showing this hidden hustle. Looking forward to more episodes!

[@MoinMoin-lj3hq]

This video edit so good, very informative and very catch the eyes :) Can't wait to see more like this!

[@theJasonAmon]

He is enlightened. A kind man who's willing to use darkness for light. "The lips of wisdom is closed, except to the ears of understanding."

[@michlletn]

Babaji - its very nice to meet you and see your work behind the scenes. You genuinely seem like such a cool dude to hang out with and i hope you continue doing what you do!! Cheering for ya 😊😊

[@mtpei3006]

Interesting interview. If this was meant to be a neutral exploration into Babaji's work then I think the sound effects used didn't quite work. It encouraged a certain way of interpreting the interview. It would have been better to have left it just as a recording of the interview sans the "horror movie" sound cues.

[@archieteo]

Loved it. I’m an open minded atheist who personally do not believe in the supernatural yet hugely fascinated by the subject. Great coverage and insight from a local angle. Enjoyed it very much. Thanks!

[@bharathdeva9407]

I m a hindu myself but i dun believe in rituals or supernatural stuffs myself .

[@PsychicZya]

This was great! I watched the other episode with him and I love how Wendy delved deeply into his own humanity and how she herself was able to shift even though she came in with one POV that softened over time. As a psychic medium who works in this space - it does get lonely- most people come in to use and abuse and discard. I currently am waiting for my new tribe to join me.

[@soshigirlsforever]

I think Wendy did such a good job interviewing and being part of this episode. It was honestly probably not easy for her but I think she was rather open-minded and gave interesting perspectives especially to something that is not very known in SG.

[@SchismSphinx]

So I don't really believe in these things, but when he said that the point is to have people reexamine their own relationships - I can see why it might be useful. Nice ep, and looking forward to more Hidden Hustles!

[@JAYJAY-ch4ik]

I once used to be like you don’t believe. I took a walk and climb into old Changi hospital before it was fenced up so high and a warning to not trespass, basically they exist. If you today go there at the gate and say nah no ghost all fake then you proceed to take photos of roof, window, the gate pretty sure you will see photo corrupted, unable to focus to even the gate even thought it’s well lit and also green or red orbs with faces.

[@wendyshoowaiching4161]

These thing black magic exist, can send harm to the people they recite. Don't play with black magic. Stay away. As long it's for good, the karmic is accumulated as purity. I am associate with ancestors through practicing buddhism and cultivation. It's to say this priest is doing good service for the public. May God protect him. Accumulate purity and practice goodness.

[@dharma3689]

I met Babaji through the interest of this episode and had a short conversation with him. Throught that conversation, I would agree on his idealistic point of view and his openess to share some sharable insights in his work. I brought back home a certain sense of wonder and awe towards the vast universe. Would definitely come back again when I recieve a blockage from my path. This time, would definitely recommend others to contact him before hand and not call him as he may be in the middle of a ritual. Thanks OGS and PPOS

[@b_jons2319]

I want his number

[@revealthetruth78]

Can i get the numbr

[@kellee6413]

I tot it was good in showcasing how rigid Christianity is, how unforgiving it is to other beliefs and culture. It’s not Wendy’s fault, she’s not the only one that behaves like that

[@johnseng9636]

this was very interesting thank

[@py4998]

I read the comments first before watching the video so I expected Wendy to be full on attacking Babaji but after watching it; while Wendy had reservations and doubts, the interview was conducted with curiosity and respect (though idk what else was said pre-editing as she said there was tension in the air). I think the questions allowed viewers and maybe even Babaji himself to inspect further on why he does what he does and his reasoning behind his choices. I definitely felt sad for him when he said he had no friends outside of work. I guess I can agree that maybe in the future interviewers shouldn’t go with the mindset of “fighting” their interviewees, nonetheless the interview came out really well and showed the human side of things! Keep it up!

[@yinbaoteo5005]

Wow this man is so humble!!! Universe bless him! 🥰

[@clarciel]

missed potential for this to be a much more informative interview if you had picked a more suitable interviewer perhaps. maybe the idea was to highlight that tensions do exist but it would better if the viewer was given the freedom to make their own judgment based on a more impartial interview. watching this it did feel like the interviewee was being antagonized and he was already incredibly open minded and patience with his responses

[@nagend1917]

Hi Wendy, my question is after witnessing the process, were you in anyway disturbed, maybe on the way heading back home, during your sleep or anytime after that?

