OUTLAW HALF NOTTINGHAM - Race Day

[@donaldbrooks6309]

Great race recap & thanks for keeping it honest. It was an honour to be able to race with you guys 👍

[@Harry-Palmer]

Thanks mate! Great racing with you! Hopefully see you at another one soon

[@zac1672]

Racing alongside some big names. 4th is great well done Harry👏👏👏

[@Harry-Palmer]

Thanks John 👊🏻

[@ironmantooltime]

Respect for stopping "he wasn't dead" 😂

[@Harry-Palmer]

Haha thanks mate

[@matthewyaquinto4662]

Well done, Harry! Onwards to the next race!

[@mlegrand]

I'm only here to see Dan but dude, you had a really solid race there. Solid overall time on a hard day. I think all of these longer races tend to favor being patient and aiming to negative split the run. The good news is you're super fit and you've got the legs to beat some serious super stars in the next few races. 🤩

[@Josh_lewis]

Great vid mate and thanks for the shout outs. Agree with all the points and was going to make the same statement about the rolling starts! ... That stomach though... fair play for not stopping! Hopefully catch you soon

[@Harry-Palmer]

Thanks pal was mega to race with you. Haha fingers crossed it’s all good next time 😂 catch up with you soon 👍🏻

[@bjones319]

Well done Harry! It was me who said hi to you in T1 on race morning - really enjoy watching your KZbin videos! 👍🏻

[@Harry-Palmer]

Ahhh thanks so much for stopping and saying hi 👍 Hope you had a great race

[@stevendaddyrue8026]

Great race and congrats on 10K Subs. No stopping you now. Well played

[@Harry-Palmer]

Haha thanks Steven 👊🏻

[@stevendaddyrue8026]

@@Harry-Palmer if you could have just beat Tim Don then you would be my hero maybe next time, after all time is on your side!!!

[@edcochrane4586]

Great result! You are an Inspiration, keep it up and I look forward to seeing your results in races to come.

[@Harry-Palmer]

Thanks so much Ed

[@TriToBeIron]

Great race de-brief dude. Was looking forward to this video and shame I missed you on the Saturday! I think you had a great race and you were up against it with some top guys.

[@Harry-Palmer]

Sorry I missed you mate . Hope you had a great race too and hope to see you at another one soon

[@lewbur7926]

I didn’t think triathlon Dan had arms! Cracking effort mate, I’ve no idea how you move that quick!⚡️

[@Harry-Palmer]

hahaha thanks pal

[@hannaharentz6155]

Thanks for checking Finn was still alive! Nice to meet you on Sunday. Hannah

[@Harry-Palmer]

It was the least I could do, hope he's recovering ok. Great to meet you and the family

[@MatthewBell0310]

Just found the channel, class content and class racing!

[@Harry-Palmer]

Thanks so much Mathew 👊🏻

[@megmactri]

Totally agree with mass start

[@Harry-Palmer]

Yeah hard to know where you are isn’t it. Hope you are recovering well, great result 👍🏻

[@scottbass2881]

Well done for stopping Harry. Many others wouldn't. You can take many positives from this race. Mentally to keep going, next time you feel like you're not sure if you can keep going in a race, you'll remember Outlaw half, how much worse your felt then, how you did keep going and how you only just missed out. The staggered starts do make it harder to know where you are in a race but like you say there were other factors at play. You had stop, you weren't able to gauge your race position properly, you didn't fuel properly because you had stomach problems, take those things out of the equation and you would have likely been top 3. Knowing this shows you that your pro licence will happen and come again. Well done mate, keep going.

[@Harry-Palmer]

Thanks so much for this comment and support Scott! Really does mean a lot

[@GogglesTyresandTrainers]

Great sportsmanship on checking on Finn. Awesome effort Harry, looked like a really competitive field. You'll get that first age grouper at the next one mate 😀

[@Harry-Palmer]

Thanks mate really appreciate that

[@ManTonyBig]

100% done with time trial starts. Solid performance

[@Harry-Palmer]

Me too Tony! Thanks mate

[@miguelowd]

Ayee congrats on the 10k man, keep up the great content

[@Harry-Palmer]

Thanks so much for the support

[@1dalehardiman]

Solid work!

[@Harry-Palmer]

Thanks mate

[@jacobmason412]

Solid performance man, really helpful info, I'm sure you're gonna smash the next one as well, congrats on 10K btw.

[@Harry-Palmer]

Thanks so much Jacob really appreciate it

[@BenjisBoxingChannel]

Absolutely brilliant! I'm doing Stafford 70.3 in just over three weeks, this is great motivation. Keep up the great work!

