[Outdated] Impending Doom: how to build around the Spell Cascade nerfs in Path of Exile patch 3.23

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Surgeon General

Surgeon General

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@camdacop
@camdacop Жыл бұрын
I never used vixen's and just went Inquisitor for battlemage and 75% more cast speed with generic reduced duration from rings, amulets, and the tree. This also allows for cooldown scaling to increase DPS as the 3 charges at .15s recharge get expended very quickly. Impending doom 370 effectiveness scales any added lightning very effectively. This also allows for reduced duration shenanigans with things like
@Surgeon_General
@Surgeon_General Жыл бұрын
Battlemage for cast speed is a great idea
@ShoveLobster
@ShoveLobster Жыл бұрын
This sounds absolutely sick. Creative use of BM. Any chance you could share a past PoB?
@Gailon1000
@Gailon1000 Жыл бұрын
Would also be interested in a pob!
@say1074
@say1074 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a pob too :3
@PhucNguyen-ey3cl
@PhucNguyen-ey3cl Жыл бұрын
can u share pob pls
@onerimeuse
@onerimeuse Жыл бұрын
I love your format and cadence. It makes the information incredibly digestible and understandable. Thank you for your excellent videos.
@shadow123763
@shadow123763 Жыл бұрын
Great video, very detailed explanation of mechanics for build makers!
@chrisw2995
@chrisw2995 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your video, I loved playing Impending Doom in 3.22, it was by far my best build. Sadly, it would appear that the gem changes now also remove this alternate method, at least until we see what will actually be available on alternate versions of Impending Doom Support. Here is hoping that GGG decided to support this build by including viability somewhere in the alternate versions of Impending Doom Support and/or Spell Cascade. I hope you will update your video once this information becomes available. I wish more video game videos were this well organized and information dense!
@knicklichtjedi
@knicklichtjedi Жыл бұрын
I will miss Impending Doom so much! It has been my favorite build to transition to from my league starter ever since it popped up :c
@SHertzog-e6d
@SHertzog-e6d 7 ай бұрын
Oh man....I've been studying Impending Doom Occultist builds and tech....am I to believe now that, as of now, 3.24, it is not worth building around?
@knicklichtjedi
@knicklichtjedi 7 ай бұрын
@@SHertzog-e6d I actually can't 100% tell you since I haven't played it properly yet. Additionally, the -30% MS from Ralakesh hurts Occultist quite a bit, unless you have Mageblood gear. The AoE nerfs are also really, really noticeable - I get maybe 2-3 overlaps with Woke Cascade. Just did a random Twisted I had lying around and... my TotA character did not feel good at all. I know that some people are playing Archmage Impending Doom as I think Ignite, but that does not really appeal to me. Personally, I would rather play a Blade Blast of Unloading again instead of ID. Similar style of build, but actually feels good to play.
@elweondeslayer
@elweondeslayer Жыл бұрын
I think the mod "chaos skill duration" from kulemak briks impending doom if used with despair
@Surgeon_General
@Surgeon_General Жыл бұрын
Yes, this is true; most people want to apply ID with Temp Chains though because of the Balance of Terror cooldown recovery.
@TheMilmil83
@TheMilmil83 11 ай бұрын
my crit doom occulist in standard works perfectly fine btw With huge aoe still procs at least 2 times confirmed
@shawn.hansen
@shawn.hansen Жыл бұрын
A while back I built a duration-based Doom blaster that used Nightgrip instead of Vixen's (Anomalous, Kulemak, a Timeclasp, etc). Felbog Fang is enabled building around expiration, a rare use case for that amulet I suggest considering. Probably plenty viable without cascade. Pathfinder's blue flask bonus was increased since I played: blue iron flask size being a key part of generating enough ward to pour flat chaos into ID's high damage effectiveness.