[@rarityandSElover]

Hi OGS, hope that the team doesn't feel too disheartened and I understand that the producer & host were trying out a different format/angle which is distinctly different from the previous videos (the closest hidden hustle I can think of is the spirit medium episode, which the comments praise particularly for being open minded and empathetic). Hope to leave some constructive criticism as I'm a longtime fan of OGS :) Unfortunately the angle of the interview of wanting to challenge beliefs and bring out certain viewpoints wasn't handled in a delicate way, as the interviewer brought in her own misunderstandings into the shoot. Maybe instead of asking in a personal way right off the bat, she could've asked open ended questions like: "What are some of the most misunderstood parts of your line of work?" and let the interviewee answer for himself. Moreover, when asking more sensitive questions or before challenging, it is important to build rapport with the interviewee first (maybe some slight banter), and even if you don't agree, let the conversation flow naturally by following up his questions. (However, I understand that maybe that can't be done, if not the video would've been too long.) A very good example of an interview with someone absolutely irredeemable (which means the interviewer would definitely have tension and conflict with the interviewee) would be the Soft White Underbelly interview with James, a r*pist. Build rapport first, and catching portions in his answer that you don't agree with and ask questions for them to explain themselves/perspective. However, ultimately I don't really think this format really aligns with what the series is mainly about, which is clearing misunderstandings/destigmatising certain career choices. It would be like to ask a vegan to interview the chicken processor and ask if what they're doing is right/wrong, or if it's disgusting to touch raw meat. A bit of an apple to orange comparison but I hope you get what I mean. Moreover, I think the disgruntled comments might be because, besides viewers who may be new to this world, there might be others who this video appeals to as they might already be interested/a part of it and want to see more. By bringing this angle to the interview, the viewers who are interested in this may feel secondhand judgement or feel like as she's asking from a moral high ground, as they are watching more from the interviewee's perspective. Ultimately, this format does work, but maybe not in a series meant to clear up misunderstandings about certain jobs but maybe more for investigative journalism-type videos. Something more like what Rice media would do. Kudos to the team for trying something new, but I felt that more thought and care could've been put in to the ideation process beforehand.

[@verneser]

On the flip side, i’d suggest Wendy go into an exorcism rituals with the Catholic Church as well. Praise the Lord Wendy and the team is given the chance to go on this wonderful journey, to learn and practise Grace. ❤

[@user-sr1qv4gj9j]

ITS SO GOOD

[@orangespyglass]

this was a tricky topic to talk about and i really enjoyed the honest point of views and interviews! we seldom get to take a look at professions like this so it's a fresh take on what goes on in SG on a day to day basis. personally i think the raw and real exchange of viewpoints and personal beliefs makes this whole episode more relatable... i appreciate that the interviewer actl has a strong stand rather than just asking safe questions and not stepping on any toes

[@aridiraffe9610]

Keep up the good work.. Really enjoy this.. Cant wait for the next episode !!

[@1dylanflowang]

these has always been interesting to me as an academic, could be a topic for honours thesis or post grad research

[@katetang1372]

For me it’s a great interview.. fear doubt intrigue n knowledge

[@nelsonicies4800]

I don't get why need to edit it like a horror movie

[@davidchang7500]

When you believe, there is. When you don't, there isn't. But when you finally die, the truth of the is & isn't will be revealed.

[@sjsharma3297]

I thought the interview, thanks to the piercing yet open-ended basic questions, opened the path for very insightful answers. I couldn't see any jarringly awkward predispositions of the interviewer, as what some have pointed here. Perhaps, the inherent scepticism was necessary to ask those pointed questions. I'm glad the interviewee was articulate and could contextualise his views succinctly for all of us to understand his world and craft better. 9/10. If only it had been longer.

[@ZERO_0594]

This ppractitioner lifestyle and ideology is something relatable to me. Kudos 👍

[@b0tak707]

Super good content! Well done guys! Definitely an eye opener for me.

[@evfdurs]

This interviewer isn't ideal at all for this topic. If she wasnt interested in hearing another perspective as a religious person, then she can't seperate her 'bias' from the topic she inherently doesn’t agree with, which makes this awkward to watch. I feel bad for babaji 😅 Example: I had a friend who couldn’t understand me for not wanting to be religious, but she had to think more about it on an individual level if she wanted to remain being my friend. She ended up realising just bc i wasn't religious didnt mean we couldnt connect. People are worth more than your bias against them. With maturity and age, you learn to connect better with others whether you 100% agree with their lifestyle, views, beliefs, etc. Not bashing, just a word of advice from someone older.

