Over a Century of Hate: Millwall vs West Ham

[@culturefootball]

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[@TheWESTSIDE1967]

I'm WEST HAM & respect millwall for what they did for that poor little girl 👏👏👏 if i wasn't an hammer they would of been my club by choice because of the numerous similarities, both dockers & an East End club originally based in isle of Dogs,were proper working class fans, a bit rougher & tougher than your other London clubs, the fans are exactly the same, bit like 2 twin brothers that although respect eachother just don't get on & will always fight 🇬🇧⚒

[@rodlevicount9834]

Don't like the Bobby Moore songs though no need for that even just after he died ffs ⚒️

[@TheWESTSIDE1967]

@@rodlevicount9834 100% they crossed the line ⚒

[@Isleofskye]

Good Luck and if I had been born on the "wrong" side of The River and not The Elephant and Castle then I would have been a Hammer:)

[@Isleofskye]

@@rodlevicount9834 As a Millwall fan, you are 100% right though I have a story about Bobby in his Pub at Stratford(?). My mate went up to him while there and eulogized over his England Captaincy and winning THe World Cup and was full of praise for Mooro and once he finished his monologue,the great Bobby turned to him and said " xxxk Off, I'm with my mates!"....A Treasured memory of the great Man:)

[@rodlevicount9834]

@@Isleofskye well that aint good and a lot of players treat the fans with contempt specially these overpaid ones that we have nowadays. Bobby was before my time so Trevor Brooking is my all time hero and a gentleman with it. Just a shame he got too involved with the FA though.

[@CIMAmotor]

David Martin was always a West Ham fan, his father is Hammers' legend Alvin Martin.

[@glympse4513]

Funny how the Millwall podcast man only chose to highlight the bad west ham hooligan incidents as if Millwall isn't nationally regarded as some of dirtiest fans

[@spencergrout6320]

yeah literally hahahaha

[@culturefootball]

I decided what did and didn't feature. But next time I'll work on getting both sides on.

[@paulies5407]

@@culturefootball Yeah, why you only got a knuckle dragger from millwall on is beyond me. I'm surprise the guy even has the IQ to turn on a computer.

[@ThatMillwallPodcast]

@@paulies5407 haha so original fella and to think you said my IQ low😂😂😂

[@ThatMillwallPodcast]

Haha you’ve been reading the sun too much fella, best behaved fans in the world.

[@patrickturner3999]

I've been a Millwall fan for most of my life, I've never hated West Ham or any other club, it's just a game of football.

[@PublicVoodoo]

There is alot more to the rivalry than just football. Alot of Millwall and West Ham supporters worked in the docks and shipbuilding yards and them workers all went on general strike in 1926 against the government due to pay and working conditions. Millwall supporting workers refused to lend their support and returned to work rather than stick it out which provoked mass outrage and violence. So its also a rivalry based on the economic situation of the time and the impact it had on the workers back then to provide adequately for their families which was stopped by Millwall supporters.

[@essexanglosaxon3949]

I am west ham . But I think we are both very similar fans in culture. Maybe it's the docker connection. I respect millwall fans for thier loyalty . THATS IT COYI.

[@Isleofskye]

it was not emphasized that Millwall's 4th move was to leave East London altogether and move to SOUTH East London. It said "New Cross" but did not say where that was. Also, it was THe DOCKERS dispute early in the 20th Century that really caused the animosity as one set went on strike while the others continued to work. Good Luck and if I had been born on the "wrong" side of The River and not The Elephant and Castle then I would have been a Hammer:)

[@essexanglosaxon3949]

@@Isleofskye if I was born deep saff I would be millwall. We ain't that different..cheers mate.

[@Isleofskye]

@@essexanglosaxon3949 Good Luck,mate:)

[@mickrobinson6518]

I am Millwall through and through, 2 of my best mates are hammers..I hate Chelsea more than any other team.

[@essexanglosaxon3949]

@@mickrobinson6518 I've got a millwall mate and he's a top bloke. SPURS I can't stand SPURS.

