🏷️ Outsider REACTION to Kirtland Temple Deal

[@52churchesin52weeks]

What's your reaction about this historic news? Would enjoy hearing your respectful insights below and what this means for members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and Community of Christ.

[@John-d9k5z]

I was talking with ny Friend yesterday who believes all Churches are a Separation from God and I thought it was funny how we were All in Agreement that Jesus Commanded us to be one. Ultimately I concluded All this Man needs is for God to Ask Him, and He will do. And it was a really Great Conversation. Then when I heard about the Kirtland Temple I was thrilled.

[@6Cougarfans]

My reaction is, it sounds like a lot of unnecessary angst. Give it some time and I’m sure we’ll see the building preserved and open and transparent to all. And the documents… why weren’t they always public? Increased Transparency is my expectation there also.

[@whyismyusernametaken...]

My first reaction was one of sadness for the Community of Christ, because they must be going through some major financial issues for this to happen. I know that everything will be maintained and improved and open to all, so I hope that comforts the members of the Community of Christ.

[@CanadianBigmoose]

I appreciate your genuine consideration all around. I am excited at the announcement, and hope the event to be a boon for the Community of Christ in their challenges. Peace be unto you.

[@barbchapman]

Thank you for this insightful commentary. It is good to have objectivity in this event.

[@alark79]

Thank you for this video. I'm a Community of Christ member in Colorado. Emotions for us are very raw at the moment. First let me say I know the LDS Church will take very good care of these properties and will treasurer their historical importance to both of our churches. In that respect I am happy for the LDS community. For me the sale was important in two ways. First, that this deal was made is not something I thought would ever happen (no matter who the buyer is - if we had to sell, this is the correct buyer). More so though, the fact that it was kept so secret. We received an email with a video that basically said this is what we just did. With no notice that the sale was being considered, no chance to prepare or come to terms, it was a very hard shock which plays into the higher emotions for me. While I don't think having a say in the decision would have changed the outcome, we're usually a fairly open church and this level of secrecy is not something we're used to. Frankly that hurts. Anyway, that's my 2 cents. Again, thanks for posting this video from an outsiders perspective, I appreciate it.

[@sophiamcl]

Surely the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints owe a debt of gratitude to the Community of Christ for the love and care with which they have preseved and cared for our common heritage. Although there must have been anguish and sadness in having to take this decision, I hope the Community of Christ will be able to feel that the buildings and artifacts are in some sense still "in the family".

[@Coopsoldman]

200 million is a pretty big thank you 😊

[@alisarichardsramirezmusic2233]

​@@Coopsoldmanthey certainly helped out another church in financial suffering.

[@Coopsoldman]

@@alisarichardsramirezmusic2233 yeah o just hope it helps. Sounds like they're struggling a bit and they're good people.

[@denebuxtoo8944]

Yes we are so thankful they took such great care of all these historical sites and artifacts. The Community of Christ Church members will always be welcome at these sites! We are all brothers and sisters in Christ.

[@JeepinJenny]

I’m grateful for everyone being kind with their comments. I’m LDS but my sister in law is a Pastor in the Community of Christ Church. Before she became my sister in law, her congregation had a huge fundraiser to raise money to help send my LDS nephew on his mission. ❤

[@safrew1]

Thank you for sharing. That is just beautiful.

[@diannaanderson]

What love!!💝

[@PatriciaCooper-br1ye]

It’s called BIG PHARMA

[@PatriciaCooper-br1ye]

We are all so very happy to have this Temple back . The Lord Jesus Christ appeared in this Temple. Angels we’re seen on the roof at it’s dedication.

[@jennywayman4461]

That is really amazing!

[@Mgreat-o7v]

As a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, I can say that I was stunned by the news. I didn't think it would be possible, this place is so important to us church members that no money could ever pay for it. A very historic day for us.

[@ajkool101]

Wholeheartedly agree. The Community of Christ took care of all these things, and that's something we should NOT forget.

[@like2hunt]

As an LDS member, I am so excited for this but like you said, temper it with gratitude for the Community of Christ Church for its stewardship of all the things acquired. None of us should be spiking the football. I have full confidence that these sites will get the reverence and respect they deserve for all people regardless of denomination to continue to appreciate.

[@davidchoate512]

I concur . Thank the Lord for the community of Christ .

[@kolobkolobkolobkolob]

They all will be gathered in that will follow Him. It will be okay

[@bobreed68]

Don’t you mean spiking the volleyball? But I’ve never heard of “spiking the football” but then, I don’t know a lot about sports.

[@kristysunday3445]

I am so grateful for the Community of Christ taking such good care of the Kirkland temple. We went to visit a couple of years ago, and they were so sweet to us!

[@adeleaustin1125]

I have a feeling of joy and peace that the brotherhood between the LDS Church and the Community of Christ will endure as we continue to work through all this. The Prophet is so kind and he very likely will include with great love these people who have been caretakers for so long! Such wonderful news!

[@EricHancock]

All of the statements given by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, including by President Nelson himself, have been very gracious and complimentary toward the Community of Christ. 👏

[@AZDee144]

I’m so grateful that they chose to sell to the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and not to anyone else. I feel like the highest level of reverence for and utmost care of those items and properties will result from their choice in selling those sacred things to us. 🙏🏻

[@HaleStorm49]

Who else would have offered 192 million?

[@milesmoore8705]

​@@HaleStorm49 There was a private group that wanted to pay $100,000 to $200,000, just for the temple and nothing else.

[@VaLynne1]

@@HaleStorm49 The 192 million was not for the temple alone. There is a lot of property, involved, especially in the Nauvoo area.

[@HaleStorm49]

@@milesmoore8705 out of curiosity...do you think the LDS church would have lost a bidding war?

[@CAOceanWaves]

I believe that they would have preferred to sell these buildings to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints before anyone else because they knew no one else would love and take care of it like the Church of Jesus Christ would.

