Attending 100+ churches, this is what I think of Mormonism | with David Boice

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Saints Unscripted

Saints Unscripted

Күн бұрын

We are stoked to have a conversation with David Boice on the show today! David is the host of 52 Churches in 52 Weeks and today he tells us his story of faith and adventure.
David talks about having a falling out with his church and decided to distance himself from churches to focus primarily on spirituality. However, he had a prompting to attend 52 churches in 52 weeks. David says that through his experience of attending different churches, he was humbled to learn how many differences there were in worshiping Jesus Christ. He has now visited over 100 churches!
He explains his first experience visiting a LDS Church (otherwise known as a Mormon Church) and how surprised he was in leaning about the people and the teachings. His biggest surprise about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was the emphasis on Jesus Christ.
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@BunnyWatson-k1w
@BunnyWatson-k1w Жыл бұрын
I can relate to David. I did not visit 52 churches but was close. The LDS church had everything that others did not have.
@elayneblystone7889
@elayneblystone7889 Жыл бұрын
Plus secret ceremonies Joe Smith lies polygamy no caffeine, womizers racists manipulators when they are called out fir these atrocities hiding money big money ! Members are held at bay ! Just stating facts
@lorijohnston7795
@lorijohnston7795 Жыл бұрын
In the New Testament, Jesus' message was simple: Love God and love one another. How does the LDS church help people to attain that above other churches? I attended an LDS church and a family told me that I was sitting in "their" row. I felt unwelcome.
@BunnyWatson-k1w
@BunnyWatson-k1w Жыл бұрын
@@lorijohnston7795 Sorry you had that happen. You should have told them where to go. I am in a bishopric and would have done so if I witnessed it. No family owns a pew anymore, at least not in the LDS church. But you can't blame one family you encountered as representative of the entire church. That would be a stereotype wouldn't it? Love One Another is a name of one of our hymns. It is the central message of Christ and what members are taught.
@jenniebars6575
@jenniebars6575 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't have the truth, and don't have the Holy Eucharistic which is the source and submit of our faith! Don't fall for deception. The Catholic church is the only one instituted by Jesus Chtist. Amen 🙏
@ReginaldGuivarra
@ReginaldGuivarra Жыл бұрын
@@jenniebars6575 300 years after his death? After centuries of persecution by the Romans??
@joshuafusselman3323
@joshuafusselman3323 Жыл бұрын
I really like how David Boice is open-minded and courageous enough to visit all kinds of churches (including ours), and how he tries to avoid criticizing, but rather focuses on the bridges he can make. I have seen several of his videos, and he has a really kind spirit.
@Compulsive-Elk7103
@Compulsive-Elk7103 Жыл бұрын
I agree. I grew up Catholic , left at age 16 for 7 years , and came back last year. Upon my return to God, I had a bad encounter with an LDS member and that made me mad and in my anger I started to criticize the LDS church and the believers. Became anti Mormon and really hated the LDS Then I realized that this was no way to be a Christian, so I prayed that God could change my heart from hate to love and he did. After that I began my journey on learning all things LDS , then while scrolling through my youtube feed I saw a video from @Hello Saints and have been following him since the very beginning and have learned A LOT Now I have been learning about Mormonism for over a year, and attended a temple tour recently (although I was a bit uncomfortable at times but still a nice experience) , plan on attending a few Sunday meetings soon, etc. I too have made it my mission to learn about all of the other Christian churches , I love learning about what everyone believes. So far Ive attended a Baptist service , Byzantine Catholic divine liturgy (Mass) , I plan on attending a Greek Orthodox Divine Liturgy soon, I have plans to visit a Lutheran, Episcopalian, Methodist, Baptist, LDS , etc services. I really hate how divided Christianity is and I often think that this isn't what Jesus would have wanted. Which is why I returned back to the Catholic church. But still, I love meeting my fellow Christian brothers and sisters in Christ. I spend sooo much more time learning about other Christian faiths , I really believe that we should all come together as one.
@denebuxtoo8944
@denebuxtoo8944 Жыл бұрын
@@Compulsive-Elk7103 I agree with you! I'm LDS and when I was on my mission long ago, my missionary Companions and I would go to different churches and meet the people there and learn about them also. It was pretty amazing and fascinating. It helped me strengthen my faith in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. It's okay for all of us to have questions, it's important for all of us to research everything we can to help us make healthy decisions for ourselves in our own spirituality and religious worship. You are always welcome to come to the LDS Church whenever you are ready to see what it's like. The people everywhere I have gone have always been very kind and loving in each of the Wards throughout the nation and world.
@binmyrtmind
@binmyrtmind Жыл бұрын
I grew up LDS and was fortunate to have a father who did a lot of fireside’s regarding the restoration of the church using a movie size screen painting my aunt painted of the Plan of Salvation. I knew where we came from, why we’re here and where we’re going when we die. Because of this, I thought everyone who went to a Christian Church knew and believed these things. Even though I have learned much about other belief’s I always came back to the LDS church because there’s so much more knowledge restored by the Lord and I found my questions from the Bible explained many times in the Book of Mormon. I love how a new convert said the Bible and Book of Mormon are like a Husband and Wife! In the Book of Mormon the things happening in the world today were written about and help me in my own preparation. I feel sad that some people refuse to read these words from those who lived on this continent long ago. They are of great worth for these last days.
@denebuxtoo8944
@denebuxtoo8944 Жыл бұрын
@@binmyrtmind I agree with you!
@rickhuntling7338
@rickhuntling7338 8 ай бұрын
@@denebuxtoo8944 Question? When you went door to door were you up front with what LDS believe and what Joseph Smith preached? Example; Do you tell them the KJV under your arm is a corrupted bible and the BoM is superior? Do you tell them your LDS corporation is the only true church and every other denomination is false. Do you tell them Brigham Young said the only path to to the highest salvation is through the LDS membership and their priesthood? Big question do you tell them the Book of Mormon was translated by Joseph the stone seer gazing into his treasure digging rock with his face stuffed in his hat?