[@Isleofskye]

Good Video though it was not emphasized that Millwall's 4th move was to leave East London altogether and move to SOUTH East London. It said "New Cross" but did not say where that was. Also, it was THe DOCKERS dispute early in the 20th Century that really caused the animosity as one set went on strike while the others continued to work.One last thing. That "AVRAM GRANT" banner was brilliant but it was not explained who he was. He was THe , existing,West Ham Manager who got them relegated:)

[@rustyrover8100]

Would’ve helped the narrative if you had a hammer supporter inform you too

[@chairmanalf7856]

A lifelong West Ham supporter here. The Wigan relegation match was the penultimate match of the season, which had effectively relegated us. The last match of the season was at home to Sunderland, which we went on to lose 3-0. Personally, I’m pretty ambivalent towards Millwall and have no animosity towards them. The team I dislike the most is definitely Tottenham and always have done. All the best and I hope you achieve promotion at the end of this season.

[@Isleofskye]

Thanks Alf and I like your Vlogs even if I oo banter with you at times ,mate.

[@chairmanalf7856]

@@Isleofskye 😂😉👍🏻

[@ThatMillwallPodcast]

that was a mistake but still the best bit of football banter ever though.

[@MapleLeafsarecanadasteam]

Best channel on KZbin for this content! Keep it up

[@paulc5935]

I’m a West Ham fan Respect for Isla My great great grandfather worked on Millwall docks in early 1900’s

[@bermondseyboycbl9261]

We got harry Cripps from westhamsters but we all loved harry

[@chairmanalf7856]

And Terry Hurlock. Billy Bonds also once managed you after leaving us.

[@SomeRandomPunk]

Great video man. Would love to see a video on the south coast derby. But every video so far has been very well made. Keep it up.

[@culturefootball]

Thanks for the suggestion!

[@PeeaaaK]

Amazing video man I thank you very much as I remember requesting this video from you! ♥

[@culturefootball]

Thanks for being so active.

[@manuelmesamusic]

Good video dude! Keep it going!

[@craigmccoy810]

I understand Millwall not favouring Teddy as much even though he was part of their greatest side but Teddy grew up following West Ham so I’m sure this was a big factor in him signing

[@iainrae6159]

As my granny said, ' you can't beat culture'. Lets hope Millwall get promoted to the Premier league and bring some extra happiness to our lives.

[@ijamesedit]

Not looking likely mate, anchored in 6th ain't gonna do it.

[@eddiegrimm9462]

next season maybe ?

[@shauncorless8965]

While there knocking the tar out of each other , we've been invaded 😮

[@SirNilooo]

I hope you do a special one on the Club America vs Chivas de Guadalajara rivalry 😉💯

[@prod.twnt2153]

great video mate

[@benkelly2968]

The rivalry really kicked off due to a dock strike

[@WYM22]

No it never

[@benkelly2968]

Yes it did

[@paulies5407]

Exactly, this millwall knuckle dragger hasn't got a clue

[@matthewcoombs3282]

That what I was told by a Millwall fan. The Dockers from The Surrey and West India Dock were Millwall (Rotherhide and Isle of Dogs) and Dockers from Royal Docks in Newham were West Ham. Not sure which is which, but one side supported the 1926 strike and another didnt and it caused some bad feeling between the two.

[@TheWESTSIDE1967]

@@matthewcoombs3282 we both striked but millwall went back to work WEST HAM never hence the reason we call them SCUM 🇬🇧⚒

[@WRBhammer]

Good vid but definitely could've done with a more balanced approach

[@hiitdon8630]

This is deep

[@HR-3]

Both East London clubs by Origin Newham and Tower Hamlets boroughs. Obviously Millwall then relocated South London ground wise.

[@arejaycee5704]

Read somewhere that there are 2 lion ramparts on the Millwall badge to emphasis there links to Scotland.

[@bubz3t136]

Millwall having only ever spent one season in the top flight is a crazy statistic.

[@MarkBishop-rt3zl]

Two seasons.First year finished 10th,second year got relegated.

[@monkeyharris2667]

Teddy sheringham was a West Ham United fan

[@chairmanalf7856]

Correct. There was a childhood photograph of him wearing a West Ham light blue away kit with claret hoops. I found it on the internet a few years ago but it now seems to have been taken down.

[@allerielinston8516]

Great vid mate, was wondering if you'd make rivalries from other leagues as well

[@culturefootball]

Absolutely. Next is Schalke vs. Dortmund. Turn on notifications!

[@allerielinston8516]

@@culturefootball Yes sir!

