BACK 4 BLOOD: Bot Mom Causing Chaos for Andy, Jane and Mike | Back 4 Blood Co-op on Xbox Series X

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@CinnaScone
@CinnaScone 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, whoever edited this, for acknowledging what we were all thinking re: Mike’s restraint with the exploding barrel.
@whoneedstosleep
@whoneedstosleep 3 жыл бұрын
That moment of "Have I grown old, or is THIS game just hard?" after the first team wipe felt SO relatable. I feel seen 🤣
@BitBanger41
@BitBanger41 3 жыл бұрын
As a gamer who is rapidly approaching 40, hearing you all complain about how things are all changey, warms my heart. I'm not alone. :D
@valiroime
@valiroime 3 жыл бұрын
As a long time gamer myself (who is rapidly approaching 60), I can empathize. The first video game I ever played was a coin op version of _Pong_ back in the early ‘70s.
@BrotherMag
@BrotherMag 3 жыл бұрын
I empathize since I just turned 41
@donthaveajungian
@donthaveajungian 3 жыл бұрын
I thought maybe I was just bad at the game, but the devs have acknowledged it's much harder than intended and are scrambling to fix the balance. Shame because the actual gameplay loop is fun as hell.
@nimz8521
@nimz8521 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the card system is very unbalanced. We were playing this exact same level but drew two enemy cards of the armored crushers. They would spawn six at a time and there was just no way we could get through them.
@DonArlem
@DonArlem 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, there's no reason to shame it. They're working on it, aren't they
@nickgarcia1292
@nickgarcia1292 3 жыл бұрын
The patch they came with this month actually made it harder too😫
@travislyonsgary
@travislyonsgary 3 жыл бұрын
I do admit I highly enjoy the undead being actually tough in this version compared to left for dead
@HudsonHorse
@HudsonHorse 3 жыл бұрын
If only there was a Nerascus on every single game…
@gothmissstress
@gothmissstress 3 жыл бұрын
Then they wouldn't be such a legend anymore
@Chris_Sizemore
@Chris_Sizemore 3 жыл бұрын
There is only one Nerascus. Do miss that guy.
@michaelstarr2747
@michaelstarr2747 3 жыл бұрын
I had to check that Nerascus didn't post this haha
@firdawesome3203
@firdawesome3203 3 жыл бұрын
"I'M ASTOUNDED BY MIKE'S RESTRAINT WITH A RED BARREL RIGHT BY THE SNITCH" Thanks for subtitling my thoughts :D
@TheReZisTLust
@TheReZisTLust 3 жыл бұрын
The Snitch needs a reskin to be gold
@azuredragoon2054
@azuredragoon2054 3 жыл бұрын
Considering Snitches will go off when they're killed? Yeah, I don't blame Mike for showing restraint.
@ghostderazgriz
@ghostderazgriz 3 жыл бұрын
"Ah! There's zombies in the safe room!" Must be one of those "safety not included" safe rooms.
@azof02
@azof02 3 жыл бұрын
Those sneaky Vault-Tec engineers.
@nickgarcia1292
@nickgarcia1292 3 жыл бұрын
Zombie safe room, includes cleaners for dinner
@katfromthekong414
@katfromthekong414 3 жыл бұрын
"I just feel like an old man who's confused by a tiktok or something" 😂 Welcome to the club Mike. It's a bit dusty here but we have a club house and cookies
@valiroime
@valiroime 3 жыл бұрын
So, do we have to covert to the Dark Side to get the cookies?
@katfromthekong414
@katfromthekong414 3 жыл бұрын
@@valiroime lol if by 'dark side' you mean 'be old enough to have used a rotary phone' then probably yes ... although we do give out cookies to the kiddos now and then too 🍪🍪🍪 😉 ... not to be unintentionally creepy here 😂🙊
@matthewnanney4087
@matthewnanney4087 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the chalk candy bowl with some cough drops mixed in
@katfromthekong414
@katfromthekong414 3 жыл бұрын
@@matthewnanney4087 😂👏🏼
@CaitlinRC
@CaitlinRC 3 жыл бұрын
The bots clearly watched your content before and thinks that's the way to play - through chaos.