@ReubenDietz
@ReubenDietz Жыл бұрын
I studied the Book of Mormon cover to cover with prayer. I found it to be a 2nd witness to the Bible. I took it to God in prayer, received a direct witness and now it’s 50 yrs later and it’s been a great ride👍😊
@SaintsUnscripted
@SaintsUnscripted Жыл бұрын
@truth.speaker
@truth.speaker Жыл бұрын
The problem I have is that it's too close to the 1769 KJV that was in Joseph's possession. He said he was using a stone in a hat to translate ANCIENT GOLD PLATES. If these plates are from before the 1769 KJV Bible, they couldn't contain the errors and mistranslations from the 1769 KJV. According to the Book of Mormon, these records were engraved on golden plates in a language called “reformed Egyptian” and buried by the last prophet, Moroni, around 421 AD. Joseph Smith, the founder of the movement, said that he was guided by an angel to the location of the plates and that he translated them by the power of God using a device called the Urim and Thummim. One of the challenges to the authenticity of the Book of Mormon is the presence of many linguistic similarities to the King James Version (KJV) of the Bible, which was published in 1611 and revised in 1769. The Book of Mormon contains not only the same words and phrases as the KJV, but also some of its translation errors, anachronisms, and textual variants. For example, one of the most cited examples of KJV errors in the Book of Mormon is Isaiah 9:1, which reads: Nevertheless the dimness shall not be such as was in her vexation, when at the first he lightly afflicted the land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali, and afterward did more grievously afflict her by the way of the sea, beyond Jordan, in Galilee of the nations. This verse is quoted verbatim in 2 Nephi 19:1, but it contains a mistranslation of the Hebrew word kaved (כָּבֵד), which means “honor” or “glory”, not “grievously”. The correct translation should be: Nevertheless there will be no more gloom for those who were in distress. In the past he humbled the land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali, but in the future he will honor Galilee of the nations, by the Way of the Sea, beyond the Jordan. This error was introduced in the 1769 edition of the KJV, which was based on earlier editions that had corrupted or misread manuscripts. The Book of Mormon follows this error, suggesting that Joseph Smith used the 1769 edition as a source. Another example is Matthew 5:22, which reads: But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. This verse is quoted almost exactly in 3 Nephi 12:22, but it contains a textual variant that is not found in the earliest and most reliable Greek manuscripts. The phrase “without a cause” (εἰκῇ) is absent from these manuscripts, implying that Jesus condemned all anger, not just unjustified anger. The phrase was probably added by later scribes who wanted to soften Jesus’ teaching or harmonize it with other passages. The Book of Mormon follows this variant, suggesting that Joseph Smith used a late and derivative text as a source. There are many other examples of KJV errors in the Book of Mormon, such as Isaiah 2:16 (which mistranslates “ships of Tarshish” as “ships of the sea”), Matthew 6:13 (which adds a doxology that is not original), and John 1:18 (which uses “only begotten Son” instead of “only begotten God”). These errors raise serious questions about how Joseph Smith translated an ancient text using a modern one that contained mistakes and alterations. One thing is certain - those errors could not have been on the gold plates. So the Book of Mormon was not taken from gold plates
@bingozonk3143
@bingozonk3143 Жыл бұрын
@@truth.speaker🤓
@suem6004
@suem6004 11 ай бұрын
@@truth.speakerhave you ever ever translated a foreign language? I have. When the speaker quotes a bible passage in Russian I immediate translate into my well versed King James Version. No one translates bible verses by making it up on the fly. Try to educate yourself.
@truth.speaker
@truth.speaker 11 ай бұрын
@@suem6004 Sue, I appreciate your view on this. It's valuable to know how you approach translation work. However what truly matters is the approach Joseph Smith used when translating. _That_ is the key here. So how did Joseph approach this work?
@laurabrooksperry3841
@laurabrooksperry3841 Жыл бұрын
I’m LDS and have been a David Boice fan for a while. I love his humility and curiosity. ❤
@52churchesin52weeks
@52churchesin52weeks Жыл бұрын
Thanks for having me on. Was an honor to meet everyone!
@TrevorMiller754
@TrevorMiller754 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all you do! You’re a force for good!
@nathanshaw6303
@nathanshaw6303 Жыл бұрын
Keep up the awesome work!
@Jman81az
@Jman81az Жыл бұрын
Bro, you need to like come to a church that’s actually spirit filled living for Christ Jesus, the Mormon church has a false Jesus, Jesus, who cannot save. Give me a reply back. I would love to talk to you.
@SuperDuppydoo
@SuperDuppydoo Жыл бұрын
Thanks for being an honest and courageous Christian! God bless you!
@rabinredulla8798
@rabinredulla8798 Жыл бұрын
Keep it up David. Thou art cool🙏
@neben
@neben 5 ай бұрын
And now he's been baptized a member. Welcome to the fold, brother 🙏🏻🙌🏻
@matthewtaylor2344
@matthewtaylor2344 5 ай бұрын
So crazy, I was so stoked when I saw!
@carlosenriqueulloa
@carlosenriqueulloa 5 ай бұрын
David Boice just got baptized! Welcome to the fold. I'm not surprised, if he's the kind of people who are willing to listen to and follow promptings.
@snahg2356
@snahg2356 5 ай бұрын
David, you have some incredible analogies and insights. I am LDS and your reminding me of all the things I just take for granted. Your also reigniting my remembrance of things I need to strengthen in my testimony and my faith in Christ. Thank you for your curiosity and insight and sharing it with the world. May God bless your journey and help you to never stop learning. Line upon line, precept on precept.
@nicholdraper8366
@nicholdraper8366 Жыл бұрын
What I love about David Boice's 52 churches in 52 weeks is that he considered our church so strange he didn't even include us in the first year. We come in as stranger than churches with snakes and heavy metal bands. It makes us seem a lot cooler than we actually are.
@fiesty161
@fiesty161 8 ай бұрын
I remember at age six I started going to all the churches where I was living. After a while, I stopped going to church or just stopped looking. At age 17 God used something I was very interested in to get my attention so he used a radio-controlled airplane. I watched him fly for two weeks while sitting on the other side of the grass field he was flying from. He finally invited me to come closer which excited me. The day before Sunday I asked if he would fly tomorrow, He said no I never fly on Sundays because I go to church and spend time with my family. I asked what church he goes to and he said Mormon. I had never heard of it and I said what is a Mormon? Now I am one and have never regretted it. I was born in Kennett, MO, and moved to Oregon at age 3.
@elissajones5154
@elissajones5154 Жыл бұрын
This might sound completely random but one suggestion I have is for this channel to get a ROUND table! Lol it drives me crazy how you and your guests have to turn completely sideways to see each other and talk to each other. A round table would allow you all to see each other without the middle person turning his/her back to someone. Just a suggestion 👍 love your channel!
@THEMADHATTRESS
@THEMADHATTRESS 6 ай бұрын
Agree
@thething7484
@thething7484 6 ай бұрын
Or just couches like other podcasts it’s more comfy and you can do longer interviews and not look weird sitting at a table
@stardustgirl2904
@stardustgirl2904 Жыл бұрын
The church is the same wherever you go! ❤💖✨️💜🌷🌸🌷🌻🌷🌸
@davidfrey5654
@davidfrey5654 Жыл бұрын
I've always wanted to do what David has done and so it's cool to live vicariously through him.
