The Deadly London Football Rivalry: West Ham vs Millwall

[@sagahammer]

Why couldn't they wait until the narrator was sober before recording this?

[@qtredhead]

Ha ha ha ha ⚒️

[@wardygrub]

Yeh. Not a great sussess!

[@anxiousbrusselsprout]

😂😂😂😂 quality

[@BruceLeroyUK]

😂😂😂😂

[@ssjr3604]

Haha u clearly not a regular on this chanel. Big up Kidnerd quality content as usual.

[@ewoodrailway]

His knowledge of this fixture is amazing, he can almost read it off a script.

[@davechard1143]

His narration was just mesmorising.

[@Trexalot9779]

A translator to English wouldn't hurt @@davechard1143

[@eddyvideostar]

Dear eWood, Huh, I smell something snarky. However, there's a lot of that going around -- even with the best YTers.

[@adamdymock6202]

RIP Isla, from Millwall💙💙💙

[@Leanbean4]

Respect brother

[@davecrispin2779]

Love that. I'm westham and you were the first team to recognise her. Much respect

[@matthewcoombs3282]

Good video. Major omission though is the General Strike of 1926. Surrey and India Docks mostly Millwall then Royal Docks mostly West Ham. One set of do kers supported the strike ans another didn't. Not sure which way around it was. Caused some tension at the time which played out in the derby matches.

[@englishtruthteller405]

Correct, I was just going to say this.... it was obviously millwall who crossed the picket lines ⚒️⚒️

[@willevans429]

goes back to 1906, when west ham got the hump about smashing the teacups

[@kenedwards9734]

Love this video. Even as a resident of Canning Town and a life long hammer, i learned a lot from this video. There's always going to be that rivalry but was good to see it putting aside for a more important common cause. Respect to the video creator 🙌

[@Lone-Wolf_Adventures69]

Bloke's narrating was doing my bleedin head in

[@grumpyoldben]

You’ve missed a very important episode that helped greatly in creating the rivalry … take a look at the dockers strikes of 1926 …

[@DannySouthendUnited]

As a southend fan i say sorry to simon dobbin and hes family. It should never go that far

[@Civilisation6History]

Up the shrimpers

[@la8433]

i watch your drill lore vids and was siked to see you posted this -- 10/10 great job ⚒

[@LukeeLDN]

Amazing video, top tier coverage

[@Leothegoat13]

I started rooting for West Ham this season since. This was a great and informative video which enlightened me on the lore between the rivalry. Thank you

[@PaquetasCar2147]

Everywhere we go, everywhere we go,... we snort some snow(allegedly!) then we turn up for the show.

[@robbinrobbin5582]

My step dad used to be really deeply entrenched in Millwall hooliganism, growing up in Nunhead near the stadium. Told me all kinds of stories from smacking up the NF trying to sell news papers in their pubs, to massive riots and facing off horse charges, cops taking off badges to get away with brutality. Working Class have a strong sense of unity, football teams create sense of collective identity, not surprising during economic hardships football firms would boom when young men want a cause or outlet. Also isn't surprising far-right thugs targeted football hooligans to join their movements. If only these lot could come out for real political change the same way they come out to fight eachother.

[@TheFamousMileEnd]

I don’t think you’d like the political change either West Ham or Millwall would bring in. Both us and Millwall are two sides of the same coin, and politically speaking both fanbases lean right. The proof is the voting patters of where most West Ham and Millwall live nowadays in the Essex and Kent. A lot of people associate working-class and progressive politics, and it just doesn’t match. Not in England at least.

[@grimjim1599]

Your dad should be ashamed of himself for hitting NF activitists , especially seeing the state of London years on . They were just warning the fans of the impending destruction of our culture/identity

[@TheSanctioningBoxer]

Your dad should be ashamed, waking up on a Saturday to go cause bother and have a fight. Embarrassing

[@jamesjones3371]

Far right more like correct

[@TheFamousMileEnd]

@@jamesjones3371 On the basis of what?