@Feracitus
@Feracitus Жыл бұрын
would that also apply to occultist? i love my pop pops =)
@shawn.hansen
@shawn.hansen 11 ай бұрын
It might work, but getting a lot of iron flask effect / uptime was important to boost the ward numbers which might be tricky on any other class. Maybe get pops on a Charm? :)
@Billy4321able
@Billy4321able Жыл бұрын
There's a pretty easy way of making this work that doesn't require any special or expensive unique items. Fated End. I've made a very cheap PoB for it that could be thrown together quite easily. The only major hurdle I'm running into is the league start scenario. I thought this could save the build from being dead as a league start build, but Fated End doesn't appear on the market in any significant quantity until after the first week. Not any roll will do either. Despite the item being common it's only found in Heist, and you have to get a very low roll (~180) for it to work. Feels like it's so close to being league start viable, but just barely missed the mark. A shame really. Edit: It's even worse when you consider that triggering doomblast was never even the issue. The main issue was hitting the trigger breakpoints. Without the staggered casts of spell cascade this will be functionally impossible. It would be similar to trying to league-start a cast on crit build. Possible, but not advisable. I suspect we will still see high investment versions of the build have some success but the low investment version of the build has effectively been deleted from the game. Perhaps it was too strong for the investment. I might not agree with it, but GGG seems to think so.
@rein7046
@rein7046 Жыл бұрын
Self farming the ring is very easy. I usually see 5 or more of them per day running enchanted armaments wings.
@knicklichtjedi
@knicklichtjedi Жыл бұрын
Fated End: The idea is to stack a ton of curse effect so that the curse expires really fast? If so, how hard is it to reach 170-210% curse effect?
@zet85
@zet85 7 ай бұрын
Share pob, pls
@Cheddariz
@Cheddariz Жыл бұрын
Another banger of a video. Great work is being done on this channel
@Koroistro
@Koroistro Жыл бұрын
Well rolled Timeclasp rings can be a substitute for using the Cane of kulemac if the player wants to prioritize defenses (thinking about full taken as ele conversion pathfinders), it also gives good source of cast speed and recoup. It still requires investment in the reduced duration node, outside of using a perfectly rolled Warped Timepiece aswell, which is excessive gear pressure.
@Tirinir
@Tirinir Жыл бұрын
Spell cascade not only stopped enabling the overlap on target but has weird gaps in coverage. You probably will not want to play with spell cascade support in the main link anymore so it will not be doubling your single target proc rate. But there are other options. You can remove curse by using curse on hit, for example on Herald of Thunder or BV. Of course you are going to have weaker and fewer curses then, so this is levelling only. If you want more curses use Vixen's with spell cascade, the overlap with the second, delayed, cast from Vixen's happen reliable without need for repeated casts due to larger AoE of the curse without cascade. And the endgame version as you noted here would use Cane of Kulemak and alt quality 21/23 Impending Doom, as well as perfectly rolled Warped Timepiece. 15% MS 25% cast speed and some debuff protection are quite good stats, especially with +1 not affecting the level of Impending Doom. Another endgame version would use Shako.
@YoutubeStyleChannel
@YoutubeStyleChannel Жыл бұрын
You can get additional reduced skill effect duration from Timeclasp ring and Warped Timepiece necklace. I did some testing on my critical doom blast power charge stacker. Dialla's with a 20/20 Anomalous Impending doom brought my curse duration to 0.44 seconds. With a Magebane impossible escape I can get an extra -5% duration, leaving my curses with no duration. This allows doom blast to trigger on each cast, and with awakened spell cascade, you still have the same clear during maps. I did lose a lot of tooltip damage per hit. From 1.1mil to 450k, but that's still more than enough for general mapping, which is what the build does best. Long story short, if you enjoy the build, you can still play it. But it's not a viable league starter due to anomalous impending doom and Diallas. As a second toon, it's not great either, the survivability and speed just isn't as great as a lot of other builds. Sad that my favorite build is getting 'fixed'
@Tirinir
@Tirinir Жыл бұрын
Maybe just use Vixen's with Spell Cascade?