[@janananna]

I always appreciate your level un- biased approach to all these relationships and religions. You are a man of peace and the Lord loves you so much. ❤

[@KaiJames44]

Thank you Community of Christ for your love, care, kindness, and humility in sharing the sacred Kirtland Temple. Thank you Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints for being a wonderful team member. Together we are strong as we testify of Jesus Christ by our warm hearts and supportive actions.

[@sheldonmurphy6031]

Umm, they didn't share it. They sold it for nearly 200 MILLION dollars! 😂 Tjere is no humility and kindness in 190 MILLION Dollars. 😆

[@SchrodingersPussyCat]

BS. Ethiopia, Mexico, Italy, Egypt, or Vatican, etc. Manage to preserve buildings, not 150 yrs, but over 1,500 years.

[@mavinswapp9663]

@@sheldonmurphy6031 Yes, they shared it since its value is much greater than 200,000,000 dollars.

[@sheldonmurphy6031]

@@mavinswapp9663 🤣🤣🤣 I'll let you have that one! lol

[@halffeelee]

This is like the LA Dodgers moving back to Brooklyn. Huge. Monumental. Thank you Community of Christ for being such wonderful stewards over these sacred spaces and artifacts for so long.

[@latterdaycovenantliving]

We an also assume it’s like the Jazz moving back to New Orleans for the other side

[@jjettswriting]

As a Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints member and former historical sites sister missionary, I'm extremely grateful to the Community of Christ. We couldn't have asked for a better steward of the temple. I served as a tour guide missionary at the Hill Cumorah Historical Sites, and we had all the restoration church members visit us because we share the same history. Our leaders instructed us to be respectful, gracious, and kind to all. We even had the opportunity to give out over 2 dozen copies of the Book of Mormon to their youth as a gift and thank you for the visit. That said and putting myself in the Community of Christ's position, I can certainly imagine how they must be feeling: if I heard that the Hill Cumorah sites were being sold to any of the other restorationist churches, I'd be shocked, heart-broken, and worried about how respectful they'd be with the way we'd set-up the site. I'd worry they'd change the history of the place to fit their narrative, which could potentially offend or misinform others. I can sympathize with the loss and pain their feeling. As a historical sites sister missionary, I can confidently assure any Church of Christ members that if the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints makes any changes to the exterior or interior, it will only be to restore any damaged or worn-out materials so that they can look as they did when they were first built or designed. The restoration team will base their work on historical records and images and any modern materials will only have preservation in mind when designed: for example, when the Church restored the log cabins at the Peter Whitmore and Smith farms, the team scoured the region looking for cabins that had been built during the same time to get the kind of wood available in the upstate New York area during the early 1800s. However, they also applied materials to the wood that would preserve it against the elements (and upstate NY has some pretty harsh elements during the winter and rainy seasons) but that would still keep the wood looking the color, grain, and texture it had when it was first hewed and built into cabins in the 1800s. I don't know what the tour guides or missionaries will say to visitors, but I believe they will acknowledge the Church of Christ members' roles in keeping the temple preserved and safe, even it that acknowledgment isn't formally in the tour literature or tour guide scripts.

[@ilonadever8249]

I have visited the Kirtland Temple and the historic buildings in Nauvoo many times. I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. I always enjoyed the visits and especially the dedication of the members of the Reorganized Church now Community of Christ. They were knowledgeable, friendly, reverent. and respectful. Wonderful to be with them.

[@jbrowneyes9902]

David, I just want you to know that I have been following both sides of this interesting turn of events. The FB posts I have seen from members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints have expressed empathy, graciousness, and extreme gratitude to the Community of Christ for their dedicated stewardship over these historical assets which are precious to both our congregations. My heart goes out to those who may be saddened by this. I have full confidence that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints will maintain these properties with the promises of public availability - even going so far to allow continued Community of Christ annual meetings for their members to take place in the Kirtland Temple. I hope their sadness and concerns will be allayed in the future as they see that these historical assets will still be available to them and others who are not affiliated with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

[@gingermcgovern5682]

Yes us members in general are very grateful for the Community of Christ and their wonderful stewardship and caretaking of the sacred temple and buildings, etc. The Church of Jesus Christ has had a great relationship with them for decades.

[@davidstahl5707]

Baloney

[@Linda-dr7vp]

We in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints historic sites are very, very special. If you look at other sites we have purchased we upgrade them if they need it. We want to keep the past historical sites the way they were in the day the sites were built. It is how we roll. The Kirkland temple will remain as it was from the time it was built.

[@terrym5786]

We are family

[@jimcervo4871]

@@Linda-dr7vp Kirtland Temple (not Kirkland)🙂

[@lizkt]

David, wow. Thank you so much for this video. As an LDS member I had not thought about their side of this news. I didn't realize they sold it out of desperation or that they were so devoted to the temple. I was only happy for us. Thanks to you, I now feel sorrow for them. The idea that they loved the temple with devotion and sold it out of need breaks my heart. Thanks for the reminder to think about the other person.

[@lynnelowe4895]

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has such a great relationship with the Community of Christ church. They have agreed to let them visit and use it for the things that are still important to them. I can see them using it often. Now they will not have to care for or upkeep it. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints will take very good care of it.

[@lizkt]

@@lynnelowe4895 yes definitely. We will take very good care if it and they will have as much access to it as they want. I agree

[@BradKandyCroftFamily]

Seriously, it would be akin to us having to sell Temple Square and all the buildings in it. It would cut to the core. I hope most LDS members come to see this, too.

[@safrew1]

​@@BradKandyCroftFamilyW 14:09 Well said.

[@BGCflyer]

…you can but anything with money!