[@The160879]

Big respect to both of these clubs real Football Clubs real history and real supporters. It’s a huge rivalry with all the good and bad.

[@bubbles190]

Grown men fighting over football is gross

[@bubbles190]

@No Chance 2 wrongs don't make a right

[@bubbles190]

@No Chance Would maybe be okay if my tax wasn't wasted on fixing these twats. Start a fight club if you want a fight, these guys are just men who never got past age 13 in most aspects of whatever fucking dead ass brain inhabits their empty bodies. How many fight this hard for their families?

[@drebellot5237]

Bang on mate you did your homework good stuff .

[@orourkedafootball]

I thought going to football to enjoy the game and then go home was the way to go but thats me told.

[@JasonQuail-d3t]

Love the VID and everything you've said about these two clubs is spot on.

[@Red5_]

Not going to lie I hate Millwall with a passion but the respect for Isla was pure class. That’s the best you’re going to get out of me.

[@pcarts232]

No one cares tbh that’s your issue not ours 😂

[@pcarts232]

Didn’t understand a word of that tbh , sounds like a retard ! 😂

[@cathal3020]

We don't care

[@dhall5785]

​@@pcarts232yeah I ain't gonna lie either, he's a fkn prick

[@mrian87]

To be fair though, literally everyone in London hates the council tenants more than Millwall 😂

[@nottyrese]

Everything is cyclical. Just like how drill artists be making tunes dissing the dead, hooligans used to do that shit back in day. It's crazy fr

[@whufc-essex]

And before the hooligans was mods vs rockers

[@RaggedDan]

Weird everybody’s making videos on this all of a sudden, loving a bit of coverage on it 😊

[@RaggedDan]

@@243Chris__ I'd love to have them up. So many great London Derbies to be played. The support and the owners may well be enough of a cocktail to keep them up as well.

[@bikergamecat]

Millwall could be in prem next season or west ham could be in championship next season so

[@RaggedDan]

@@bikergamecat just imagining the London Stadium as a venue on the same level as most of the others 😅

[@Lewisham_bus_spotter]

@@bikergamecat Lol

[@WalshyFire]

The jokes on the drunk narrator are the best part of this video

[@historyoffootball87]

It is one of the most fierce rivals in English football but in terms of how the clubs have been historically, West Ham are the superior club.

[@fourcandles9413]

They got more titles than west ham

[@ronaldothegoat459]

@@fourcandles9413 millwall havent won a major trophy

[@TazedPickle]

IRONS ⚒️⚒️

[@Beaufootball]

The rivalry between Millwall and West Ham United is one of the longest-standing and most bitter in English football. The two teams, then known as Millwall Athletic and Thames Ironworks, both originated in the East End of London, and were located less than three miles apart. They first played each other in the 1899-1900 FA Cup. The match was historically known as the Dockers derby, as both sets of supporters were predominantly dockers at shipyards on the River Thames. Consequently, each set of fans worked for rival firms who were competing for the same business; this intensified the tension between the teams. In 1904, West Ham moved to the Boleyn Ground which was then part of Essex until a London boundary change in 1965. In 1910, Millwall moved across the River Thames to New Cross in South East London and the teams were no longer East London neighbours. Both sides have relocated since, but remain just under four miles apart. Millwall moved to The Den in Bermondsey in 1993 and West Ham to the London Stadium in Stratford in 2016.

[@Joeavfc1]

Can you do one for Aston Villa vs Birmingham city (second city derby) please

[@nubianmccarthy1]

You should do more videos on football rivalries and their fans.

[@razhok9725]

Behzinga vs Zerkaa

[@Andrew-rq4rr]

lol

[@westy8065]

Who??

[@Parkerlee1000]

Lame ass bruddas

[@debottomroy3334]

​@@westy8065 sidemen

[@DMWBN3]

Stick to tick stock or wherever these plums are from.

[@TheRealfortune143]

Well researched and well presented video. Well done Kid Nerd keep going!👏🏾👏🏾

[@Malegys]

I'm sorry you had a stroke just before recording the audio for this video. Get well soon !

