After watching all the charging issues with your Mach-E road trip, it's somewhat reassuring to watch this video from a few months earlier to see that constant charging issues are not inevitable with all non-Tesla EVs.
@markmcintosh70953 жыл бұрын
My wife is getting her first EV and your channel is very helpful.
@greggb6814 жыл бұрын
Hey Kyle, I just wanted to say how much I LOVE your channel! Keep up the amazing work
@OutofSpecMotoring4 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks!
@justaintcare4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your videos man. I stumbled across your channel when I wanted to find out what an EV road trip would be like and you did a great job demonstrating that. We bought a model 3 and love it!
@natehill80693 жыл бұрын
There is an EA station at Walmart about 10 miles east of the "Dayton" Supercharger. I have never seen anybody there. I dont use it, because a Volt can generate its own electricity from gasoline cheaper than 31c/kWh.
@caseydonahue31234 жыл бұрын
Great video! love to see how Audi is coming along and how the Etron handles long trips.
@abhishekgaikwad61054 жыл бұрын
I am from India and I am shocked you guys have too many charging point and we even don't how it's work and you guys are so lucky you have those empty and good roads
@kriso69113 жыл бұрын
I'm taking my E-tron on a road trip from Chicago to Denver in a few weeks. Thanks for this video using it as a study guide! haha. I'm super nervous!!
@markguggenheim82384 жыл бұрын
I agree with your ETron cons...efficiency is even a lot worse as it starts getting colder out. That said I still love the car!
@nevco87744 жыл бұрын
There is no way the second generation of Audi Etron to not get better efficiency and less thirstiness.
@genyosai4 жыл бұрын
My wife and I just got back from a 2700mi road trip in the vehicle (South Carolina to Texas). Easy, flawless, quiet, comfortable, inexpensive trip without any range/charging issues save for a very minor issue at the EA in East Point, GA (just have to use stall #4). Averaged 390wh/mi for the trip with an average speed over 2700mi of 63mph. High, but I had some Twitter folks tell me during the trip that their X is about the same. I don't know. EA has gotten so much better that now I just do what the route planner says rather than safety-charge to 100% at every stop due to prior EA uncertainties. I've thrown caution to the wind as far as managing efficiency as well (used to watch my speed, watch climate controls, etc.), again because EA is improving so rapidly since June. After this trip, we're more in love with this vehicle. Thought I might sell it a couple months ago, but that's a huge negative right now. We just turned 20,000mi on it in less than 5mo ownership, so unless the vehicle starts to have reliability issues I'm pretty sure we're keeping it at least until the Q4 e-tron (MEB platform) and e-tron GT is released. There are things i prefer from our Tesla as well as things I prefer from our Audi, for of course each brand has their own sets of strengths and weaknesses. Wish some of these prefered qualities could be found in a single EV. Right now, for us at least, no such car exists. That said, however, if we had to choose between our Tesla and Audi, we're more inclined to keep the Audi based on what we deem valuable in our road-trip vehicles. We're headed from South Carolina to Scottsdale, AZ in the e-tron next... Sometime first of next year if my wife can work it out on her end. Can't wait. This Texas trip was such a pleasure.
@bavariancarenthusiast27224 жыл бұрын
@@genyosai thank you Nicholas for your comment - you have both a Tesla and an Audi which is really rare!
@jonpetter89214 жыл бұрын
@Mark Guggenheim The new E tron Q4 will be very good in efficiency and range an will compete with Model Y and ID 4 as well as Skoda enyac (only europe)
@genyosai4 жыл бұрын
@@bavariancarenthusiast2722 Yes. I just love cars/car tech, and wish to experience as much as I can. The e-tron featured in this video is mine, btw 🙂
@-cml-schoff4848 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. I'm buying a 2021 Prestige in the coming weeks and this was a good watch. I commute 65 daily round trip for work. I think this is going to be perfect.
@robertbaxter26844 жыл бұрын
Hi Kyle - great video. I have been waiting for your e-tron road trip. Love that car. Glad to hear your thoughts about it. It is a beast. Think, however, I would like to see ID4 and Audi Q4 e-tron first. More my size. Being in the 60+ age group ride quality - including quietness - is important to me. Sounds like the Audi excels there. I believe you said the ID4 was quiet and smooth too. One bit of data you may add to your video's - especially when you go off the beaten path - like this one - is how many miles it would have been in a ICE car vs what you ended up doing in a electric car having to follow the charger route. Thanks - love your stuff.