[@mcash232]

Not too long ago, I had the opportunity to work directly with some of the folks at Community of Christ, and they were absolutely wonderful. It was fascinating to get to know them and their church a little better, and I gained a lot of respect for them. As a Latter-Day Saint, I'm glad that the Church will be taking custody of the Kirtland Temple, but I also ache a little for our brothers in Community of Christ, since I know the news must be as difficult for them as it is wonderful for us, especially since they've done such a marvelous job as stewards of these places and artifacts. Hopefully the fact that the Temple will be kept as a historical site for the foreseeable future will dull some of that pain. It'll be interesting to see how things go from here!

[@randyfischer5082]

The Kirtland temple is a learning temple and it will remain that. Thank you to the Community of Christ for your awesome stewardship and dedication these many years!

[@orangetreevintagewaresotvw9590]

Yes, I am excited. And yes, I feel so sad for them having to sell such an important part of their (and our) history. I have nothing but love for them. May they be blessed to continue in their love of Christ.

[@karenmccain8643]

I am am a direct descendant of Hyrum Smith, the Prophet Joseph's brother and a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. In 1991 we were on a Joseph Smith Sr. family reunion tour. I got to spend my 19th birthday in Kirtland. That evening we had a family reunion meeting in the Kirtland temple presided over by a stake president from the (then) RLDS Church. His lovely wife was with him. These "good people" ARE my family! They are literally my cousins. I have enjoyed getting to know some of them as they have joined us at these reunions because its for the whole Smith family. ❤ I pray for continued love and cooperation... and peace.

[@KevlarX2]

I remember a fireside by one of your relatives, Hyrum Wayne Smith, I attended as a youth. I recorded his talk and still listen to it on occasion. I also used his Franklin Day Planner on my mission.

[@claudiawieckenberg-og9vs]

As a member of the church of Jesus Christ, it is incredible, absolut mindblowing. I never ever expected this. I was always impressed by the loving kindness, the respect, the look for common ground by the church leaders towards everyone. This is an extraordinary example for me in my little life. I can not give enough thanks to the Community of Christ for the care of all these things in the last over 100 years. I am sure, nobody will forget this and the Kirtland temple will always be loved, respected and good cared of our church. God bless all the good people in the community of Christ!

[@Zubeneshemali]

Short of balloons and confetti, there was thankful celebration everywhere in LDS circles! Much Respect to the Community of Christ for their exemplary care of our mutual heritage!! Remember what Gamaliel said to the Sanhedrin about Peter and the apostle's preaching: in effect he said "leave them alone. If they are right, we should respect them, because you can't overthrow them; if they are wrong, their sect will die as others have died"! The exact same thing has been repeated about Latter-day Saints, and the attention to detail, the growth around the world with accompanied building and the fulfillment of many prophecies from the O.T. and the New, describes the fulfilment of Daniel's dream of a " rock cut from the mountain without hands, filling the earth"! God Bless you Brother David and your quest! May the cardinals keep you entertained!

[@bitsandspurz048]

Thank you for sharing! All members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints should be very grateful for the care that has been given to this sacred historical building, for the very reasons you so kindly shared. Nice job!

[@crazyaboutcards]

We're so grateful for this news. It's been long awaited. We've always believed that this would happen. I'm a 47 YO life long member. I first visited Kirtland as a child and got to return once more about six years ago. It's extremely important to us. We will take very good care of it. I don't believe that our church would ever change it. It's historically significant and it's never been an ordinance house like our other temples. It will be accessible to all for free which is how it should be. All will be welcomed with open arms. And while we celebrate, we also have sincere gratitude for the Community of Christ for their stewardship of the temple. When I last visited, I noticed that it needed some cosmetic repairs and The Church will be able to have the right craftsman do those to maintain the integrity of the building. This transfer is a good thing for all and I hope our COC family will feel loved and always welcome to enjoy the temple going forward. When we were there they told us that they have allowed our church to use the building for filming documentaries and more. I hope that good relationship will continue.

[@moontrack4625]

I’m a nobody religion wise, but found you some months ago, watched it all , just so drawn to you. Thank you. 🙏

[@safrew1]

Happy your here ❤. I agree you can feel his earnest heart.

[@BPoftheUSA]

David, you're a great example to all Christians. God bless.

[@dannyadams7623]

As a lifelong LDS member I’ve never gotten a sense of any animosity towards the RLDS/Community of Christ. I think with all the persecution early Restoration churches faced, we just don’t spend time disparaging other religions, and certainly not those with so many common beliefs and shared history. All love and respect to our restoration cousins. We really do love you and feel yours for us! I have no doubt that members of the Community of Christ will feel just as welcome at these sites as they always have; the same loving and warm welcome they give to LDS members.

[@annewandering]

We have said the Kirtland temple would remain a visitor's center. Believe it. We totally respect the Community of Christ. The change of care responsibilities is a good thing for both of us. They are able to get out from under a load of debt and be able to focus on their goals, without worrying so much about finances. They know the properties and items will be well taken care of and they will have access. We know that it had to have been a hard decision for them to make. I have only known one member of the CofC but he was an exceptional person.

[@psychlops924]

This is incredible!! I always hoped that the church would one day take ownership of the Kirtland temple. It’s where many of the keys of the priesthood were restored, and where Moses, Elijah, and the Savior Himself appeared to Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery.

[@stacywiker2118]

As A member of the LDS church I am overjoyed! This is such an important, amazing building! The Community of Christ has taken such good care of it. Rumor has it the LDS church has actually been paying the expenses and upkeep of it for years. Much respect and love for our brothers and sisters in Christ.

[@safrew1]

Tread lightly. I am certain that the Church would not want that known. Do not let your right hand know what your left hand is doing. ❤

[@phylliswindes5526]

I believe that is a rumor. They have done renovation s of other sites in Kirtland.

[@kevinboothe9991]

​@@safrew1which church for you mean? The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has donated money to help rebuild many churches belonging to other religions that have been damaged or destroyed do to whatever reason.

