Overcoming "SHAME" of Playing Warhammer | The EYE-OPENING Journey of Stephen Box

[@VanguardTactics]

Dave this is the most incredible gift you could have given me for my birthday. Watching this video with you was just as amazing as when we filmed it. It reminds me of how far I have come, how much I have grown, the amazing people in my life and what I have to be thankful for. I am thankful for you Dave and Miniwargaming

[@phil5357]

A powerful watch my friend. But Dave's right, you have earned this. Your brand stands for something bigger than a game. Be proud of yourself. Take care mate

[@miniwargaming]

It’s an absolute pleasure and an eye-opening experience for me to sit with you and discuss these topics. The hobby can be so much deeper than applying paint to plastic. For some, that’s what it’ll always be and there’s nothing inherently wrong with that. For others, it’s a lifeline. And then there’s every degree in between. I feel like we all have the capacity to experience any one of these feelings at any time in our lives. In my opinion, the one thing that remains consistent is a mindset of acceptance no matter how we choose to engage and you’ve been instrumental in demonstrating the more vulnerable side of that experience. That takes courage. Something our grim dark world could use more of. Thank YOU, for including me and us in your journey.

[@hideinthehole]

Thank you for sharing your story, it really warmed my heart. You're a gift to this community. And happy birthday! 🎉

[@traversal6881]

Happy Birthday! Thank you for the raw and beautiful impact this makes on us. You're inspired me to push forward and make my change through business and leave the fear to the side, despite past traumas and the doubt and confidence hits that comes with them.

[@kargrym]

As one of your first patrons, I am so glad of my small contribution to your dream and what you grew it into.

[@jamesbaird128]

On top of the incredible story I wanted to add that seeing two men talk about personal experience and the emotions involved and supporting each other in expressing them is the positive portrayal of masculinity we need right now.

[@Jesayou]

@@Rob-fn1kp get better b8 m8, your trolls have no power here hahaha

[@jeffshackleford3152]

I don't understand why people would ever care if someone played 40k If you play 40k and the people who you are around don't play, don't talk about it. There is no shame to it

[@KevinvL]

Exactly this ❤

[@Rob-fn1kp]

@@Jesayou beta

[@Jesayou]

@@Rob-fn1kp I've never meet a real a man that uses that term just red pill losers hahah

[@Riper999]

So, I, as a parent lost my little girl. 15 months. My world shattered before my eyes. And one day, trying to keep my head busy, found PlayOn Tabletop channel, and VT and finaly MWG channel. So I decided to start to watch more to learn the game and how to paint. Enroled my very close friend and we baught the 9th edition big starter box. I kept the SM and he took the Necrons. Since then, I have a purple Space Wolves representing my girl, it was her color. This hobby and you guys from these channel prob saved my life, i still today, paint in the middle of the night watching you guys so I dont drift away. And again, with this little 12 minutes video, showing these emotion, made me remind myself that I still can be the father my little 4 yeays old son wants me to be. I cant to play with him, cuz you know, he want to roll all my dices :). Sorry for the wall of text, or the destruction of the english language since its not my first language. Just a big tx u to all of you for keeping the positive videos, the good games and content. Felt good to type this comment, again, tx u. I wish the best for all of you and whoever took the time to read this.

[@korr4000]

My daughter is 15 months right now and I can't even imagine. I so sorry for your loss. I am also glad to hear that you found something to drive you through the hard times. I also have son that is 10 years old. Make sure you are available and present for him even if you are going through a hard time. Hang in there brother. "Listen closely Brothers, for my life's breath is all but spent. There shall come a time far from now when our chapter itself is dying, even as I am now dying. Then my children, I shall listen for your call from whatever realms of death hold me, and come I shall no-matter what laws of life and death forbid. At the end I will be there. For the final battle. For the Wolftime." - Leman Russ, Primarch of the Space Wolves -

[@grain3880]

I'm so sorry for your loss, and glad this hobby has helped you. I started playing after I lost my mom to suicide this passed February. These help occupy and calm the mind sometimes

[@redbeard8986]

I'm sitting here reading this with tears in my eyes, the part about the special space marine for you daughter got to me, my condolences to you man, keep on keeping on

[@aaronwinklmeier]

I’m so sorry for your loss brother. Let her memory live in you.