@fullyelectric4 жыл бұрын
Kyle, you can adjust the Audi planner, you can uncheck level 2 and only leave fast chargers and HPC only so you get 50-350kW chargers only .. my wife been driving her eTron so hard her GOM shows like 170 miles as well .. she also uses EA there is like 3 location around our area she has been using the Free EA charging that came from Audi .. As for chargers being down that issue affects every charging network, including Tesla, some area the chargers just seems more reliable than others, but if you check the Tesla around me today you will see 2 units out of 12 still down .. but yeah Tesla does have more plugs but the power is also shared and the SC by me most people I talk to their don’t even have a house and they use the SC once or twice a week, the SC is always pack however no one like to share charger so out of the 10 working plugs only 5 normally charging.. so having more plugs sometimes don’t mean much if you don’t want to share .. Also we did a 750 mile trip with the eTron driving the same route as we did in our old Model X and the trip in the eTron was quicker overall, so truly I don’t get the big deal others talk about on the eTron range .. faster charging for the win! Kyle once again truly great 👍 content... more please!
@nevco87744 жыл бұрын
Can you share your family reason to switch from Model X to Etron? Thanks.
@fullyelectric4 жыл бұрын
@@nevco8774 Well to be fair the performance was amazing the first few months showing off to friends and family, however the many issues with the air ride system, rear door sensors, panel gap alignment, snow and build up rain getting in the car when the rear door is open, the design of the rain/water guide needs redesign, going to service for so many issues since the car was new some never got fix or can’t be ... noise starting to come from the rear motor was the last straw.. for the cost was the worst experience vs the Mercedes the model X had replace .. and I won’t even mention FSD we paid for that we never gotten .. however if we ignore all the quality issues ... the car had amazing performance and we got allot of looks from people every time we open up the rear doors .. but sometimes we had wish the rear doors was normal tho..
@Wasabi91114 жыл бұрын
I’m thinking of getting an EV because I want the ultimate relaxation/isolation car. How quiet is the model x on the hwy? Recently test drove the model y and it was very quiet on local roads. But once I got onto the hwy, the road and wind noise was really loud. The etron seems to be extremely quiet - I wonder if the Model X is any better. Thanks.
@jonpetter89214 жыл бұрын
@@Wasabi9111 Model X or any Tesla models are not on the level tof he comfort and quiteness of the EV models from Audi: one of the reason E tron is the most popular SUV EV here in Europe. Model X has the edge on range but Audi win in build quality and thier tech is amazing. E tron Q4 is a more effiecient with great range with all the Audi features. It will come next year.
@KekszNET4 жыл бұрын
@@Wasabi9111 I wouldnt buy the Model X. Maybe after there is a facelift version from it, instead go with the Model Y, or the new tesla model 3, if it has enough space for you
@jcflippen15524 жыл бұрын
Love your road trips although not an EV owner yet.
@atlmz64 жыл бұрын
I was so damn happy when it rained so it could wash off the bug guts off the windshield 😂
@clementmussotte63844 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you come to Europe and try 'our' cars: Peugeot e208, Renault Zoé, Volkswagen ID3,...
@OutofSpecMotoring4 жыл бұрын
As soon as it's safe and borders are open! - Kyle
@nevco87744 жыл бұрын
@@OutofSpecMotoring In 80-ties Mercedes Benz lobbied US congress to prohibit gray imports of cars from Europe. Maybe it is time to lobby the ability to import new EVs from Europe if they are not officially sold in the USA?
@mcjhd25674 жыл бұрын
The Audi e tron is produced in Belgium , brussels so it is defenitely european haha.
@jonpetter89214 жыл бұрын
@@mcjhd2567 But you can buy E tron in the US, but not e208, Zoe or the ID3
@mcjhd25674 жыл бұрын
@@jonpetter8921 the id3 will come soon probably haha
@cadriver25704 жыл бұрын
Absolutely could be a faster road tripper than many Teslas, but the EA infrastructure sucks hard. I just did 2000 miles and all but 2-3 stops had issues.
@DerBlauzahn4 жыл бұрын
Really nice video! Greetings from germany (e-tron & ioniq electric owner)!
@jwhdesign2 жыл бұрын
Cool to see you drove to Dobson and up I-77 to VA. Beautiful drive up the mountain
@terrishamblin81133 жыл бұрын
I have the same attitude about travel........relax and enjoy the ride. So stopping to charge doesn't sound like too much of a hassle. But I can envision my husband having a heart attack. His main travel goal is "see how fast I can make it". I want an EV but fear he will not do well on road trips! We don't do many but they do happen occasionally!