@kyleshaw5186
@kyleshaw5186 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, chaos is a ladder!
@Amaranthyne
@Amaranthyne 3 жыл бұрын
Jane: “Nobody ever rp with Mike” Does this spell the end of the Oxventurerers 😱 Find out next week on…
@james88298
@james88298 3 жыл бұрын
Well janes not wrong
@rizkyanandita8227
@rizkyanandita8227 3 жыл бұрын
After watching the Halloween obe: yeah about that.
@frodobaggins7710
@frodobaggins7710 3 жыл бұрын
19:48 At least that accidental grenade didn't alert everyone in the level this time, eh Mike?
@jyjy111
@jyjy111 3 жыл бұрын
Mike: Old man shouts at cloud… based system 😉
@gothmissstress
@gothmissstress 3 жыл бұрын
I loooove OxBox co-op!! So glad to see this up on the channel again
@Marthe06
@Marthe06 3 жыл бұрын
I so wanted to like this game seeing as we may never get a Left 4 Dead 3 but I hate the fact everything has to be done online even single player. Rant aside I love it when they play co-op games. It's always hilarious when you stick careful guy Andy with guns ablazing Mike and puckish rogue Jane as chaos always ensues!!!
@joykingsings
@joykingsings 3 жыл бұрын
You’ll be able to play single player with campaign progression after their December update. Agree that it should’ve been there from the start.
@Marthe06
@Marthe06 3 жыл бұрын
@@joykingsings Good to know. Thanks for the update 👍.
@skyethenerd1054
@skyethenerd1054 3 жыл бұрын
Its like if u swapped around their D&D characters
@CodaBlair
@CodaBlair 3 жыл бұрын
@@skyethenerd1054 do you switch jane and andy because egbert is pretty guns blazing and not careful at all.
@xxmoonmassacrexx7218
@xxmoonmassacrexx7218 3 жыл бұрын
Automatic “like” for a DA:Origins reference lol
@MadnessInLivingColor
@MadnessInLivingColor 3 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t matter what the game is; Oxbox 3-player videos are some of the best on KZbin.
@Artificer1911
@Artificer1911 3 жыл бұрын
I had forgotten about this game. From the looks of things, I can go right back to forgetting it.
@codym4340
@codym4340 3 жыл бұрын
The devs recently admitted that the normal difficulty is too hard. And that it’s designed for people to lay easy until you get more powerful cards
@sgtpastry
@sgtpastry 3 жыл бұрын
Jane: "I'm sorry, Mike, I can't hear you over my -" brrrrrrrrrt
@JustaMuteCat
@JustaMuteCat 3 жыл бұрын
Alternative Title: Bot Mom copycats Mike’s way of playing Hitman on B4B, to the exasperation of him, Jane and Andy.
@wipplewopple1876
@wipplewopple1876 3 жыл бұрын
Andy: "Remember, short, controlled bursts!" Also Andy: *Mag dumps a micro uzi into the space between the zombies in a horde*
@ricoaioa
@ricoaioa 3 жыл бұрын
Finally I love coop gameplays. Next time bring Luke or Ellen too 😉 Or maybe the elusive Nerascus will pop up to save the day as she/he used to
@CodaBlair
@CodaBlair 3 жыл бұрын
Ellen does tend to be good at games where you shoot stuff, although that would likely be less good for this because Ellen is good with aim and I'm not sure how good she is at something like this
@alienistic512
@alienistic512 3 жыл бұрын
To drop the boxes, you only need to equip something else. Y to switch weapons or any other equipment mapped to a button.
@rubiconcinematics2910
@rubiconcinematics2910 3 жыл бұрын
16:35 - "Ooh, I've been puked on again..." :( Soo... How's Mike adapting to the life of a new parent? XD
@ChrisPreece
@ChrisPreece 3 жыл бұрын
Much as I love seeing OxBox doing co-op again this game feels almost broken in terms of difficulty and it did feel like it was starting to grate on them.
