Outlander "Unfinished Business" Episode 709 My Outlander Purgatory Breaks It Down!

[@tmhaines1963]

I bawled at the end! Papa Ian wanted young Ian’s last image of him to be strong

[@MONIQUEPLUTON]

trop triste

[@lissalong7045]

Loved the scene with Roger knocking at the door and Jamie answers but it’s different times. Reminded me of season 2 as when Claire gets off the plane in Boston and Jamie is the one who takes her out of the carriage in France. Loved it.❤

[@amritawhitman8112]

Actually Jamie took Claire's hand as she was stepping off the ship when they arrived in France, not a carriage.

[@joannepiatte4026]

Loved that scene.

[@lissalong7045]

@@amritawhitman8112 Thanks for correcting me. It’s been so long that I wasn’t sure I had the details right but yes a great scene😁

[@cathleenrichards3841]

I was delighted to see they used the same actress who played Joanie in S4. She’s grown up and so lovely!

[@Bailey2006a]

Happy you guys are back…missed the heck out of these discussions. Also, happy it finally rained in Jersey and here in New York. My roses are still blooming…scary!As a non book reader, I’m loving these episodes…the jumping back and forth and old cast members popping up is crazy good.

[@thewitchery6044]

The new Jenny acted her ass off. Great job!

[@peteg475]

I totally bought "new Jenny" as the same character. That's tough to do, sometimes - recast successfully, I mean.

[@purplekat1695]

I loved hearing Roger's thought's they were so funny 😂 Claire leaving Scotland to go to the aid of Lord John's nephew is nonsense but I think a lot of the story is severely cut due to time. I got the impression that the production team didn't know there was going to be a season 8 when making this season hence the rush and changing story lines. I saw an interview with Kirsten who plays Jenny and she said that when Jenny was originally cast it was between her and Laura Donnelly obviously Laura got the part 😊

[@cerisewilson4088]

I’m not a book reader and I really thought when Jamie answered the door it was going to be Roger.

[@OurBucketListHasHoles]

Hello ladies 👋🫶 I couldn’t watch this until I seen the show. I had to watch two shows back to back. I missed the return show due to family functions. I’m commenting as I’m watching. It’s good to see you two back. Much love and see ya on the next shows review. 🥰

[@amritawhitman8112]

I agree! The storyline which calls for Claire to make yet another extremely risky transatlantic trip in order to perform surgery on Lord John's nephew was absurd for the reason you both discussed, as well as some other reasons. While I haven't read the books, I imagine that in the book his nephew was probably injured while Claire was in the vicinity and so could be called upon to help soon after he was injured. He would have very little time left if she didn't operate on him within hours after the injury. The storyline should have been discarded rather than be filmed and I wonder why it wasn't. Sometimes we have to just laugh and suspend belief! 😂😉 I love the series!

[@edo4896]

I don't know why they didn't just keep it as one of her grandchildren like it was in the books. Or if they had to change it make it actually b Marsali or Fergus who were injured as this would be a more urgent and personal reason for Claire to leave her dying family member and risk the journey.

[@jessicaseiden7222]

Loved your recap and both of your perspectives! Tysm - fav parts, the door knock, Roger figuring out the time jump, J+C banter and love lines, old Ian walking out, Joanie & Gellis. Great ep❤

[@Tiki71]

The search for the kid should be called the Buck-Rogers timeline. I told that to my wife and she didn't seem to appreciate it. Hmmfph.

[@PurgatoryCarol]

😂💯

[@MONIQUEPLUTON]

@@Tiki71 pourriez vous traduire

[@Myoutlanderpurgatory]

@@MONIQUEPLUTON Here is my best try from Google Translate: Il existe un personnage très célèbre de science-fiction nommé Buck Rogers. Il y a environ 30 ans, il y avait une émission télévisée populaire sur le personnage. Dans la série, Buck Rogers voyage et vit de nombreuses aventures. C'est pourquoi c'est si drôle que Buck et Roger voyagent à travers l'Écosse pour vivre des aventures ! 🙂

[@amritawhitman8112]

I haven't read any of the books, so since you asked...YES, I was very surprised when Jamie opened the door to find Joanie and when Roger knocked at the same door and was greeted by Jamie's father! I loved how they executed those two scenes! The suspense was great! I was so excited when Jamie and the family were interrupted by the knock on the door. As he approached the door my mind was racing at the thought of how shocked Roger, Jamie and Claire were going to be to see each other again. As happy as I was to see all grown up Joanie played by the same actress, I was also heartbroken for Roger. Initially, the actor playing Brian Fraser looked familiar, but my mind was a bit scrambled at the point as I was processing these two surprises. THEN when he said his name my mind was 🤯🤯 And I realized, OMG, they landed in the wrong time period! They couldn't have staged that better. I didn't find anything in the episode confusing.

[@KC-nj6hx]

"Remember Paoli!!" that is so awesome, a direct shout out from Diana😊❤

[@martinaprior6551]

Wonderful recap Tracy and Carole. So happy we are back in the outlander world. Thanks for the time you invest entertaining all of us.

[@leslieross1046]

Hey guys....Buck's mother is Geilles and his father is Dougal!!!!

[@AvilaCranfill]

I'm so excited for this second half! The Roger/Buck side quest is one of my favorites of the series.

[@celiamccormick6365]

I liked the description given of the fairy man's clothes. Book readers will know who it is!!!

[@katherinenoggle5856]

On Jamie's wig... Jamie was a ginger. As ginger gets older, it tends to turn blonde rather than grey. Sam is a natural blonde so way more natural. I think they got it right.