@PrimetimeKCL
@PrimetimeKCL Жыл бұрын
David, I admire your efforts and soul searching to find a religion that feels like home to your soul. Especially in this day and age where many are leaving organized religion. We welcome you, and everyone, to our LDS Congregations anytime, whether you join the church or not. Take the good that you have and let’s see if we can add to it. For me, it’s the covenants that we make, and the ongoing/modern day revelation that helps me to feel the LDS religion is the best fit for me. Best of luck to you on your journey!! Godspeed! No one in the church is perfect, we are all trying to do the best we can.
@annroe1088
@annroe1088 Жыл бұрын
Thanks David Boice for coming on the podcast .Ive watched you a few times on your 52 churches. I'm glad in all the times you have been in an lds church you have been welcomed warmly. I love all the wards I have lvved in because you become ward families so to speak because of the love we have with each other. I hope you find what you are looking for .God bless you on you journey .
@EarlAnderson-zh1jh
@EarlAnderson-zh1jh 10 ай бұрын
Enjoyed listing to this video with David. After reading the BOM in 10 days, I joined the church 6 months later at age 22. I'm now 64, and it has been the best decision of my life. Nothing else compares.
@heatherluna5075
@heatherluna5075 Жыл бұрын
My husband is a convert to Jesus Christs true church. Grateful . 😊❤
@howetechsolutions
@howetechsolutions 5 ай бұрын
"The reverence held for President Nelson" - until you go to conference and witness it personally, you won't quite understand. Prior to the start of the session, everyone is chit-chatting, there's all this noise, thousands of people talking, laughing.....and then President Nelson walks in. And you almost instantly are able to hear a pin drop from the other side of the conference center. Truly something to behold. The love and respect we have for our leaders is hard to match.
@h.peace.
@h.peace. Жыл бұрын
Love 52 in 52!!
@AnnaBellaChannel
@AnnaBellaChannel Жыл бұрын
This is an amazing project of visiting all of these churches with an open mind to go on this spiritual journey. I love this.
@zioncityofgod4818
@zioncityofgod4818 Жыл бұрын
One of my favorites Book of Mormon passages, and of the Bible is the fact, that the Lord taught the Palestinians to be perfect as their Father who was in Heaven was Perfect. When He once resurrected, goes to the Nephites, He teaches them to "be perfect as your Father who is in Heaven, and Me are Perfect". What a Great testimony of Truth in The Book of Mormon.
@henryponnefz1419
@henryponnefz1419 Жыл бұрын
David, I am so glad to have heard you. You are awesome! I love hw honest and kind you are! All the best!
@michaelbennett7561
@michaelbennett7561 Жыл бұрын
It's important to listen to and act upon those whispers which you feel are right, that's ultimately how God communicates with us.
@MarleneKerr-p6x
@MarleneKerr-p6x 8 ай бұрын
You sound a mormon a lovely humble honest man keep intouch with the missionaries they have the Holy Spirit to lead you to Christ
@cecirobe7752
@cecirobe7752 Жыл бұрын
Keep researching the church!! ~ good for you to not being afraid of that investigation... many are! And remember, we are all humans and do not always 'choose the right' in our patch of discipleship... Bravo!! If everyone did what you did, we would all have a better place to live!!
@BunnyWatson-k1w
@BunnyWatson-k1w Жыл бұрын
It's interesting having an outsider's view on the LDS church.
@IceMan_Cold_With_The_Ladies
@IceMan_Cold_With_The_Ladies Жыл бұрын
Pastor Jeff visited my ward in St. Louis. Meramec River Ward!!
@5minutefactcheck839
@5minutefactcheck839 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy listening to David Noice. I've seen several of his podcasts and I think it's really cool what he is doing.
@Beautyforashes-sr8wp
@Beautyforashes-sr8wp Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy David's videos and his sincerity of heart.
@ddaz3291
@ddaz3291 Жыл бұрын
It’s great to see he had a positive experience. The way the world is going we need more collaboration between faiths. More focus on values we share as opposed to fighting each other on the differences.
@camillebunker5429
@camillebunker5429 Жыл бұрын
Love this so much! Thank you for your friendship to our Faith!
@darlenemartim9972
@darlenemartim9972 Жыл бұрын
David is awesome, I can sense his open spirit. Do needed today
@markjacobsen8335
@markjacobsen8335 Жыл бұрын
Haha. I'm a dude who thinks the war chapters in the Book of Mormon are a drudge to get through. Such a great interview. I love David Boice. Awesome guy.
@Zeett09
@Zeett09 6 ай бұрын
Yeah. I never understood the Book of Mormon. I was told it would bring me peace. I cracked it open and started reading. It’s about war! What? Not just war. Genocide. Killing innocent children is ok? Like what is going on? Totally perplexing to me why this book has captured so many people. It’s like the Quran. Equally perplexing that so many people adhere to that book! Have you even read the Quran?
@markjacobsen8335
@markjacobsen8335 6 ай бұрын
@Zeett09 Where in the world did you get that killing innocent children is ok in the Book Of Mormon? I've heard some doozies, but that one is perhaps the most outlandish. Everything in the Book Of Mormon tells you that genocide and killing children is NOT ok. Wow.
@Zeett09
@Zeett09 6 ай бұрын
@@markjacobsen8335 really? 3 Nephi 8:9. 15 cities destroyed. All inhabitants killed including innocent children. Immoral behavior at its finest. Please explain how you support this behavior.
@Zeett09
@Zeett09 6 ай бұрын
@@markjacobsen8335 I read 3 Nephi 8:9. It describes the destruction of 15 cities including innocent children. Straight up genocide. Why is that ok? Totally immoral, despicable behavior.
@Zeett09
@Zeett09 6 ай бұрын
@@markjacobsen8335 my response keeps getting deleted. Just read 3 Nephi 8:9 and explain it.
@ScrivenArt
@ScrivenArt Жыл бұрын
Favorite statement of the whole interview: “How can I reach out and be as Christ-like as possible?” That’s really the point of learning about any church, right? How does any church help with that goal? Favorite Book of Mormon story: 1) so many!!! 2) 3 Nephi 12-18 = the BEST conference talk ever given with solutions to every problem I’ve encountered so far. Thanks for this great gift today!
@ReadRomans10
@ReadRomans10 Жыл бұрын
What is 3 Nephi?
@lanbaode
@lanbaode Жыл бұрын
The question to be asked: is the Church founded by Jesus himself some 2000 years ago?
@ReadRomans10
@ReadRomans10 Жыл бұрын
@@lanbaodeLDS is tied to Freemasonry and has another Gospel and another Jesus. Just look at the symbols on the front of their Utah museum. Not a cross to be found but the all-seeing eye of horus, pyramid, Jesuit SUN symbolism and much more... The top leaders of the Roman Catholic Church worship the Sun god of Babylon, which is ultimately Satan worship. They fulfill the prophecy of Mystery, Babylon the Great; as they worship the pagan gods of Babylon, under the guise of Christianity. No wonder this church is so closely tethered to Rome via Ecumenism.