@slee41103 жыл бұрын
Same here. Seriously looking at the Tesla MY. Had always admired the Audi Q5 but really want to go EV. Tesla’s greater range and faster more available charging stations are probably the most my SO could tolerate in road tripping with an EV.
@petesjk4 жыл бұрын
Has Audi updated the software since this video? How often does Audi provide a software update, and how is it administered?
@AsbjrnEliassen4 жыл бұрын
I'd love that button to stop and release on my model 3.
@d7mysterio74 жыл бұрын
Great video Boss. I personally love the eTron. I think it's a great EV. Looking forward to your next video on the eTron. Were you using the seat massagers all the way from start to finish of your trip?
@JeanPierreWhite4 жыл бұрын
Complimentary charge makes EA like a supercharger!! Plug and charge!
@michaelholliday1003 жыл бұрын
As a Model Y owner the Electrify America, if you can get them to work, are so... slow...
@jeremiahsimon65944 жыл бұрын
Nobody does a better full review. I have no idea why you guys don't have more subscribers across your platforms.
@sadaghian4 жыл бұрын
I honestly do not understand it either
@codyrife3 жыл бұрын
I’ve spent so much time at the Bristol, VA location! It’s never busy there! Love your reviews!
@jakobwidmaier72463 жыл бұрын
Haha I loved the part where the gas station staff didn't even know about the charger
@TamekiaPratt3 ай бұрын
Nc native here! My 19 e-tron drive to Raleigh is so smooth on comfort! lol
@vedups55702 жыл бұрын
crazy and most satisfying review I've ever viewed, thank you so much, plz upload some extra info you experience.
@JonatanCastro-secondary2 жыл бұрын
Would be so cool to have a dB meter when doing roadtrips so we can see the amount of noise each cars produces on same or similar route inside the cabin!
@Bastoto4 жыл бұрын
This is my first non-tesla roadtrip KZbin video
@jordanjohnson57843 жыл бұрын
Man those free charging stations are sweet.. big time score IMO (based on what you said in the video... Something like $30-33 for a full charge at one of the stations you were looking up 😳)
@drjaye19624 жыл бұрын
thx 4 the vid...i respect your opinion and viewpoint, u have the ability 2 see great things about many diff electric cars...great job...peace
@gerhardk983 жыл бұрын
I have thought about the kWh versus time pricing structure and think time is better even if it punishes me for having a Leaf that charges at the slow end of the scale. My thinking is there are limited number of chargers so it is better to encourage people to unplug once they are past the efficient part of their cars charging curve allowing quicker turnover of the charger.
@hamfish2253 жыл бұрын
In New Zealand our rapid charger network charges 25 NZ cents per kWh and 25 cents per minute at 50kw chargers, the per minute charge halves at the 25kw chargers and at hyper chargers i think its just a flat 60 cents per kWh. Always interesting to see pricing differences.
@502flexlex63 жыл бұрын
Cheers from my hometown of Louisville, hope you liked our little city!!
@briannissen82892 жыл бұрын
I have the same 2019 Tesla Model 3 and 2nd EV 2022 Audi E Tron combination. In my shorter drives to LV from California desert had many of the same comparative experiences.
@simonnilsson53563 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Just signed on for an etron yesterday. Now I am doing research to find out what I am getting lol
@grimmdeath0112 жыл бұрын
It's good to see actual trip videos on ev cars, now we only need the inferstructor 8n australia
@xandao67774 жыл бұрын
Let's gooo i love the roadtrips
@victorvek52277 ай бұрын
Loving the Clemson headrest covers. Go Tigers!
@williamkudirka24222 жыл бұрын
With all the road construction and repair going on and much more ahead, detours and delays create a big headache. And, if there is an accident, might as well park on the shoulder and wait for a Greyhound. Wish you could keep your hands on the wheel while driving.
@TheBrown54 жыл бұрын
I would love to see that car. I'm literally right across the river from Louisville. New albany indiana
@rationalistinanev4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for a great video, a roadtrip in a time of lockdown. I wish my tesla had a CCS1 adapter.
@francescoboselli60334 жыл бұрын
Maybe Tesla in the future will use CCS combo 2 as standard, also in USA
@rogeriogomesosorio47553 жыл бұрын
200 miles is kind of a short range for such an expensive car... on my kona I get 230 easily and is half of the price.