[@barbaradempsey7065]

Great recap, Tracey and Carol! I have to go back to the books and skim, because I read them years ago. It’s hard to remember, but as I remember they were at Lallybroch for awhile. In the show it seems that Claire went to Scotland for a long weekend. I ugly cried when Ian mustered all his strength (like a true Highlander) to follow the wagon to wave good bye to young Ian. I loved seeing Geillis, one of the most interesting characters ever. The Roger and Buck storyline will be very interesting.

[@zalmandawi2]

It was Jenny who was riding the horse telling Roger his kinsman is sick

[@CuteLilRN]

Yes, Jenny has no children in 1739, she isn’t even married to Ian who is off in France with Jamie. Ian and Jenny get married during the years Jamie is hiding out at Castle Leoch due being an outlaw after escaping fort William where Black Jack flogged him.

[@mariawilliams4180]

2 best scenes for me: Loved the anticipation of the knock at the door/dual scene & gasped when Brian Fraser answers for Roger. The last scene when Geillis Duncan appears. So good. Yesh, didn’t Roger & Bree have drinks at a pub with Geillis? Can’t wait for next episode.

[@melissabowers6268]

Thanks for such a sweet message on your last video and thanks for this video. Wouldn't be an Outlander recap without Tracey and Carol leading us up with a RECAP - however long it may be! Much love to you always. Hope 3rd Sister Jill is doing well as well. Love that Tracey's book is signed by HERSELF - Diana lives here in AZ and I love going to the Poisoned Pen and seeing if I can see Diana signing stuff there.

[@LouLou-bu2th]

So happy to have Outlander and you both - back! 🥰 I agree with Carol, Lord John’s nephew being ‘the one’ is pure silliness. 🙄 The new Jenny (actress) - FANTASTIC! 👏🏻 Hmmm … I feel like Young Ian’s heart wasn’t in Scotland once he saw his family and had a little time with them, so I agreed with encouraging him to go back with Claire. Young Ian’s place wasn’t in Scotland and it was solidified when he mentioned Rachel. 😊

[@cerisewilson4088]

The thing that makes no sense to me regarding Claire going back to save Lord John’s nephew, are they forgetting how long it’s going to take someone to sail back the America?

[@JamesZ-p9h]

LOVED Jamie’s narration. His voice! Great way to start for many reasons.

[@MONIQUEPLUTON]

Moi aussi j ai adoré la voix de Jamie

[@justme.1st]

Lol, enjoyed the chat :) when you were talking about ljg requesting Claire to return to help his nephew my first thought was for Claire to ask him to send for Dennie instead, the nephew scenario made no sense but ok?

[@kjam1709]

Thank you for sharing about Tom ♥Fellow widows can related. I appreciate you both so much. On this episode! I am so surprised that you did not comment on a few things: 1. the show keeping Sinead O'Connor's version of the Skye Boat song. (Made me cry immediately!) 2. the awkward Roger narrations (seems like the audio was too loud?) 3. Jenny showing young Ian the gravestone for Isabel. 😢

[@Myoutlanderpurgatory]

We liked the Roger narrations-and we talk about the graveyard scene, no? We thought it was a lovely moment.

[@peteg475]

Carol, I was totally commiserating with your situation. I'm about your age, and I lost my wife three years ago. I haven't really "dated", either, and the whole thing is kind of a bummer, because you're always asking yourself the same questions: "Is it too soon? Should I be doing this? Do I even want to do this? Is it important, or should I forget it?" You basically get stuck in a situation where you have to worry and think about these things - the kind of things you thought you'd never have to deal with again after you got married. It's certainly not ideal, believe me. I get it.

[@KCtaurus80]

So glad you girls are back. I need the escape from reality and you two crack me up. My husband was diagnosed with cancer during the break so your videos make my day ❤️

[@Myoutlanderpurgatory]

😘😘😘

[@cathieferro9028]

I think they will put more makeup to make Old Ian look sicker in this next episode. I cried when he came out to say goodbye to young Ian in his kilt. Such a powerful message to his son.

[@lauriestonehaskell1687]

So delighted to be with the two of you again. I have missed hearing your banter and entertaining discussion of the Jamie and Claire story. I am so glad you are back. I do agree with Carol that Ian needed to make his own choice about staying with his father and not go with Claire on yet another voyage. I have very strong feelings about this point. To leave your dying father who you haven't seen in 10 years and go on a journey to find a woman who may or may not be receptive and available.... it makes no sense. Also, Buck's mother is Geillis and Dougal..... so Buck and Roger showing up at her door is very interesting. Remember Geillis pregnant being carried on her back to be burned at the stake? Also, I thought Claire's leaving Jamie yet again to go to Philadelphia to tend to Lord John's nephew was ridiculous. I remember reading in the book that when it was Henri-Christian that was ill it made some sense for Claire to leave Scotland... and Jamie... but to go because of Lord John's nephew.... ?????? I do understand that for the storyline to flow Claire and Jamie need to part... again. What comes to pass in future episodes as a result is WILD.

[@MONIQUEPLUTON]

Je pensais aussi que Claire devait se rendre au chevet de Henri Christian car il etait malade et devait se faire operer de ses amydales

[@gabbyspringer8356]

My heart was racing when Roger was knocking at the door (non book reader).

[@claudiajones7724]

Loved seeing you posted this today (Sunday). I tried to hold off on watching E7.9 till tonight, but caved yesterday. Just started your recap. You're talking about 'Silence of the Lambs' as I type this!