@Crabunderscore
@Crabunderscore Жыл бұрын
I would not play ID on dialla's, the main point of the build was that while it was requiring you to stand still and rightclick to death you could wear the generic loreweave or lightning coil bundle of items which make you extra chonky
@nathan3065
@nathan3065 Жыл бұрын
Great deep dive on the mechanics. Would love more b-roll gameplay footage instead of a power point slide but otherwise awesome work.
@Surgeon_General
@Surgeon_General Жыл бұрын
Fair criticism, thanks for the feedback. I normally have a more math-focused approach which doesn't lend itself to flashy B-roll so might have just goofed the pacing on this one.
@littlekale
@littlekale Жыл бұрын
@@Surgeon_GeneralI think just for people that haven’t seen the interaction in real time at all, even just seeing it once in practice would help give some context/increase people’s interest in the topic if it’s something they might enjoy. I ended up going and watching some gameplay after the video anyway just because I don’t even know what impending doom looks like tbh. Doesn’t have to be much, I’m saying even just a 5 second clip of the full sequence hitting a small pack.
@Billy4321able
@Billy4321able Жыл бұрын
Not sure if it would be worth the editing effort but you could do a side-by-side in-game footage next to the explanation/slide for mechanical showcases.
@jeremypurdy1833
@jeremypurdy1833 10 ай бұрын
Just messaging here to report that the build exists just fine this league. There APPEARS to be a point where the cascades do not stretch outward anymore. My ID crit Occ has 120% aoe total and I'm overlapping the exact same as ever with the build. I have two aoe charms per power charge, 10 charges only so far. But yes, the build is alive.
@HikersRefuge
@HikersRefuge 10 ай бұрын
I thought about how the aoe increase scales would u mind sharing ur pob?
@frankcoley1537
@frankcoley1537 11 ай бұрын
I used Elementalist with this setup and did tons of DMG via ignite with little investment. It was fun as hell too.
@zet85
@zet85 7 ай бұрын
Share you pob?
@michalvodicka5123
@michalvodicka5123 Жыл бұрын
Nice video, but I would add few things. I think you quickly mentioned it. If player had enough area effect, the first and third ring was overlapping in the middle, creating sector we called middle fish eye. Then it was 2 explosions on the first cast and 3 explosions on every other cast. Then spell cascade gem was worth 2,07x damage or "107% more damage". But for a lot of players without area effect, spell cascade is only worth of 38% more damage, because the gem itself does 31% less damage. It is important to mention main problem with vixens. Vixens curses are casted before your casted curse (your six link). To solve this problem, we socket spell cascade into vixens. By that, second cast of the vixens is postponed. Sadly the same thing couldnt be done with spell echo. Spell cascade in the main six link was never needed. It was there because it was convinient for the overlapses. But it could be replaced. Impending doom is always 2 gems combo. You need a curse and support, so you can only add 4 additional supported gems. But all of it default stats are superior. It has fast casting speed, very high base damage, very high added damage efficiency and large area effect. Being said, I think the gem is still good. The good thing is the gem is simple. It is not very scalable, but simply strong without any additional items. This makes it candidate for league starters. There are other ways to instantly blow up impending doom. One is going 1 fewer curse (ring). Second is going for apply curse on hit on (also ring). I think both options are kinda cheap. Spell cascade on two overlaps gives you 2*0,69=1,38x more damage. This can be replaced with different support gem. We can look back into history why impending doom became viable build. First, curses were reworked and do not have "Doom" anymore. Second, bosses are no longer resilient to curses. Third, impending doom was buffed. And fourth, spell cascade was added and combo was discovered with vixens. I think the biggest question here is: "will be vixens still usable with impending doom?".
@Mike-jm4gg
@Mike-jm4gg Жыл бұрын
Is impending doom easy to play for a new player? 3,23 will be the first league for my friend and he whant to play ID.