@TheFresh8313 жыл бұрын
Agreeded, I get 160 miles of my vw egolf that cost $25k. The EPA on my egolf is 125 but I’m averaging 160-165.
@cadriver25704 жыл бұрын
Kyle are you noticing any booming sounds while driving on mildly imperfect roads? I hear super low frequencies in mine and it really bothers my ears.
@rantingcullinarian4 жыл бұрын
There are plenty of people who don’t even know electric cars exist... and even more who know they exist but think they’re either extremely expensive or just glorified golf carts. Especially in rural America.
@rantingcullinarian4 жыл бұрын
@@shaharzeevstorch3516 Sure, which will likely be laughed at by most rural midwesterners. Lol
@jonpetter89214 жыл бұрын
The US is so big. I think you would have similar anecdote in a rural place in Russia lol
@kens97sto1714 жыл бұрын
Well that's actually mostly true. They ARE extremely expensive by most people's standards Tesla, Audi, etc or they are sort of golf carts Smart EV, the new Kandi, the Bolt EV is nice but considered small by most people's standards. People in Rural America tend to be cautious, and careful. They don't jump on bandwagons first. Also more of them need range, and towing and cargo. Which limits what cars they consider useful and practical to them. There is a reason why they like pickups .. they do anything and everything.
@rantingcullinarian4 жыл бұрын
@@kens97sto171 True!
@JeanPierreWhite4 жыл бұрын
What charger? That is amazing, did they not notice the construction activity when it was being put in? Did you pick up five gallons of oil at Exxon when you got the oil change reminder? Look forward to the oil change video!
@larryspiller154 жыл бұрын
Should do a side by side roadtrip at the same time with the model Y to compare. That has dual pane glass now too but obviously will be louder then the etron still. You say the range difference is so little but I have a feeling its more then you alluded to, only one way to tell, test same day same time same road.
@OutofSpecMotoring4 жыл бұрын
Great idea!
@cadriver25704 жыл бұрын
e-tron suspension is a bit boomy, curious to hear how Model Y compares.
@MrKlawUK3 жыл бұрын
if you check eg TeslaBjorn’s 1000km tests, there probably wouldn’t be a big difference between the two. Audi would stop more often but charge faster. Apart from comparing purely for the stats, I doubt the difference would be meaningful for a real user that wasn’t doing A:B comparisons
@larryspiller153 жыл бұрын
@@MrKlawUK mkay
@commanderroddi77424 жыл бұрын
So, I like the Etron. cool car, and i do agree with what you say that electricity doesn't have to be cheaper than gasoline (although this would be a motivator for people to upgrade, and wth the price of electricity as utility in home charging, solar power, this would be a great car); for road trips, Etron kinda sucks despite is great charging capacity and range. I would be about $31 for about 151 miles on electricity on an eTRON. a gasoline powered Audi Q7 (slightly larger car) woudl cost about $15 at today's average fuel price, and I could go 300 miles on said Q7. If you take a hybrid Q5 (another car I'm considering, but its smaller than the eTron) woudl cost about $12 for 151 miles and you could go almost 390 miles on that car for the same $31 price! so, when you take a cross country trip you'd end up paying twice as much or even more with an etron. Great road tripping car as far as charging and range, but sonsumption is WAY MORE EXPENSIVE than gas. See, I'm looking for a electric vehicle. But I need cargo capacity, so Etron is the most tempting out of the current bunch becasue is has a very useable cargo space with its square (albeit less aerodynamic shape). I wouldn't mind Model Y or iPace, but iPace too expensive (though so is Etron) and both model Y and ipace are too small for my needs. I don't care for model X that much, and that is even more expensive. so, I end up looking at cars like a hybrid Volvo SUV or a truck (Hummer EV? Cybertruck its not for me... :) ) Point is, I'd take enough road trips where I'd have to end up getting a second vehicle and even a Ford $-150 with the V6 Ecoboost would be a cheaper car for longer trips.... yeah. an F-15 would be similar MPG on road as a Q7.....
@anttiranki36903 жыл бұрын
take a look at the Merc EQC. It's still hungry but quite a bit better than the Audi. Check Bjorn Nyland here on youtube. He does an absolutely stellar job of reviewing EV's.