[@hillaryabplanalp]

You are so gracious. I live here in Independence and while I’m excited about this transfer I definitely have sympathy and love for Community of Christ members.

[@AnnieWinter148]

God had his hand in this and on His timeline.

[@brendarambur1991]

Thank you for your reverence in talking about the transfer of this Holy Temple. All Glory to Jesus Christ - Savior of the World. All is well - All is as it should be.

[@RunShootSki]

I think this was a win win for both churches. I’m excited to visit there and Nauvoo in the coming years. Honestly, this might have been the largest historical event in the church during my lifetime.

[@SeanLayton]

No landscape shift really. Our purpose remains exactly the same -- to invite other to come unto Christ. Buildings and temples are cool, but it's what we do inside them, and what we do within our hearts that really matters. Thanks for giving the people an update! :)

[@safrew1]

My favorite comment here. Thanks

[@bethanydee1920]

Except 15 yrs from now nobody in CofC won't be able to go in because a temple recommend which was never a part of original doctrine wil be required. So no, it's not to bring everybody to Christ just Mormons.

[@susannaholdfield7499]

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints do not intend to change the function of the Kirtland Temple. It will stay open for visitors of all faiths. @@bethanydee1920

[@clintjones3366]

@@bethanydee1920 I can understand your concern, but the Kirkland Temple was different from that of the Nauvoo Temple and every temple since. I believe what President Nelson said that the Kirkland Temple would continue as a historic monument and not converted to Temple use as all the other subsequent temples were originally designed to be from the start. The LDS church holds too much respect for the history of this building. Use as a temple in the classic sense would require a complete overhaul. That would destroy that history. So I don’t think you need to worry about that. I would think of it more and transfer of custodianship between family members. Sometimes that happens. But this allows the community of Christ to address its needs while assuring the sacredness of these facilities and artifacts continue to be carefully preserved and available.

[@bethanydee1920]

@clintjones3366 I'm sorry to have to tell you but it was proven in a court of law years ago that the Reorganized Church was the original church and therefore of course taught the original doctrine. The RLDS church adopted the "Reorganized" designation just to get things settled but it was a decision which has caused much confusion since the LDS leaders had always preferred to behave as if this important truth should be swept under the rug. Brigham Young usurped power and changed the doctrine to suit his lust, approved murder of "gentiles" & even sent men to threaten Emma Smith with the starvation of herself and her children by withholding funds due her if she didn't move to Utah. Your leadership who know these things but won't tell their members the truth should be the last people on earth to decide another person's purity to get a temple recommend, thereby excluding almost everyone on this planet as if they can look on everybody's hearts like the Bible says God does.

[@garywatts8543]

As an LDS member, a massive THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU to Community of Christ for being amazing stewards over a sacred building to us both! (And many other items as well!)

[@NinaHansen2008]

Thank you, David. Bless you!

[@cherylnorth5075]

Brother, you are doing a wonderful work for all of Christianity, helping us all understand other Christians. You have a terrificly open attitude and, in my opinion, the perfect person to chronicle your journey. Bless you, keep it up

[@52churchesin52weeks]

Thank you, will try my best to represent Jesus well.

[@cherylnorth5075]

@@52churchesin52weeks thats what we want

[@mamadezee]

You make some excellent points that I hope will be remembered and considered. I'm a convert to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. I joined the church when I was 18 years old, 43 years ago. I love the history of the church and I have been deeply grateful over the years that The Church of Christ has been so good at respectfully taking care of the various historical buildings, documents, and artifacts that are so sacred to both of our churches. My heart goes out to the members of The Church of Christ and I hope that they will feel our love and respect and be able to feel a sense of peace, comfort, and love knowing they have done a great job and a feeling that the Lord is pleased with their great work. I hope also that there will continue to be a great building of love and friendship between all our members, as many of us are cousins. I feel this is an incredible blessing in moving forward in building a Zion Community. I think also that in the long term, Christ will come and conscribe all things into one eternal whole...for ALL things belong to HIM anyway. We are eternally grateful for the beautiful souls who over the last century have taken such good care of these beautiful, incredibly sacred, historical buildings etc. I am grateful to know that in every podcast I have listened to about this sale and the LDS Church's plans going forward, they have said that these buildings will be open to all people and will continue to be a joint purpose within both churches to preserve our shared history.

[@jeraldrogers2375]

When I heard this announcement, I immediately thought, "This must be as bitterly disappointing for many Community of Christ folks as it is exciting for Latter-day Saints." I hope the sale allows them to continue with their mission and that they know they are always welcome at these historic places just as they have welcomed and shared them with us.

[@defylogictech]

Great Stuff! My Great (3x) Grand Father's property which was nextdoor to Joseph Smith's house was included in this purchase!

[@EricHancock]

The first thing I thought of when I heard the news of the sale was your Stone Church video! That video is so relevant to this situation!!

[@wadewixom7029]

Thank you for your message. As a member of the SLC church, I am extremely excited and appreciative of the care and stewardship that has been shown by the Community of Christ. I’m glad that relationships have improved so much between the two churches, and hope it will continue and increase in the years to come.

[@reneestewart7977]

I've never thought of someone being a member of the SLC Church. It's the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which is a world wide church.. I live in Utah, but have never considered it in that way. Only the headquarters are there.❤

[@BradKandyCroftFamily]

What does SLC stand for?

[@reneestewart7977]

@@BradKandyCroftFamily Salt Lake City

[@Comm.DavidPorter]

@@reneestewart7977 Mr. Wixom was using "SLC Church" as shorthand for "the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, headquartered in Salt Lake City." Not a big deal.

[@safrew1]

​@Comm.DavidPorter exactly. In his response, he was acknowledging our kinship to the Community of Christ Church.

[@Jace28142]

After visiting Independence and Community of Christ Temple and other areas owned by them I gained a great love and appreciation for this wonderful group of members. I’m so grateful that they took such loving care of “our” joint heritage and that they were willing to sell The Kirkland Temple and other items to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Much love to Community of Christ.