@H2LiNGeN
@H2LiNGeN Жыл бұрын
Spell Cascade does not support Doom Blast so the Less damage & AoE does not affect it.
@michalvodicka5123
@michalvodicka5123 Жыл бұрын
@@H2LiNGeN thanks, thats a very good point.
@michalvodicka5123
@michalvodicka5123 Жыл бұрын
Gameplay style is easy, one click. But build wise it is one of the most complex builds. I wouldnt recommend it for anyone who doesnt want to deal with POB much.
@SweebyMignonne
@SweebyMignonne Жыл бұрын
with the alt quality change less duration support and window of opportunity with a little bit of quality might be how to make it work. really got us cornered on 3.23 sadness
@Darkxellmc
@Darkxellmc Жыл бұрын
for 0 duration ID using quality, I feel like cane's 15% quality is good but not mandatory. If you fracture the catarina mod on a good base (eclipse scepter, most likely), you can still craft haku's 8% quality prefix. You could end up with a weapon with 16% gem quality, +2 supports, 150% increased damage, 49% increased cast speed, 100% crit chance and 45% crit multi It would cost around 60 divs to craft (so not that cheap), but imo would be very very nice.
@thomasgrimm1664
@thomasgrimm1664 Жыл бұрын
Cursing out Chris in a productive educational manner. I love it! The alt quality effect on Impending Doom only works on the linked curse, right? So I don't shoot myself in the foot by not being able to apply the Vixen curses to debuff dangerous enemies.
@Surgeon_General
@Surgeon_General Жыл бұрын
Correct, only the linked skill
@yubber5966
@yubber5966 Жыл бұрын
will scaling aoe (like power charge stackers) let the areas overlap again or will they just be farther apart?
@Surgeon_General
@Surgeon_General Жыл бұрын
I haven't tested thoroughly, but my understanding is that increased AoE both increases the size of the zones as well as shifting their centers so the change to the overlap is negligible.
@yubber5966
@yubber5966 Жыл бұрын
​@@Surgeon_Generaldang, sad to see that, crit impending doom was the first build i made successfully that could melt bosses
@jackwabbit9784
@jackwabbit9784 Жыл бұрын
Great video on the skill
@NKB_POE
@NKB_POE Жыл бұрын
Yep another league going to end,another moment to say goodbye to my meticulous min max build to the dumpster.
@satibel
@satibel Жыл бұрын
I don't care about this league, so I'll say it, you missed a huge one, you can get 16 % with a catarina item then bench craft with the haku 8%, this is likely to be better than cane. also like week one you could get a 8% for like a divine. there's a lot of ways to craft it to make it decent, and if you wanna get rich you can try to fracture the catarina mod to make an insane staff (though for a mirror tier you might want a bow, for the extra stats of the quiver, though staff is also good because of the staff passives.) my idea for an expensive poison version (do not copy this is just an idea of what is possible): get a catarina level/quality, get 2 prefix, craft a block, al hezmin exalt for poison, then prefix cannot be changed roll for dot multi or poison deal damage faster or a good roll of poison damage, multicraft and craft 8% qual and chaos dot multi. (if you have currency you could use locks to annul the multicraft and exalt something good) for crit, bow is probably the way to go, as you can get crit on both the bow and the quiver
@madokamagika8313
@madokamagika8313 Жыл бұрын
Fated end unique ring
@nicela9431
@nicela9431 Жыл бұрын
Stacking curse effect with fated end also seems like a very viable option for the build
@janne6657
@janne6657 Жыл бұрын
This. I just checked pob and it's actually pretty easy to gain curse effectiveness through-out the tree, some clusters and maybe even another uniques. Technically it's even possible to do some pretty weird stuff with might of the meek jewel and gain some. If you take one step further gem quality to certain curses also seems to give it? The best thing is, it's not a wasted stat to invest in, since it benefits the other curses as well. Only downside for the build is that you now need to run the other curses as auras.