[@Iac12m]

Wendy is such a turn off and reasons why people hate Christianity. So much about Grace and mercy when usually these people are the most judgy to differences.

[@puddingsawgl]

I totally agree. I'm an ex-Christian myself. One of the most judgmental religion. As long as you are not a Christian, they judge you. Lol

[@cnachopchopnewsagency]

Agree. Thats why i dont like this Wendy black christian to be on our local series. She brings her "American conservative" worldviews. She did not have the neutral mindset and asian touch sensitivity while doing this kind of interview. Feels like she try to evangelise us and babaji lol Even our Singaporean Christians will have better sensitivity and finer approach in doing this kind of interview. Next time, just get our local presenter only la

[@AlisonAlison]

Great Story

[@zenweaver]

Very good interview.Not sure some feel the interview was conducted not in the best way.I think Wendy handled this well.After all, this is something that does not have proof and was approached with the right amount of curiosity or skepticism but was still polite.

[@MrNavarros]

I’ve shouldn’t watch or listen to the whole mantra, now I’m in love with Wendy damn!

[@VickyVicky-lg5kp]

I completely enjoyed having 2 people from different background being able to discuss. Well done Wendy!

[@stefanong1917]

Wow!! Jenglot actually made all the way to Singapore.

[@gu2243]

Just nice on this video 👍

[@jellybeanwithwings]

Loved this episode. Great stuff.

[@LeeMcKing]

On her question of whether its a cheat code, it might be. However, if we look at life itself, the moment you are born in a wealthy family where it is so easy to get what you want, compared to another person being born in a low income family where you need to work a lot to earn enough money to have what you want - being born in a wealthy family is a cheat already :P and there could be various other "cheat codes" around. For example, I'm a hypnotist and I can hypnotize myself to rewire how my mind functions to perform some "cheats" too. Ultimately i think, if the intention is good and the end result is an eventual improvement for the people affected, then ethically it is sound.

[@SG19907]

It is amazing that you have acknowledged the existence of "cheat codes". I personally feel that some religions (the mind-body-spirit based ones) that advocate for personal accountability towards reaching the higher consciousness and have openly shared some secrets (cheatcodes) that will guide them (eliminating karmic blockages) towards the One Source (e.g. Yoga, meditation, mantras, gem stone rings, rituals etc). These religions / spiritual paths emphasis that Humanity is already one with the Most High and have the capacity to attain liberation (moksha, nirvana) through their own efforts and by overcoming the temporary amnesia of separation. Whereas other religions (the ones that believe humanity is inherently sinful) rely on herding their followers with rules and restrictions that limit them to accepting that they are sinful and need to comply to certain obligations so that they are ascertained eternal reward. The first group of religions/spiritual paths do believe that everyone (including the ones in the 2nd group) will ultimately reach their Truth, no matter how long they take (and how many lifetimes).

[@kevinmasilung]

i really felt that babaji, about the lonely in the occupation. i ajso had the curiosity of the veiled things in life too. i hope i won't be to late to learn of the party.

[@simbeekuan4056]

I think perhaps a better person to interview would be a free thinker instead of someone who strongly believes in their own faith. I mean it's entirely up to the person who seek such spiritual help whether to believe if such rituals actually work for them. But it's such an eye-opener to know that there is actually such a person who does this for a living

[@P53eud0nym05]

Christians aren’t exactly known for their religious tolerance what with the attempts to “save others” and convert them.

[@laypengong2882]

Was a interesting content/angle! Thought that Wendy did a good job interviewing Babaji. The ‘opposing view’ from Wendy allowed Babaji to share deeper about what he believed. Was a good watch!

[@beezlebub9]

10:25 made me smile actually. Kinda cute.

[@maggiechang9956]

Babaji is such a kind man

[@SubZero-qi9hk]

In the 1980's Adrian Lim and his 02 Holy Wives murdered 02 Children in his house at T.Payoh Lorong 7. Still haunting the people in that Era.

[@micahiah2]

I think it is very well done. The effort to understand another culture, person and beliefs. And the willingness of the guy to share about his work and beliefs even though we might not agreed. We are all on the path of searching what is the ultimate truth. It is very good food for thought for everyone. Was conducted with respect with each other. Well done!