[@Smothermon]

Not a book reader and agree Lord John's nephew to leave for...didn't make sense to me. Marsli and Fergus would have made way more sense. Great job ladies.

[@barbaradempsey7065]

Great recap, Tracey and Carol! I have to go back to the books and skim, because I read them years ago. It’s hard to remember, but as I remember they were at Lallybroch for awhile. In the show it seems that Claire went to Scotland for a long weekend. I loved seeing Geillis, one of the most interesting characters. The Roger and Buck storyline will be very interesting.

[@rondarlenesowers6478]

So happy to be watching you two on KZbin again! Loved your recap. My thoughts: wish J&C could have had at least 1 longer intimate exchange in the master’s bedroom, wish Jamie would have at least gave Joanie a hug ( you can tell she loves him like a Da), thought there Was really no other way storywise to get Claire back to the States. Any plot would have seemed weird. We just have to give the writers license to move the story along. As a book reader it is frustrating sometimes but this is the tv version. It is what it is! Couldn’t get over the last scene with Gellis, was floored when she opened the door! You both look great by the way- see you next week!

[@tamitarekolayan9918]

Great chat ladies! I felt a little confused and overwhelmed with this episode, but you both made it clear! Thanks 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿💙

[@jamesleo5399]

Great recap! Glad MOP is back! I think the person in the Easter egg is Jemmy tracing the letters on the headstone (it’s covered in moss & overgrown). It would have made more sense for Claire to make the trip to Philadelphia if William (Jamie’s son) had been shot. So good to see Ian & Jenny again. Kristen was excellent as Jenny! ❤Loved this episode & can’t wait to see how the rest of the season unfolds.👏

[@jamesleo5399]

Sorry…just realized you did say Jemmy was tracing the headstone🤦‍♀

[@crystalkathuria4381]

Good to see you ladies while I clean for thanksgiving family

[@karencyr1417]

I absolutely ❤ you both and your different perspectives! Please keep up the excellent work! Remember Paoli!

[@PurgatoryCarol]

REMEMBER PAOLI!!! 🇺🇸❤

[@celiamccormick6365]

Overall, the episode was well done! Yes,the actresses name is Layla, who was in S3. In the book,Laoghaire tells Jamie that Belriggin was the only place she felt safe.

[@juliegafner6023]

This feels so good to be back together again, ladies. I too Carrol am having a coffee and whiskey. Here in Wisconsin, it's cold and raining. It felt so good to be back in this show. I have to say the wonderful actress Kristen Atherton shines in the role of Jenny, but also I do miss Laura Donnelly. I'm hopeful that we'll see more of her in season 8. I'm reading Bee's at the moment. I'm at the time of the story with young Ian, Rachel, and Jenny. Looking forward to next week ladies. Have a great Thanksgiving 😊

[@thewitchery6044]

Oh also, I was a bit disappointed in the scene where they tell The Murrays about Claire. It seems to me like it should've been "a bit, well, a bit more."

[@thewitchery6044]

I do like the 'messing with Roger's timeline' part. That was clever.

[@peteg475]

Yeah, I get that and I agree. You can sort of imagine a much longer conversation about it if it's in a book. With more detail. Haven't read the books, don't know how it's handled. The biggest takeaway for Claire to explain to them is, "The stones are magic, I'm not. I'm just a regular person. The first time I came through was an accident."

[@peteg475]

Re: 'messing with Roger's timeline' Again, haven't read the books, but it kinda makes sense. When Claire (except the first time), Roger or Brianna travel, they have a force of will to know exactly to what time they want to go. The stones "sense" that, I guess. But why would Rob Cameron use the stones and automatically be dropped in the exact same time (1778 or whatever)? Then when Roger and Buck are chasing him, they are mentally signalling the stones that they want to go wherever Cameron and Jemmy went. So that's where (and when) they end up. Clever.

[@mariandileo9405]

@@thewitchery6044 Ab. Mrs Fitz.

[@dorikragh1939]

Love you guys! So glad you’re back

[@jessicaseiden7222]

In the book leogharie’s bf has a short leg or something. In the book, Jenny wrote to Jamie that she had someone in her life so Jamie was wondering about the alimony. Also, Jamie and L have a second convo and the laugh about who he took the beating for. They took pieces of the book but it didn’t really make sense

[@edo4896]

Yeas. I remembered the conversation with Loaghaire being more cathartic and heartfelt. But in the show it was almost too short and she was just insulting him the whole time so nothing was accomplished.

[@ccpumpkin5426]

Yes I expected the healer to be Geillis bc it happened in the book! I also think the Lord Johns nephew was stupid! They should have had William be injured and needed surgery bc that definitely would have been a good reason for Claire to leave Jamie and old dieing Ian!!

[@loveydovey802]

There was another blending of the books. Marsali wrote Claire, or maybe the letter was thru Lagohaire, to come back because Henri Christian needed a tonsillectomy. Switching it to LJG's nephew and Mercy hurried the story up. Edit, sorry, you did mention this.

[@madeleine1313]

As a none book reader, I was a little puzzled as to why no one really asked Claire questions when she told them the truth about her? If I was sitting at that table and she had just told me she was from the future I would have had many questions for her. I wonder if more detail was expressed in the book? I enjoyed the twist when Jamie opened the door and Roger found himself in the wrong time, I didn't see that coming. Thank you for sharing book parts. : )

[@edo4896]

I think they time-lapse the reaction from the family after Claire's reveal (signaled by the cut away from the scene). Perhaps we are meant to interpret that as them ask8ng questions during the time we are not watching the scene of that makes sense.