@Billy4321able
@Billy4321able Жыл бұрын
Only defensive curses would need to be ran as an aura as you should be constantly casting anyway. You can even balance it with clever use of sources of specified curse effect. e.g. Temp chains curse effect helmet enchant. This would guarantee a minimum of 1 second duration of all curses except the one used for impending doom. @@janne6657
@朱澤淵
@朱澤淵 Жыл бұрын
What if I want to use the Forbidden Shako helmet to get Lv35 Impending Doom? Is there any way to reduse the duration low enough?
@Surgeon_General
@Surgeon_General Жыл бұрын
2x Timeclasp (20% each, perfect rolls) + Warped Timepiece (20% perfect roll) + Window of Opportunity skill wheel (25%) = 85% reduced duration Less Duration Support (50%) + Duration Mastery (10%) = 60% less duration Temporal chains level 1 base duration is 5 seconds: 5 sec * (1-0.85) * (1-0.6) = 0.3sec It's doable, but it's not very good and will feel slow. Not worth the investment in uniques and support gems IMO
@danielborders7551
@danielborders7551 Жыл бұрын
So that uses cursed ground + awakened spell cascade but does not use Vixen's Entrapment, is not affected by this new change?
@chrisarets2231
@chrisarets2231 Жыл бұрын
I didn't quite understand what the real change on spell cascade was. Is the area that overlaps different in 3.23 ? And does this only affect impending doom or also other builds that use spell cascade ?
@Surgeon_General
@Surgeon_General Жыл бұрын
The change to spell cascade was its interaction with gems that received flat increases to radius with gem level. The most notable example is curses. The “old” spell cascade did not change the center of the zones as the gem level increased so you would get more overlap than intended. The “new” spell cascade fixes this so AoE modifiers both scale the size of the spell cascade zones as well as their relative positions. The overlaps will be noticeably different
@chrisarets2231
@chrisarets2231 Жыл бұрын
@@Surgeon_General Thank you for the clarification! Was maybe thinking of going self-cast reap with spell cascade which also heavily depends on overlap but that doesn't scale it's radius with gem levels so all good :)
@jacobr3228
@jacobr3228 11 ай бұрын
I know that the overlapping is a strong mechanic, but could you not just forgo spell cascade in favor of defenses, gem levels (+1 all chaos wand/amulet) or cast speed to reach an even middleground?
@Surgeon_General
@Surgeon_General 11 ай бұрын
Cast speed is a fine approach; I've played a build with it that uses Spell Echo to cap application at the Doom Blast cooldown rate. You can't use gem levels to scale damage though; gem levels almost always specify "level of skill gems" - Impending Doom is a support, so it does not benefit.
@TheEternalVortex42
@TheEternalVortex42 Жыл бұрын
If you do this then don't you lose the effects of the curses? That's a huge % of your damage/defense
@Surgeon_General
@Surgeon_General Жыл бұрын
You only lose the effectiveness of the curse that is applying Doom Blast. You can still use other curses; the reduced duration only applies to curses linked to Impending Doom.
@Nimroc
@Nimroc Жыл бұрын
Most of the skill duration reduction is for a specific curse gem though, so any additional curses would still be working just fine.
@MathieuPilot
@MathieuPilot Жыл бұрын
​@@Surgeon_GeneralNot true. The self curse cast was always one of the 3 curses remaining. And a big part of defense (or offense depending on the curse you chose)
@romeprince11
@romeprince11 Жыл бұрын
Cascade was not adding single target damage to poison impending doom, tested it with my friend
@maniloucorpuz
@maniloucorpuz Жыл бұрын
what are those multiple curses your casting at chris w. in layman's terms?
@zet85
@zet85 7 ай бұрын
Hello! All this method work in 3.24?
@Bluttraube
@Bluttraube 11 ай бұрын
Well with the removal of alt gems I think impending doom just got gutted
@Saiperia
@Saiperia Жыл бұрын
how does doom blast work if your curse limit is 0? does it trigger then?