@lanbaode
@lanbaode Жыл бұрын
@@ReadRomans10 what you know about the Catholic Church is just a caricature and and misrepresentation fed to you by your (false) teachers. The idea goes back to what is now a debunked anthropological theory by Alexander Hislop in his 1858 book The Two Babylons. It’s been repeated or amplified and spread by anti-Catholics since then but scholars today simply dismiss his claims as too unscholarly and just driven more by his antagonism (rather than scientific study) against Catholics. As you and your teachers hold this view, it just shows how outdated and stupid are your knowledge. Poor minds. Poor hearts (hate the Catholic Church). You can be smarter than that. To really know and understand what the Catholic Church officially teaches, go beyond your (false) impressions and perceptions molded by your (false) teachers. I invite you to take up and read the Bible side by side with the “Catechism of the Catholic Church.” And know that the Catholic Church is the original, true, and full Christian church founded by Jesus himself some 2000 years ago.
@jonathanray7931
@jonathanray7931 Жыл бұрын
​@@lanbaode "The question to be asked: is [it] the Church founded by Jesus himself some 2000 years ago?" Yes, it is His church church that He restored some 2000 years ago after it had been, to a large extent, horribly corrupted during Old Testament times. After that restoration some 2000 years ago and its flourishing for a while, the church again became corrupted because of reason of the Great Apostasy which ushered in the Dark Ages; or, more accurately, the Dark Age. But during the Great Apostasy, there certainly were a lot of people who tried their best to reform the Church back to what it was actually like when Christ had instituted it during His time with a majority of them ultimately failing but not for lack of effort but rather because they just didn't have any true power and authority given to them by Christ to restore His church again in the way He wanted and in His timing. But, eventually, He did restore His church - or rather, more accurately, restored the true gospel since it was that (the gospel) that was taken from the Earth by the Father because of humanity's perversion of it while the church was left on the Earth - in the 1830s through Their authorized servant, Joseph Smith Jr to never be taken from the Earth ever again but to endure forever more from the time of the second restoration of the true gospel onward through all eternity defying every attempt by unhallowed hands to again try to pervert and even this time to destroy the true gospel with malicious lies, slander, calumny, defamation, denial, obfuscation, obscurement, outright threats of annihilation etc. But the church will most positively come through virtually unscathed and burnished bright as if it had gone through a refiner's fire which, metaphorically speaking, it essentially has been going through, does now and will continue to do until the Great Jehovah Himself will say that "the work is done" similar to what He said to the Father while He (the Son) hung on the cruel cross of Calvary ie Golgotha when He finished His preparations unto all of the children of men ie mortal humans for their physical salvation given to them as a free gift. But also spiritual salvation which, unlike physical salvation, is not a free gift although it was freely given. Spiritual salvation is not a free gift because that's what Jesus Christ literally paid for with His blood, sweat and tears and so we must pay Him back for that price He paid and He asks us to pay Him back for it in really easy terms and conditions of donating our time, talents, skills, information, learning, knowledge, understanding, comprehension, wisdom and other such resources that we might have at our disposal for the building up of the Kingdom of God and HIS Christ here on the Earth. Make any sense? I sure hope it does? God bless you and yours and take care.
@stevencraven4897
@stevencraven4897 8 ай бұрын
Lehi's vision in the Book of Mormon, in both Lehi's rendering, AND Nephi's experience, we know is incomplete because they tell us so. While on my mission, my companion and I had an idea that with the "Great and Spacious, Building" and the mists of darkness and there also being forbidden paths, wondered if there would be messengers at those other paths with rods which were incomplete. (Between us, we called them "rubber rods").
@amberp2222
@amberp2222 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for brightening my morning today ☀️☺️
@speakingscripts
@speakingscripts Жыл бұрын
Best video and interview and video style that I've ever seen (shout out to Saints Unscripted and 52/52 both)!!! Thank you 52/52 and Saints Unscripted for all you have done, and giving such fabulous interviews and fast paced, entertaining, enlightening, veritable documentaries. I pray you'll keep going even after 52, even if you change to other genres, your vlogs will always be in hot demand, massive following!!! And thank you for risking your viewers seeing God alongside you, terrifying risk, that's the ultimate goal... of your work and videos, keep 'em coming, He just might!!! Thank you!!! And 23:23 time stamp "spoiler alert" following up comment from me about the ending of the book, what happens to the Nephites, I just want to remind everyone that while it's true what Cameron said about it being a tragic ending, it's actually a twist ending in that the Nephites were actually succeeded by "Nephites" not just Lamanites because in fact who are the Lamanites of the final chapters of the Book of Mormon but rather Nephites who had fallen away and started calling themselves Lamanites when in fact they were a mix, quite possibly primarily of Nephite decent. In fact, when the brethren stumbled upon one of the millions of skeletons scattered across the Great Lakes region of America on down the Mississippi valley and across, he said that it had been a Lamanite who was a Prophet of God who had lived on the western coast of America and had died in the final wars. And so, there were probably just as many Lamanites among the Nephites and who perished alongside the Nephites, as well as ample ancestral lineage Nephites who made up possibly a large portion if not all of the offending Lamanite armies and nations which wiped out the native self-identifying Nephite nation. And so it's a poetic last laugh by God, on those who identified as Lamanites and prided themselves on having wiped out the Nephites when in fact they may have themselves been Nephite ancestry and in fact wiped out the Lamanite blood just as well as Nephite to similar extent or more so. It just goes to show that it's never safe to raise an arm in violence because we always end up doing just the opposite of what we had intended and indeed when pointing the finger there are always three fingers on that person's hand pointing back at that person. During the initial passions that instigated the 2nd World War around 1938 in Europe, one such incident that incited the masses to destroy half the planet, was when a supposed decedent of the House of Judah shot a supposed citizen of such and such nation... when later it turned out that each of those two persons, their nationality, origin, religion etc, was switched, opposite that. Identically in the late 1800s there was a man who shot a US President, and at around the same time as that incident, but in a different city far way, the US President's son had fallen under the wheels of a rail car, when suddenly a man, by mere coincidence the brother of the assassin, rescued and saved the life of the US President's son (Edwin Booth/Robert Lincoln)! When we think we're hurting our enemy, it turns out to be our own who we've injured, maybe that's why Jesus said love and forgive everyone even our enemies... because it might turn out that they are in fact ourselves, our kin, our dearest friend, etc, etc. And if only the militias of those two states on that fateful morning, who surrounded that tiny jail cell in that tiny two story jail house, accosted 4 unarmed men (unless we count the 2 pepper-pistols as weapons which when fired point blank caused minor scrapes), locked in a jail cell, largely unarmed, by more than 100 state supplied, state armed (latest technology weaponry), state trained soldiers, had followed that motto of Jesus, they would not have slain innocent men, no-less the first and possibly only US Presidential candidate ever assassinated, who many experts say would've averted the Civil War and abolished slavery 20 years before anyone had ever heard of Abraham Lincoln (a thousand times better than how it was eventually carried out, dare I say slavery wasn't entirely abolished at all). And so in the end, don't we see that it's a twist ending, that poetic justice is served, and we find out later the fact, and fall to our knees uttering, truly Thine ways are just, and as Moses uttered, never before did I suppose that man is nothing, when shown all the planets of the universe. Hallelujah indeed! NOTE: The fact that Edwin Booth was tailing Robert Lincoln indicates far more reaching implications actually since coincidence doesn't exist. For anyone who never know about some or any of those historical events, you can learn more by simply googling it to the googler of all googlers none-other-than google itself, and enjoy! :-D
@icecreamladydriver1606
@icecreamladydriver1606 Жыл бұрын
I never have to think about my favorite story in the Book of Mormon. Captain Moroni and the title of Liberty. Thanks for the video.