[@ThySmoke420]

People like you are the reason I see light at the end of the tunnel. The reason I want to be a better person. Thank you for sharing. I know your baby girl looks down at you with pride. I haven’t had a child of mine pass. But I haven’t got to see my son in a very long time, I think about him every single day. And only recently thru seeing these videos and people and how much good they are doing, gives me purpose. I used to think I would never be able to bring value to my life again. And, putting simply, I want to be a role model in whatever capacity like Box has become. Someone with love for not only the game, but treating people with love and care in the best capacity because why would they not deserve otherwise. I hope more people can feel the enlightenment they bring as I have. Thank you for sharing. I know your girl is so happy for you. I hope one day our paths cross and maybe share the same kind of feelings these guys have about the game and each other. Good luck

[@Dovahninja]

Remember guys, it's okay to be a geek. But there's nothing stopping you from being a RIPPED geek.

[@WardenOfTerra]

Stephen is a good dude, and it's cool to see him finally come out of his shell. At first he was very 'formal' and defensive, but now he's far more himself since he's met a lot of people in the Warhammer content creator space. He's realised that there's nothing wrong with just being yourself. It's been good to watch VT's growth on KZbin.

[@kaibe5241]

If there's one place you can truly be yourself - it's this hobby of tabletop war gaming. The most eccentric and bizarre people I've ever met, have been in tabletop wargaming, and all it does is make the community incredibly colourful :)

[@danielkearl7392]

Dear Mr. Stephen Box, Vanguard Tactics and Miniwargaming Dave as well as Miniwargaming, Thank you for this wonderful video. I got into 40k last January I have recently been diagnosed with autism as an adult and am working to get the support I need. My local Warhammer Community is one of the few constants in my life that helped me Navigate this top time. Sometimes I gabe felt shame but thinking of all the support this hobby has given me helps me deal with it. Thank you for everything you all do. You do much to help build a positive global community.

[@clintcameron9924]

I love how MWG not only is the one that lead the way to batreps on you tube. after years and new channels on you tube. Any they are always giving props to the new studios painters and guys like this guy. Unselfishness and giving back that is MWG,

[@MMallon425]

LOVE the new content, Dave! Your videos about your dad and about mental health issues are inspiring. Please keep it up! So great to hear from Stephen, too.

[@left_Dane_right_Dane]

Got me teared up over here. Appreciate all the honesty and vulnerability my brothers. I'm new to the wargaming community but it's incredibly refreshing to dip my toes in a world so focused on fun, and striving to be better (define as you like). Much love.

[@maneman13]

Bravo to both of you. It's hard to talk about inner turmoil and the shame and pain of working through bullying and learning how to stand on your own two feet. I've been playing for over 30 years at this point, since Rogue Trader, and was an Outrider for GW for about a decade, teaching people how to play, running demos, running tournaments, acting as con support staff. I've had the joy of people coming to me and telling me how they remember their first demo game with me and now they're collectors and players and have even gotten others into the hobby. I've even had podcasts and KZbin channels where I talked about 40k and other minis games. I'm so glad to see content creators like the two of you leading the way in the hobby now, you're bringing in new people and doing it the right way. Thank you both for picking up the torch and making it burn brighter than I ever thought would be possible. Good job lads, you're much better then I ever was and I couldn't be more proud of what you've both accomplished and brought to the world.

[@Hellvine]

Thanks for carrying the torch, long beard o7

[@weavetree22]

Both of you guys are so wholesome. I remember getting bullied for playing 40k when I was a kid, i was 6ft tall, ginger and wore glasses but coming back to 40k has been so great meeting people with the same likes, playing awesome games and now even inducting new people into the hobby. Both of you guys are real icons and people i aspire to be more like, every time i see either of you on a podcast video or an article i'll always watch listen or read because theres no hate or judgement just awesome happy vibes. Keep it up the 40k community loves you guys.

[@danielpocock8490]

Having listening to stephen recount how his school years were, I had chills. That was me growing up and that anxiety has always followed me to a small extent. Im 53 now and my son 23 just bought me two warhammer box sets so we can have a shared hobby. Great to hear another story similar mine.

[@ryankrippendorf5053]

I’m a high school teacher and advisor to my student’s game club. I hope you guys don’t mind me sharing this with them. They need to hear this from someone besides me. Thank you.

[@gingerplums1943]

Ah Dave man this got me. Incredible how Stephen opened up to you. Everyone should watch this video, thank you

[@paramedrusty5981]

Everybody needs more Stephen and Dave. Fantastic short celebrating two fantastic leaders of the community. Spartans both. We salute you.