@kyou_on
@kyou_on Жыл бұрын
too much investment just to enable it. There's a reason why spell cascade variation is so much more popular because it just needs vixen to get going while making full use of its cooldown. The reduced duration variation needs at least 233% cast speed before being bottleneck by cooldown and spell echo just feels bad to play with. generic reduced duration also reduces QoL and poison variation needs more investment due to malevolence.
@DCorpsPlays
@DCorpsPlays Жыл бұрын
does impending doom work with triggered curses as well? I am thinking of removing one curse on the Vixens then slotting in another Impending doom instead.
@MathieuPilot
@MathieuPilot Жыл бұрын
Without damage support gems linked to impending doom the damage will be reallly low.
@DCorpsPlays
@DCorpsPlays Жыл бұрын
@@MathieuPilot thanks for this. i was thinking it might be good.
@piicareta
@piicareta 11 ай бұрын
I tried the ocultist crit version on standard and it works fine, i think this fix only works on pathfinder version idk
@dnnymm6447
@dnnymm6447 Жыл бұрын
@defry1234
@defry1234 Жыл бұрын
Alt quality gems gone in 3.23 unfortunately. Transfigured gems seem to be only skill gems as well.
@Multihuntr0
@Multihuntr0 Жыл бұрын
Looks like Dialla's is going to be a chase Unique this league...
@chicomanara
@chicomanara Жыл бұрын
You talk with so much certanty that made me doubt myself, but for what I heard we don't get alt quality gems anymore. Even in standart they will exist, but the effects will roll back to the main quality. They said they would make versions of skill gems, not auras or heralds. No word on support gems. Sadly, supports that trigger another skill like impending doom and shockwave were not included in the patch notes, so we don't know If they will tweak the quality effects on those.
@Surgeon_General
@Surgeon_General Жыл бұрын
Published before patch, no one predicted removal of alt quality
@berloga03
@berloga03 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Chris is indeed enemy
@hevnly3710
@hevnly3710 Жыл бұрын
just to confirm, awakened spell cascade also wont proc it anymore?
@Surgeon_General
@Surgeon_General Жыл бұрын
Not consistently like it did before. You would have to aim AWAY from the enemy to line up overlaps and it's not reliable.
@testolog
@testolog Жыл бұрын
i have build a curse override immediately as doom was append. So i can say, cascade is not necessary. Just keep same stuff without cascade, anyway doom explode per single enemy but with 3 charges. So, for boos is anyway don't matter, for pack monsters also not. I don't understand. what is issue is. Curse overwrite is anyway work, just need to make sure apply curses lass than available. Yes this is not kind a single click explode is 2, for monsters which are not have any curses yet. But two click instead one, not a big deal to start kill. Just 2 for fresh pack, u can append instead cascade a support what is share curse after dead
@Billy4321able
@Billy4321able Жыл бұрын
Are you having a stroke?
@testolog
@testolog Жыл бұрын
@@Billy4321able I don't understand.
@ps-ib6ct
@ps-ib6ct Жыл бұрын
i guess with altQ gems out the window with patchnotes the curse duration is ded
@ElPepo1337
@ElPepo1337 Жыл бұрын
Spamming Vivid Valtures for profit likely wont be that good in 3.23 and mght even enter slight gambling territory (Assuming this changes heavily affect woke cascade price)
@DistressQQ
@DistressQQ Жыл бұрын
Question. If just the spell cascade changes go through, no others, the build will technically function exactly as it is now, with just half the single target damage, right? It's just the overlap that is supposed to get demolished, the normal interaction of curses and vixen proccing is supposed to still work, right? Obviously that would feel terrible for someone who tried the build before, but even without overlap wouldn't there be enough damage to still call the build s tier, aspecially because of all of the pathfinder defence tech ? With the sanctum jewel and some investment it can still be like a 6mil + single target dps build, with tons of aoe and prolif, and basicly immortal.
