Overclocking The New Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W

[@m1n1siow]

@1.4 with a small heatsink arm_freq=1400 core_freq=525 over_voltage=6 gpu_freq=700 need 2.5A power supply

[@tboatrig]

What temps?

[@m1n1siow]

@@tboatrig 62c whilst mining

[@tboatrig]

Wow... That's amazing! I wonder then if it may go higher even?

[@kuchengireng]

@@m1n1siowdid you mean mining bitcoin with this pi zero 2? waw

[@m1n1siow]

@@kuchengireng nope

[@keithmiller9665]

I like the look and price of this but having upgraded several RPI 3Bs to 4Bs I should utilise the spare 3Bs first.

[@computingwithcoffee3907]

Can't wait for it to be available in South Africa . As soon as I see it in the verified stores I'm going to buy one . Always wanted a pi but just to tinker so this super cheap one is just right for me

[@crystalchaos462]

Love that you dont have to monitor the CPU from terminal anymore. Those applets are great features to the GUI of Raspberry Pi OS.

[@scottwilliams895]

Great video reminder about how to overclock a RPi. Results from the new Zero2W look promising, can't wait to get mine.

[@uncaringbear]

It might be useful to show people how to increase the swap space on the Pi Zero 2 W. It could be helpful for running more demanding apps.

[@MarioPL989]

Would be horrible with slow sd card

[@quarteratom]

@@MarioPL989 Would be better than running out of memory with a slow sd card. It'd kill the sd card much faster though.

[@boeingpete]

Excellent tutorial. Clear, concise and cut straight to the chase.

[@lrc3847]

Useful for arcades that wants to do multiple emulations

[@totophi]

Maybe, but which arcade fans will prefer to run cabs based on Pi 4 versus Pi Zero? I can understand Pi Zero on a handheld, although Pi CM4 makes more sense.

[@rolyantrauts2304]

@ETA PRIME I put some heat sinks on the base also and with a very crude setup got arm_freq=1350 over_voltage=4 I think we might see some novel cooling for the zero2 as the base pcb is a huge flat cooling area beneficial to the stacked SoC So just a 2x covering all of the rear pcb and a small one on the top

[@bcrispchannel]

Ordered mine yesterday. Already sold out today!

[@xBruceLee88x]

These little guys look tempting, if only it had a little more ram

[@nikobellic570]

Novaspirit tech - a youtuber - has an easy install script that adds more zram, improving usability a little.

[@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart]

Then just get a CM4/Raspberry Pi 4. It won't get better than 512MB due to manufacturing limitations, and it's application is high-power IoT, not desktop.

[@xBruceLee88x]

@@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart I understand all that and have no issues with it as is really, just that it would be neat. Im sure as it is it would still be a neat little emulation system

[@tonysheerness2427]

It costs $15 what do you want for that price?

[@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart]

@@tonysheerness2427 A house, a car and an RTX 3090. Is it realistic? No, but I want it :P

[@TrondRune]

I have missed watching ETA talking about Raspberry Pi, this is why i fell in love with the channel 😁🔧 (and chinese handhelds)

[@ryuho55]

Tbh i agree, that and when he says gb lol so satisfying

[@trbdann2]

Bought a zero2 today after yesterday's video!! and a bunch of fun stuff from Adafruit! tinkering project time

[@ArFoul]

I would love a video for pi hole DNS if possible. Thanks

[@GaryParks]

Flirc Case, Stock Pi3+ power supply. Tried compiling Vaulkin on it for 10min and got up to 72C with 100% load. # Over Clock arm_freq=1400 core_freq=525 over_voltage=6 gpu_freq=700

[@varenneriocha8712]

When you say 'Pi3' at 8:56, which Pi 3 was that, 3 A, 3 A+, 3 B or 3 B+?

[@LelandHasGames]

Will you please just get this thing in the GPi Case already?!

[@demonhighwayman9403]

100% agreed !

[@protaginets]

I have both on order..