[@kdancheva]

@Tracey: I had the exact same thought as you when I saw the new Jenny-I really thought she looked so much like Marsali!

[@carmenduranart9403]

I knew as soon as she said, we don’t have a healer, but we have an herbalist, wink wink. It wasn’t gonna be just any old herbalist.! And I thought the shot was interesting because it was outside by the fountain .

[@susanrampersaud]

If I were young Ian, I'd find more comfort and peace staying with my Dad until the end. He has missed so much time with his Dad! Be there for his Mom! Should be wee Ian's choice. Ian wants to make a choice that will not cause him guilt and regret later, and only he knows what that choice should be! Send Rachel a "wait for me" letter. Then go get the dog after he's gone.

[@conniesandlin6712]

Henri Christian didn’t have tonsillitis. He had obstructive sleep apnea because his tonsils were so big, he was at risk of dying if his airway was closed by his tonsils, if he didn’t sleep sitting up.

[@mariandileo9405]

Just one little correction Tracey, if you don't mind. It is Jemmy who is tracing the letters on the headstone in the Easter egg.

[@Myoutlanderpurgatory]

Right-that’s not what I said? What was it?

[@mariandileo9405]

Oh I apologize. I went back and rewatched your video. I thought you said “Jenny” where you clearly said “Jemmy”. I’ve gotten older too. 😳

[@Myoutlanderpurgatory]

@@mariandileo9405lol no worries!! 😊

[@kathrynwicklund5880]

Ya the MOP ladies are back!

[@juliashehata2835]

In the books henri christan is having trouble breathing and needs surgery to get rid of his tonsils Leghair wants Claire to save him ( henri is her grandson and she even respects Claire for going back to try to save their Grandson. It provided a desparate situation to get her to America. Dont know why they didnt go by the book, but i guess well see.

[@leslieross1046]

Welcome back!!! I wonder if I am the only one that notices ridiculous, little things that occur in the story. Simon Fraser and his brother, Hugh....and Leoghaire's two first husbands that Jamie tells Claire about. Simon and Hugh...happens a lot in the story...repetition of name scenarios.

[@DaianaRios-p7h]

Hello ladies, Daiana here from the Jersey Shore. I was part of the Girls trip to Scotland with you both😊. Did you catch in this tidbit in the scene when Brian Fraser takes Roger to meet with John Murray? Mr. Murray states, “local farmers noticed a fairy man dressed strangely with long britches and boots unlike they’ve ever seen,” I suspect this is a another relative of Roger and it’s NOT Buck, IYKYK😮😮

[@Myoutlanderpurgatory]

Hi Daiana!! GREAT observation 😊😊😊 Hope all is well!!

[@PurgatoryCarol]

Hi Daiana!!! ❤ So good to "see" you! 😊 And Tracey's right; GREAT observation! We shall see what happens!

[@peteg475]

The "Lord John's nephew" thing isn't even the biggest problem. Explain this to me: It takes six weeks on average to cross the Atlantic in the 18th Century. So the guy gets shot with a musket ball, Lord John sends letters out to where he thinks Claire might be, she has to get the letter, decide to go back and get to Philadelphia. At absolute minimum, it takes all of this north of three months. So the nephew has a bullet in his body for three months and Claire is desperately needed to save him? No sepsis? Some war vets have bullets in them that are never removed and the person lives, but the whole thing makes no sense to me. In the real world, Claire is going to get there and the nephew will be dead and buried. A boy with tonsillitis for three months makes slightly more sense, maybe. Am I missing something?

[@Myoutlanderpurgatory]

It's like we say in the video--clearly Henri-Christian wasn't an option--for whatever reason. So the next best option (that gets Claire to Philly) is....???? I honestly have no clue. Maybe it doesn't even involve a sick person? Maybe Lord John himself is in some danger? She might go back for that.

[@peteg475]

@@Myoutlanderpurgatory That would make more sense. A problem that will still exist three months hence, that she can help with. A wounded soldier just doesn't work. Maybe the writers were counting on viewers not remembering how difficult communication and travel were back then?

[@lizzy5625]

@@Myoutlanderpurgatory maybe it's because Fergus & Marsli are not in this season, I heard they were in season 8. I was just thinking that, cause it's just strange to change it, had to be a reason. LOVE Y'ALL EDIT: y'all just said what I wrote 😅great minds think alike

[@juliegafner6023]

Totally agree with you about this lame story telling. Claire goes back for a totally different situation, but because the storyline couldn't play out they came up with this. 😐

[@lakecrazy]

Re Claire asking Jamie if he wanted to know who L. Was sleeping with, it came from the book. There was discussions between Jamie &Claire about him feeling a bit jealous or not good about L. Having a partner when she didn’t want Jamie touching her. And re L. Rehashing the kiss, etc., remember “she’ll be a girl when she’s 50” and not what Jamie needs per Murtaugh.

[@MONIQUEPLUTON]

J aimais beaucoup quand Jamie appelait Claire Sassenach, maintenant c'est Claire

[@Myoutlanderpurgatory]

@@MONIQUEPLUTON Je suis d'accord! Dans les livres, Jamie appelle rarement Claire par ce nom. (PS I used Google translate there so I hope it makes sense!)

[@cerisewilson4088]

When they said there was an herbalist in town, I put it together and was not surprised.

[@rayrheault2406]

One item puzzles me. Isn't consumption (TB) contagious, and wouldn't Claire know that? Everyone was understandably hugging Ian Sr. with no worry about contagion? What am I missing?