@marcianorwood
@marcianorwood Жыл бұрын
This was very interesting. Thanks for sharing.
@MarleneKerr-p6x
@MarleneKerr-p6x Жыл бұрын
The quickest way to find the right church is to ask heaven father in faith and the holy spirit will manifest the truth to you think of your eternal life rather than an observation podcast heavenly father knows you heart and if you are saying the good and also intend to include the negative by your judgement your not ready god won't be mocked but its great you went along maybe the spirit led you I'm a latterday saint and we don't bother about talking about the negatives in other religions we just preach our own and allow all people to worship how where and what they may be prayerful fast i know the church is true and pray you will find this too thank you for your loving respectful beautiful spirit jesus loves you very much and will be your constant companion
@karukun0212
@karukun0212 Жыл бұрын
Complex topic--that was my take too as a young 16 year old who joined the church by himself, went on a mission, served and raised a large family, before leaving it 20 years ago. Lots of good things (particularly the teachings of Christ), and most LDS members are trying harder to be good than anyone you will meet. I am grateful that I joined the church and experienced what I did (especially my mission, and my scoutmaster decades), and also grateful that I graduated from it and am living the life I live now. Lots to discuss about why I left. Just understand that there is much more to anything in life than first impressions, and it takes time to peel any onion.
@clarissaoconnor5247
@clarissaoconnor5247 10 ай бұрын
I want to say Thank you to you, David. I agree with the other comments about your kind and interesting observations. I have enjoyed listening to you very much! So, I watched the temple tour video. I have some questions & thoughts.. you said you randomly found out that your great-grandfather was a member of the Church!?! That made me think that it must have sparked a myriad of questions for you like it did for me. Was it just him (how far back were your ancestors actually baptized members), what was that first conversion story? Did you ever find out more about that, like did he attend regularly? Did his wife? Why was your grandpa not baptized, etc.? The other thing I was thinking was that it might be nice for you to attend another temple tour where people are quiet and where guides actually tell you some info about each area. My guess is that since you said you came kind of last minute and right before it closed that maybe they just didn't have the volunteers there anymore who were ready to say something (like its usually a 3X5 card paragraph they read aloud, or memorize & tell about the place, i.e. the baptismal font). Or maybe you could ask a member or a family to go through with you and answer your questions as you go along if no one is guiding again? Just a suggestion that might make it a little more of a rewarding experience xo
@robertsmith9096
@robertsmith9096 Жыл бұрын
I’m sticking with the original thank you!✝️
@mp19707
@mp19707 Жыл бұрын
Great show
@SaintsUnscripted
@SaintsUnscripted Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@maryannstout7600
@maryannstout7600 5 ай бұрын
I find it interesting how one person 🎉can look at the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and feel the Holy Ghost present , yet another person can look into the same thing and see only things to pick at or criticize. I realize this happens all the time, but it’s still very interesting to me. I’m glad to welcome you into the Church. I joined when I was 11yrs.old along with my parents and sister. I’d been a wonderful journey, sometimes crazy and scary, always inspiring and rewarding. I’m 73yrs.old now and I can’t say with great fervor that I’d do it all again without any hesitation. God bless you and keep you.
@neben
@neben 5 ай бұрын
You get what you're looking for.
@trinarobinson1052
@trinarobinson1052 11 ай бұрын
I just want to know if David saw a cardinal when he went to conference ☺️. Jk. 😆 Glad you went to conference and felt the spirit. Good luck on your journey! My family were converts from all over. My husband and his family are converts. Love the gospel ♥️!
@stevenator0281
@stevenator0281 11 ай бұрын
I am a convert to the Church. I joined nearly thirty years ago. I find your channel very useful. There is another channel that I like very much and I think it would be good if you interviewed the person that runs it. The channel is called "Ready to Harvest."
@markstephenson6174
@markstephenson6174 Жыл бұрын
With regard to Cam's Book of Mormon story - I think he was referring to Alma chapter 55; the bloodless taking of the City of Gid.
@Empisee
@Empisee Жыл бұрын
Maybe. But it sounds to me more like Alma 57:30-35.
@seanmckell521
@seanmckell521 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the interesting videos ! hope good honest dialog continues
@RatuLacabukaBogirua-eq6xz
@RatuLacabukaBogirua-eq6xz 8 ай бұрын
Hi very much love watching this platform as well as with David wanting to know about the church of Jesus Christ of the Later Day Saints just want you guys know I'm watching from Fiji in the Pacific Islands, ❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏 Gb love the Gospel of Jesus Christ
@nephileonardo4822
@nephileonardo4822 Жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this vid 🎉
@James_Wisniewski
@James_Wisniewski 2 ай бұрын
Looking back, his story has a strong resemblance to Joseph Smith's, at least in the broad strokes. He experienced a crisis of faith and began looking into every church he could, prayed on it, and found his way to LDS.
@sylviabargas3340
@sylviabargas3340 19 күн бұрын
What matters is NOT how NICE a church is. What matters is whether the religion is TRUE.
@popprider4224
@popprider4224 5 ай бұрын
Welcome!
@melvinwoodruff905
@melvinwoodruff905 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@SaintsUnscripted
@SaintsUnscripted Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@lasvegashula
@lasvegashula Жыл бұрын
❤❤❤
@davidr9876
@davidr9876 9 ай бұрын
As an LDS member, I can honestly say that all churches are good, the people can be wonderful (or horrible). Whatever you feel speaks to you is what you should go with. Organized religion helps (when honestly trying to follow Jesus), but everyone has to have their own relationship with God.
@JoelMurphy77
@JoelMurphy77 Жыл бұрын
The mention of the various KZbinrs investigating the Church made me think of 2 Corinthians 13:1. "In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established."
@emjm9383
@emjm9383 Жыл бұрын
attending a LDS Christian church in SLC UT is good, but you need to attend church in Detroit, Hermosillo MX, Lagos Nigeria, etc. to really get to know the LDS people.