[@Rhonda.F.Duncan]

Before I joined the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, I had called the Reorganized Church of Latter Day Saints now called The Community of Christ Church. Since I was looking for the true church, I investigated both churches & although I ended up joining the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints one of the things that stayed with me about the Reorganized Church was that they were very humble & welcoming people. Heavenly Father loves these people too & it will not go unnoticed that they took good care of the Kirkland Temple & eventually sold it to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

[@brucefarrar7359]

Many people don't know that the LDS already has a huge presence in Kirtland, sacred and historic buildings. The place is wonderful to visit.

[@IN_GODS_iTRUST]

I’m a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saint , thank you for your kind view

[@TheBornin49]

I always enjoy your videos David, because of the fair and balanced statements made. As fa as this transaction goes, it is without a doubt some of the biggest news ever!!! As with many Latter-day Saints, who have many deep roots into the Kirkland, Ohio period of the Church's history & the Temple it's self. I too, have felt this bond and share a family connection to this history, which when learning about the Kirkland Temple changing ownership was both amazing and shockingly surreal at the same time. There is no doubt that the Church will do everything to preserve all of the properties to the best possible & highest standard of maintenance. As we deeply revere these places & hold them as sacred monuments to be forever cherished. All of the revelations received in the Kirkland area that are contained within the pages of the Doctrine and Covenants, are some of the most epic episodes of Church History. .

[@Comm.DavidPorter]

It's "Kirtland." "Kirkland" is a suburb of Seattle, and a Costco brand.

[@matildarei]

Years ago I went on a church history tour, and as my group took tours of the buildings owned by the Community of Christ, I was impressed by how gracious and kind they were to us LDS members. They treated the buildings and artifacts with reverence, and I really felt a kinship with them. Of course, it’s exciting to me that the LDS church has access to these buildings and artifacts; but it wouldn’t be possible without the Community of Christ caring for them all these years. 💕

[@bagnon]

Thanks for the insights and invitation on being conscientious about the feelings of those who cared for the Kirtland temple these many years. The church will take care of it and ensure the public can enjoy visiting the temple for many years to come.

[@teresawoodside4051]

Yes there is excitement however we know how it feels to lose property and lands and we have respect and empathy for these our brothers and sisters. I read an article today that the LDS church’s restoration and history department will continue to work with the members of the community of Christ in the preservation and continued historical use of these buildings and documents! Thank you for your channel!

[@alicedehepzibah]

I'm so thankful it will remain open to all as well!

[@CheriBattrick]

Thank you for making this video. I watched with great interest your video about the Stone Church sometime back and as a result of that, I have been wondering this week how you personally were feeling about the sale of the Kirtland Temple. I live in Independence and am a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I was stunned when I heard the news and contrary to probably what you might expect, my first thoughts were of my friends in other Restoration churches and almost an empathic response of feeling sadness and grief at the transfer of these buildings. As a result, I have taken most of the week to try to figure out what I may be able to say to my restoration friends to let them know that I understand how they must be feeling, and to support them as they process their feelings, while at the same time, I am gradually coming out of the sadness on their behalf and into the joy that this very important temple is now in the hands of my own church and that it will remain a historic site where my restoration friends may visit in the future in order to revisit our common roots.

[@margynelson7945]

We (as members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saint) have great respect for the people from the Community of Christ for being careful caretakers of these sacred places, especially the Kirtland temple. Our church knows the importance of this temple to all of the restoration churches. This is one of the reasons that it will be open to the public for free. I know this must have been hard for them to do and painful too. They will be able to enjoy these spaces just like they allowed us to worship inside of them too. We have been allowed to hold meetings in the Kirtland temple in the past. So of course we know that this is a great sacrifice for them and also a concern for the other restoration churches like the Strangite church. I am confidant that this will be a bonding time for all of us who follow the Prophet Joseph Smith and all he sacrificed to restore the fullness of the gospel back to the Earth. I feel like many are connecting especially because of Yotube channels like yours and MBR too!

[@safrew1]

Our roots are the same. ❤ Great reminder.

[@teetwo56]

Thank you for sharing this story accurately and respectfully. It is much appreciated. And thanks to the Community of Christ for their good stewardship of the temple.

[@fast800man]

Excellent point- those properties might not have been preserved without the Community of Christ caretaking. 👏👏👏. Thank you 🙏🏼

[@SchrodingersPussyCat]

BS. Ethiopia, Mexico, Italy, Egypt, or Vatican, etc. Manage to preserve buildings, not 150 yrs, but over 1,500 years.

[@charmainecarter2669]

Everyone upon this earth is a child of God. He and our Savior love us all without measure. We are grateful and thankful to the stewards of the Kirkland Temple and properties. May God continue to bless them and the LDS going forward.

[@safrew1]

Amen❤

[@barrydawg7544]

As an 8-year convert to the Church of Jesus of Latter Day Saints, I want to express just how wonderful your video and information on this historical purchase is for the LDS community and history in general. I do feel sadness for the Community of Christ church and its members. My wife and I have been to this amazing church historical site and being there was a beautiful spiritual experience for us. What impressed me with your work here was that it was not anything negative about the two churches. A lot of things on the internet from people who do not understand the LDS church or have left the church want to put out anti-LDS lies. It's sad but it happens all the time with religion and politics. Thank you again... for your information. I will say that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints WILL keep the Kirkland Temple as is and might even do seismic reinforcing for the structure like they are doing now, for the Salt Lake Temple.

[@kriswiddison1698]

I really appreciate your even handed approach to your video presentations regarding your visits. I did not see your video on the Community of Christ visit but I sense your sympathy for them. I also appreciate the role they play in sharing the love of Christ. I'm sure the need to sell the Kirtland Temple is a disappointment for them. Keep up your great work. Thank you.