[@Harry-Palmer]

Thanks pal! Best of luck for the race

[@BenjisBoxingChannel]

@@Harry-Palmer can you wear my timing chip and do it for me please? I'll be at the nearest 5 guys if needed.

[@Harry-Palmer]

@@BenjisBoxingChannel hahaha buy me a coffee and yeah you got a deal 😂

[@ethancarre561]

Awesome work! :) Almost at 10k mate keep going 💪🏻💪🏻

[@Harry-Palmer]

Thanks so much Ethan 👊🏻

[@TriathlonDan]

Best intro ever. Great performance mate, plenty of things to work on for next time... oh wait it’s 10 days away 😆

[@Harry-Palmer]

hahaha maybe not as much time as i'd lke 😂

[@MC-gf7nt]

Smashed it! Well done

[@Harry-Palmer]

Thanks dude

[@handicapcrippin8243]

Grats on 10k

[@Harry-Palmer]

Thanks mate

[@markmcfadden7428]

Congrats on a solid race

[@Harry-Palmer]

Thanks Mark

[@ashleybrookes86]

Must have been cool to race against Tim Don (World Triathlon Series Champion, GB Olympic Triathlete) and all round funny awesome guy! Take it steady and you'll be in prime fitness for the next one.

[@Harry-Palmer]

Yeah it was mad to be on the start line with him. Thanks Ashley!

[@mattmckee6145]

Well done mate 👏

[@Harry-Palmer]

Thanks Matt

[@lorevalo5599]

Amazing race!

[@Harry-Palmer]

Thanks

[@ejquezad]

4th place. Good job!!! I'm already subscribed so I can't help you there.

[@Harry-Palmer]

Thanks so much pal

[@BobBob-uv9fq]

Cool bought a pass for Edinburgh commonwealth pool ,double /treble days ,using commonwealth pool ,50 m 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿😀

[@Harry-Palmer]

Nice!!

[@BobBob-uv9fq]

Did 20 lengths today ,endurance type thing ,after cycle rely fairly comfortable

[@BobBob-uv9fq]

Really so focussed on my training ,doing half hour skipping ,pool again ,then cycle ,feeling great 👍tomorrow

[@BobBob-uv9fq]

Ps been looking at a bmw 310 r brand new motorcycle 100 £ a month 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿😀💀

[@BobBob-uv9fq]

Been really consistent this year ,doing more low impact ,really getting fun from skipping. Now that I can do it ,big improvement since January

[@sarahgerk]

Dan!!!!!

[@Harry-Palmer]

Hahaha 😂

[@TomKroupa80]

Great effort, great race, great result! Congrats! I probably missed the video where you explain the criteria for getting the pro-license. I apologize for it :-). And I am curious now. What exactly are the criteria? Be on the podium, be the first age-grouper or both? Are there other criteria? Can you get it only in selected races, and in that case in which ones? Will you get some support from the UK triathlon governing body? What are the advantages of having a pro-license in the UK? I assume that it is different for each country.

[@Harry-Palmer]

Hi Thomas. So you have to be on the podium and the first age grouper at these events which are called ‘gateway events’ but at Ironman events where there are pro fields you have to get 2 races where you finish within 4% I believe. I won’t lie it all still confuses me 😂 I think I’m the UK it’s pretty much the hardest to get a pro license, I’ve heard in other nations you can just email the governing body and they hand them out 😂🤦🏼‍♂️

[@heikkisanelma6625]

Damn, you'd have totally got the dub for it if normal mass start mate! Amazing effort! Come race finland first thing after pro carded again to bank some dough ;) and for epic training camp! :D

[@Harry-Palmer]

Thanks so much mate honestly can’t wait to get back there

[@itzdjdannyb]

Great shift you put in Harry! Last weekend was my first ever Triathlon, with a respectable time of 5.30hr when I was training for a sub 6hr. Can you care to explain what you mean by riding in a group (with surges) when the race was draft illegal? Surely being 10/12m back behind riders you don't get the advantage of draft, or do you find they help to pace the ride even faster for you? Thanks!

[@Harry-Palmer]

Thanks! Ahh that's a mega time!! Well done. Yeah so of course it is draft illegal but even with a 12m gap there is still a bit of an advantage. If the group is big then every rider back gets more and more of an advantage so there is definitely a benefit to being in groups. Unfortunately the faster riders try to surge away and break it down but not all riders are willing to put in turns and then that leads to frustration. This is why Lionel Saunders and Sam Long are both advocates for a 20m draft rule so that the faster riders can actually break away

[@leewalters2794]

Yeah, the TT starts are necessary, but it does really affect the dynamic. Still, it is what it is. The club who run my local time trials contact the highways agency to fix potholes, so presumably Outlaw can do the same - it's been a long standing issue. Still, did look an awesome event. How did you front bottle cage work out?