[@SiegeStudios]

SUNS OUT GUNS OUT! Love you both you absolute legends! ❤

[@adamzombie2653]

There are so many great KZbin channels out there for gaming, kitbashing, painting tutorials. An ever growing number of Battle Reports. MiniWargames really paved the wave, but these mini documentaries you be been doing are something else completely. Not just something to elevate the hobby; but something to really elevate the community. Thank you for all you do.

[@Seeuthere]

Thank you for the heartfelt video

[@davidcross7824]

Thank you Dave, Thank you Stephen for fostering such a postive environment for anyone to feel comfortable enjoying this fun little hobby of ours.

[@christiangruening352]

I shed a big manly tear. What an incredible interview. Really strong to go public with this very emotional interview.

[@daniellogue8365]

Throughout college my friends and I were all closeted nerds. It wasn't until our senior year we all found out, and we had such a great time. Since then I've never hid it

[@Jesayou]

I used to hide my 3.5 players handbook and made sure no one found out until my dad found it and was super pissed about it. I talked to him recently about it (im 34) he doesn't even remember it. If you enjoy something and someone thinks less of you because of it, they can go out back and kick rocks. (unless its something like hurting yourself or others then seek advice and help)

[@olivierschoeneich7570]

Damn I wasn't expecting invisible ninjas cutting onions when I click on the thumbnail. Great video and interview !

[@simonhenderson5500]

What a lovely guy and I think he mirrors my own experience growing up and being bullied because of the hobby I chose to be involved in.

[@ba_commander]

I think everyone in the comunity enjoys playing VT players, I try and reinforce Stephen's beliefs in all the games which I play, we're all here to have fun! Thanks for making this video Dave!

[@alBoomer19]

I love how the channel can expand to have content like this on it, and highlight an amazing person like Stephen. I love the authentic conversation

[@okcthunder2344]

I used to be embarrassed by my nerdiness. I grew up a high level athlete, been in the military and now I'm a firefighter. Was so worried about being made fun of and tried to hide it. Then one day I just decided to own it. Love seeing people owning and not caring what people think about our hobbies. Love this interview and I hope everybody can see this. Incredible job.

[@handkantenronny1716]

beatiful video, im not crying! you are! :*-) its guys like you that form the hobby and the scene. its a safe haven for everybody!

[@sidewinder3694]

Im a grown ass man who graduated us army sniper school in 2014 and what he said about planning his trips to the shops and hiding his models from the shame of being ridiculed is something i did since i was a kid and still do today. Seems like a genuine human. I dig this vid

[@WraithMace]

Awesome video! Love hearing the story of Stephen!

[@orsogufo91]

I'm not a wargamer myself because I'm more into tabletop rpgs (started with D&D 3rd ed sort of 20 years ago) but I deeply understand what this video tries to bring out of our inner selves. As I'm not a very sociable person (I can feign it well since i'm lucky enough to have got the skills but that's it) and even when i tried i couldn't integrate myself without feeling like i was killing my soul, I went from wanting to "be normal" to rejecting any compromise as "I am this and you can like or dislike it but don't bother me". Being lucky enough having true friends on my side, I can surely state that i came out of my teens walking tall but recently i noticed something worriesome: trpgs became sort of trendy and i fear the community 'll become just like that of videogames. Gatekeeping, elitarian, toxic and totally not safe for the new entries and in general for those who seek refuge in it. As if there are "normal cool nerds" and "shamefull nerds" and a new division and exclusion will be born. I just say "beware".

[@Baldurs9891]

A very touching video. I have recently decided to sign up to VT because I really like their group and as a new player I think it's the people you play with and learn from that make it for you and their emphasis on being a good opponent whether you win or lose is really decent. I remember being a kid and WH being described as geeky and being bullied so I didn't take it up only doing so walking past a shop in my 30s I really look back now and think I should have just done it then as the community and being around others who paint and play is a really fun collective experience. I'm glad Steven is doing well and Chaos Dave is just a genuinely awesome guy.

[@AdoringAdmirer]

VERY wholesome video. As a guy who lifts, plays warhammer, and is able to show emotion, I must say I really appreciate you guys opening up not only in front of each other, but in front of a camera, in such a real and authentic way.