[@debbiepenorpencil5896]

you are so right. As an LDS member, I feel joy and getting "back" this historical monument, but now I can also empathize with those who have lost it! thank you for helping me see their side!!!

[@KevlarX2]

I'm a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, and every member I know is excited to have the Kirtland Temple and Mansion House etc., back in our possession. We also are grateful to the Community of Christ Church for their great care in maintaining those. The LDS Church I know will continue to maintain, repair, and keep these structures for visitors to enjoy and learn from.

[@chelseacooper9514]

John Taylor- “As a people or community, we can abide our time, but I will say to you Latter-day Saints, that there is nothing of which you have been despoiled by oppressive acts or mobocratic rule, but that you will again possess, or your children after you. Your rights in Ohio, your rights in Jackson, Clay, Caldwell and Davies counties in Missouri, will yet be restored to you. Your possessions, of which you have been fraudulently despoiled in Missouri and Illinois, you will again possess, and that without force, or fraud or violence. The Lord has a way of His own in regulating such matters.” God is working His work right now in HIS church and seeing these prophecies literally come forth are incredible miracles! Can’t wait to see what comes next! ❤

[@gnw1264]

As an LDS woman, I am deeply grateful for the caretaking that the Community of Christ has done for these places that are sacred to both of our churches. I lived in Kirtland for 15 years and watched the leadership of both churches build wonderful relationships. We often visited the temple and surrounding historic places. I exchanged pleasantries with, as well as expressed my thanks to Community of Christ members for their care of these places that are important to me. Some of Joseph Smith's descendants were / are associated with the RLDS Church/Community of Christ. They are literal cousins to many of us, and, as children of God, brothers and sisters to all of us!

[@charmainecarter2669]

Thank you for a loving spiritual video.

[@Aubergine1941]

I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of LDS. It was wonderful to hear that the Kirtland Temple has been acquired by us. But my heart goes out to the Community of Christ as circumstances forced them to give up this Temple that was so treasured by them and also the other buildings and precious things. I am grateful they took such good care of it all, and I know they must be hurting right now. God bless you all. ❤

[@MinecraftEmpire22]

Thank you for your video. I am a member of Community of Christ. I had the opportunity to be a guide last fall at the Kirtland Temple and have had opportunity to worship there and attend retreats. It is a special place to me. It was heartbreaking to hear if the sale, yet I understand the position that leadership was put in with financial problems the church faces. I have some friends who are LDS that I have made through the John Whitmer Historical Association and I know you will take of the buildings and artifacts that you have purchased.

[@jesselenz5452]

As a lifelong member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, I am absolutely ecstatic at this sale and have looked forward to this my entire life. I did not think it would happen during my lifetime so my jaw hit the floor and I was absolutely speechless but on cloud nine when this news broke. We do appreciate their care in preserving the building. There have been noticeable signs of minor decay on the building and several times in the past the church has reached out to purchase the building but the answer has always been no. While we are grateful for the care it has received, we are in a position to restore it and make sure it lasts for another 200 or more years. The history behind this building is absolutely incredible and needs to be kept in the public view. The temple lot in Independence will eventually come to LDS church hands as well, but all in good time. We are not yet ready to build the temple there so it is not expedient for us to have the property at this time. When it is expedient, the property will be ours. And just like with the sale of the Kirtland Temple, it will likely drop as a major surprise and with emotional repercussions all around. Yet the word of the Lord will be fulfilled.

[@annewandering]

We do not decide. It is up to God. At the moment we are actually building a temple about 50 miles from the Kirtland temple. It will be a few years before another is needed. Did you notice the transaction was coached as a transfer of responsibility not so much as a sale? It belongs to everyone in truth but we have taken on the responsibility to protect and keep it is good repair..

[@taylorsessions4143]

​@@annewanderingthat's really neat! Which temple is being built 50 miles away?

[@i2rtw]

@@taylorsessions4143Cleveland

[@jesselenz5452]

@@taylorsessions4143 Cleveland

[@user-gl8ee4ib5m]

@@taylorsessions4143 / @annewandering The recently announced site for a temple in south Cleveland is actually only about 20 miles away from the Kirtland Temple.

[@riskkerroo724]

The Community of Christ have been excellent stewards of these holy properties and relics. The LDS and Community of Christ have a wonderful relationship sharing our history. We are forever grateful for their friendship ❤

[@KathleenDeLandPeterson]

Thank you for your respectful response and gracious comments about both religions.

[@weldonhudson5535]

I’m also LDS and want to let you know that I’m impressed with you Christ like behaviour you exhibit towards people and their beliefs! 😊I am certain that the Saviour is pleased with you! I hope you will learn what the Lord wants and needs you to learn in your journey! Thanks for loving others!

[@davidchoate512]

March 27, 1836 was the dedicatory prayer given by President Joseph Smith. Doctrine and covenants section 109.

[@russell1391]

Thanks Always appreciate your comments

[@mikek4icy752]

It's good that the Kirtland Temple still resides within the care of a Restoration church, and could have easily been demolished or repurposed by a non-Restoration organization even back in the 1800's. But much appreciation for the long invested care from the CoC. The last thing anyone wants is for the CoC to struggle more than they can bear. I know some people have it in their hearts to see it restored as an active Utah-LDS temple again, but I can't personally see the Kirtland Temple being recommissioned for that as it's likely more feasible to build and maintain modern facilities in nearby, more populated areas. I'm know all churches of the Restoration respect its value as a sacred teaching tool for Restoration church history and public outreach open to all, as well as edification for all who believe in Christ. It served its divine purpose at the start of the Restoration and will continue with its current mission, and the Lord will no doubt have its fate figured out when he returns to 'gather all his chickens' (and churches.) The Utah-LDS and CoC are indeed cousins who both love and live the Book of Mormon, so I'd like to think of this move as the Lord persuading one family member to help out another in need.