[@zacmitchell_1984]

Don't think that will work... I believe gpi case uses the composite video out header.. the pi zero 2 doesn't have it on headers ,but on solder pads. I'm sure someone will design a new cart if this is the case though

[@protaginets]

@@zacmitchell_1984 Doesn't look like it according to all the videos I've seen.. It's only the 40 pins and the mUSB.

[@zacmitchell_1984]

Idk, it's what I saw on the explaining computers channel.

[@thejackofclubs]

you could have just opened the raspberry pi configuration panel and selected and overclock from the dropdown menu. its a lot easier.

[@RedMageGaming]

Just got one ordered, should arrive in a couple days! Don't plan on overclocking it, but it's going to live in my GPI Case, giving it just a little more oomph so It can better play the tougher SNES/GBA and play some PSX games that don't need l2/r2 input or joysticks. Super excited, not sure what I'll repurpose the old Zero W that's in it now to do yet~

[@dishcleaner2]

I’m at 1.2 ghz with no cooling in a plastic enclosure. Max temp so far is 73 C. No issues while browsing internet or watching KZbin.

[@specideal]

The video uploaded on ETA prime is very helpful for studying. thank you~! Thank you for watching this Raspberry Pi Zero 2 overclock experiment! It's amazing that it performs better than the Raspberry Pi 3. Could the battery life be longer than zero 1 by lowering the voltage and downclocking?

i think the first zero W haw 1W of consumption, while this has 2.5W, so there would need to be huge downclocking. But try putting arm_freq_min=XXX in config file, that will clock CPU down when its not used. Works for my Pi 0 2W and Pi4

[@tylerwright497]

Matej Rajčan what do you have your config file settings set at? Can you list all of them please

[@IRWPD]

It's cool that this can be done.

[@chronixchaos7081]

That’s a supper accurate room temperature in Centigrade. Well done.

[@Buzzygirl63]

Cool, I hope to nab one of these new Pi Zeros at MicroCenter next week + a case. I'm going to see if the new Pi Zero version works better in a Retropie set up.

[@Butrdtostngravy]

Hey ETA have you tried this in the old GPi Case to see if it works? Being the same form factor I'd be interested if/how well it works!

[@coler154]

Yes please test the GPi case

[@MrCumstein]

Why wouldn’t it work?

[@coler154]

@@MrCumstein new hardware = new bugs

[@dirediredude]

@@coler154 But the mounts are identical. Should work but with a bit better emulation.

[@petergamma741]

Great review and a great device. We had big problems to install LibreOffice on the new Linux PinePhone. Then, we found, that LibreOffice can be installed easily on a Raspberry PI zero W2. A great coder recommendet to use Abiword and Gnumerics for the PinePhone. Abiword was hardly updated since the last 10 years. Abiword and Gnumerics run also on Raspberry PI zero W2. Why to buy a Linux PinePhone then? We can buy a Raspberry PI zero W2 and have the same Office suite on it. And we will also test a Fairphone 2 with PostmarkedOS which can be bought on ebay for 100 USD. In Switzerland, the PinePhone is 300 USD shipping included.

[@davetherave4328]

Top work Mr ETA , I just installed the debian 64bit shell to my raspberry pi os and installed Xmrig miner to crypto mine "Turtlecoin" the pi 4 does about 150 hash a second about 60 coins a day or $0.01 so I see how the Pi Zero2 does with this overclock. Just a hobby for me , got another pi zero 2 coming monday so i can learn a bit about cluster computing and make a render farm for Blender adding my 2 pi 4's on top.

[@kirkd1502]

Only problem with the Flirc zero case is you have to take it apart to change the microSD card.

[@henrydevereux9701]

Not the only problem. Both my mini HDMI cable and a mini HDMI adapter I tried won't work with the Flirc case without some sort of modification. The case material is just thick enough to prevent both my mini HDMI cable and mini HDMI adapter from plugging in completely and making a solid connection, thus preventing the display from working.

[@ianhill20101]

I need to get this in my gameboy micro then upgrade the board as they release new zeros, tonight the micro comes apart.

[@martindejong3974]

Note the zero does NOT have a composite video pinheader (hole), instead it has a composite video solderpad marked TV on the bottom. solder a wire to it to connect the composite video signal to your gameboy micro board.