@travis-vesely
@travis-vesely 3 жыл бұрын
the game curves UP like it should but is challenging for sure and they started mid way and im not sure how much they played prior but since they have starter decks still id say they did a no no and jumped into a later stage for their first game... your meant to play the levels prior to build up good guns, team boons from the shop and get used to your cards and their bonus one at a time instead of like 5 at once which is like starting your first bike ride on a hiking trail and not around the block lol gives them more room to be hurt so dont blame the game lol if they play more im sure they will champ this game easy being a 3 man team already😁
@travis-vesely
@travis-vesely 3 жыл бұрын
​@@spiffymarc i dont think its fair when the comments are full of this and people just outright saying the game is bad and people now avoiding it. did i say it was easy? does a statement about how the devs finding a bug and are trying to fix it mean the game is bad? should the game be avoided just cause you watched ox struggle to play the game out of order just so they could make a video people would wanna watch? lets face it you guys wouldnt have watched it if they were serious and did everything right and there was no chaos, and they know that. but it doesnt matter, youve already made up your mind, the fact you tried using that dev statement to try to defend people calling the game bad shows what lengths you will go to. its fine, ill enjoy the game for the rest of ya. just sucks so many people have made judgment from this one video based on entertainment instead of one based on information, anyways im sorry i got heated here but i think the game is great and would love to watch them play it more and in order but from the onslaught of people hating it in the comments cause they dont understand it im sure we wont see another of these vids, oh well
@pmonday
@pmonday 3 жыл бұрын
@@travis-vesely I'm avoiding the game because I've played it and the problems make it not fun. The fact that it's broken is a perfectly good reason to not play it until it's fixed.
@yt_Ajay_
@yt_Ajay_ 3 жыл бұрын
If that's Jane squeaking at 14:03, that's the funniest sound in nearly ten years of watching OXbox that I've ever heard come out of her 😂
@Grant-TR
@Grant-TR 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone else finding this oddly nostalgic? re: OutsideXbox 2013 era
@madisonmcclure8243
@madisonmcclure8243 3 жыл бұрын
Mike: “How am I out of ammo, again?!” Well, you see Mike, when a man and a trigger really love each other…
@nickgarcia1292
@nickgarcia1292 3 жыл бұрын
Some of my favorite streamers picked this game up when it came out saying they were going to play the whole game then after getting their butt kicked stopped playing after day 1. It's a tough game man, happily surprised you all are enjoying b4b.
@kcollier2192
@kcollier2192 3 жыл бұрын
I think the developers started the game difficulty in Full Mike Mode and forgot to switch it off...
@TurbanatorUK
@TurbanatorUK 3 жыл бұрын
From what I could tell, this looked harder and for some reason less fun than Left 4 Dead and I think you could hear it in your voices, the frustration at the number of deaths and lack of ammo. Perhaps the sheer difficulty spike when you just leave the safe house was off putting for me and multiple special zombies at the same time.
@Zoso14892
@Zoso14892 3 жыл бұрын
Granted I didn't play L4D much but I found this infinitely easier and more enjoyable. A friend and I have completed the game a couple of times on veteran and have managed a good portion of it on Nightmare. We'd probably manage more but speed running is dull. There was a few particularly unfair things that have been patched out but once you wrap your head around the card system it's a really enjoyable game!
@Angrymuscles
@Angrymuscles 3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, this brings back all the good memories. Left 4 Dead lookalikes are more than welcome. Now I just need some friends to play the game with.
@tomeberth8938
@tomeberth8938 Жыл бұрын
Cool-Hand Mike on the Minigun! 😭 100,000 rounds of pain per minute, and he had the will of a monk with that red barrel lol Can’t believe we passed through that vinyl store & couldn’t even get a lousy Midnight Riders shirt though? I didn’t Dead Carnival my way to the helicopter for this! ;P
@noskillzdad5504
@noskillzdad5504 3 жыл бұрын
"I put some barbed wire" Breaker proceeds to walk over it completely ignoring it. LOL (Even normal zombies ignore those)
@KOU-ZAI
@KOU-ZAI 3 жыл бұрын
Not expecting to see this game played in its entirety, but I definitely wouldn't mind watching more of this in a proper livestream.