@ReginaldGuivarra
@ReginaldGuivarra Жыл бұрын
Or in Cairns, Australia. many indigenous people there also of wonderful character.
@behunin1963
@behunin1963 Жыл бұрын
Love these.
@briansmith9238
@briansmith9238 Жыл бұрын
The best way to focus on Christ is to read the only true and complete work of the Bible.
@suem6004
@suem6004 11 ай бұрын
4000 mentions of Christ and his teachings in the Book of Mormon is not enough for you?
@johndouglasdahl
@johndouglasdahl 11 ай бұрын
do you really mean the new testament
@suem6004
@suem6004 11 ай бұрын
@@johndouglasdahl no. The Book of Mormon mentions Jesus more often. Around 4000 times. Those who seek MORE Christ will find it here. So, with the New Testament PLUS the Book of Mormon we have a sure witness for by the mouth of two or more witnesses will my truth be established.
@lynnvanlandschoot6735
@lynnvanlandschoot6735 10 ай бұрын
I love Saints Unscripted interview of David Boice. Mr. Boice seems very intelligent and thoughtful. I like him. As I watched the interview I chuckled to myself because I could see the body language of the one in the middle (sorry, don't know his name). He was acting all kind and nonchalant, resting his head on his arm, trying to appear almost uninterested, when in reality, he was probably bursting inside with every reason in the world why this David should join the LDS church. I have another comment on this subject of 52 churches. There is one big difference in Protestantism and Mormonism. No one speaks of this but I will. A minister/pastor does not want to lose a parishioner because that is money out of his pocket. Mormons have a lay ministry. No one gets paid for being a bishop. I'm not talking about General Authorities. Just this level of worship. About the rabble rousers outside Temple Square; I once read President Kimball's comments about the opposition and how we should handle it. He said, "let the little dogs bark as the caravan passes."
@MarleneKerr-p6x
@MarleneKerr-p6x 8 ай бұрын
But make sure you are ready to except the truth and want it then the time will be right for you to recieve it by the Holy Spirit
@cjextreme
@cjextreme Жыл бұрын
You really need to hit a singles ward while you're there. That's where I found my eternal help meet.
@JD2CYLINDERNUT
@JD2CYLINDERNUT Жыл бұрын
Always good to catch up on my sleep when I attend an lds service………zzzzzzzzz
@WegottaLovett
@WegottaLovett 5 ай бұрын
Oh my goodness! What time is your church Most are in the morning. Go to bed earlier on Saturday nights!
@newin548
@newin548 Жыл бұрын
Am waiting for someone to discuss the God Head which is the clincher for most people who are investigating
@francesbass1322
@francesbass1322 Жыл бұрын
We are not Mormons. We are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints
@InAllThingsBearHisName
@InAllThingsBearHisName Жыл бұрын
Hello David and David 😂
@lindz151074
@lindz151074 Жыл бұрын
Bro on the right I think you need another read of your favourite story which sounds like Alma 57 but could be confused with Alma 55 😊
@gladegoodrich2297
@gladegoodrich2297 Жыл бұрын
Would be a much better world if everyone lived an LDS lifestyle.
@epenesaruth8650
@epenesaruth8650 Жыл бұрын
Come To 52-Countries. Start with Apia, Samoa 🇼🇸😂
@FarmerJim
@FarmerJim Жыл бұрын
Scripture references for the story about the spy?
@PaulWashington..
@PaulWashington.. Жыл бұрын
The ONLY true church is the Holy Spirit filled believer lead by Him. Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. Ephesians 4:7-13 7 But to each one of us grace has been given as Christ apportioned it. 8 This is why it[a] says: “When he ascended on high, he took many captives and gave gifts to his people.”[b] 9 (What does “he ascended” mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions[c]? 10 He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.) 11 So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, 12 to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up 13 until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ. The Lord Himself calls His anointed ones.
@ponkerfickledude3852
@ponkerfickledude3852 Жыл бұрын
New intro yee
@Capitalist_Pig314
@Capitalist_Pig314 5 ай бұрын
The Mormon religion would make a great science fiction novel. It is Kookie. But a lot of other religions Ing a lot of Christianity is kind of strange and far-fetched as well. The thing about religion is they think you need another person to intercede between you and God I’m not sure if God exists. I hope he does. But I do not have good faith. But I’m pretty sure if he wants to communicate with me he can do it directly without a minister or a profit to intercede.
@julienconnault1612
@julienconnault1612 5 ай бұрын
Great, that's also what we believe. We don't communicate with God through his church. We believe in personal revelation and everyday personal prayers.
@cubic-h6041
@cubic-h6041 Жыл бұрын
watching the guy on the right get Jesus juked by the middle guy at the end, LOL
@MarleneKerr-p6x
@MarleneKerr-p6x 8 ай бұрын
Of course the latterday saint church is better than you thaught because there are so many. Anti mormon podcasts with lies about the church if you are looking for the church which is right pray first and often for the holy spirit and protection from the adversary satan i hope you gain a testimony that the church of Jesus christ of latterday saints is true because it is and we will love to have you
@jeffteeter501
@jeffteeter501 Жыл бұрын
I would describe my religion (LDS) as 'complex simplicity'.
@MarleneKerr-p6x
@MarleneKerr-p6x 8 ай бұрын
Visit another LDS Ward and you will feel at home now but
@lindamann3970
@lindamann3970 Жыл бұрын
What faith are you btw?
@provocitynews8268
@provocitynews8268 Жыл бұрын
No comment about the Freemason symbols all over the outside of the Salt Lake City temple?
@thisishowiecamp8194
@thisishowiecamp8194 5 ай бұрын
His name wasn’t “Christ”… it was Yeshua… or contemporaries Jesus. Christ is a title, not a name
@rogervaldez-vi5hq
@rogervaldez-vi5hq Жыл бұрын
No ,,,it was men drunk from the troff and gave up sin ,than the father came and said give him everything he wants food cloth,$ home
@ClintRay2578
@ClintRay2578 Жыл бұрын
Maybe you probably better off going to a church outside of salt lake lol
@kentskoien7583
@kentskoien7583 9 ай бұрын
Is the Book of Mormon true ? Is it the word of God ? Is Joseph Smith a true prophet of God ? Is the third member of the Godhead alive and does He testify to those who earnestly seek for the truth ? If so David , why are you not a baptized member of the one and only true Church of Jesus Christ ? Quit beating it around the bush with us an be a man about this !
@jakejive7760
@jakejive7760 5 ай бұрын
He got baptized
@PrincessKryssiQT
@PrincessKryssiQT 5 ай бұрын
The LDS religion doesn't believe you are in the presence of God until you are in the Celestial room in the temple. In order to go to the temple you have to answer questions, one of which is do you pay tithing, therefore you have to pay 10% of your gross income to go be in what they believe to be God's presence. They also believe that you will be equal to God and have your own world if you keep the signs and covenants outside and inside of the temple.