[@neilianparker6487]

It wasn’t just Andrew that had thought he’d won, Outlaw posted a video of him crossing the finish line announcing that Andrew was the winner, they took it down about 5mins later …..Doh 🤦🏻‍♂️ was funny because on the tracker we could see that Josh was leading…haha

[@Harry-Palmer]

Hahaha see it just doesn’t really make sense does it 😂😂

[@neilianparker6487]

@@Harry-Palmer totally agree, if footballers can all okay a contact sport together and thousands of spectators can sit together watching the game in a stadium then surely an OW mass start is possible 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Harry-Palmer]

@@neilianparker6487 haha very good point

[@wolfprince4062]

So... When's the next race? Also if you are running a 1:16 half marathon during a Half Ironman what's your time when you are just running the half? (really interested in the answer)

[@Harry-Palmer]

Next one is next weekend (4th July) at Holkham hall. It’s another outlaw event and another chance at the pro license. Yeah was a bit gutted with the 1:16 off the bike as I know if I paced it correctly I should have got sub 1:15. Stand alone PB is 1:11

[@heikkisanelma6625]

9,95k subbies, might as well do few dozen extra users here to get it over the line! caman folks!

[@Harry-Palmer]

Haha so close

[@neilianparker6487]

Get some fake tan on that chest Harry or take the T shirt off when the sun’s out 😂😂 Great race 💪🏼

[@Harry-Palmer]

Hahaha so white 😂😂

[@neilianparker6487]

Yep Harry

[@darrenowen3797]

Still did very well pal

[@Harry-Palmer]

Thanks Darren

[@anguscrawford9665]

Do you ever have digestive issues on non-race days?

[@Harry-Palmer]

Yeah I do occasionally which is really frustrating

[@anguscrawford9665]

@@Harry-Palmer any tips?

[@wimvdputte]

For most of the AG athletes a rolling start is a far better option, but I agree that for pro athletes it should be a group start.

[@Harry-Palmer]

Yeah absolutely agree with you there

[@bonn1771]

The surges hurts the most in any of the sport

[@neilianparker6487]

You didn’t mention how this race effected gaining your Pro license again as I see that with Andrew coming second he was given his Pro license, did you need to be the fastest non Pro? Or can you stay lol use this result and another to achieve the pro license???

[@Harry-Palmer]

yeah unfortunately you need to be on the podium and the fastest age grouper which andrew was. He fully deserves the licesne 👍

[@neilianparker6487]

@@Harry-Palmer yeah fair play to him, always the next race buddy 🤞

[@Harry-Palmer]

@@neilianparker6487 Thanks mate

[@tomepton4317]

Rolling starts are a load of crap I agree. They need to go as soon as possible. Ruins racing completely.

[@Harry-Palmer]

Yeah bang on with that Tom 👍🏻

[@tomepton4317]

@@Harry-Palmer See you at Holkham?

[@maxafc4695]

How can you have a draft legal race with a staggered start, that doesn't make any sense!

[@Harry-Palmer]

It was draft illegal 👍

[@gaelchouchelamane7583]

So the young stud couldn't beat the ancient Tim Don (he's quite fast for a 43 year old guy to put it mildly) - anyway let's not dwell on this and focus on what's important. Firstly, you won the KZbin battle between you and Triathlon Dan on the bike course which is what really matters (your pride is still intact there :P) - Also, does this 4th place bring you closer to turning pro? or you need the podium for this?

[@Harry-Palmer]

Haha true that was my only goal for the race 😂😂 unfortunately that doesn’t give me the criteria for the pro license. I needed for finish on the podium and be the first age grouper so the pro license went to Andrew which he very much deserves 👍🏻

[@gaelchouchelamane7583]

@@Harry-Palmer that's a shame wrt pro license, however, your performance should give you enough confidence that it is just around the corner so keep at it, you're nearly there. Agreed congrats to Andrew for his performance and to Josh as well (let's not say anything about Tim, except maybe he should retire and leave the spot to the younger guns :P)

[@Harry-Palmer]

@@gaelchouchelamane7583 yeah absolutely I’m hoping for another good result in a few weeks so we shall see. Hahah 😂