[@angelicforce0188]

That moment, when Dave told Stephen , "we have a spartan in our wargaming community!", was the moment where a herculean brother of strength assured and was fully proud of his herculean brother Stephen. Nor only that, but a moment where he told about the reality of his stand, one that has been a tough battle that seems to have no end, and it's beginning was not known. Yet, Dave made it clear that the legacy that Stephen has is, was, and will still be progressing to godhood in its totality! I love it, such a great moment of assurance and emotional acknowledgement!

[@LithNeo]

I'm so happy that he has finally been able to be himself. It's all to common for people who look like he does and become a target for people to harass and mock for what he enjoys doing. People like him, Travis Willingham, Paul Wright, Mark Sinclair and others who openly talk about their love for dnd, Warhammer, and anything like it helps push it forward and show the world that the stereotype isn't what people expect and it's a hobby for everyone and there shouldn't be any shame for playing these. I hope and wish him all the best and to keep pushing and being the amazing teacher his is! Keep being who you are, the world is a better place for it.

[@Ryu62Alpha]

This hit hard, much appreciation for sharing I remember growing up and there weren't a lot of Asian kids at my local shop who played. Whevern I painted my elves, they said that they aren't suppose to have black hair, got made fun of at school, etc I left whole hobby in high school, focused on martial arts instead. Later in collage I found a group of friends who happened to be into Warhammer and D&D. They made me feel welcome Finding a group of folks to share in the hobby is so key, and I'm so happy that there is an online presense for new players to feel accepted

[@kevlarburrito6693]

I'm trying to do the same thing Stephen is doing, for veterans at the local gaming store I work at. I'm a veteran myself and I'm trying to create something that veterans in the area can have that doesn't focus on what's wrong with them and can give them a positive outlet, or even just something to do, when they come back from the service. That was my biggest issue when I came back; there was (and still is) nothing for us when we return that doesn't place an emphasis on all of the negatives of having served; the trauma, the injuries, the homelessness, the unemployment, the inability to fit in, all of that. It's soul crushing and I'm trying to get something going that allows fellow vets to feel like they have a place to go where they can escape from that, even if it's just for a few hours.

[@thashadowspawn]

Happy Tears, big bro moment from 8 mins onward! Cheers brother Steven and Brotha Dave!

[@warpaintjj]

I’m a 55 yr old gamer, been playing for over 45 yrs & I’m not sure I’ve ever been quite as moved by another gamer’s experience as this short video. Great interviewer too. Best wishes to you both Gents. 💪

[@goreborn6045]

I am writing this before the video premieres, as i am sure that once upon a time, all of us have gone through this. It may have occurred many years ago by this point to some of us, or quite literally as we speak to others. I am not aware how severe this situation was before the turning of the millennium, but, at least where i come from, and at a younger age, being ridiculed was the norm for me. I was not interested in many things my peers were by that point in junior high school (it was towards the end of the last year that it climaxed). Football was not my thing, i was playing basketball but i was not madly in love with it. I was not into trying to get a girlfriend, and i gotta admit i was chubby back then (hehe). So i turned my attention to warhammer and especially Gotrek and Felix, the books that, alongside my father, uncle and Miniwargaming brought me into the hobby. But painting minis and reading books was seen by many guys as...a sissy's hobby (could not find the proper term for the word). I still have the torn books and pages, and the broken minis from that time. Teachers were taking my side, but these dudes simply did not care, and quite a few girls supported them. I do not know if that whole part made me angry and bitter towards my peers (like an Iron Warrior, hehe) but it certainly made my mouth, soul and heart the Iron Cage for such unfortunate souls. Thankfully, i have found this community, where i can be me, even if not to the fullest due to restrictions i have at the moment. But i am simply free, to roam around the halls of this community, alone or with friends, chatting with with amazing people and even having the opportunity to write small stories of my own. This is me just rambling around to be honest, so to get to the point, i know the pain, the fear, the shame of being a wargamer. And that is why people like you are my heroes. Dave being Kharn and Steve being Dante. Keep it up champions and let blood flow forevermore in the name of wargaming. See you on the fields of gore!

[@jonathanv3294]

Its one of the things i can thanks internet for, when i first started the hobby in the early 2000 as a teen, i felt alone in my nerdy games , nowadays even if people will look at my mini and still give me the same smirk i have access to a huge online community across many website and platform and i know others enjoy and feels the same way about the hobby and we can all share it much easier, also f the haters

[@Roylevis]

I am nearly 40, been doing the hobby on and off since i was around 12. And nowadays i happily tell people about my lovely sociable and fun hobby! People look questionable at me, at first but after i tell them more how much fun i have doing it. With the painting and the wonderful communty there is around Warhammer. They start to look jealous. Be Proud of your hobby. I know people who tell me they wish they could be like me, to find a fun hobby to hang around likeminded people. Deep inside they wish they were brave enough to play with adult toys.