@itsmeevan027
@itsmeevan027 5 ай бұрын
I always appreciate learning about my own religion, that I have been a member of my entire life and spent 2 full years teaching about, from strangers on KZbin who are willing to teach me about the things I personally believe. Really appreciate the Princess here sharing core doctrine that I've actually never heard of as a lifelong practicing member who has held leadership positions. I guess this is something I should believe.
@PrincessKryssiQT
@PrincessKryssiQT 5 ай бұрын
@pinkgorila941 you have never heard of temple recommend interviews? You need one to enter the temple to get to the Celestial room. You answer those sets of questions twice. One of the questions is about tithing. My point was that you have to pay to enter the temple . The temple is to experience all of the covenants of God. It is to attain or be in His full presence or to represent that here on earth. Jesus got after the disciples, he told them do not forbid my children from entering into my presence. He didn't have apostles or disciples collecting money from people when he taught them, rather he gathered some loaves and fishes and fed them for free physically and spiritually. So why would the church make tithing the part of entering the temple? It is a money grab. Also known as spiritual blackmail in my opinion. This was one of my shelf breakers. I know a lot of members who are low income and struggling to pay electric bills. They were told by branch presidency to sell their furniture they have no tv, no internet, one janky car that barely runs, they sit and sleep on the floor because the branch president told them they needed to give more money to the church so they could get a temple recommend. I don't understand why this branch presidency keeps doing this stuff but there have been 6 families that have left because of this written to Utah to have names removed even. Their adult children who have moved away wrote to Stake Presidency here to find out what is going on and the response was that it is a commandment and the widows mite would be rewarded. So those adult children wrote to SLC first presidency and response was it is up to Stake Presidency and they won't get involved with local matters. So a lot more now than the original local families have left, some of their children and grandchildren have left too all because of the branch presidency insisting to be in God's presence at the temple to attain to full glory by obtaining all covenants here on earth by obtaining a temple recommend a person if they can't afford tithing has to sell everything they have and make do with bare minimum and sleep and sit on the floor. Not everyone is a Molly Mormon or a Peter Priesthood like you. It would be nice to live in a Perfect Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saint bubble like you do, however not everyone had or has that luxury. Enjoy your bubble but respect that other people's experiences has caused their opinions/interpretation to be different than yours.
@jeron3966
@jeron3966 5 ай бұрын
@@PrincessKryssiQTwhen I was growing up and we literally could not afford to pay tithing we were always allowed to come in. They don’t reject you because you don’t they just ask you do because it costs money to run those temples.
@Lomochenko
@Lomochenko 5 ай бұрын
Is this guy wearing the garment of the holy priesthood? I don’t think I believe this guys story.
@RyanMercer
@RyanMercer 4 ай бұрын
Uhhh, undershirts exist out of the Church and most people wear them with button downs (and polos).
@SteelWolf13
@SteelWolf13 Жыл бұрын
There is no such thing as "Mormonism." It's "The church of Jesus Christ of Latter days Saints." However that's a mouthful. So "You're the guys who have the book of Mormon so you're all Mormons so visive you all believe in Mormonism." So For those of us who really dislike the term "Mormonism" to tag their religion what would others label us? "LDS" works. CoJCoLDS also a bit wordy. Pronunciation Kodge-Kolds" sounds really weird.
@rutht2023
@rutht2023 Жыл бұрын
If we believe in the Bible are we called Bibleists? Bibleism? I suppose it should work the same way.
@SteelWolf13
@SteelWolf13 Жыл бұрын
@@rutht2023 No you are called religious.
@rutht2023
@rutht2023 Жыл бұрын
@@SteelWolf13 :) There are people that don't use the Bible that are religious too. ;)
@SteelWolf13
@SteelWolf13 Жыл бұрын
@@rutht2023 Bingo.
@rutht2023
@rutht2023 Жыл бұрын
@@SteelWolf13 I think we of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints should refer to ourselves as "Saints". That is what believers during New Testament times were called. (61 references) Also the believers found in the Book of Mormon are called "Saints". (28 references), and (at least 100 references) in the Doctrine and Covenants. "Saints"is part of the name of our church, and refers to the believers. This is a simplified response, and I understand that there are multiple meanings for the word "saint". :)
@BunnyWatson-k1w
@BunnyWatson-k1w Жыл бұрын
Here's what I think: 1. We need better songs. Hymns are okay but there needs to more modern songs. A live band would be a good idea for a worship service. 2. Help with getting new members/non-members up to speed with all the terminology we use. 3. We need a better nickname since Mormon is forbidden. We know the full name of the church but what is the short form/nickname? 4. The public needs a better education of what is done in temples. There is a lot of urban legend about temples as a result. 5. Evangelicals need a better education on what LDS members believe. There is too much myths about the church theology, history, temples, scriptures, etc. 6. Ban the protestors at General Conference. 7. Better work needs to keep Gen-Z and Millennials more active in the church. The numbers don't look good for the future activity rate of those age groups.
@skywalker5026
@skywalker5026 Жыл бұрын
1. Hymns are holier and more reverent. 2. Most definelty 3. LDS 4. For sure but need to tread lightly with that one as it’s sacred 5. Again for sure, people just need to learn more about our faith and get myths debunked 6. It’s their right by the constitution and God (agency). Obviously it’s disruptive and disrespectful, but what can you do. 7. Agreed, luckily I’ve seen youth be really active and into it or the opposite.
@rutht2023
@rutht2023 Жыл бұрын
A band would not increase reverance and worship. I think if everyone would sing like they mean it, that would increase the reverence as well as the energy of the songs. I believe the shorter name should be 'saints' that is what the church members in the New Testament are called. That is what they are called in the Book of Mormon. Since we may want to recognize the times we are in, we might say Latter Day Saints. :) I am not meaning to be annoying, just reminding you that our name is God given and we need to honor that.
@rexlion4510
@rexlion4510 Жыл бұрын
The mistake Mr. Boice falls into is, relying on his feelings and emotions to guide him spiritually. It's the same pit most LDS fall into, as they seek an emotional experience in prayer to learn "if the BOM is true". Instead, one should rely on the written word of God (the Bible) and the faith that has been handed down to us from Jesus and the Apostles He chose back then. Christians look to the Bible foremost, with the help of reason and tradition; as sinners redeemed only by God's grace and only through faith, true Christians know that they could never become like God. LDS look to their own church and its teachings (from the BOM and other neo-spiritual writings) along with heavy reliance on their own good deeds (tithing, mission, abstinence from certain drinks, legalisms, etc.) for the means to become eventual Gods in their own right. That is a pseudo-Christianity and a heretical path.
@ReginaldGuivarra
@ReginaldGuivarra Жыл бұрын
We have a communicable witness, a true & wondrous gift from God. Isaiah Ch 5 Vrs 20 "Woe unto them who call good for evil and evil for good."