[@jamesdelacy4467]

Interesting history lesson well presented

[@Freddies20126]

Sick watch as always. The level of research this lad puts in is unreal 👏

[@Chris-qw3zt]

They might be in the same league next season👀

[@TazedPickle]

No chance ever

[@mazzoanV2]

Thank you so much for this wonderful video

[@AbitLippy]

The country might need people like hammers and lions supporters to come together to fight for this country soon.

[@reidswrlxd1794]

Very good and interesting video bro, well done 👏

[@gardencitygrowers9313]

A very good production on a sticky subject 👏🏾👏🏾

[@damiworld]

Really hoping Millwall go up this season. Will be very entertaining to watch them go straight back down. The shithousery will be top tier.

[@kidnerd]

Or West Ham go down

[@robertingram2590]

Hoping West Ham can stay up.

[@tobylots]

@@kidnerd Dream on sunbeam

[@michaelfarrow5817]

I get rising anxiety when Millwall are in the promotion race which only subsides when they inevitably fall away.

[@TazedPickle]

@@kidnerdnever say that again.

[@JakTheLad]

as a millwall fan, i love ur videos mate, thanks for making a video about my club

[@morrisoniamdoneasda4432]

😂millwalls shit

[@M1ghtylion]

@@morrisoniamdoneasda4432 You're shit

[@hotepsalam]

As as West Ham fan I’d love for them to get promoted and embarrassed every week

[@JakTheLad]

@@hotepsalam u barely escaped relegation this season

[@Oddly1970]

@@hotepsalam That’s rich coming from a West Spam mug fingers crossed you lot go down .

[@nandinhocunha440]

I'm forever blowing bubbles

[@michaelfarrow5817]

There have been just 27 fixtures between the clubs in the last 105 years. What I can't work out is this: is the rivalry so fierce because the game is so rarely played or despite it being so rarely played? I grew up further out into South East London in an West Ham-supporting family. When I see what Lewisham Council was doing to Millwall a few years ago, the logical side of my brain recognises that a couple of seasons in the Premier League would allow Millwall to secure their future and the legacy of football in that area. However, the West Ham fan in me cannot stomach Millwall in the Premier League.

[@Icecubegv]

Are u confuced? U said ur west ham fan bruh

[@iank-dz6gg]

@@Icecubegv COYI

[@rumbled5461]

goes back to dockers strikes

[@50pence59]

There are a lot of non-football reasons going back 100 years. It’s all a bit pathetic now.

[@fourcandles9413]

Milwall..Fulham is a bigger grudge match than this.

[@nevaehsimon2497]

Great content…well put together…makes sense now!!

[@olajidewashere]

Kid Nerd, please keep uploading. Always re watch your old videos because of how good they are

[@kidnerd]

Always bro ❤️

[@ElzevereBlock]

You must be deaf if you appreciated this narration.

[@dangosbee]

Millwall? Never heard of her ⚒️

[@coops1964]

01:48 Millwall Rovers eh? I wonder who they were named after? Tottenham Hotspur also copied our famous blue and white halved shirt. We were some ground breakers in our day.

[@sit-insforsithis1568]

Yeah but irrelevant now sadly

[@simonzonenblick395]

I wonder if anyone can explain something that has always seemed an anomaly to me - how or why a club representing an area north of the river ended up playing south of the river? I know a bit about the history from Wikipedia etc, but it just seems incongruous to me. I understand the original players and supporters lived on the Isle of Dogs, but nowadays most fans live in Bermondsey. Is it really accurate to call the club by the name of a different place?

[@4exgold]

Arsenal the same. originally from Woolwich and relocated to Islington, yet still call themselves Arsenal despite being a lot further away from their original home than Millwall.

[@simonzonenblick395]

@@4exgold Interesting, I'd forgotten about Arsenal (as I'm a Spurs fan you can understand that I hope!). It fascinates me as to where exactly the clubs are supposed to "represent". I imagine Arsenal fans mostly come from or live in North London, but Millwall ... makes me wonder why the name isn't "Deptford" instead.