[@robertchmielecki2580]

I absolutely don't negate anyone else's experience, but I've never encountered such behaviour from anyone. In fact most people were either disinterested or showed appreciation for skill and effort even if it wasn't their cup of tea. I've never felt shame for doing the hobby. Quite the opposite, in the world where hobby for millions means sitting on a couch and watching someone else do sports ours is something you can be rightfully proud of.

[@garyjenson1326]

Empathy is learned through life experience. Bullying is a combination of lack of empathy and insecurity. Children have both of these things in abundance.

[@robertomacari501]

I can relate to the shame aspect of the hobby. It’s strange though… don’t get me wrong but as a kid when I got into it, Warhammer was seen as a bit of an alternative game. I never played because of this and was only interested in painting. You walked into a GW and were hounded by “nerdy” “awkward” staff who basically tried to push items on to you with a bit too much enthusiasm haha. Honestly I’d say most parents hated this so denied their children getting involved. This plus the high price barrier for many families meant GW was an easy target for “normies” or people who could not afford the hobby. Was never personally bullied myself as a kid because I was a “normy” in the sense that I was athletic, confident and usually a centre of attention in my friend group or captained my sports teams. Yet I myself remember the stigma around GW and the embarrassment of carrying a Warhammer bag or being seen with a white dwarf. It caused me to take a 10+ year hiatus with the odd sneaky white dwarf in between. Even to this day (27yrs old) I still get a sense of awkwardness carrying a Warhammer bag through town. As Warhammer has slowly become more mainstream though this is disappearing.

[@isogaming6775]

Amazing nostalgia waiting for every new video Dave & MiniWarGaming did as i was painting warhammer years ago. I personally know Stephen from his bodybuilding coaching days and can say he's so genuine and has a pure talent for teaching/coaching and helping people. Great to see you both doing so well. K

[@MarshalDiedrecht]

I'm 33 and will be 34 in October, I think Stephen is a big Inspiration for me in my Warhammer Journey and as I started my fitness journey last year myself begining to see results in both journeys, he became more and more an example for me and still is. The game against you with the flex dice roll was so awesome that I wanted to become such a nice player and person myself. Love the energy and the Video from both of you. This story and the emotions is that kind of story, that gets water in the eyes of the most unemotional man, feeling proud of him even when only knowing him through the videos. Love you guys, hope to one time meet you or even play against you. Keep up the awesome Work.

[@warhammer1995]

Happy 35th birthday now

[@WarGamesNewsRadio]

You durpy durps got me right in the feels! I can relate so well to the bullying and "shame," and it's such an amazing thing to know that those who have felt that way aren't alone. MWG and Vanguard tactics were huge inspirations to starting our own channel, so thank you for this amazing message and for all you do!

[@cavemanben]

The shame comes from the fact that it's a perishable and indulgent pastime. However it's also relaxing, mentally stimulating, artistic and expressive. Other pastimes have some utilitarian use or carry a higher "market value" that convey higher social status. Gaming in general does not have the thousands of years of cultural heritage that hunting or athletics (for example) have so those activities are held in much higher esteem. Best advice one can give to fellow gamers is "don't devote your life to something you don't have the ability to make a living off of", which means, get yourself and your house in order and ensure your time is well invested in your work, your health and your family before you invest time into your gaming hobbies.

[@traversal6881]

This is beautiful, raw, and so relatable on many levels as a person, hobbyist and fellow teacher. You're both amazing people and I love being here to watch this and connect with you both through this community. You know what? I'm going to start my business. Screw the fear. Thank you both for the push.

[@ComandaKronikk]

Hows the business going?

[@SgtOLi40k]

The man is a treat thanks Dave for bringing him on. It's great to see his story. You both are inspiration to the hobby.

[@simonellis7303]

This is an immense video ❤ I have huge respect for both of you (Dave & Steve) overcoming stigma and personal doubts to have a huge impact on the community. I happily carry a GW bag or wear an imperial guard symbol T-shirt with no shame at all. This is our hobby to enjoy and everyone gets to embrace it. Thanks both!