@spikie852
@spikie852 3 жыл бұрын
18:47 "Molotov.... out!"
@warawick
@warawick 3 жыл бұрын
"Oh they're everywhere..." Michelle Branch has entered the game.
@duanegee7636
@duanegee7636 3 жыл бұрын
Mike being confused by the cards, was exactly how I felt playing this game...and Tik Tok frightens me, im gettin old
@Hideshiseyes18
@Hideshiseyes18 3 жыл бұрын
There's probably a good game in there somewhere but honestly I will never invest the live service grind hours to find it. I miss L4D. Still I'm glad you guys had some fun with it
@fgcvhhbvjhbj
@fgcvhhbvjhbj 3 жыл бұрын
You can press Y to change guns which drops the box. That's why RB was dropping the box, because it was switching to the throwable
@derwykynger
@derwykynger 3 жыл бұрын
"That's not allowed! That's illegal!" - Me, everytime I do bad at a game :D
@andrewharbison834
@andrewharbison834 3 жыл бұрын
Omg absolutely loved this hope they keep going on back 4 blood
@jankeydadon3969
@jankeydadon3969 3 жыл бұрын
andy set up bot mom. cold blooded.
@AlexKPorell
@AlexKPorell 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! Someone else noticed 😅 Andy totally shot the snitch, then let Jane and Mike blame BotMom
@aJohnnyBenton
@aJohnnyBenton 3 жыл бұрын
“Guy’s like a vomit fountain over there” - Mike
@kaptainkoala8476
@kaptainkoala8476 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to cross play and teach you guys the ropes. For example you can get the alarmed doors open safely by firing your gun in the air near them. The zombies on the other side will bust through without triggering the alarm.
@masondeross
@masondeross 3 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing right bumper isn't the button to drop; it was just dropping because they had throwables available and that causes a drop as a side effect when they pull out the explosive.
@Icam_here
@Icam_here 3 жыл бұрын
interesting to see the game play, also that note of who ever edited this way a nice touch
@chrisgoblin4857
@chrisgoblin4857 3 жыл бұрын
There's always a fight to see who gets Mom in my friend group lol. Once you get the cards you can make some really good melee builds. I think the Fire Axe is my favourite weapon haha.
@morkelub8756
@morkelub8756 3 жыл бұрын
the trueth is what they thought was a bot was just Luke in disguise just like Ray Sunshine the third
@FoNgThOnG
@FoNgThOnG 3 жыл бұрын
Ready to watch the crew bash on the Bot lol
@nathangoedeke694
@nathangoedeke694 3 жыл бұрын
Bot Mom is the Leroy Jenkins of the group
@camerongrant7504
@camerongrant7504 3 жыл бұрын
So, bots in this game can’t actually alert the horde, no matter what you do. The zombies were just the regular groups of enemies, not an alerted horde
@destealthlesbian4286
@destealthlesbian4286 3 жыл бұрын
Snitchuation was *right there* and you didn't see it.
@tba113
@tba113 3 жыл бұрын
The crew's "am I just getting old?" comments really hit home. On the plus side, gradually turning into L4D's Bill isn't so bad...
@matthewnanney4087
@matthewnanney4087 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, the only L4D character to canonically die ; p
@shoshonnie7796
@shoshonnie7796 3 жыл бұрын
Can you guys please do some Rider’s Republic gameplay!🙏🏽it looks like a really cool game and i know you guys would put your classic comedic takes on it.
@aBardThatRolls1s
@aBardThatRolls1s 3 жыл бұрын
Snitches can be killed without alerting a horde by blowing them up with a grenade or a barrel or even a car.