[@Myoutlanderpurgatory]

EXCELLENT point--I have no clue how they got around that in the books!

[@MONIQUEPLUTON]

C etait tres contagieux car Ian père avait attrapé la tuberculose, et ils s embrassaient tous, Claire ayant étudier la médecine, aurait du les dissuader

[@PurgatoryCarol]

I was thinking the same thought while I was watching; "What am I missing???" He would have been contagious as hell! Jenny and the rest of the family would probably already have contracted it! Side note: Our grandfather died at age 33 in 1934...and I just received a non-redacted death certificate that proved it was TB (we had been told it was pneumonia/emphysema)...so this storyline is yet another compelling one for me!!

[@auntvesuvi3872]

Thanks to Tracey and Carol! 🥃

[@jessicaseiden7222]

Also, in the show they didn’t bring Marsali, Fergus and their kids into the story as much in the book. I remember thinking that they J, C & L were all connected bc of them

[@edo4896]

I miss Ferua and Marsali in the show. It feels like they have been going out of their way to exclude them this season when they are pretty involved during the war parts of this book.

[@MONIQUEPLUTON]

@@edo4896 Maryl Davis avait fait savoir que pour la saison 7 B les personnages de Marsali et Fergus ne seraient pas presents car les acteurs etaient sur d autres tournages

[@Myoutlanderpurgatory]

@@MONIQUEPLUTON 😥

[@jo9376]

I had to go back and look it up but in the books Roger only sees Gellis going through the stones. Afterwards Claire gets some of her notebooks that Roger gets when Claire goes back. It’s only in the show that Roger meets Gillian Edgar’s at the university.

[@martinaprior6551]

Buck was on his way back to Lallybroch when he fell sick.

[@martinaprior6551]

About Loaghaire . Jenney wrote to Jamie that she went to LOAGHAIRE‘s house overhearing her heaving sex. It always bothered Jamie and I remember being mad on Claire‘s behalf. L. always recoiled from Jamie’s touch and he didn’t know why. I liked that they showed us this part of the story and I find myself being so much softer on her.

[@cordova421]

They told Ian during a scene in NC

[@mandalaartist4423]

So Clair “couldn’t” cure Ian, but Clair leaves Jamie and Lollybroch to cure someone else!!!! I could see Jenny ‘s attitude with Clair. I understand the reason Clair couldn’t cure Ian, but I’m sure Jenny didn’t understand the reasons. Sometimes Clair’s actions frustrate me, but I understand the actions and choices are what carries the story forward. Great discussion. Haven’t watched this episode yet. You gals will help me to understand everything going on without being confused.

[@mikerhodes9198]

They created a major stupidity issue when they concocted the guy shot in the gut. Anyone shot in the gut back then might have a few days of life left in them with one week at the absolute maximum though he would be in agony by that time. Considering it took a month for the written message to reach them by ship and then it would take another month for Claire to travel back to Philadelphia makes the guy living with muskat balls in his gut probably with ruptured bowel living at least two months. That is 100% impossible and I used to be Director of EMS. More, any untrained person today and certainly their medical advisor should have put the nix on this stupid story script. It's so bad it breaks you out of the story as you watch this episode and wonders how they could make this big of a mistake. They should fire their medical advisor.

[@PurgatoryCarol]

SLOW GOLF CLAP for YOU! I could not agree more. Our great grandfather fell off a railroad box car in 1908, injured his FOOT, went back to work in a few days, and ended up dying of sepsis a few weeks later. And that was his FOOT! In 1908! Can you imagine a musket ball to the GUT in the 18th century?! Get outta here! LOL Guess we've gotta suspend disbelief big time on this one!! PS THANK YOU for your service, public or private. My daughter is in EMT training right now. ❤

[@bonya4585]

I’m here for it. I think they’re talking about Jamie’s older brother Willie, who died.

[@shellstars]

Let’s do this! Thank you

[@purplekat1695]

On the point about who was riding up to warn Roger about Buck, it was young Jenny as her daughter wasn't born yet 😊

[@Myoutlanderpurgatory]

Yup--realized that late in the video. DOH!!

[@purplekat1695]

​@Myoutlanderpurgatory Sorry ladies just going to finish watching the rest of your video now, I hope 😊 I look after my toddler Granddaughter while my daughter is at work so I struggle for time to watch all in one go 😂

[@conniesandlin6712]

Y'all didn't touch on the report of the strangely dressed "faerie man" when Roger was looking for Jemmy.

[@Donnawilkinson-fe2jp]

It’s Rodger’s dad!

[@loveydovey802]

Yay! Glad you're back. Simon's funeral was pages and pages. Reading it, I could feel the cold and damp. It was all a good set up for things to come. I hope the new Jenny gets a new wig.

[@cherylbremson2421]

I don't understand why this series has wig issues. Maybe it has to do with the budget or something. There have been so many bad wigs.

[@loveydovey802]

@cherylbremson2421 Remember all the incredible embroidery on the men's vests and jackets, I think at Bree's wedding. They put so much into that. Claire's wedding dress. The costumes are so beautiful. Why the party store wigs?

[@MommaPamE]

So happy to see you ladies! Loved this episode, Steven Cree was amazing, and I thought the make up was good, he looked so gray compared to the others. Btw, they totally filtered Jenny’s face to make her look younger! Go back and look! But my goodness, get her a better wig it was awful and distracting! I thought it was weird Jamie never hugged Joanie, he was cold to her I thought. Lastly, can someone submit Carol to be the next Golden Bachelorette! She would be awesome on that show, just sayin!😂

[@Myoutlanderpurgatory]

Pretty sure Golden Bachelorette has been suggested to Carol (cough cough) HER MOVE!!!