[@Sphinxssx]

For what i want the pi zero works perfectly

[@xMoobyx]

ETA does it fit in the retroflag GPi case!?!?

[@512mb4]

Those stacked CPU and ram will heat at the same time. Should overclock ram also then. 450-500mhz

[@FuZZbaLLbee]

I am wondering if these extra CPU cycles would be enough to counter Zram (memory compression) CPU requirements

I tried this too, did many stress tests, but did not get so lucky, only could obtain 1.2GHz with no overvoltage. However, i noticed my PI always crashes when cpu is more than 45C, even though there is forced cooling with heatsink on it.

[@thomasperri3294]

Needs more voltsge

@@thomasperri3294 overvoltage did not made any difference, it froze anyways after a while or 4 days... it was unstable.

[@mohitkhajuria3008]

Thanks for the video. 1. Can we connect a USB Lan adapter to Rasp Pi zero 2 w? 2. Is Rasp Pi zero 2 w enough for running pi-hole and a webserver? Kindly reply

[@skideric]

Got one on the way !

[@tannermurray2071]

Would I be able to overclock within raspberry OS and then install Lakka at a later date- keeping the overclock?

[@ETAPRIME]

If you install Lakka in Raspberry Pi OS yes, if you reflash a new SD you will need to do the overclock again

[@Choralone422]

I'm sure they didn't include more RAM in the Zero 2 in order to not cannibalize sales of the Pi 3 or 4 models or in order to hit their super low price point. Still a neat device for certain applications!

[@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart]

They didn't include more RAM because there's no 1GB SDRAM package that would fit above the CPU. They literally say that on their site.

[@rolyantrauts2304]

@ETA PRIME Did you try the memory as some of the benches indicate it seems slow. The Pi 3 was 1GB LPDDR2 (900 MHz) but don't even have a spec for the Zero2

[@rolyantrauts2304]

@ETA PRIME just been overclocking mine and @ 1.2Ghz no overclock needed but my tiny passive heatsink soon gets to 70'C. I have been wondering though as we have a clean rear pcb that silicon adhesive isn't conductive that a large rear heatsink can be applied. I think its heat more than voltage that your not getting past 1.3 as finding mine pops with anything when temps start get 70+

[@IAmZen_007]

Well explained! Thx.

[@JLaurel]

I'm wondering if the aluminum case would affect the Wi-Fi signal.

[@farsidesc4044]

I fast forwarded a bit between steps. I completely thought your Win11 environment was Raspbian for a minute. “Sick UI, nice! … Oh…”

[@Lavitz2011]

How does an overclocked (to 1.3 GHZ) Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W compare to a stock Raspberry Pi 3 and 3B+ ?

[@ruhailali7317]

From the benchmarks I've seen, it's a little faster then a stock 3 B+

[@cjlowe1650]

Great video and thanks for testing so we don't have too. LOL.. Question: Can you use CommanderPi to do over clocking? Or is that just for a Pi4?

[@mrstevil3000]

With a 2.5 or 3 amp power supply would this pi be able to drive the official RPi 4 case fan? Maybe sitting on top of that heat sink? Without a case, of course. A little GPIO pin soldering never hurt anyone, right? 😅

[@dariuscurry7396]

Does this Fit in the RetroFlag GPI Case?

[@ETAPRIME]

It does but I personally can’t get RetropIe working yet, raspberry pi OS will work on the Gpi case right now, we just need to wait for an update

[@lordofudead]

Jeff Geerling seemed to be successful in getting Retropie working on it, I think he mentioned he will be releasing a video in the next week on how he did it.

[@harleyn3089]

@@lordofudead Jeff had to recompile the Linux kernel. Retropie should release a build for this board soon.

[@dynamight1124]

@@ETAPRIME The most recent RetroPie weekly build works fine, wifi/BT works. You do lose sound on the GPi case tho but I doubt it'll take people long to sort that out.