@Surgeon_General
@Surgeon_General Жыл бұрын
The complaint people had at the start of 3.22 is that Doom Blast wasn’t triggering on the first cast - they had to cast twice to actually proc damage. The changes are both a reduction in the single target damage plus some added “clunkiness” for mapping. To see what it will be like, you can check Crouching Tunas video from a few months ago titled something like “Impending Doom is Bugged”
@DistressQQ
@DistressQQ Жыл бұрын
@@Surgeon_General yeah that would suck. Shame, wanted to try it for the first time. There's still time untill patch notes, maybe the changes are going to get implemeneted in a different way
@DMyTryC
@DMyTryC Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't inc aoe work going forward?
@Surgeon_General
@Surgeon_General Жыл бұрын
Inc AoE scales both the radius of the circles as well as their spacing so the overlap region ends up being mostly unchanged; that’s basically what the fix to spell cascade was addressing.
@DMyTryC
@DMyTryC Жыл бұрын
Ok, thx, it sucks then :/
@laitraninh2948
@laitraninh2948 11 ай бұрын
impending doom crit osculist still usable?
@Surgeon_General
@Surgeon_General 11 ай бұрын
Probably not using reduced duration. Could switch to something using Fated End for a similar build type
@frankcoley1537
@frankcoley1537 11 ай бұрын
​@Surgeon_General Stll ok with ignite builds though or ?? ....
@LawiId
@LawiId Жыл бұрын
in short; too weak, too expensive and too much investment also not viable for league starter. such a shame that this pre-nerf come from a bug to fix and ruin the build as the same time.
@bogdanlazy1997
@bogdanlazy1997 Жыл бұрын
Catarina farmers stonks
@ps-ib6ct
@ps-ib6ct Жыл бұрын
if more than 5% of last league ID players wanted to play with kulemaks thered be no on the market so price would be skyhigh, doesnt seem viable
@UsableObject
@UsableObject Жыл бұрын
Man, i didnt know this was happening and I just got back into my SSF standard characters and spent about 80 hours over the last few weeks leveling and gearing an Impending Doom pathfinder. Damn, hopefully once 3.23 comes I can try to transition into one of these versions. If not, rip regrets as i transition to deadeye
@no_opas
@no_opas Жыл бұрын
just dont build it on pf on occultist does everything still and pops are cool
@H2LiNGeN
@H2LiNGeN Жыл бұрын
Big brain
@no_opas
@no_opas Жыл бұрын
@@H2LiNGeN indeed :)
@KolinarK
@KolinarK Жыл бұрын
OH NO NO NO
@noyesyesnonoyes
@noyesyesnonoyes Жыл бұрын
impending doom damage post 3.22 is not worth the investment
@Surgeon_General
@Surgeon_General Жыл бұрын
Probably - put another way, Impending Doom pre-nerf was very powerful for very little investment.
@Innomen
@Innomen Жыл бұрын
So long story short, it's still bricked. Requiring more investment is deal breaking, You might as well run the meta since by default you're already required to dump so many points to establish sufficient damage and defense. This game is becoming unplayable. It's just an arcade apm shooter with a ton of extra steps and grind.
@jhamezsky
@jhamezsky Жыл бұрын
Sad ending for impending doom
@lolleonlolable
@lolleonlolable Жыл бұрын
so tldr = its shit now.
@superbia1698
@superbia1698 Жыл бұрын
and much more expensive
@TheOne23_
@TheOne23_ Жыл бұрын
You dudes are so negative, this wasn’t a build guide. To me this is as a video on how to start the theory craft to work around the nerfs. I’m sure someone will find something similar if community makes videos similar to this
@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong
@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong Жыл бұрын
​@@TheOne23_There's no theory crafting done here, these are all things people realized before. People already knew of cane and dialla method. Cane just sucked cuz expensive to get all the good rolls and losing shield slot sucks ass. Dialla is also just shit overall.