[@thevicarage9841]

Jamie's hair has faded over the years from his coppery/mahogany curls to the strawberry blonde he has now because that's process of redheads going white. Redheads don't turn gray. Too much pigment. Turning white happens gradually. Sometimes, never fully.

[@MONIQUEPLUTON]

Mais toujours aussi beau

[@annettesailors3663]

In the book, Ian and Young Ian went for a walk. The decision for Young Ian to go back unfolded in a more realistic fashion that way. In the show, it seemed very rushed. I think that is what made it seem like he was being thrown out without being heard.

[@MONIQUEPLUTON]

Je reconnais que la scene du depart de Ian fils laissant son père tres malade m'a fait pleurer, car Ian ne reverra jamais plus son père

[@jessicaseiden7222]

I don’t think Ian knows that swiftest of lizards is defiantly his. I think he’s told that the boys grandma says he has his spirit and Ian suspects bc of the boy’s age🤷‍♀️

[@celiamccormick6365]

That's why she wanted it. I feel that was young Jenny on the horse because John Murray said Ian isn't here. Roger's in 1739 or 1740.

[@jessicaseiden7222]

I think Ian should have had more choice in the show but in the book I think he wanted to leave more so. I also remember thinking that Jamie wouldn’t have let Claire gone w/o Ian going with her. At least in the book I thought so

[@mellie2274]

So wonderful to watch your vlog again, not to mention the new episode! So I have a few things to add….in no particular order: 1) Ned Gowan WAS in the book in the scene with the new contract. He’s in his late 90s. I don’t know why the actor wasn’t there. Maybe he’s doing something else and wasn’t available. (He’s like in his 70s, by the way! Lol Oh, and the actress Nell Hudson who plays Leoghaire….get ready ….is only 34! My husband thinks she looks too young!) 2) In the books, Claire DOES operate on Lord John’s nephew, but it had nothing to do with her return. As you said, it was because of Henri Christian, who is also Leoghaire’s BIOLOGICAL grandson.. 3) In the book, the healer was a time traveling physician who produced blue light, like Master Raymond. It wasn’t Geilis. But she does appear….Buck knows who his parents are, because Roger TOLD him. 4) Roger met Geilis TWICE, at the university and later at a bar. He said his name was Roger WAKEFIELD. Hmm, I don’t recall if they meet in this time period. I read this a long time ago….but I thought Roger tried to avoid her. He did SEE her, maybe from afar? I just don’t recall. Anyway, I also loved the episode. But I can’t get used to the new Jenny. Argh. I kept closing my eyes in order to envision old Jenny! I loved the scene with the 2 Ians talking. Yes, of course, the new WEE Ian is his son! 😁

[@amritawhitman8112]

I haven't read the books so I found the information you shared here about some parts of the books vs how the series has adapted them very interesting! Thanks for sharing!

[@tlb1067]

I guess the reason Young Ian goes back doesn't bother me. The Lord John thing makes me crazy. I don't think they plan to go into the family story with Henre Christian. I found it to be one of the most tragic stories of the series. 😢

[@juliashehata2835]

My solution would have Rachel and Rollo sent to Scotland, stay at Lallybrach until Ian's passing. He could have spent time with the family. They could have had either Jamie go back with Claire or have a Kinsman ac ompany her to America, as Women were not supposed to travel alone.

[@cathieferro9028]

Didn't Bree send her a drawing of Young Ian somewhere in one of the books?

[@vickytucci]

Did you guys see Steven Cree in The Discovery of Witches? He was do hot there 😅

[@eschrad]

Gallowglass... 🔥😍

[@ladyactor2]

Jamie hair is not grey due to red heads don’t grey the same as dark hair! They tend to stay red and just add some grey but not much!!

[@claudiajones7724]

My husband is a ginger. 68 years old. He has grey in his red beard (My cinnamon and sugar man!), but his hair is still red. Yeah, so unfair! :)

[@jessicaseiden7222]

In echo, Ned was there

[@dorikragh1939]

Does anyone know if the actor playing Brian Fraser is the same one from season one? He looks like the same actor

[@jo9376]

Yes it is the same actor.

[@conniesandlin6712]

Yes, Andrew Whipp.

[@4UStevePerry]

Brian was played by the same actor. Andrew Whipp. When I first saw Brian I didn't recognize him I think he gained some weight since the first season. I love me some Ian Sr. too. I try to watch any Steven Cree work. I think he's then Sam. Ian died before Claire left in the books. Legwhore looked older in season 3-4. I agree with with Carol she tries to kill the both of them at least twice. She only wants his money. I think they deleted too many scenes with the Buck part.

[@conniesandlin6712]

1st - those comments about the cold open compressing 100s of pages and exposition and narrative into 2 minutes - those were from me. 😊 Nell Hudson brought depth to Laoghaire. She was great. I just about had time-jump whiplash from the edits/ cuts, but it was brilliant how they wove it all together. Kristin Atherton really captured the essence of Jenny. Loved her. Wigs: Jamie's was great! (Red hair tends to fade more than switch to gray.) Jenny's wigs (younger and older versions) were NOT great. Bad, in fact. Older Jenny's wig also should have had more gray. (But so should Claire's inconsistent wigs LJG's nephew storyline -100% medically implausible. That was the weakest part of the episode. Yuck. I realize the writers needed a plot device to get Claire back to Philadelphia. If she and JAMMF aren't separated, we wouldn't get to "Carnal Knowledge ", right? And we do want that! But, at least we will be spared Henri Christian's demise, I guess. How did Old Ian still have a tartan sash to wear? Wasn't the diskilting act still in effect in Great Britain? But, I was crying as I watched the Ians being parted for good. 😢 Geillis reveal at the end - I was SCREAMING "Oh my God ! Oh my God! Oh my God! Oh my God!" Great job, Outlander writers, director, and editors! Finally, it is soooo good to have y'all back and laugh with you and hear about Tom. Love you guys!!!!