@merrickc1876
@merrickc1876 3 жыл бұрын
The boomer infected looks way more buff than i remember..
@notoriousbmc1
@notoriousbmc1 3 жыл бұрын
"Want you back...Want you back...Want you back 4 Blood"
@jedfromyourlocallibrary
@jedfromyourlocallibrary 3 жыл бұрын
Have to agree on the absurd range of zombie projectile vomit.
@Zzinged
@Zzinged 3 жыл бұрын
07:49 Given the fact the devs admitted the swarms and specials are a bit overtuned, one could argue this entire game is all tactical retreat, all the time.
@camerontgore
@camerontgore 3 жыл бұрын
Turns out Bot Mom was the true 5th member of the Beaples 🤣
@blakearmentrout7717
@blakearmentrout7717 3 жыл бұрын
Sticky boxes they cant put down, did they just find a bunch of Mimics!? :O
@Gilldoza
@Gilldoza 3 жыл бұрын
[BOT] MOM, what are you like?
@johnny05100
@johnny05100 3 жыл бұрын
Such a great co-op experience
@gamepassghost
@gamepassghost 3 жыл бұрын
Feeling really saintly knowing that not even oxboxtra corps (see what i did there) wanted to play as Mom. Guess it’s just me and the three other healers out there…
@joshuamoore8560
@joshuamoore8560 3 жыл бұрын
Jane: "Look at my magnum! Pew!" 😄
@valiroime
@valiroime 3 жыл бұрын
I know I’m a bit older than most of you, but do magnums actually go _pew_ now? When I was younger, they went _BANG_ !
@deeya
@deeya 3 жыл бұрын
Bots still not optimized it would seem, since L4D bots understood proper procedures for special infected like the Witch.
@thepopeofatheism
@thepopeofatheism 3 жыл бұрын
It's really not that weird to pop down to the gas station for a couple of tall boys.
@Ahatch0788
@Ahatch0788 3 жыл бұрын
Bots can kill snitches without alerting lol
@boots_tx1582
@boots_tx1582 3 жыл бұрын
Most Tall boys need an arm to be consumed, lol, not all but most.
@Michael_Lindell
@Michael_Lindell 3 жыл бұрын
Remember: Snitches cause glitches.
@camerontgore
@camerontgore 3 жыл бұрын
Having seen your Left for Dead videos and a bunch of other content creators playing this game. I can say that you all are fine and this game is broken
@sgtraytango
@sgtraytango 3 жыл бұрын
Nerascus wouldn't have let any of this happen
@altmerx5264
@altmerx5264 3 жыл бұрын
This game looks fun
@MikesPortugal-zm4oy
@MikesPortugal-zm4oy 6 ай бұрын
KMF: Raymondo, bot mom or Mike in RP Co op mode?
@Fleur9999
@Fleur9999 3 жыл бұрын
Now I'm new to the Something4Something series, but why is the Orphan of Kos here?
@Zarinaea.
@Zarinaea. 3 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for a B4B ever since it released on game pass, please do a stream if it's possible, love you guys 😘💯
@virtuousheathen981
@virtuousheathen981 3 жыл бұрын
Never disrespect Mom, the best character in B4B!
@PatrickLongblkwhtrbbt
@PatrickLongblkwhtrbbt 3 жыл бұрын
Player 2 has snartled the snitch!