@petegalindez99613 жыл бұрын
I understood the difference between charging by Kw v. Minute is a state law thing. That is, some states only allow states that are energy providers to charge by the Kw, otherwise you must charge by the minute (or some time unit). Not sure if it works in reverse, i.e., you can charge by minute anywhere. BTW, I currently own a TESLA Model 3 LR AWD (2019 model). Looking to sell it to try out another EV. I take monthly trips to my parents’ house in upstate NY from Virginia Beach. I’m looking to up the comfort factor and love Audis. I traded my 2017 Audi Q7 to get the Model 3. Wanted to get the e-tron when they first came out, but they had some initial pains in the beginning with the charging cables and fires, so they stopped sales for a bit. I wound up going with the Tesla. Can you discuss more about your comparison between the Tesla and Audi on long trips; likes/dislikes? Thanks!
@mattahmann4 жыл бұрын
This just makes me more convinced that I'm staying with an ice unless it's Tesla for at least 5 years. There's a general attitude of ev drivers to accept major inconveniences and well as extremely higher cost at these fast chargers.
@user-tb7rn1il3q3 жыл бұрын
Things are changing fast. I am staying with my ICEVs for now, but I won’t be buying anymore new ICEVs. In 5 years EVs will have better range than ICEVs and large “gas” stations will have fast chargers.
@mattahmann3 жыл бұрын
@@user-tb7rn1il3q update: I ordered a Tesla. It's really the only viable ev for someone wanting to do road trips right now. Electrify America is more expensive than gas.
@BillAnt3 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, as long as you have to "plan your road trip" with charging stations in mind, e-vehicles are not yet ready for prime time, though they're fine city use. I rather go with a hybrid for now, which gives me a piece of mind of not getting stranded somewhere in the mountains while on a vacation. Also the myth that electricity in the US is a clean energy source is false, since most electricity is still being generated by "dirty" means, because idiot politicians are afraid of nuclear energy, which statistically happens to be the safest, most efficient, and economical of then all.
@mattahmann3 жыл бұрын
@@BillAnt a big source of electricity in the United States is natural gas and it is a lot better for the environment than petroleum.
@BillAnt3 жыл бұрын
@@mattahmann < Unfortunately there's still a lot coal being burned, and the wind turbines aren't as environmental friendly as most people think. They are expensive, need a lot of maintenance, kills a lot of birds, and the more we put up it will change the environment due to slowing down the air stream.
@Jeff-wb3hh3 жыл бұрын
Please just remember that this Audi E-Tron is an ultra premium car with a base starting price of $65,900, so it better work as well as it did with it's fast charging rate. Most people can't afford a 65,900 EV car.
@hoozthair60763 жыл бұрын
A great life for those who have absolutely nothing to do.
@stevenbeall96375 ай бұрын
You mean like watching youtube videos like this?
@kens97sto1714 жыл бұрын
Great review as always do you ever try and use "A Better Route Planner" It might be interesting to see how that works and let it navigate and Link in with the vehicle which I think it's possible to do over an OBD2 Bluetooth. Keep up the great work
@shadowharu3 жыл бұрын
Nice headrest covers. Greetings from Clemson, SC :)
@tominftlthomasp35593 жыл бұрын
Wonder about the Audi’s reliability for long term. Looks like pure quality.
@markfitzpatrick66924 жыл бұрын
I love the etron
@michaelo83044 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the video!
@hw53411 ай бұрын
I decided on one of these as my second car instead of a model X. Both these cars have dropped dramatically in price. Feb 24 when I am writing this. I got a white prestige plus 2019 with 47k miles for $27k. Truly a beautiful car, and a steal for the quality in it. I saw plenty online for 23k-24k with more miles.
@Russ1133 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this video so much.
@randyvanvliet2263 жыл бұрын
If you got to get somewhere over 170 miles in a day, and it's a high priority.... look into an Audi Q5 or Q7, Porsche Cayenne or VW Touareg in the turbodiesel TDI versions. Stopping to recharge is a waste of time compared to 600 to 800 miles on a 5 minute diesel fill up.
@MsAjax4093 жыл бұрын
Kyle, I did a comparison of your trip from Rocky Mount, NC to Louiville, KY with what the on-line Tesla trip plan calculates for the Model Y Long Range. Here are the numbers: E-tron: 665 miles, 12 hr 42 min., 5 charging stops, ~2.75 hrs charging, 218 kWh consumed, cost @ $0.31/kWh = $67.58 Model Y: 632 miles, 12 hr, 4 charging stops, 2.0 hrs charging, 177 kWh consumed, cost @ $0.26/kWh = $46.02 E-tron efficiency: 328 Wh/mi Model Y efficiency: 280 Wh/mi
@Genuiini4 жыл бұрын
@22:45 I think there used to be a bug which prevented unplugging while the auxiliary AC was running, I suppose that one is now fixed?