[@AlistairBrugsch]

@@lordofudead he's just released the blog post for it

[@KaraokeDuov2]

I think "over clocked" should be a new slang. "Bro I think my girls mad at me." I don't know man, she does seem a bit over clocked. LOL.

[@isaac_da_pirate7890]

So I’m having a different problem of the Zero W 2 overheating in the small build I have, how exactly would I throttle it or deactivate cores? Something to slow it down to prevent it heating up? All mine does is play videos

[@jensschroder8214]

Now you just have to tell us what goes into the config.txt in order to have more RAM. With 1 GB the RP 1 W2 would be a PR 3 B replacement.

[@feriante777]

Zram and zswap can help a bit

[@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart]

If you need a desktop Pi just... get one. Virtual "RAM" absolutely sucks, you'd literally be running programs out of storage

[@solanumtuberosa]

download ram

[@512mb4]

Use powerful sdcard or ssd if possible, terminal - sudo dphys-swapfile swapoff sudo nano /etc/dphys-swapfile CONF_SWAPSIZE=100 > change to 2048 , this use 2gb swap(virtual ram) sudo dphys-swapfile setup sudo dphys-swapfile swapon Easier method, more performance, insert USB drive. Fast one. Ssd. sudo swapon /dev/sda1 * * example sda1 is my thumbdrive swap partition. Conclusion - still not good as real ram.

[@512mb4]

Forgot to tell this will kill microSD faster.

[@GooseDaPlaymaker]

Surface Pro 8/GPD Win MAX + eGPU testing, please!

[@superangrybrit]

I love these things. 😍

[@Rafy_24]

Great content... Just a little question.. Will the Pi Zero2 fit on the Pi Zero cases/heat sink? the chip seems bigger and w/ a different layout... Im asking because I never owned a Pi before and just ordered on of these :) thanks!

[@TheZax85]

I was able to push mine to 1300 as well. 1400 would not hold - it crashed the browser constantly.

[@Noliver038]

I am now running 1.6ghz, but it was very hard to get it running

[@MarioPL989]

settings?

[@istvanracz1622]

Thank you!👍

[@martyngasson7003]

Have you tried it in the retro flag gpi case yet 👍

[@startopolis9280]

How does this compare to the radxa zero? Because the pi zero 2 sounds a lot worse

[@djordje1999]

Is "no case" temps with some cooler or without any cooler?

[@3Jmc94]

Hi ETA or any clever viewer who can help, looking to fit one of these into a GPi case and run and emulator. If I overclock, will this seriously affect the battery life? Also does anyone know if there is space for a heatsink in the GPi cartridge?

[@waterheart95]

If it has the same power usage probably not. Most likely won't due to the Cortex-A53 is usually vastly more power efficient than the old ARM 11 core.

[@3Jmc94]

@@waterheart95 Thanks for the response! Is there a simple way to check the power usage? I seen that Mr ETA was increasing his voltage to the 4th level (apologies I'm a noob 😂) so that made me think power usage was increased?

[@3Jmc94]

@@jeremy__hopkins Response is massively appreciated! I'll hold off until Mr ETA brings out his (inevitable) GPi vids. Thanks again, you've saved me a tonne of time 😂

[@lonster3000]

Any recommendations on a usb hub for the pi zero/zero 2?

[@AlteredCarbons]

hey @ETA , i got my system up and running so thanks for that. i see people over clocking the gpu , have you tested doing that as of yet?

[@dreamcat4]

ah but what about testing out the usb host mode in a future video? will you be getting around to comparing that? i mean for compatibility on difficult devices, vs the original zero v1s, and against the rpi4. because it has to be somewhere closer to one model than the other model. and very much would like to know which! hehe. many thanks for these videos series BTW 👍

[@st_ishan_will_help]

Can i use a hietsink weaith a fan to overclock it

[@WinningEmpire]

If this had 2GB ram if could be a pretty capable Minecraft server with a couple tweaks

[@arcaderacer586]

How do we rig up some liquid nitrogen cooling to this badboy?

[@ETAPRIME]

🤣

[@512mb4]

I'm worried it'll go up 5ghz then .. :p

[@borreggine2006]

Is capable to run steamlink?