[@melsminiloft]

It’s so great seeing stories from others in the community. So many of us struggle with expressing what we love for fear of being shamed or ridiculed just for doing something we enjoy. It happened to me all through my childhood and I’m sure with so many others and it took me a while to be ok with sharing my love of all my hobbies and I still occasionally struggle with it. But it’s ok to be yourself! And the community has become so welcoming to people from all places. Thank you so much for sharing this!

[@ritchiekolvers997]

The worst part is that a large part of that rejection takes place in our own brain. It is not so much the rejection by others that drives anxiety, but the fear of rejection. The moment you accept yourself, a burden is lifted and when you are confronted with those rare cases of rejection (most people are actually pretty cool) their insults cannot hurt you anymore.

[@July__Frost]

When it started I thought that it is the strangest warhammer video I've ever seen, in the end - it brought me to tears.

[@mrgzola25]

This is amazing to watch. I'm 57 and never played any Warhammer video game or board game and I really want to start. I might just be a bit too old. I'm still a gamer mind.

[@ComandaKronikk]

Do it! It has brought me such joy!

[@jimwhite2541]

Thanks for the inspiration , both of you.

[@Birkenhead.Raver_YNWA]

Just a little message to Stephen Box. I went through the same thing as a kid and hid it from my family. I also used to have the ruck sack to hide my minatures. I stopped collecting when I was 12 as I just couldn't take how I was made to feel for loving Warhammer 40k. I went off and was working and had a family and living my life but last Christmas I found myself single and living on my own. I thought I need something to keep me busy of an evening and also after suffering badly with my mental health something therapeutic. I remember how much I loved Warhammer gaming and painting. So last Christmas I bought a white dwarf I spotted in a shop and bought the Leviathan box 😃 I've been a fan of yours since around that time. Your videos are very helpful and not only make me want to be a better painter but also Inspire me to run better tactics in my monthly games with friends. Keep up the great content and remember your smashing it 😃

[@Jelle1880]

This is such an amazing video. Seeing Steven's personal journey but also being open about hjs emotions and feelings is so refreshing. Thanks for making this video.

[@gnol4688]

This video is so impressive. The content the professionality of the craftsmanship behind the production. This is a high level documentary. Big respect for everyone which ist part of this awesome production

[@thomasnesmith5426]

I hear this story again and again about young men and school where it doesn't click. A lot of men are hands on crafters, doers, builders, athletes and other types that need to be in a very different world growing up. When they are starved of that fulfillment it destroys your motivation. You always feel out of step and people make it even more obvious when you are in a class everyday. Glad to see a story of hitting that wall, then breaking through it to help others do the same. Love the Vanguard content and this was a great interview.

[@mackinnoncreative302]

I can relate to the feelings shared in the video a lot, you both are heroes of the community

[@Skeletor2110]

Powerful stuff. I think this video has resonated with a lot of people who are not just into warmhammer but nerd culture in general (i dont play table top but love the lore/books/videos games). I'm sure many of us have all experienced what stephen has gone through when we were younger, feeling like you dont fit in, trying to hide who you are because you are afraid of what other people might think, but as we get older we learn to embrace it and be proud of what we love. We need more people like stephen in these communities, thank you stephen for sharing this with us, and thank you dave for being an absolute champion of the community as always. Big love to you brothers, keep on doing what you are doing!

[@byronkelly2]

Great video. I got choked up watching it. I just started 40K last Christmas but I’ve always wanted to play it since I was 9. I had the same worries described in the video. Thanks for making this video guys!

[@alastor461]

I honestly thought the title was a click-bait title before watching the video. I'm so glad I watched it. Thank you Dave and Stephen! That was excellent!

[@edeigor]

I love both your channels. You are both amazing people. Thank you

[@Coraax]

@miniwargaming Dave, i think from the few words you said regarding "you're there now". Man that hit harder than khorne. You've just set Stephen on a rocket ship. I could feel the emotion. @vanguardtactics Stephen, never fear doing what you're doing or where you're going. We all see what you're doing, we appreciate it. Your legacy is now

[@MrRavoss]

Great video. Thanks for sharing Stephen!

[@Domstar75]

Awesome video, first saw you on The Painting Phase. Never met you but have a lot of respect for your values and the fun you are bringing to the game. Take care dude

[@FacesNBases]

Such an amazing video and 2 very inspirational people. Thankyou for sharing this moment.