[@Myoutlanderpurgatory]

So glad you revealed yourself-your comments about the cold open were brills!!

[@conniesandlin6712]

@@Myoutlanderpurgatory Thank you!

[@pollynolin3602]

Do you think they’ll include the storyline where we’ll see Tobias? He’s not in any of the trailers, but maybe they’re keeping it as a surprise.

[@Myoutlanderpurgatory]

My gut is saying no. I would fall off my chair if we saw him again, TBH.

[@Sisterwayne]

My sister had the same color hair as Jamie and it changed over her lifetime. Bright red as a child and then it went blond as she aged. That's very normal for redheads. They don't go grey. They go blonde. I actually think they are using Sam's natural hair now. Especially if you look around the hairline. It looks very natural. I was surprised you didn't discuss Jamie's comment about leaving the letters for Brianna at the Bank of Edinburgh. Did we ever find out how Bri and Roger got the letters?

[@Myoutlanderpurgatory]

I don' t think they came directly from the bank--weren't they all in a box in the Reverend's garage?

[@Sisterwayne]

@Myoutlanderpurgatory I forget. And I don't know if that was ever made clear. Did the bank in Edinburgh just archive them for centuries? How did Brianna end up with them at Lallybroch??? Maybe that will reveal itself. PS I was at Paoli Shopping Center today to pick up something for Thanksgiving. The hardware store closed!!

[@jamesleo5399]

At the beginning of S7Ep3 a delivery truck drops off the box of letters at the Reverend’s house and Fiona gives them to Roger & Bree when they arrive in Scotland. She said the chest had been stored at the bank vault for 200+ years! I can’t even get statements mailed to me anymore from my bank! 😅

[@Sisterwayne]

@jamesleo5399 Yes yes yes!! Thanks for reminding.

[@Myoutlanderpurgatory]

@@Sisterwayne I KNOW re: Paoli Hardware--was just talking about it with local friends last weekend!! We had actually heard this was happening--I guess the Scartozzis wanted to retire but couldn't find a buyer for the business. SO sad--I can't even tell you how much stuff we bought from that store....😥

[@mobiusstrip107]

I never understood the hate for Learie, sp?. She loved Jamie and was his wife. He was a jerk to her many times. It’s hard to just to get over it and forget. She knew and felt his emotional distance which really hurt her.

[@amritawhitman8112]

YES, Claire and Jamie could have reminded them about the time Claire advised them to plant potatoes and explain why she gave them that advice. That's just one of many examples of "mysterious" things that happened involving Jenny and Old Ian that could now be explained! As soon as family investments in France were mentioned, we all knew that Claire needed to warn them about the French Revolution, but how? Thank goodness they had the plot shift to the knocks on the door to distract us from how underwhelming that scene was. A few seasons ago it was very frustrating when Jamie persuaded Claire to NOT share her origins with Jenny and Ian when she wanted to share it, especially since he was her witness at Craigh Na Dun and could help her! Now, after everything that has happened, she also has Young Ian as her witness, but they didn't give him ANY lines to support her story! In my opinion this scene landed with a thud and could have been written much better than it was.

[@Myoutlanderpurgatory]

I guess there was just SO MUCH to get through in this ep, there was no way they could sort of sit and luxuriate in that scene a bit...

[@amritawhitman8112]

@@Myoutlanderpurgatory I don't think it was necessary to spend A LOT of time on the scene. I just think it was a missed opportunity. Even if, as you discussed, she just reminded them about the potatoes, as just one example and maybe add another example and then give Ian and Jamie a line or two to support her there would be more substance to that scene. If she explained how she went back to the future and became a surgeon, she could then remind them that's why she had the tools, experience and medicine to operate and save Jamie after Laoghaire shot him. Jenny urging her in another scene to go save Lord John's nephew would have made more sense than it did. Oh well!

[@judyholiday1794]

Hello everybody .

[@amritawhitman8112]