[@ETAPRIME]

Yes it is But.. It only has 2.4Ghz Wifi

[@borreggine2006]

@@ETAPRIME i have an old modem and i use steamlink with 2.4ghz Connection. It works well. It would be trying

[@khangvutien2538]

Interesting video, thanks. Does the Flirc alu case spread the 69°C temperature of the SoC over the whole case? because if it does, the case would be too hot to be manipulated?

[@klausbrinck2137]

It draws 4V*2,5A=10W, this is too ltittle to feel it, unless you touch directly the tiny CPU-surface... If it´s bad for a cpu doesn´t mean it is bad for your skin, the cpu is tiny, much smaller that its outside dimensions, so 10W can really cook it... Exept of it all, a heat sink doesn´t take the heat and stores it, till its huge mass days later reaches 69°C, it dissipates it to the environment instead, almost as fast as it´s generated, cause it´s aluminium. Still, don´t hold it hours-long in your hands, cause your hands will then block the heat-dissipation, so, it should be well-aired, don´t bury it under stuff on your desk.

[@khangvutien2538]

@@klausbrinck2137 Cool. If I may say so :) Thanks

[@carlolalattacosterbosa5821]

Does that OC help the emulation ? (dolphin for example) ;)

[@DrBeefy]

You aren't emulating dolphin on the pi zero

[@FalconWing1813]

Let's test with a mini ice cooler!!!

[@LelouchLamperouge235]

how come radxa zero draws 600 mA at 5V and here its recommended 12.5W ? Are the older chips that inefficient or is there that much overhead for usb power ?

[@AlistairBrugsch]

That's just the max that the micro USB is rated at. The real draw of the (non-overclocked) pi zero 2 is around 800mA under load

[@jarnobot]

Would love emulator benchmarks with these overclocks! :)

[@martindejong3974]

Just wait, there will be such benchmarks soon.

[@YosukeMatsumura]

Flirc case seems great. But does having an aluminum enclosure around the Pi affect the wifi reception/speed at all?

[@3Jmc94]

I have the Flirc ally case for my Pi4 and WiFi is decent. Definitely degrades slightly but depending on your use case, it might not be a big deal

[@AlistairBrugsch]

If its like the flirc full size case, the bottom part is plastic

[@klausbrinck2137]

@@AlistairBrugsch He said it himself, but a look on the inside, when he installs the Pi inside, shows that is all aluminium... After all, it´s the bottom part where the cpu touches the case to dissipate its heat... I wonder how aluminium affects wifi compared to magnetic metals (iron, steel), actually...

[@AlistairBrugsch]

@@klausbrinck2137 aluminium acts like a faraday cage just as ferrous metals do so there needs to be something somewhere to let the radio waves out. Even unibody iPhones with all alu chassis have a plastic strip for radio to pass through

[@klausbrinck2137]

@@AlistairBrugsch You´re totally right, I later recalled making tiny-parabel-plates of aluminium-foil, to concentrate the wifi-signal of my router´s antenna (or wifi-dongle´s antenna, which worked)... ;-)

[@CarlosTorresCali]

Gracias por el video, si puede recuerde hacer un dia el VS..... MISTer VS SIDI ..... =)

[@tf_d]

Here comes Vulkan! Here comes Vulkan! Right down driver support lane! Pi foundation's done it they have granted us with huge performance gains! All the- overheating has been solved thanks to numerous firmware updates! (da da da) The raspberry pi 4's 3D performance is actually insane!

[@Bassquake76]

7:22 2 clicks to get to a sub menu? bit annoying! Guess thats win11 for you 😀

[@mickm234]

Relatively new user here, how does one return to the default settings - and what are they please?

[@CharlieKajuru]

Just delete these 2 lines and save.

[@mickm234]

@@CharlieKajuru Thank you. 😀

[@BerfroidMorzen]

how is the performance for mame, naomi and atomiswave?

[@CharlieKajuru]

About the same as rpi3?