@sirgardensalot Жыл бұрын
Since your podcast a few weeks ago where you said that the Audi e trons have come down in price so much and are a good deal I have been looking at a lot of videos most of yours especially one in regards towing there's not many out there but one question where somebody said that you could not charge and have the AC running or leave somebody in the car and have the AC running but you just answered that question that way I was wondering about in this video so thank you very much The content excellent as usual that you're right the e-tron 2019 are a deal at the moment you can find some that only have 12K and they're under $40,000 and that's the prestige I'm looking to maybe tow a small box trailer to work and back I average about 70 mi a day and I think this would work perfectly I have all my tools in the back of the trailer but still gathering information first thing I've got to do is to get a charge installed at the house
@rijoshj2 жыл бұрын
Go Tigers!!! love your videos.. keep it coming. My next car will be an EV. I live in a place where there is a Tesla charger, but no EA or any other station. -from a fellow tiger:)
@buzzpedrotti54012 жыл бұрын
Thanks. This effort gives an indication of how much extra time and thought must go into traveling with a non Tesla EV. In a simple ice you could have concentrated on the end objective and the drive.
@irfanhusein14453 жыл бұрын
Kyle, it would be more informative if you could mention the number of seconds the charging station handshake takes.
@williamkinn59593 жыл бұрын
Boy the music gets old. These trips while possible sure seem like a lot more effort and time versus gas.
@jamwiddle664211 ай бұрын
I own one of these. Edition One: Only 900 made world wide. 9K miles as of 1/24/24. It is the bomb. I drive it just to drive it. I only paid $37K out the door
@wcg663 жыл бұрын
I have the Prius Prime which is a decent compromise EV/HV since we have a short commute. My guess is 80-90% of our regular driving will be EV and roadtrips will be HV. I think our next car will be full EV depending on how charging stations roll out. There are none in my suburb in Ontario, Canada for example.
@omelvold4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Nice to see some more US content about the Audi e-tron, which is actually the most sold car (regardless of class and fuel type) here in Norway in 2020. For example, the e-tron has outsold the TMX 18:1! I think some of the reason is that we use WLTP, which makes it easier to compare electric cars in general.. Some comments: - You’d get 5-10% better range and even better comfort with the 19 or 20 inch wheels, which are narrower. (The recommended tire pressure is also a bit on the low side.) With that extra range, and some more experience with the limits of the car, you’d have an even better trip. With less motorway, you can easily go 230-240 miles. I’ve done 270 miles without hypermiling at all, but when the roads allow an average of only 45 mph. - The route planner in your test vehicle seems like it’s still on the old software. Which you confirm in regards to the oil change error. I’ve never seen that. With the latest software, it should be able to pick the fastest chargers just fine. I’d say as good my Model S back in 2017. 🙂 It’s still a bit conservative though, and while you can choose between routes in the car, or in the Audi app, I like to plan my trips over at abetterrouteplanner.com for even more choices- and a better overview. With Premium you get live traffic, weather, you can prioritize charging networks, pick chargers, set thresholds, etc. etc. *I think you’re absolutely right though. While some of us enjoy this, and it works fine, normal people will run into problems on long trips with all other EVs than Tesla, even today.* The HPC CCS network in Northern Europe is getting really good, and you don’t have these vast distances as in the US, but the charging providers must start using common platforms and follow the standards that actually exists. Even Plug & Charge exists. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZ66oZegiKyGmK8 We can’t continue to have different apps and RFID tags for all of them. And we need reliable live status, in the car or the cars app. - You’re right about the GOM, it changes based on destination (elevation, speed limits etc). 👍 If you loook at the estimated SoC on arrival in the route plan, and keep 5-10% buffer, and you can’t go wrong. Except if the destination is a single 50 kW charger which can be out of order or busy.. Luckily, we see fewer of these overs here nowadays. Keep up the good work! I really like your EV content and your open mindedness.
@plushiie_3 жыл бұрын
This was one of the first SUV's and it has an older-gen battery pack. Think when it gets an updated one, it will be a very good suv.
@danburkland4 жыл бұрын
A trailer full of some sweet Mercedes at 34:48
@stephenhinkle32773 жыл бұрын
Considering this model. How comfy are the messaging seats? Currently have a 2020 explorer st with Message seats so was wondering how the might compare? Thank you for your dedication to the EV reviews!!