[@phaedrus1117]

Dave gave the most brilliant gift I've seen a human give another human with that statement to make Stephen realize he's already living his goal and that everyone around him sees it. So much respect for both of you in the vulnerability you laid bare in this interview as well as for the communities you've both built around our hobby. Thank you. And, Happy Birthday, Stephen.

[@TheHobbyCollab]

Loved this video, loved getting to know Stephen a bit better in this way.

[@Muttsy89]

This video!!!!! What a great insight into Stephen’s background. Passionate and inspirational! One of the first videos I watched when I got back into the hobby 18 months ago was a Vanguard Tactics one, broke the game down amazingly without being patronising!! Keep doing what you’re doing Stephen!!

[@smeebo86]

Just want to say both Dave and Stephen are amazingly wholesome pillars of the community and personally I just want to say thank you to both of you for doing this video and please please please do some more shenanigans/gaming based video together! Also I did cry with you guys a bit there

[@oniswdbs]

Thank you both for this.

[@mattclewer750]

@vanguardtactics and @mwgstudios For someone feeling so lost….I feel found because of people like you Steven and Dave

[@zacharylupstein3758]

What an amazing video! You both are amazing!

[@stevenmartin563]

This hits home with so many of us. So many stories of bullying and feeling like you needed to hide the thing you loved, sometimes the only thing keeping you going. Top, top man for sharing this Stephen and also Dave and the whole MWG team. It needs to be talked about more.

[@bitzbox]

What a great story and a powerful video. I think most of us can relate to feeling that shame a bit. There's certainly no shame in being a part of this amazing hobby

[@matthewtucker1578]

You all are so valuable members of this community, and stories of dealing withmental health, both within and outside the hobby are invaluable. As a person who has dealt with mental health issues, and helped others, it is paramount to support your fellow hobbyists, you never know when someone giving you a compliment, or simply giving you a pat on the back physically or proverbial, will literally save their lives. So I want to say thank you, and everyone on your teams, that contribute so much to the hobby. You are all saints in my book

[@aaronreid2695]

Guys so much love and respect from me..honestly it's been hard sometimes feelings of judgment and other snide looks about this hobby we love,the more I see people like yourself it shows me that WE are the cool ones and this hobby and also these channels dedicated to our hobby are really something special, I feel a true connection and love...makes my day please never stop.shout out MWG P.O.T.T VANGUARD TACTICS!..the real ones

[@stephenryder3331]

Stephen when you said the part about going into the gaming shop with the bag so people on the street wouldn't know what you bought etc, that really hit home with me. I got into Warhammer through LOTR too and I used to go to my local shop with a large carrier bag in my pocket so when I bought some models people didn't see me what I'd bought too. I guess we were doing the same thing at the same time for the same reasons just in different cities in the UK. Good luck with everything you do!

[@adamsmith219]

This is by far the best warranting video I’ve ever watched. I had the exact same feelings growing up and loving Warhammer and it wasn’t until I became comfortable with myself that I found I could be open about a hobby that I love! I still find I come across people who try to make fun but I own it, show them what I do and explain it to them and I often find that most people would actually love to try it themselves! Thanks to both of you for being so open and real!

[@RebelWithACoz]

Thank you for this video. Thanks Steve. Thanks Dave. Well done lads.

[@michaelraniga9336]

Love this video…thank you so much. As a recent Warhammer gamer I can feel what you all feel. But despite what others think I’m going head first into this hobby and loving more and more of it. We need more videos like this to show other Warhammer gamers the benefits of this hobby for mental health

[@chrismehigan]

Thank you both for having the strength to film and publish this showing your emotion. Great video and an inspiring story. Strength and honour.

[@hauntedchaos3939]

I absolutely love seeing how, us wargamers, hobbyists, nerds and 40k fans, all come together as a community, supporting each other and the hobby we all love. It's incredible to see how far people come, with personal stories and experiences that they don't forget. I personally love seeing us fans, enjoy the hobby so much that it inspires us to become better and support each other. A touching video, with amazing channels and amazing guys talking about their experiences

[@robertobassatt3141]

Amazing interview you can see and feel his pain but he have so much to be proud of never forget all the good you've done.