Thank you for doing this recap. While I know you both enjoy the series very much, it sounds like you might be more into the books than the series. Of course there's no harm in that, but listening to you I can see how some of the details might be blurry and confusing. #1. Yes, that was young Jenny, the same actress as older Jenny who rode up to Roger and her father Brian to tell Roger that his "kinsman, William MacKenzie was taken ill on his way to Lallybroch" and he asked for Roger. He asked for Roger because he knows Roger went to Lallybroch when they parted. Of course we don't know yet if he found Rob and Jemmy after he and Roger left Craigh Na Dun. If he did, maybe they fought, Jemmy ran away, and Buck (William) was wounded during the brawl....? #2. Remember the guy Roger and Brian were talking to before Jenny arrived on horseback? Brian introduced him to Roger as John Murray. When she arrived, John tells her that his son was not there if that's who she's looking for. Of course that would be Ian!! Remember Jamie, Jenny and Ian grew up together. However, the good news seems to be that Rob has been seen wandering around in 20th century clothing, so that explains why Roger and Buck arrived in this time period. Things we will learn in upcoming episodes 🍿 Question #1: Why did Rob go to this time period, which looks like it might be 1738 or so? The gold he's looking for hasn't even arrived in Scotland yet from France to support the Jacobite uprising which will start several years from this time period. Besides, Roger expected Rob and Jemmy would arrive in the time period they left and then travel to Fraser's Ridge to look for the gold. Question #2: Where's Jemmy? One of my favorite parts of S7E9: It was wild that Jenny told Roger they don't have a healer in the area but she directed him to the local herbalist, and who should open the door? Geillis Duncan! Even though I knew to expect her at some point in the season, when she opened the door I gasped and then I cracked up when Roger said "Oh Christ!" 🤣🤯😳 Of course he recognized her from when he met her in Scotland with Brianna at the pub, which happened after Brianna met her at the university. Brianna and Claire arrived at Craigh Na Dun just as she went through the stones. THAT'S what convinced both of them that Claire was telling the truth and this whole time traveling business is a real! And how wild is it that Buck is about to meet his mother? As we know, Dougal gave him as an infant to a couple in the MacKenzie clan and then helped her escape. Roger and Jemmy are their descendants! That might be the key to why they are in this time period and not 20+ years in the future. This story just gets wilder with every season! I love it!

[@eschrad]

It's actually another reason why Roger & Buck ended up in the time they did. I think this episode hinted at it, but it's subtle and easily missed by non-book readers... but I'm hoping it means they will include the reason in the show.

[@amritawhitman8112]

@@eschradI haven't read the books but by "It's actually another reason..." do you mean Roger and Buck have landed in this time period because they are meant to have some important encounters with their two ancestors, Geillis and Dougal, but not find Rob and Jemmy? The episode 10 teaser scenes with them and Geillis certainly look interesting! 😳😬 I just found some info posted on the Outlander Fandom Wiki about Rob from My Own Heart's Blood and An Echo In The Bone that is completely different from what we've been led to believe has happened in both episodes 708 and 709! Apparently neither Rob nor Jemmy have traveled to the 18th century and Rob has locked Jemmy up in the tunnel where Brianna was locked up when he and the crew pulled that hazing stunt. Again, the episode 10 teaser makes sense then. Then I wonder who is the "fairy man" dressed in modern clothes? Is it Friday night yet?🤣😂

[@eschrad]

@@amritawhitman8112 🤐

[@amritawhitman8112]

@@eschrad No worries because my questions were basically meant to be somewhat rhetorical! 🤣 I think I pretty much answered my own question. Of course when it comes to the series, book readers should expect the unexpected as it's simply not possible to include everything Diana G. wrote! I'm looking forward to Friday!

[@ladyactor2]

Jamie was so reserved in this episode! He and Claire are not as romantic returning to Lolibrock! You think since it had been so long they would relive some moments! They seemed so disconnected

[@MONIQUEPLUTON]

ah ah

[@eschrad]

The other disappointing reason that they made Lord John's nephew the reason for Claire going back instead of the book reason of her grandson, Henri-Christian, needing her... is that in the book Laoghaire determines she has to humble herself and go hat-in-hand to Claire and bribe her to return to save HER (Laoghaire's) grandson, not comprehending that H-C is also Claire's grandson and Claire would do anything to help him, no graveling from Laoghaire needed. The bribe Laoghaire offers is that, in exchange for Claire's help, she will marry Joey and release Jamie from the alimony payments. So even though Joan did go to Jamie in the books for his help, it's not Jamie working out that Laoghaire could keep Balriggan that convinces her to marry Joey (who is not a dwarf, but has one leg shorter than the other and a twisted spine... scoliosis, maybe?)... it's her offer to Claire to do so in exchange for helping H-C that resolves things. Laoghaire never would have given up those alimony payments otherwise. Claire keeps the fact that she would have helped H-C in any case to herself and gets one over on Laoghaire/relieves Jamie of the alimony (basically blackmail) payments in one move.

[@Myoutlanderpurgatory]

That's right--totally forgot all of that!

[@joan4115]

As for the hair color..... I was told that red haired people do not turn a gray. Their hair turns lighter and ends up looking blond.

[@amritawhitman8112]

I have redheads in my family and their hair did turn gray but much, much later in their lives, and very gradually. The wig they're using for Jamie looks about right to me. His hair is no where near as red as it was when he was younger and that's because the color is gradually changing as he gets older.

[@eschrad]

Yes, my family has a boatload of redheads. My brother's hair has at times looked less red when his strands were cut shorter (military school buzz cut) vs. when it has grown out. (And was very coppery again in his 20s when he grew his hair long for Locks of Love.) As they age, the red loses its vibrancy... the coppery red fades to a duller red that can appear more ruddy brown when not in the sun. And then it eventually lightens as individual strands lose their pigment and become white and mix with the still pigmented strands, giving a sandy or strawberry blond appearance. Eventually , it just becomes white, not gray. Redheads who spend a lot of time in the sun without a hat or other SPF protection will also dull their red quicker.

[@joan4115]

Lord John's nephew had 2 balls in his abdomen. These balls would have ripped through the bowel and stool would be in the abdominal cavity. The cavity and other organs would be severely damaged and badly infected. Clare would take too long to cross the ocean to save the nephew. Plus she would have to have antibiotics. If she was there when the abdominal wall had been compromised; she possibly could have saved him by removing the balls and cleaning out the abdomen to get the stool out of the belly. Really there is no hope of saving him!!! 😓