[@iank-dz6gg]

@@simonzonenblick395 They are called Woolwich wanderers & Surrey scabs

[@Hellooooo-kq1hb]

@@simonzonenblick395 Arsenal 100% represents North London more than Woolwich. We only spent 20 years there whereas we've been up north for over 100

[@michaelharrison3602]

Arsenal are the same they were originally "the Woolwich Arsenal situated in Woolwich South London now one of .North London's biggest teams n

[@killiemucken]

The green brigade look crazy but there actually a calm group that just march to the ground with flares. Even playing rangers there isn’t really fights anymore

[@folu12]

I'm 33. Born in Newham General hospital. Life long West-Ham fan. I knew the history was deep but not this deep. Thank you for the education

[@samuelgarrod8327]

The commentary is good for someone who has English as a second language.

[@50pence59]

I grew up during this era. Crazy, crazy. Worse than he is saying here. I couldn’t believe they let the teams meet in the FA cup and always said they should throw the numbers back if it ever occurs. I was happy when Millwall messed up getting to the play offs this year. Can’t have them in the same division us, as it’d still be mayhem, today.

[@Overkill2008]

You’re scared that’s why

[@michaelharrison3602]

It would liven things up though

[@Pikmoogle]

@@Overkill2008scared to make you realise how battered you would get

[@Overkill2008]

@@Pikmoogle lol you think we care. Also we have more wins than you in these games.

[@Pikmoogle]

@@Overkill2008 when ur in the prem you can talk

[@davidlee-zw8rf]

Lived in east London most of my life and I am a west ham fan so I am not a stranger to the east London accent but that said I have to say your accent is making my ears bleed. "firty free times they played eechuva" LOL

[@TheFlathead45]

Its jalfrasian nowadays, not cockney!

[@wardygrub]

Not very sussessfawl an va dete was va 21th! ……. BUT, apart from the sloppy accent, it was pretty interesting imo. 😊

[@MKMC_]

I grew up around millwall and I supported them and West Ham but once I was wearing my West Ham kit around Bermondsey and my neighbour scared the shit out of me because he told me I could get hurt as well as that I also ran into a group of teenagers who started to mock the 5 year old me I didn’t really care though and continued to support both teams

[@ibz23_]

You’re brave for doing that but also stupid supporting West Ham & Millwall is like supporting arsenal & spurs 😂

[@no1_tom867]

Do a vid on 09 Upton Park riots

[@craiglatham]

Hope you get over the stroke soon mate.

[@barsbeatlife]

If only these football firms had some class consciousness and rised up against the true enemies: the government, the authorities, the monarchy and billionaires. Definitely noticed more fights since lockdown at the football.

[@wardygrub]

Government, monarchy, billionaires AND Spurs! Haha!😊

[@daviduns2196]

Take responsibility for yourself, don’t blame the government etc for your own shortcomings in life.

[@wardygrub]

@@daviduns2196 Didn’t think that person’s response was shirking any responsibility. In fact, it seemed like someone was being thought-provoking. It’s easy to take out our anger and frustration on an opposing sport team and the media LOVE to stir and sensationalise such clear divisions. Perhaps it IS taking responsibility, to share this point with ‘social media’ ? P. S. I like your profile pic of a lion in a top hat! Doesn’t get much cooler than that!!!

[@terryjenkins9955]

F-Troop and The Treatment were before Bushwhackers

[@ridealongwithnicolle1581]

This sounds familiar 🤔 seems like the post code gang wars all started from football. Even the fact that at 7:54 West ham fans were going to opp block to slide in on their opps and then at 8:34 is that not the same as "drill music" seems to me like postcode wars all started with 🖐🏻 people

[@martinofleeds]

Which one of these two clubs Were the SCABS and Broke the un-writfen law and ignore the the Strike & went back to Work????