[@OGS.Official]

Hi everyone, this is Pei Fang, the producer for this episode of Hidden Hustles. I have read the comments that everyone left in the comment section and I appreciate them. While I understand that there needs to be open-mindedness when we handle topics of sensitive nature, I would also like to share the thought process on how this episode was produced. As mentioned in the episode, Wendy comes from a Christian background and there will inevitably be tension and conflict since her faith is something very personal to her. We discussed about the perspectives she should take entering the space of the occult and eventually decided that it was for the best if she could bring forth the scepticism from a religious point of view. The idea is to exemplify that despite the differences in our belief systems, and discomfort that we may face as we attempt to address such issues, it is still possible to relate to and empathise with people with opposing views - as what Wendy has mentioned in her reflection. As the saying goes “art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfort”, the journey to “enlightenment” is never an easy or straightforward one. It would be idealistic to assume that everyone can be open-minded immediately without being put in some sort of uncomfortable situations where intense conversations or debates are held. I produced this episode not to put down either perspective. This discussion has not been easy for both Wendy and Babaji and I appreciate that they are open enough to show their vulnerable moments on screen. There is no right or wrong in this matter and I hope that we can be more accommodating and sensitive when it comes to leaving comments about the perspectives they bring to the discussion. - Pei Fang, producer

[@msi7188]

Pei Fang. Perhaps, you should have consulted a proper expert researcher or sociologist on how to conduct an interview for sensitive topics. I have placed my comment below to explain in lay man terms (not sure if you'd bother to read it). The interviewer was not even holistic in her approach to begin with. She already started off by being religiocentric, judgemental, and critical on anything non-Christian. It even shows in her body language and facial expressions. There is absolutely a right and wrong way to approach sensitive topics like occult and black magic. Yes, you can have the interview in a casual conversation format but don't be so rude and indifferent to the point where the interviewee is already uncomfortable.

[@DukeShanks]

You guys chould have chosen someone who is more open-minded to be the interviewer, thus bringing in more value-added questions. Her questions and body langauge shows that she knows too little and lacks in wisdom to be the one asking sensible questions. Having a personal relationship with god is one thing, but having an open-mind for the sake of hunger in knowledge and wisdom is another thing.

[@melvinderkanth1020]

You should have brought in a more mature interviewer not some kid who's hardly lived life.

[@user-ux5lz5ek5s]

I hope the interviewer is not disheartened by some of the comments here. In my opinion, she did a fairly good interview. The assumption that interviewers can detach themselves from their value systems when conducting an interview is not being open-minded. It is reasonable to probe a matter from one's viewpoint and be critical and skeptical to tease out other perspectives.

[@Supernoodlezs]

Pei Fang, if a good bulk of the comments are criticising the same point, then I think something is truly amiss. Intending the video to be portrayed in a certain way, and how it is finally executed and perceived by the viewers are two different things - I think we can agree that the latter is definitely more crucial. This topic dwells on religion and all the more it should be curated more cautiously. Did no one on OGS team whom reviewed the footage before publishing it have any similar comments as the viewers? Puzzling.

[@Charmaine296]

Do more on this episode love this type of content ❤❤❤

[@leongyanshan855]

I truly respect Wendy’s courage and bravery to host this episode despite the conflict of her beliefs.NGL, this is not easy for her compared to someone else.

[@somethingisbaking2401]

Courage and bravery? This is her job

[@---js3wz]

Nah, she was kinda condescending to me, and like what the reply says, it’s her job to do it. Which means she had to. I feel like someone who identifies as agnostic should have interviewed instead as they would be more open minded. Someone who is good at interviewing would temporarily suspend their religious worldviews so as to remain open minded. Top comment of this video actually mentions this and I agree. But everybody’s entitled to their own opinions.

[@jarreddo]

So good! And so sensitively handled. The hallmark of an OGS content. Looking forward to more! ❤

[@xinng4738]

the edits of lights of flashes effects r making me having headaches >

[@theshushubird]

"Wendy: I would say humans are inherently selfish in nature" shows that Wendy is inherently selfish in nature, especially when she calls out people who do not experientially feel/think that viewpoint as "idealistic". Wolverine is not technically, or even often associated to as, a werewolf. Was surprised that the producer did not edited out "Sad. Okay." (because she was unironically the sad one in that context) but doing so also kept the video authentic and kudos to that

[@Vijaylatika]

Where is his shop located pls?

[@sunyanik3577]

I look forward to watch OGS productions on heart-warming and enlightening contents involving people who are able to evoke respect, inspiration, admiration. Dear Wendy: i hope u r not discouraged by the negative comments. Keep walking in the Light and Truth 😃

[@deathdragonslayer1]

OGS, whilst its great that you shed some light on this topic on the occult, it probably would have been a better choice to get a non-religious interviewer asking the questions. Wendy has a strong christian faith and this topic goes against everything that is being preached in christianity. If the interviewer isnt open minded, why even bother? Who is to say that her faith is right and his is wrong?