@rjbruce13 жыл бұрын
I’m interested in what the trip length would’ve been if you use the optimal path between your two destinations compared against the path you took to make sure you had adequate charging. I’d also be interested in how much time was spent charging the vehicle overall.
@joedifrancesco15722 жыл бұрын
Which would you prefer to roadtrip in, Audi E-Tron or Cadillac Lyriq? Both have about the same size battery, similar interior size, similar seating position, similar charging speed, massaging seats, great tech, etc.
@markfitzpatrick66924 жыл бұрын
I use 50 kWh chargers all the time on my leaf. Stop saying they are no use to anyone. I had a model 3 using one next too me with his chademo adaptor. Bolts and leafs I 3 can’t charge that fast and I can’t get a Tesla or etron so for 6 years I am happy when they install a ChargePoint were I want to go
@homomorphic4 жыл бұрын
18:00 strange things are afoot at the circle k.
@tomkennedy31233 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the fast charging is damaging the batteries.
@randyvanvliet2263 жыл бұрын
yes, it's hard on the extended life of the battery.
@ArifSelect13 жыл бұрын
yes.. it's "damaging more" the battery.. so if you can, charge it with the slowest rate possible.. I almost never go to supercharge station because I always use wall charger on my home. but it's okay to use supercharge on a roadtrip once a while..
@MyCousinGrandpa3 жыл бұрын
Obviously they don’t keep the window squeegees at the chargers like at the gas pumps.
@bavariancarenthusiast27224 жыл бұрын
You are blessed with low energy prices - here in Germany it's between 39 to 77 cents / kWh, but if you drive a luxury vehicle you don't care - same with large ICE SUV´s, you know what you are getting.
@ouch10114 жыл бұрын
This car does have a pretty bad reputation for efficiency, but as long as you can charge it at 150+kw chargers, it doesn't even matter as far as speed goes. Many reviewers don't comment on that. I'd guess this Audi charges faster to 80% on a much larger battery pack than either my Bolt or Kona charge to 50%. Of course, if charging on a per KW charger, it will cost more. For ideal speed on the Bolt or the Kona, you end up only being able to charge to between 50-60%, which might get you between 90-120 miles of range. The e-tron charges at max speed to almost 80%, which might get you 150-170 miles of range, and it does it faster. But it also costs 2x to buy and about 1.5x to charge if paying per kw. I keep waiting for a legacy manufacturer to build an efficient, high performance, awd luxury vehicle with fast charging speed. Audi has 3 out of 4. Would also be nice to get a legacy manufacturer to build a 250mi range vehicle with fast charging speed for around $40k. Closest thing we might have is the id.3, maybe.... If Audi can build a 95kwh pack that charges 150kw to 80% (yes, I know it has a top buffer), then they should also be able to build a 60-65kwh pack that charges 100kw to 80%. I'm still not sold on Tesla as a vehicle I'd own past the warranty period personally. Too many questions of quality, after-sales service, parts availability, etc. To me, they are the only ones who have build an efficient, high performance, awd luxury vehicle with fast charging speed (Model S long range, Model 3 isn't a luxury vehicle), but it comes with too many other flaws.
@OutofSpecMotoring4 жыл бұрын
Lucid may be a good option - we’ll have to see how they hold up with heavy use though
@dmitchellhomes4 жыл бұрын
Defiantly do not want to own an off warranty Tesla... I have an E-Tron and it is thirsty, but such a nice car to drive. We change 95% at home and only charge outside a handful of times a year. Audi throws in 1000 kWh free at Electrify America, we still have not exhausted our free energy, and I think this is common for the typical customer.
@ogzombieblunt46262 жыл бұрын
@@dmitchellhomes Except that teslas drivetrains have been shown to breakdown less.
@dmitchellhomes2 жыл бұрын
@@ogzombieblunt4626 Tesla‘s off of the warranty period, are a total 100% money pit. Tesla repairs are very expensive, and very difficult to get service appointments. I would never on a Tesla off the warranty,
@ogzombieblunt46262 жыл бұрын
@@dmitchellhomes All repairs are expensive right now, especially for evs lmao. Once you see supply reach demand part availability will increase too. All of these things are temporary issues that won't exist in 10 years, and cost will drastically improve for all cars when the economy returns to normal, but sure be short sighted and cherrypick.
@cameronscheelar22663 жыл бұрын
Yes.......... I want to make my trip across a beautiful landscape to be about where the next charger is...........NOT!!!!! You do YOU and I’ll do ME!!! EV ‘s are great ....”for some”.