[@AbrahamLik-mk2th]

I’m not English and I don’t want to sound like a copper but are firms still active ?

[@frazetee4003]

Rip isla Catton poor little lady gone to sleep too soon x

[@dwcoolit]

Great vid..Well Played... Thanks

[@_theporkchopexpress]

Guessing the sun was past the yard arm before narrating.

[@michaelgreen372]

Good blog but you forgot to mention the picket lines that caused more conflict. West Ham & Millwall same DNA 👊

[@WYM22]

He didn't mention it cause it's a myth and isn't true

[@michaelgreen372]

@@WYM22 I disagree a few old boys just told me the story

[@TheWESTSIDE1967]

Exactly mate, bit tougher & nastier for sure ⚒

[@KenUbeleveit1]

Can you do boxing rivalries?? Big example, Eubank & Benn

[@FUNT.D]

You should do a 'drillers left paralysed by the lifestyle' that would be great 🎉

[@Just_jx]

R.i.p all those who died

[@ss23x]

class video like always

[@SlimJim0121]

Man sounds like he took 17 sleepers before recording his voice over

[@dongardner9189]

originally the "bushwackers" were called "F Troop" in the early 70's

[@letstalkwall3374]

Class video 👏🏻👏🏻

[@martinhardcastle9970]

Mate Millwalls 1st firm was F Troop we became Bushwackers in 1982.

[@mrkipling2201]

Treatment and the Halfway Line were also Millwall firms weren’t they??

[@-xirx-]

8:45 A young Ray Winstone!

[@rick1164]

Witch docmentry are there of english football

[@wvttz13]

Yesss another video😍🔥

[@johnjacks4937]

Mileend mob, cripps testimonial, needs a video on its own. ⚒️

[@TheFlathead45]

I was there. It was like the charge of the Light Brigade, backwards and forwards.

[@brodieadu-yeboah4811]

Please more of these videos there really good

[@johnmoore4037]

Has Benny Hill got production credits on this comedy

[@georgelloyd5917]

just subscribed.great video lad

[@sjrlithics7524]

that was really enjoyable , a well comprised watch :)

[@stevancollins8267]

Police allowed pubs to open early am. Kicks off evening. Stopping tubes miles from ground. Police are so thick.

[@Oddly1970]

Who’s the narrator sounds like a right dinlo

[@wardygrub]

Dunno what a dinlo is but he definitely needs some heliquooshun lessins to be sussessfawl!!!😅

[@Lespommesdeclifford]

What’s this guy mumbling about…

[@johnmoore4037]

Skip the 80’s and the Irrational hatred of Luton Town

[@eymerichinquisitore9022]

They never win and even fight among themselves?

[@michaeljohnson5365]

Imagine if these people acted like this is normal life they would all be locked up

[@andreasjacovides4800]

Big up Kid nerd for the video

[@simonreavey5246]

Narration sounds more like a wannabe gangster outside McDonald’s rather than a fan on the terraces

[@whufc-essex]

Thanks for this video brother

[@Oodjamiflops]

Every team feared Don Revies team lmfao

[@andyjackson8027]

Shame West Ham aren't a working class club anymore.Weve gone soft .

[@stevenwhite9408]

The English FA controls English football, not Scotland, Wales and N.Ireland football

[@NastyFilthy1]

top content as always

[@Mel_Gerrard]

Amazing to think that most of those fans and hooligans are now grandpas or dead.

[@RP-zm9kh]

Where does this nug narrator get his accent from.

[@kyletoledo2584]

Warriors. Come out and play

[@torpedodropkick59]

What did the narrator say? Subtitles helped!

[@JonHaitch]

Tottenham smashing Chelsea on the pitch 5min 50

[@evolution.revolution101]

The feud has only died out because millwall Cnt get into the prem.