@HaleStorm49
@HaleStorm49 Жыл бұрын
Christ never said we were saved by Grace. The do nothing / be nothing churches are experiencing the fruit of pseudo Christianity.
@rexlion4510
@rexlion4510 Жыл бұрын
@@HaleStorm49 It is true that Jesus didn't mention grace in the context of salvation. Nor did Jesus mention abstention from hot drinks, or abortion, or a host of other things. So what is your point? Are you suggesting that the words in red letters (the things Jesus is quoted as saying) are the only part of the Bible worthy of your consideration? Do you reject the letters of Paul and the truths they contain? "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast."(Ephesians 2:8-9)
@rutht2023
@rutht2023 Жыл бұрын
​@@rexlion4510 You stopped quoting too early. Ephesians 2:10 says we are created for works and we should do them. "For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them." Let's not boast of ourselves, but do good works, and continue in faith, and rely on the mercy of our Lord.
@rutht2023
@rutht2023 Жыл бұрын
1 John 3:2 "Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is." Just 1 of at least 14 scriptures that I can find in the New Testament that talks of us being sons (daughters, children) of God. Look at the end of the verse above. "...we shall be like him...". There are verses in the old testament that refer to this as well. Now, you may not agree with it, but if you are honest, and humble, you will see that there is plenty of evidence within the Bible for what the Latter-day Saints teach.
@kevinparkin3322
@kevinparkin3322 Жыл бұрын
Try this simple test: Ask a church pastor, priest, rabbi, imam or an athiest "If I follow your religious guidelines, what will be my ultimate destiny?" The Latter Day Saint answer is, "After much growing and learning and qualifying, you will become like God Himself". Latter Day Saints think BIG and shoot for the top. The Nicean Creed pushed by Athanasius is a 4th century 'guess' about the nature of God emphasizing the uni-essence of God and Jesus. Constantine adopted the Creed (over Arius' view that God and Jesus are separate) as a political maneuver to unite his empire. King Henry created the Anglican Church for political power. The Sanhedrine killed Jesus for political power. The Taliban and Ayatollahs run their countries for political power. Communist China is athiest for political power. See a pattern? America's Founding Fathers intentionally separated Polititcal Power from the Right of Religious Freedom ... so, Jesus Himself could restore His Church via a flawed human named Joseph Smith ... and today, we can Shoot For The Top and grow and learn and qualify to become like God Himself.
@pamcatello9136
@pamcatello9136 Жыл бұрын
What. Protesters
@clearstonewindows
@clearstonewindows Жыл бұрын
Every time the Church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints has General conference, there are a bunch of people that come to protest.
@alyceallred3888
@alyceallred3888 Жыл бұрын
Please remove the pride colored frame and and pride colored robed Savior from the front of your set.
@RyanMercer
@RyanMercer Жыл бұрын
Ummm, how are brown and blue pride colors? Those are period authentic dyed garments. The frame also isn't "pride colored"... the "pride" colors are a hot pink, red, orange, yellow, green, turquoise, indigo, violet and in that specific order...
@williamcharles2117
@williamcharles2117 Жыл бұрын
Any church can have nice people, but still be lacking any sort of defensible doctrine. I'm a nevermo ex-Catholic atheist/agnostic who sees irrationalism in any claims of divinely revealed knowledge.
@suem6004
@suem6004 11 ай бұрын
Then sit home with a gun to do yourself in for the pointlessness of all life. The rest of us have truth. Truth gives peace and happiness and hope. Inspires people to be kind to you. But sit and sulk and navel gaze away and be sure to act self righteous that you are so superior to others
@cruisebrothersindependenta6890
@cruisebrothersindependenta6890 Жыл бұрын
David, it's okay if you don't understand everything in the LDS church right now. Thanks for keeping an open mind and checking us out rather than just believing what others have said. I hope you will continue on your faith journey and find the right church for you wherever it leads.
@suzyvivian7514
@suzyvivian7514 5 ай бұрын
Keep looking
@ralphmiller2265
@ralphmiller2265 Жыл бұрын
David Boice is a really good, humble guy and I appreciate his work and research.
@marileepoorman4361
@marileepoorman4361 Жыл бұрын
"So much here" = the fullness of the gospel. 😊
@p1ll0wt0p
@p1ll0wt0p Жыл бұрын
I've been watching David's channel for a while, and I have enjoyed being a passenger on his journey. I love that he came on your channel! Really sincere guy. Thank you!
@SaintsUnscripted
@SaintsUnscripted Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear you enjoyed the episode ☺
@ReginaldGuivarra
@ReginaldGuivarra Жыл бұрын
God bless, I found the truth too. I am an indigenous Australian. Many of my people have joined also.
@philliplambert769
@philliplambert769 Жыл бұрын
Wow. Welcome brother. My brother inlaw is from Ahman Land he joined the Church too.
@ReginaldGuivarra
@ReginaldGuivarra Жыл бұрын
@@philliplambert769 Thanks Phillip, Arnhem Land has many real traditionalist Aboriginal Australians.
@lanbaode
@lanbaode Жыл бұрын
What is truth?
@ReginaldGuivarra
@ReginaldGuivarra Жыл бұрын
@@lanbaode It is something that will truly set you free. Lies die because truth is.
@lanbaode
@lanbaode Жыл бұрын
@@ReginaldGuivarra you are describing, not defining. (BTW, in relation to Mormonism, remember “truth” is not based on or proven by “testimony” no matter how many but by “objective reality.” Claims are not evidence, they are different!) follow the fundamental rules of defining: do not use the word being defined in the definition.
@boba.6478
@boba.6478 Жыл бұрын
I love David's channel. I happened to notice one of his videos that youtube recommended on the right of the screen and was drawn to it. I remember saying out loud, "I have got to check this out." I watched every one. I found you guys in a similar way; youtube put you up as a recommendation while I was watching his channel. I usually watch you guys while eating lunch at work. I love you guys; you're great, but I have to admit, 52 is the only channel, show, or anything of that sort that I am eagerly anticipating and check, "has he put up another one; has he put up another one?" I was not a horrible person before, but because of my spending virtual time with David Boice I am a much better person. More patient, more empathetic, easier to find light in others. It's great. I am also interactive now. Because of David I transformed from a passive youtube watcher to an interactive commenter. That has actually been very good for me and hopefully someone else has benefitted as well. Thank you David. And thank you David and Cam. Great work.
@SaintsUnscripted
@SaintsUnscripted Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your heartfelt appreciation for David's channel and our team. It's awesome to hear how David's content has had such a positive impact on your life. We're thrilled that you've also enjoyed our channel and have found the inspiration to become more engaged and interactive. Your kind words and support mean a lot to us. We'll continue working hard to provide great content. Thank you for being a part of our community!
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