[@JDT01976]

Thank you for sharing this very interesting video! Babaji seems to be a very intelligent and articulate guy however I don't believe that his knowledge of the occult was all through self-learning - he must have had learned some or a lot of it from someone with lots of experience in occult practices.

[@TSNicole]

Easily one of my favourite videos so far. Wendy's a wonderful host and I also enjoyed the insightful sharing from Babaji! and Can't wait to see what else this new season brings :)

[@foowayne2947]

The term 'Black magic' mostly as it is referred to is concentrated on the black or unholy side of an activity. And for those approach it would normally up to something evil such as taking revenge on his or her enemy or a short cut to gain certain kind of profit may it be materially or physically. For those who are trully religious and ethical ones will normally go to the more prestigious and formal religious gurus or masters.

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[@patriciajohn2057]

Do you really want help to resolve all your problem to earn money and get a dream job as well to win lotto / properties & increase in business , and restoration of relationships or remove of black magic / court case .

[@mad_in_2020]

Very interesting episode, and it was handled in a sensitive way.

[@limfong7625]

he is the best english speaking supernatural guy i've seen online

[@nazrojean7128]

wow...just a few weeks back i watched another creator making content on this occult shop(i hv since contacted the shop),n u made a more in-depth one...Wendy was amazing,she asked all the Qs which was going thru my mind...or was this a coincidence too?babaji seems genuine with helping good people in trouble..kudos to that!n yes,i too hv the doubt whereby,when a medium can remove,they can ALWAYS attach something to the client or send also,to keep biz continuity!my last such instance was with an indian medium from Kerala ,who did his share of sucking money n all kinds of mystical nonsense!coz,once u go to them,u will be hooked!Not sure if would simply solve the issue n off u go,we're all done,adios!Babaji n i hv some fascination with Werewolves too,esp the movie "American Werewolf in London"...But,well crafted content!cheers!!

[@gef2]

Babaji is cool AF man

[@williambrown9417]

I would be this man’s best friend to the end. I feel you

[@bladewing9107]

I personally think that a free thinker should be sent for this interview.

[@carolyps]

Keep up the great job Wendy! This is great!!! ❤

[@deathbykarn]

Good job OGS. must not have been easy on either party. These dialogues are important even though they can be challenging. They share human experience that we can all take something from. I see the host coming under fire in the comments but actually thought the host did well.. she exercised patience and noted commonalities. We’re all on our individual journeys. We shouldn’t only expect perfect things. Everything can always be better. It is clear they understood that they come from very different lives.. and for this video to happen took courage and some discomfort. Thank you for sharing.

[@kwekstanley3030]

The master's English is pro than pro

[@mimbotic]

Loved the topic being brought up. This is something innately Asian, but yet super taboo. But I agree with the other commenters. Such a missed opportunity from the host. Fortunately for her, he was openly sharing information that was crucial to his story (and for the audience). I bet he was just retelling stories that others may have asked before. Would love to see another interview with him! But change host please. Thanks!

[@ryanlum323]

how to contact him?

[@maxwong6222]

Camera person and post editing team: kindly refrain from doing too many intentional going out of focus/blurry sequences as it causes optical discomfort more than supernatural effect.

[@leonenarwani7258]

Out of nowhere , growing tension 🤣🤣, I mean I have seen partialility but wtf

[@eunicefong4456]

Wow, another very interesting topics! Personally, I like how Wendy interview's approach. Some people just like her who have the same questions and dare to ask to see the intervee's reaction instead of playing safe interview. She also give her own thought of it which is sincerely from her rather than scripted. So, well done!

[@miop8293]

Babaji is a lone ranger on a mission healing and helping those that are lost, sad he is not an X-men fan though lol😁

[@asianricecooker123]

damn babaji is one wise man

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[@xJ9pQw2sR5]

You know this kind of stuff (the non dirty black kind) is like Chinese medicine or herbs, it heals an holistic energy issue so the problem can resolve itself.

[@ritchierich2793]

Should bring back jon chua.. he actually had a bro connection when the first they meet each other..

[@Jo_channel88]

As a believer of the occult and fortune reading myself too long a story to put here why but I’ve got critical qns too why does the this person say he has no personal friends who or where is his master? How does one help with attracting the opposite sex etc when one very lonely one self? It’s something I cannot understand