[@mickharrison9004]

Sadly the first lad to die at a match in the country was Kevin Olson ,I was there as a 8 year old on the kop Bloomfield road , obviously I wasn't involved but back then in a kop that held 16,000 standing ,and only a few police between us and Bolton bstds a big fight ensued ,all over our kop at blackpool fc ,it's aledged that Kevin lad that died in the fighting was stabbed in the back ,by a Bolton bstd anyone ever comes to Bloomfield road maybe like to see Kevin's plack ,it's on the north of ground near the corner nearest the sea ,since this in the early years there have been many serious riots in 80 s us raiding there end at old burnden park ,and many big fights between us on Manny road which there old ground was on ,and they got it big-time on a couple of night matches they came over , obviously everyone turned out for them and kicked em up and down blackpool ,many ran into to hotels and bnbs to escape the violence ,then there was many years in 90 s early 2,000 s we didn't play them then all of a sudden we had them again around 2010 ,by then police had forgotten the rivalry normally our matches kicked off ,back in the day boxing day 11 am kick off most of us who went over to Bolton had been up all night ,but we still took it to em parking a few of our vans and cars on an estate ,were we had it before and after the match nowadays it was a 3 pm kick off ,but blackpool fans had done some crazy stuff smashing pubs Bolton centre ,and them bstds in them that's the story with Kevin much missed .

[@shaunangell2265]

The Bolton lad that did it had a girls name mate so I'm told by some geezers from my era (The 70s) that were there pulled a blade when he got cornered and lashed out, he'll be 62/63 now.

[@mickharrison9004]

@@shaunangell2265 yeah now that you say that with his name I don't know it ,but thinking about it your bang on and thanks for your input mate ,like I said I was there but very young I saw all the fighting ,and then with being a blackpool fan I believed the people that said he stabbed Kevin in the back , obviously like people say if you carry a knife especially back then we're big fights were ,every week nearly your going to use it but how he got outnumbered ,when there were thousands of his own fans on the kop is a bit strange ,though with so many fighting spose anything could of happened and Kevin Olson sadly missed ,I wonder if you know we lost another fan a few weeks ago ,in a big fight blackpool fans had with Burnley outside a pub after the match ,also there was a Burnley fan stabbed but survived ,our lad tony Johnson sadly didn't someone or maybe a few caved his head in ,whilst on the floor the doctor at the hospital said it looked like he d been in a high speed car crash ,it's still the case and probably always will be if your in the wrong place at the wrong time ,with being a football supporter you still can't be sure youl get home safe and sound ,that day there had been a couple of other battles at pubs before the match ,it was a Lancashire derby though so we've always had history with them .

[@shaunangell2265]

@@mickharrison9004 iknow his name mate but obviously can't say on here the lads I know said he somehow got cornered cos there were fights breaking out all over the place. Yeah I heard about the Burnley bother not good eh bud

[@mickharrison9004]

@@shaunangell2265 yeah very grim with tony a very popular lad and only 50 the only mistake ,it was our lads including tony who went looking for Burnley fans after the match ,and with the Kevin Olson thing fair enough with is name i wouldn't want to know it personally,and with him aledgedly being cornered like you said and I saw there was 100 s maybe a 1,000 fighting that day so anything was possible ,very sad obviously when people die supporting there club .

[@shaunangell2265]

@@mickharrison9004 I'm only in Sheffield mate so keep in touch Mick I'll come over for a game as not been to the ground since it was redeveloped. WhatsApp me bud 👍

[@mazzoanV2]

I so wanna steal the narrator's accent.

[@Notpoop906]

ease off the glue next time you record ay? nitty

[@sideb7178]

make more videos on different rivalries in the uk.

[@CIMAmotor]

One man went to war, WAR, went to war with Millwall, one man and his baseball bat, went to war with Millwall. Two men went to war...

[@JL-nk1pc]

Ok Essex mug

[@CIMAmotor]

@@JL-nk1pc I'm OK JL, how are you?

[@michaelmorgan8539]

And two westham went two hospital

[@whufc6764]

millwank...forever in our shadow⚒️⚒️

[@kanereid4977]

I know the lad in the shorts going onto the pitch from the boozer on. Your video picture