[@TheFranchiseCA]

Refurbishing it to hold LDS ordinances just isn't possible without radically modifying the small structure. There's another current temple nearby that can be used for ordinances, and that should continue.

[@robinballew6954]

Thank you for showing respect to both sides. ❤

[@andrewolsen2711]

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is only in the situation it is in now because of faithful members living the law of consecration and obeying the commandment of tithing AND importantly the prophets, apostles, and general authorities living the law of consecration and giving their time and talents to building up Zion and not serving themselves. I’m very thankful for the CoC for their stewardship of the Kirtland temple and very thankful for faithful members and to our prophets and apostles throughout the history of the church. There is not a more devoted, humble, and wise set of leaders in all the world.

[@sueloo8305]

.. Also, please don't leave out that you are required as a member of this business organization, to perform MASONIC RITUALS at least once a month. Because the Holy Word of God, THE BIBLE states that one needs a new name because god won't know you by your GIVEN name and you need signs tokens and passwords or you cannot get into morman heaven...FYI...THE HOLY WORD OF ALMIGHTY GOD...THE ONE AND ONLY GOD FROM EVERLASTING TO EVERLASTING SAYS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING RESEMBLING THIS MASONIC RHETORIC. IT'S BLASPHEMY 💯🤨👏✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️. JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD AND SAVIOR DIED ON THE CROSS FOR THE SINS OF THE WORLD..YET mormams REFUSE TO EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE THE CROSS....I WILL PRAY FOR ALL OF THE SOULS THAT ARE MAYBE UNINTENTIONALLY COMMITTING BLASPHEMY 💯

[@joemartin9664]

I completely agree and I am grateful for the careful stewardship provided by the Community of Christ over this important temple, and I look forward to the continued care of this historical landmark. Thank you for making these videos, thank you for this work that you are doing.

[@DaisyMay222]

I deeply and gratefully rejoiced with a sting of heartache for our cousins. I will forever be grateful for their sacrifice, stewardship and care of all these sacred items! So glad they were careful in choosing a new caretaker! I have complete confidence that the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints will care for them as the Community of Christ church has done. Thank you dear cousin for your confidence in us! We love you! 🌸

[@bturner540]

Years ago in Los Angeles I sold a car to a man who within minutes asked me if I was a Latter-Day-Saint. Astonished, I asked how he knew, since I was not active at the time. He said, "I can just tell." He was from the Reorganized Church (now Community of Christ) and could sense a spiritual connection even after over a century of separation. We became close and referred to each other as cousins. Later, after I married and living in Salt Lake, a wonderful couple we knew would joke " I was Reorganized before I was organized." They were former Community of Christ members, and I have always been amazed there's still a bond after all this time has lapsed. The Savior wants us to be one...perhaps it's time.

[@Junzar56]

I am so grateful that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has purchased these properties. I know it will be used for a good purpose. The work is going forward.

[@Annie-ll2jp]

It's wonderful news!!!! 🎉🎉🎉😊😊😊😊😊

[@kathygist6488]

I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and I want you to know how much I appreciate your love and compassion for ALL people regarding their religious choices. The Lord wants us all to have this understanding as we are all his children. I am so grateful for my church and its purchase of the Kirkland Temple and other historic items, and I am indeed grateful for the preservation of these items by the Community of Christ church members. They will be richly blessed, as you will be, by their efforts.

[@DeannaWalsh]

This exchange is going to bless all of these churches. It’s going to help everybody find joy and happiness. It will continue to be cared for and promoted, and the gospel of Jesus Christ will go forward, having even more expansion of the gospel. As far as I know, the COC is going to have some continued involvement. We all will find a greater gathering of peace and faith in the Lord, Jesus Christ through this.

[@gingermcgovern5682]

You've got to go visit Nauvoo! Its a very sacred place where significant restoration events occurred! You may even see a red cardinal!

[@Comm.DavidPorter]

Well, yes, 100%, but you can also see a red cardinal in my back yard. No need to trek all the way to Nauvoo for that.

[@lisaostler2699]

Just wanted to say how grateful I am at the tremendous grace you have shown towards All the churches you have visited. As a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints... I've seen other KZbin personalities go out of their way to find Fault... I have not seen that from you... your heart is RIGHT! May your journey continue to be blessed

[@bobbypaluga4346]

I think it’s sad news that the CofC is desperate for money as their numbers drop and those who remain are predominantly elderly. The good news is that the properties will be in good hands.

[@andrewsuryali8540]

No, CoC finances are actually okay and church membership has been growing. They still have a lot of property in multiple states that serve a more recreational function in their community that could have been sold for more money and have less of an impact than this. Also, as their prez Veazey himself pointed out, the money from this sale will go to missions. What this really looks like is another step in the CoC's slow departure from Mormonism under the past two Presidents. The CoC has been slowly divesting itself of artifacts of its Mormon past under the guise of meeting financial obligations. They are now theologically liberal and have largely moved towards a more "standard" Christian understanding with a progressive bent. They no longer use the Book of Mormon as either a recruiting tool or required reading for new converts even though it's still technically scripture. They are also well on their way to electing a woman as their next President. All in all, the CoC seems to be moving in the direction of becoming a liberal quasi-Mainline Christian denomination with just a sprinkling of Restoration heritage as their distinctive.

[@MommaCrissa]

I saw on a comment on another channel a day ago that they want the money to build a temple in Independence. What do you say? ​@@andrewsuryali8540

[@ab87184]

@@andrewsuryali8540They also believe in the trinity.

[@brenwilliams6163]

​@@andrewsuryali8540 Interesting take. Yes, we, Community of Christ are growing but not in North America. We treasure our heritage but the Book of Mormon has never been required reading for members. I've been a member my whole life and never been able to get through first nephi chapter 3. We don't tell people what to believe or how to believe it. We have a unique place in the restoration and Christian Church, Midway between Mormonism and Orthodox Christianity. Christianity. It's a good place to be.