@JustOutHereTinkering3 жыл бұрын
You say it's only slightly less than the tesla but that's the standard range... I have regularly made trips in our long range of 280-290 miles with 10%+- left. And then there's the charging network. In a year, hopefully that will be resolved and I love the look of the E-tron but I need a bit more before I'd be ready to buy. The F150 though. Hmmm lol
@terryrodbourn27933 жыл бұрын
After watching your road trips for awhile I've come to conclusion that the CCS network needs to be creating expanded especially is smaller cities and large towns!
@DrEarbuds11 ай бұрын
another good video but you never posted the part 2
@davisreid8734 жыл бұрын
Hey Kyle is it harder on your Tesla battery to show up with 2% left rather than let’s say 15 or 20%?
@rdk39962 жыл бұрын
Hi Kyle, I also enjoy all your videos! I’m finally down to choosing between 2 EVs and your videos have really helped. They are the 2022 Etron and iX. Availability is playing a factor unfortunately. Etron I can likely get later summer, when I’d like it. Your videos show you love both EVs. I don’t do long road trips so I’m lowering my range priority to help justify the Etron. And Etron will be less $ 10k the way I’m specing them. Your thoughts please?
@AhmedThaking3 жыл бұрын
25:05 is that the engine light?
@73henny4 жыл бұрын
35:32 $million load.
@aquicktake4 жыл бұрын
Great license plate!
@abcd-fx9bw4 жыл бұрын
Hey Kyle, In summers you should do a road trip in Alberta,Canada. Just waiting to see beautiful prairies.
@rfox8642 ай бұрын
When you did the range test with the Audi Q8 etron and your black etron, the efficiency for the older etron was 3miles per kwh. The Q8 etron was 2.9 miles per kwh. how come this is 2 miles per kwh.
@Geckogold4 жыл бұрын
Hey Kyle, thanks for doing videos like this. Tesla makes it so easy to do, as you've shown in other road trip videos. It is nice to see non-Tesla EV's doing longer trips, and how much more planning they take to do it. And this is probably one thing scaring non-EV owners away from trying them, even if they never take road trips, or at least really long ones like you've done. I hope that the public charging network continues to grow so naysayers have even less excuses to try an EV, especially as they get lower prices, higher range, and faster charging.
@ruststar4 жыл бұрын
@34.50 he didn’t even realize the truck load of Mercedes AMG GTR driving by 😳😳
@kennytinker242 жыл бұрын
how about a comparison of all night driving with lights on vs all day with not?
@Lynyrd_Evnyrd4 жыл бұрын
Strange the North Carolina Chargepoint chargers are 50kW. In Oklahoma our new Chargepoint chargers are 62kW or 125kW like the new big dieselgate build in Colorado. A link to details on that Colorado build - drive.google.com/file/d/1-z-lNQMU0pymcTQEH8OvnemgTbwQnFhq/view Most of the Dieselgate funds in Oklahoma were used by Francis Energy though with 200kW-350kW (with some 50kW units mixed in) BTCPower chargers which you got the chance to try one trip if I remember right.
@SillyBilly56892 жыл бұрын
People that can afford a car like the E-tron don't have an hour to stop and recharge.
@TheSpiroTube3 жыл бұрын
I really would like to see how much better the Audi Q4 etron will be
@nevco87744 жыл бұрын
How come everybody complains about the problem of glitchy decoupling of charging connector CCS from Etron and you never had any issue?
@borisdemelo4 жыл бұрын
At pretty much every stop he mentioned how long the handshake takes (about 2 minutes) after plugging in.
@nevco87744 жыл бұрын
@@borisdemelo I meant after charging the locking mechanism sometimes does not release the connector. It is a very common problem in Etron of which TeslaBjorn makes fun in his videos. Sometimes the customer has to use the manual release from under the hood after popping it out. The problem also can be encountered in French EVs sold in Europe. To speed up handshaking it is necessary to hold tight the connector pushed towards the car until it locks thus handshake takes just a few seconds.
@OutofSpecMotoring4 жыл бұрын
I heard about this and in my 3,000 total miles with the car it never happened once
@dmitchellhomes4 жыл бұрын
@@OutofSpecMotoring I think that was fixed with a software update quite a while ago. It happened to me on my E-Tron test drive, which of course I took to a charger, but owned mine for 18 months and it has never happened.
@nevco87744 жыл бұрын
@@dmitchellhomes Then it means VW corporation finally started to succeed in fixing its software which laudable!