@CassBlackflame
@CassBlackflame 3 жыл бұрын
So, here's a little bit of info: 1)Snitches don't alert the Horde when they are rapidly killed. Mutated Snitches, on the other hand always alert the horde and you were fighting Mutated ones. 2) There is a Witch-like enemy called The Hag. 3)The Cleaners (A.k.a. as the playable characters) are immune to the virus. How? It is not yet known but this is told by the characters when Doc and someone else (Might be an NPC, can't remember) are in the same team. 4)That was a Barret .50 cal. 5)The Snitch in the Warehouse was Andy's doing, not Bot Mom. Bots actually don't alert Snitches by the line of sight or Birds and they will drop ammo for the players. 6)You use Y to put down the boxes 7) You haven't been insta-killed, you have simply run out of downs so no revives for you unless via a defibrillator 8) With RB you select the grenade, you don't throw them. To throw them, you press RT once you've selected them. 9) Jim is a hunter so the orange anorak fits him 10) From 3-1 and 3-2 you have gone to 2-1 because the host left 11)The Breaker at the Gas Station will always spawn because it is tied to the mission of 2-1. 12)From 2-1 you have gone to 1-2 where The Ogre spawns because 1-2 always spawns an Ogre and their spawn is fixed. 13)There is a perk card that lets you have infinite ammo for your pistols but you have to unlock it through trade lines, also SMGs and Pistols share the same ammo, except for the Magnum (Which share the ammo with Rifles) and the Desert Eagle (Which uses Sniper Rifle ammo) 14) The cards do change how difficult will be for you. You can have cards that have good bonuses but with maluses or mediocre cards with no maluses 15)The difficulty ramps up the more you play. Usually, the 1-1 of any act is easier but, the more you progress through an act, the more difficult things will become. Because, and here is the thing of Back 4 Blood, an Act is equivalent of a Campaign of L4D. Great video notheless. It is always happy to see people playing Back 4 Blood
@uncannymeerkat
@uncannymeerkat 3 жыл бұрын
Andy: Did you buy bandages at the beginning? Mike: Uh, yes... Andy: Did you use them? Mike: Uh, no... Anyone else being reminded of the Overwatch days?
@Neeferth
@Neeferth 3 жыл бұрын
Bot Mom has ruined more runs than I can count. Heck, Bot ANYBODY ruins my team.
@MRSupernova100
@MRSupernova100 3 жыл бұрын
The sheer lack of exploration by you guys is astounding. I love it.
@WildfireMagni
@WildfireMagni 3 жыл бұрын
And just like that, it was all ogre.
@ACruelBadger
@ACruelBadger 3 жыл бұрын
It's all ogre now. Shrek is love... Shrek is life.
@OptimusSledge
@OptimusSledge 3 жыл бұрын
Backstreet's back 4 Blood.
@bugroombender6642
@bugroombender6642 3 жыл бұрын
Good times
@ADean415
@ADean415 3 жыл бұрын
"Bug?" Actually, I think you'll find its a virus.
@SG_Dave
@SG_Dave 3 жыл бұрын
Don;'t know when this was filmed but it;s my understanding that the balance on this game was alllll out of whack in the first few weeks. When 3 of the tall boi's showed up that was a balance issue that the game would gradually spawn more and more special enemies when it shouldn't be.
@Michael_Lindell
@Michael_Lindell 3 жыл бұрын
I am resemblance! I'm not quite right! I am Bot Mom!
@velyrofak-maal9611
@velyrofak-maal9611 3 жыл бұрын
A "Klick" is a kilometer. So..... 1/1000th of a klick to a meter? how to maths?
@valiroime
@valiroime 3 жыл бұрын
Which is a bit over half a mile to those of us who are metricly impaired Americans
@GrimKnightlXl
@GrimKnightlXl 3 жыл бұрын
I love how hard they make this
@JustaComfortChannel
@JustaComfortChannel 3 жыл бұрын
This has to be on easy even the medium level one is hard asf
@mattgarrett2583
@mattgarrett2583 3 жыл бұрын
Lol. Bots can't alert snitches or trigger birds
@God_Machine
@God_Machine 3 жыл бұрын
Bot Mom has always been my favorite OX character.
@TheReZisTLust
@TheReZisTLust 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer my moms to be Top
@robodogmech
@robodogmech 3 жыл бұрын
kebab wrap 2886 thank you so much mike reading out your name reminded me I had food left in the oven
@narcspector
@narcspector 3 жыл бұрын
I TOO, AM *ASTOUNDED* BY MIKE'S RESTRAINT WITH THE RED BARREL RIGHT BY THE SNITCH!! I was thinking "SHOOT IT! It'll be dead before it can scream anyway!" Incredible. As Jane said, *"EVERYTHING IS ALL DIFFERENTY"*
@TheAngelScorn
@TheAngelScorn 3 жыл бұрын
9:48 Jane: "Ooh a Liser saght"... erm a what?