[@derekgarcia3069]

I'm happy that Alex (52 Miniatures) made me aware of your channel, because it's truly something special. I don't watch all of the battle reports, but these videos are what really make your channel stand out for me. You're such a positive force of energy in the community. As someone in my early 40's who still struggles with talking about my hobbies because of fear of embarrassment and judgement, it really hits home. I have made an effort lately, and will casually make comments about painting and gaming though. Small steps! Thank you for being you, and doing what you do!

[@bensinclair129]

The community around this hobby is truly amazing and i've never come across anything like it before. I also left the hobby as a teenager beacuse i was ashamed of it. And now having rediscovered it as an adult, it's like i have rediscovered a key part of myself i didnt realise i had lost. You feel so connected to each and everyone in the hobby and its the amazing content creators like Stephen and Dave that make his happen. I can be sat alone, but watching one of their videos i feel like I am in a room among friends. Despite being in a small hobby group of just a few people you feel part of somethig much bigger and so special. Keep up the great work!

[@TheChronicToast]

Thank you both so very much for this honest dive into what what drives you in this hobby and your interactions with others. You are not alone and you are appreciated!

[@barafosteelfounder]

Literally the same experience for me. As a teenager, playing Lord of the Rings, I used to walk to my local GW which was a trek to say the least. In order to avoid people seeing my black GW model case I used to put the entire case in a Sainsburys shopping bag. Early 2000's was rough.

[@tomwhitworth6526]

What a fantastic video and conversation. Please do more of these! Had me tearing up

[@batteredwarrior]

Love both of you guys! You both bring so much positivity and support to hobbyists across the world, and we all see you! Keep on doing what you do!

[@IonicBeard]

This is the kind of video that I wish I could give more than a thumbs up. I felt the same way in the mid 90s, with a few friends and our local store. I'm just greatful now for the wondeful ways, be it discord or youtube, that more of us can connect through this great hobby.

[@MisterTingles]

Be kind to yourself and to others. Do what you enjoy doing in the hobby, and be genuine and generous when you get a chance to share what you enjoy, be proud of what you like.

[@n3crowarlvck]

It’s crazy how many fitness nerds like myself are also Warhammer nerds. No shame in getting strong in body and mind as well as rolling dice. WE ARE LEGION BROTHERS 💪🏻⚔️

[@harald2101]

considering on how the interview developed the thumbnail was a bit cheeky. but i guess that is what generates the reach and this video needs to be seen. you both are great and do so much for the hobby or shall I say sport. thanks to both of you! great video!

[@Slydamiser]

first time ive cried in 5 years since my grandmother died, she was the only person who purchased me any warhammer models, took me into the store to took at the paints and models i wanted so bad. this was such an awesome interview and made me remember some of my favourite times.

[@cabellism]

Such a good video, and looking forward to more like this. Both of yall are huge pillars of strength in the Wargaming universe.

[@joshoconnor9720]

Hi guys, love to see this coming up and being spoken about, the more we do, the better it is for all! I have always loved wargaming and have had friendships built from it. Whether it has been ignorance or arrogance, I haven't felt the pain of this harassment as badly, one of the lucky ones I guess. The problem I am now having that due to sight loss, I have lost these communities and really struggle to play and enjoy the games. Going from a lucky one to an unlucky one has been hard, but I know as well as the dark side of persecution, there is also the light side of great communities that build great friendships through this hobby! It is one I am deeply missing! Keep wargaming!!!

[@Tiger2685]

Powerful video, Dave. Thank you to Stephen for sharing. I've struggled with embracing my hobbies and passions my whole life. I've always felt like I can't wear them on my sleeve. I see a lot of my own story in Stephen, and it's very empowering to know we share a common thread.

[@DaveFrags]

Love this video! Great work guys

[@DKHMWargames]

Though i usually watch tons of batreps from MWG, i dont use to comment a lot but... you guys...youre just amazing. Thank you MWG and Vanguard Tactics for all your passion and effort.

[@valleystabletopgaming.8860]

What a very awesome touching story.thank you both for sharing that.🫶🏻

[@jsdahl]

Dave is a treasure to the community. As someone struggling with mental health issues, it feels good to see someone as well regarded as Dave put focus on it. Haven't watched Vanguard Tactics, but the story of bullying for liking something that's considered "nerdy" really hit home with me. Thank you to the both of you!

[@yoandriperaza8556]

Love u guys!! Thanks!! I found warhammer during my deployment to Afghanistan, and since then has been my way to cope with so many serious struggles in life!! Thank u guys!!!

[@MontyCaribdis]

What a great video! thanks for sharing it!