@YoutubeStyleChannel
@YoutubeStyleChannel Жыл бұрын
It's still a viable mapping build, it's just much more expensive to do and not league start viable. Sadly in the 3.23 state, it's too weak for a second toon, and too expensive for a first.
@Siegram999
@Siegram999 Жыл бұрын
these are things people already cooked and they were worse than the vixen's tech.@@TheOne23_
@naswinger
@naswinger Жыл бұрын
my god how many ads do you have on this video!
@Surgeon_General
@Surgeon_General Жыл бұрын
Creators do not have control over how many ads are placed
@codranine6054
@codranine6054 Жыл бұрын
Actin like they didn’t change it on purpose haha
@Ryan_but_the_name_was_taken
@Ryan_but_the_name_was_taken Жыл бұрын
Every time a build dies people find a new build that becomes meta. A necessary loss to make the game fresh
@The_Totes_Adorbs
@The_Totes_Adorbs Жыл бұрын
Tried the build only once with about a 25ish divine budget. It's one of the worst feeling builds I've ever experienced in my life. From it's clear, bossing, damage, and defense... even if it was a 20c budget I don't think it's worth it. It's just bad. Meanwhile you can just go toxic rain with absolutely no budget outside of a quill rain and a 5l (bow or armour) and complete your entire atlas with ease.
@Lorrey377
@Lorrey377 Жыл бұрын
Have you tried crit version on Occultist using Sandstorm Visage? It just removes monsters from map in couple of clicks
@The_Totes_Adorbs
@The_Totes_Adorbs Жыл бұрын
@@Lorrey377 Naw, I had played the Pathfinder(I think) Variant. The more popular one, this was either last league or 2 leagues ago. Hard to tell... since leagues went from 4 months to like 8 months now :I
@vajguy
@vajguy Жыл бұрын
Lies! ID pathfinder (poison) is the best build p4p. Good clear speed, good bossing, can do wave 30simulacrum for like 10div-early league. I bet they nerf pathfinder next league though. Lol
@The_Totes_Adorbs
@The_Totes_Adorbs Жыл бұрын
@@vajguy I miss old pathfinder.. back in 2.6 or so when flasks increased max res and there was no max to your max res... PF alone could get perma 101%+ max res, meaning elemental damage actually healed you... Especially when you with Queen of the Forest which had no ceiling on movement speed... could have a town movement speed of 3,000% easily... all the time, always up. You become SPEED!
@Lorrey377
@Lorrey377 Жыл бұрын
@@vajguy , well, they definitely may nerf it. But "the best"? I can disagree. 40+ mil shaper dps without any buildup, great movement speed, ~50k ehp and explosions are pretty hard to beat in under 100 div category. Not a 10 div build, yeah, but still better than pf. Also, "can do w30 simz" and "can RELIABLY do w30 simz" are quite different characteristics IMO.
@erwinbucks658
@erwinbucks658 11 ай бұрын
😠 'Promo SM'
@optiondezzo1513
@optiondezzo1513 Жыл бұрын
anom impending doom + window of opportunity + enhance lvl 4 shd do it.
@Surgeon_General
@Surgeon_General Жыл бұрын
Enhance only affects skill gems; Impending Doom is a support.
@optiondezzo1513
@optiondezzo1513 Жыл бұрын
@@Surgeon_General in that case less duration support + anom impending doom should suffice? not sure if window of opportunity will be overkill
@Surgeon_General
@Surgeon_General Жыл бұрын
@@optiondezzo1513 “Less duration” multiplies with “reduced duration” so it doesn’t work how you think. 50% reduced and 50% less works out to: Duration = Base duration * (1-0.5) * 0.5
@Mirrion05
@Mirrion05 Жыл бұрын
Long video to tell me not to play the build. Would've loved a tldr honestly. Great vid otherwise.
@pumpgod940
@pumpgod940 Жыл бұрын
Does this run replica doedre's damning?
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