[@andrewsuryali8540]

@@brenwilliams6163 Yes, I mostly follow John Hamer's channel for current goings-on in the CoC. My opinion is largely based on the evolution of the RLDS into the CoC as I've seen from the outside. From the inside you may see the CoC as standing in the middle, but looking at the RLDS (which DID stand in the middle) the CoC is far more Christian and far less Mormon now, and will probably continue to drift into "standard" (not exactly "orthodox") North American Christianity. Your problems in NA are basically the same ones experienced by mainline denominations. That's why I said the CoC will probably become a quasi-mainline denomination in the future, as the conditions are very similar. What I think will happen is that the final form of Mormonism that will stick around is your continuing use of D&C as scripture and continued insistence that it can be updated, while the BoM will probably become apocrypha in the Catholic sense (not the Protestant sense of the seven books of the Catholic deuterocanon). By this I mean that I think eventually BoM will acquire similar status and treatment in the CoC that books like the Shepherd of Hermas and the Protoevangelium of James do in the Catholoc Church. This will maintain the CoC's distinctiveness while allowing the denomination to become fully Christian.

[@goodtoGoNow1956]

Im LDS. The community of Christ has some really nice people in it. Many of them are sad about this. I hope that God will bless their hearts to heal and also I hope that they will feel abundantly welcome and participatory in the Kirtland Temple. I also hope that they may not feel discouraged that their Church is a challenged with funds and membership. I would like them to be LDS but I understand they may not feel good about that so I hope that they will be faithful -- and happy -- in their Church.

[@sbeal4035]

All solid points. As in life, our stewardships change. Although there is enormous excitement, there can also be new opportunities for building bridges, gratitude, and a shared appreciation for respected sites. I really enjoy hearing your perspective. Thanks for sharing.

[@steffensaff]

I cried with so much love.

[@BradleyCaldwellUtah]

I am grateful that the Community of Christ has taken such great care over these historic sites. Thank you. I hope that along with payment, the LDS church as also offered financial advice so that the Community of Christ can truly take the payment and create a long term financial plan so that they don’t need to sell properties or other things in the future to cover expenses.

[@u0093253]

Amen to everything you have said! You are a good man.

[@sandrasnow3569]

I'm extremely grateful for what the Community of Christ has done in preserving these historical sites. I hope they always feel completely welcome to visit them just as they always have. We love our christian cousins!

[@jeffschrade4779]

Thank you for your accurate statements and inclusive language.

[@brendahall5419]

I have to say I have been baffled by so many comments admonishing members of The Curch of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints to curb their excitement about the acquisition of the Kirtland Temple. Yes, we are happy about it. Yes, we are appreciative of the care the COC has provided. Why would anyone question if the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints would continue to take care of this sacred building? All of these beautiful historical buildings and temples are painstakingly cared for and preserved.

[@brenwilliams6163]

It's called sensitivity to those of us who are hurting because of this news. I have friends who are devastated and heartbroken by this.

[@sharonstewart3513]

My heart reaches out to you Community of Christ. Thank you. May your new goals be reached!

[@Whatiftheresmore1314]

So thankful The Community of Christ was willing to sell the temple to the Church of Jesus Christ of LDS church! The LDS Church will carefully use their stewardship of the temple to share with The community of Christ and others who hold it sacred. (I’ve longed to see the day the Church of Jesus Christ would be able to bring the Kirkland temple into the fold.)The church is a temple building church. We treasure the houses of the Lord where we feel closer to Christ and bind ourselves to Him. ❤️☀️ The Kirkland temple is such a historical, sacred place in The Restoration. ☀️

[@jesselenz5452]

The historical and doctrinal significance of the Kirtland Temple cannot be overstated. It was in that temple that the priesthood keys were restored which allow us to perform temple ordinances. The Jewish people have a tradition of leaving a plate and a place at the table for Elijah on his promise return. That return has already occurred as noted in the 110th section of the Doctrine and Covenants, where the Savior restored the sealing keys which allow us to unite families together forever. Many other biblical prophets also came during that particular revelatory session, with the Savior himself being the first to appear. At the time of the dedication there were many manifestations of heavenly power, such as angels and heavenly flame. Many thought the building was on fire but it was only a spiritual power they were witnessing, not actual flame. This was seen by the young and old, inside and outside, member and non-member alike so to have this building back in the hands of the original church it came from is monumental beyond my ability to express. It is absolutely phenomenal to the nth degree. The temporary custodians have done their job, now it's time for us to pick up where we started and maintain this priceless treasure.

[@gwengold8154]

This was my thought also. If the Jewish people around the world understood what happened in the Kirtland temple, then they would be out of their minds rejoicing!! It is too bad that they don't comprehend it. Even the evangelicals would be rejoicing if they understood that the day of Pentecost in acts was nothing compared to the outpouring of the Holy Spirit at the dedication of the Kirtland temple. It is utterly impossible to overstate what a spiritual gem this temple is to the world!

[@safrew1]

I don't see the Community of Christ on the outside of these events. I see them on the inside. They are part of the restoration some of them decendents of Joseph ❤.

[@robmckay5421]

Thank you for the update. This is awesome news for the Utah based church. The Kirtland Temple will remain a historical building. It was dedicated in 1836.

[@ensignj3242]

Thank you for being respectful of our beliefs.

[@TrishTate-s2h]

Forest Dale Ward...fun. gorgeous bldg. Sit in the choir seats on one side and whisper to the person on the other side of the choir seats. The sound carries across the dome ceiling. Yes it's one of the oldest chapels in SLC. The lot across the street South was Brigham Young's farm house. The home has now been moved to the "This is the Place Heritage Park. Large pipe organ is amazing in magnutude of sound. Enjoy.