@madmartigan879
@madmartigan879 3 жыл бұрын
Tips if the OXBox team or anyone else wants to play back 4 blood: 1: the melee bash does not interrupt your reload Animation 2: diversifying the teams primary weapons and sharing ammo can help prevent running out of ammo at the wrong time 3: Bot survivors are worse than useless, they can be an outright hazard acting against you
@Zoso14892
@Zoso14892 3 жыл бұрын
You clearly have a different experience than me! A mate and I made it further with two bots than we did with two randoms on nightmare. Played through the entire thing a couple of times on vet just the two of us.
@travis-vesely
@travis-vesely 3 жыл бұрын
YES!!!! more b4b!!! PLEASE!!! PSA this game rewards progression and punishes jumping into the middle, its designed currently so that you start at the beginning of an act and take your time building up your guns and gear and buying team bonus' from the shop but once you get the game down there will be points where its just better to start mid way in when your more knowledgeable and your able to survive on minimum gear. teamwork is great and random players are cancer to any team, a bot will be more useful then a random player trust me, bots can be very useful tools once you figure out what they can do but i still dont see the point of quick games in anything but easy/recruit difficulty. custom decks do make a heck of a difference, the first card on the list is your free card every new run, so remember thats a guaranteed card and the order that you put the deck in will be the same order you draw cards in. items you pick up like boxes, gas cans, and propane tanks ect. can be dropped by pressing what ever key/button you use to switch guns. you can drop items from your inventory including coin but you must first find which button brings up the menu showing you your guns and gear. i think there is about on average 3 different versions of each special zombie/ridden, for example the big armed guys known as tallboys, crushers, and bruisers if i remember right, there is one that just bashes around and his weakpoint is on his shoulder(tallboy), then there is the one that grabs you and his weakpoint is on his face(crusher) and finally there is a more spiky deadly version of the 1st zombie with similar weakpoints(bruiser), each special has 2 to 3 versions and this is part of the challenge in the game, different sounds, different key physical features, different patterns and tactics. the snitch can normally be killed fast enough to avoid alerting a hoard BUT they were not lucky, in some situations snitches are mutated and will alert the hoard even if killed, if they are not mutated, a bot can kill a snitch without alerting the hoard, bots are useful if used right, but as you saw with the wrong snitched they are a hinderance and you have to stay away from the snitch cause the bot follows you and wont shoot it if they cant see it, not always possible i know but still better then a random guy who startles it, dies to hoard and rage quits and you get a bot anyway. ammo management is also part of the difficulty, its best to spread out your gun types among members, this way no 2 people are consuming the same ammo at high rates, bots will drop ammo for members who are low on ammo, other players can do this too but good luck trying to ask a random player to drop ammo they are not using. but hey your party members got your back right. the Boomer like zombie, there is a variant who does not have a weakpoint at all and this is the one you dont want to explode on you, if he does it calls a hoard so watch out. you can only go down so many times in a game, i think its 2 for easy but MOM will give you 1 more life, mom is best bot and Evangelo is worst bot... in my opinion anyway lol. Playing with bots and no random players: this can be accomplished by going to the menu to start a new game, scrolling down the list to preferences and turning on private lobby and then exiting out and in top right pressing what ever button brings up party setting it usually says OPEN and you wanna turn it to invite or close or friends BUT i think this only works if you at least have 2 players but not sure since they recently removed solo play as they are improving it, might work for one, but havent tried. HEADS UP these need to be changed every time you log in so dont forget. hope this helps anyone still learning the game, there is so much moe to this game yes it can be stressful but it can be a fun stress, the feeling of beating it can be sooo good, i realy hoep these guys give the game another shot cause they are fun and i think they could absolutely beat this game, they dont need a 4th and i would LOVE to watch them play more.
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