[@MarknoblesAcidhouseparty]

RIP Isla

[@Bermondseybites]

All things have their day & these days I would be happier simply saying God bless Isla Caton & her family. 🙏🏼 You find in life, eventually you have to let things go.

[@Loki1815]

Any chance you could turn the Bass right up and make it more boomy!

[@culturefootball]

Next time 😉

[@pink43560]

Maybe the teams should merge, create a Blue & Claret super team in the Eastend call them Millham.

[@lewisstubbs6569]

This video feels very much like why they hate eachother but only from a Millwall perspective. Needed a bit more of a fairer two sided argument here.

[@jamesianbarber]

West Ham was not from East London it was from Essex

[@niclin22]

Great vid, waiting for Schalke - BVB

[@culturefootball]

🔜

[@dnbdevastator5786]

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[@theeagle4118]

Funny when talking about the start of it all they don't mention that they were scabs

[@ijamesedit]

They wouldn't would they, I mean.... they're scabs after all. Also the bloke from Millwall killed in the 70's fell off a train platform. What one-sided tosh.

[@daniellastuart3145]

no I got told by a Millwall fan the hated started over a Dock strike were Millwall went on strike and Teams Iron works did not it got nothing to with football this game has always been bigger for Millwall fans

[@TheWESTSIDE1967]

Wrong both Thames ironworks & millwall went on strike ,but millwall returned to work while we still striked hence the reason we call them SCUM 🇬🇧⚒

[@summercoat]

Yes and no. Both docks were on strike, but it was the Millwall dockers who broke the strike.

[@benisbonus]

Your mate got it wrong, the dockers strike was mostly West Ham fans. The rumour says it was the Millwall fans that didn't strike alongside them

[@ChrisBrown_1959]

It was the Millwall dockers, mainly from Scotland that walked through the picket lines hence the hatred. There was hatred before that but the dockers strike made it a lot worse.

[@daniellastuart3145]

@@summercoat ok

[@jonathanlongworth4590]

West Ham started as an Essex team . The old boundary was the river Lee ( Canning Town flyover ) there side was Essex our side was East London. It wasn’t until 1965 when the GLC moved the boundary to Barking that’s when they became an East London team Just saying 😂😂 MILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLWALL

[@sepelinit1185]

lol

[@harryfoley2294]

And you lot haven’t played actually played in Millwall for over 100 years, go figure that

[@jonathanlongworth4590]

Your correct , however we still are the original East London team !!!

[@jlockers52]

Rate David Martin so highly 😂😂

[@justin2897]

I am Millwall & teddy is a legend fact

[@TheWESTSIDE1967]

& WEST HAM ⚒

[@ayatmomyhi3725]

Continue

[@HePlaysThePiano]

Several people die EVERY time Celtic and Ranges play in Glasgow .... i think the average figure is six people die due to football related violence according to the Scottish Gov figures. No messing about in Glasgow. Currently there are no away fans permitted in either ground atm. Mostly always noon kick off's to ensure people are still half asleep etc ...

[@Ledoux26]

Portsmouth and southampton next please

[@antonjames8589]

Millwall run from no one milllllll

[@dannybrown4699]

wrong

[@WA4AndyShaw]

Unbalanced and the narrator's voice is way too deeeeeeeep. Had to turn the bass down on my woofer 😂

[@eddiebirch2067]

Should of fought for their streets not the stupid football

[@sepelinit1185]

Both are a waste of time

[@joshuavernege5586]

Millwall forever in our shadow

[@michaelharrison3602]

Don't talk such bollocks dear

[@2k_marshyyy]

when is luton v watford

[@culturefootball]

We're moving away from England for now. Next is Schalke vs Dortmund.

[@DamnedDave]

COYL

[@davidc4849]

Millllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

[@robj8201]

There was a natural local rivalry but it became what it is because of a strike at the docks…⚒

[@Mute040404]

Local historians & the Museum of London Docklands say there's no evidence of this claim. The Dockers went wherever the work was, be it north or south of the pipe

[@ThatMillwallPodcast]

the strike being to blame is a myth

[@barrywright3895]

Load of bollocks

[@dev0nSA1nt]

I’m obsessed with this derby! It’s so interesting but not as violent as Saints vs Pompey (4-0❤️🤍❤️🤍)