[@BerfroidMorzen]

@@CharlieKajuru no idea, never had one

[@eccy2492]

What you think of the GPD XP

[@carlosmolina3850]

Can you try the performance on pi kvm

[@tonyhall9433]

With just the heatsinks the best I can do is 1.2 which seems enough.

[@mrnobody4183]

Can raspberry pi zero 2 w run scrcpy ?

[@EnvAdam]

I've yet to get mine but do the type-C ports have a 500mA limit? If so this means you'd need a seperate power supply for 2.5in Drives over usb

[@ruhailali7317]

Usb C can carry upto 100W at 5A. Zero 2 doesn't have usb c it has a usb micro B.

[@awakengangster]

No GPU Freq??

[@wrusst]

No GPU overclock?

[@lfjvs]

Try arm_freq=1350 core_freq=500 over_voltage=5

[@LazyBunnyKiera]

if this thing had 1gb or even 2gb of ram id buy it right now. le sigh. 512mb just isnt enough.

[@martindejong3974]

Adding ZRAM seems to work well.

[@bcrispchannel]

My Flirc prevents me from using my adapter plugs due to very minor length or fitting design. Anyone else have the problem?

[@henrydevereux9701]

Yes. I had the same problem with my HDMI to mini HDMI adapter and also with an HDMI to mini HDMI cable.

[@worldwideguitarman]

Now all we need is for them to be available to purchase.......😉

[@harleyn3089]

They were available yesterday. Adafruit had over 100. When they have less than 100 of something it shows the specific number... Sold out now though. They sold all of them within an hour or two. They do have an email alert that will email you when they have more.

[@martindejong3974]

@@harleyn3089 They made 200.000 for launch, and will make 250.000 more first quarter of 2022. Its a miracle they could make 200K in the middle of the chip manufacturing crisis, count your blessings.

[@Mayank_Maximum]

Dolphin emulation pls And fit it in ds lite

[@askdavidhow]

Hoot!

[@mason2me]

I can't seem to find the zero 2 on amazon. The link in your description gives me the same result I get when I search for it, which is basically just pi 4 and pi zero kits. Anybody no where else I can get one or have a working amazon link?

[@ruhailali7317]

It's not available in most stores yet, the ones that had them are out of stock, the stores I buy from says it'll be available in December.

[@Bilal.Hussain.Shaikh]

wow, imagine PlayStation 6 would be like this

[@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart]

??

[@Bilal.Hussain.Shaikh]

@Bold One indeed, I mean if Nintendo switch is small and handheld, there bound to be a pocket console, no?

[@singletona082]

Two gigs of ram, or hell even going to just a gig would make this a hell of a lot better. And yet I stare at my little zero acting as a personal DLNA/FTP/Gemini server with a zero4u bolted to it for full size USB ports and 'but what if you had more horsepower little buddy?'

[@SensSword]

Also, sudo is always pronounced like sudoku in my head. Never understood those who do sue-do. We're already an over litigious society.

[@AdiProMusic]

Hi

[@patrickcadette]

😁😁😁👍👍👍

[@Rexolaboy]

It's halloween, 666 likes on the video lol

[@SensSword]

Never underpower your units. Go 2x as much as you think is necessary. Don't build things to fail.

[@lighthawk95]

Okay, the 'sudu' is driving me nuts. it's 'sudO'!

[@AAjax]

sudo = switch users do. He's saying it right.

[@lighthawk95]

@@AAjax While that is what it represents, the shortened form is meant to allude to the word 'pseudo' since it is a pseudo-user that results from it.

[@fabianboshoven6146]

Why always overclock

[@aladinz88]

why not? its free* performance *needs a bit more energy

[@MrViscious]

Need to squeeze every bit of power out of this little discount board as possible.

[@dantheman3397]

So you buy a $20 heatsink Fan for 300 Mhz more !!!

[@aladinz88]

@@dantheman3397 hey man, did you watch the video? he got 300mhz overclock without a heatsink. and if you want to apply a heatsink, there are passiv ones for 1-5 dollar out there

[@martindejong3974]

@@dantheman3397 Or you stick a dime on it with some heat sink paste, that will work also.