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The State of Play

The State of Play

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@michaelbrockelhurst4227
@michaelbrockelhurst4227 2 ай бұрын
I came for the video on primer and stayed for what proved to be ONE OF THE BEST TUTORIALS ON APPLIED COLOR THEORY I HAVE EVER WATCHED. HOLY COW.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Now that’s a compliment. Thank you, thank you. You always worry that KZbin buries your video in a pile of dirty laundry. But it seems it did it’s job this time! 😜
@paulhargreaves1497
@paulhargreaves1497 2 ай бұрын
@@thestateofplay2023 I think we need a part 2 to the inks mixing.........just saying.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
What would be in part 2 do you think!
@paulhargreaves1497
@paulhargreaves1497 2 ай бұрын
@@thestateofplay2023 Well......a Dropbox location for the chart 😎. Also, I'd love to know how to mix inks from a CMYK I get from an online colour (say FS as I model aircraft). They omit the white because it's assumed you'll be printing on white. Really appreciate the effort you put into your videos!
@Kakashi-ip8mg
@Kakashi-ip8mg 2 ай бұрын
No doubt
@alphagrendel
@alphagrendel 2 ай бұрын
Love this. I'm not painting for a Golden Demon. I'm painting to have fun. The hobby needs more of this.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Yes I wholeheartedly agree!!
@Creamzilla
@Creamzilla 4 күн бұрын
I am painting for a golden demon 😔
@alphagrendel
@alphagrendel 4 күн бұрын
@@Creamzilla Good for you.
@elementual
@elementual 3 күн бұрын
I'm not painting for a Golden Demon, but I still act like I am and it's kind of a problem. I've got so little done. Lol
@shawnald
@shawnald 2 ай бұрын
I've seen a couple of these "color zenithal" vids (including Jon's) but the "how" wasn't explained well. This finally broke through my brain fog. Your on-screen graphics were absolute gold. Your explanation was terrific. Your insights into why we do illogical steps was spot-on. It hurt, but I needed to hear it.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Haha! Thanks. Yeah I think a lot of this hobby is doing stuff because we’ve always done stuff. It’s only when you step back and go “hang on a minute” that you can dump all the stuff that just wastes time. 👍🏼
@virrcraft
@virrcraft 2 ай бұрын
oh, and maybe timelines for someone, who might be interested... 00:00 - Intro 00:44 - Welcom to the State Of Play -> About this video 01:34 - The end. ok, joke ;) 03:19 - Rattlecan Single Colour 06:26 - Rattlecan For Contrasts 07:40 - Rattlecan B&W Zenithal 10:00 - Rattlecan Multi Colour 11:45 - Airbrush B&W Zenithal 13:34 - Airbrush Multi Colour 18:37 - Airbrush Multi Colour V2 19:48 - Slapchop Greyscale 21:03 - Slapchop Multi Colour 21:56 - Combine Methods White Drybrush 22:43 - Zenithal Plus Contrast Tinting 23:58 - Main tip from this video and final important things (if I haven't missed anything)
@Kakashi-ip8mg
@Kakashi-ip8mg 2 ай бұрын
I thought I was getting a simple video on what I thought I was knowledgeable in, and I got schooled by a genius. Sub earned
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
I try not to make simple videos. 🤣 wish I did as they’d take less time to make!
@Kakashi-ip8mg
@Kakashi-ip8mg 2 ай бұрын
@@thestateofplay2023 as a lazy student I totally understand, but as a d level painter trying to improve I really appreciate the work.
@marcbennett9232
@marcbennett9232 2 ай бұрын
I used to paint figures some 25 years ago, and we always primed white. I remember when people first started recommending priming black, and when colored primers started becoming available. I personally only prime black if im painting predominantly metal or black, otherwise I will prime white or my base color.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
And you make perfect sense with that approach. 👍🏼
@ajemma78
@ajemma78 2 ай бұрын
Sometimes the internet is a fabulous place. I just got my studio cleaned up, my airbrush cleaned out ready to go, and a whole tray of clan rats that need to be primed and painted...what amazing timing. Your original airbrushing video convinced me to get one in the first place (Ultra 2024 again thanks to you.) Thank you so much.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Oh man, that Skaventide box just arrived on my doorstep too. Just when I’d already build and primed what I thought - was everything. 🤣
@Bluebeast2005
@Bluebeast2005 Ай бұрын
Father of a son who's getting into WH40k here... this is the best video I've seen thus far! Thank you very much for this; I shelled out the moula for his airbrush last Christmas and was saddened by the fact we only used it for priming. We'll watch this video again together and use your help. Thanks State of Play from across the pond!
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
You’re very welcome! I hope both you and your son have many years of enjoyment with 40k! Kill team and necromunda next….👍🏼
@MLGWuba
@MLGWuba 7 күн бұрын
W Dad
@wigxu
@wigxu Ай бұрын
I normally decide on the colour of primer based on the tone of colour I want. Example; bright red, prime white, mid red prime grey, dark red prime black. The colour theory in this video is real brainfood though and I love the thought of primer being "the first layer of colour". Great vid.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Thanks for saying that mate!!
@mattkeepingazoriustactical
@mattkeepingazoriustactical 2 күн бұрын
Acolyte catching strays in a video about primers. Well played brother.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 Күн бұрын
I bow in acceptance. 😜🤣
@TheHunch8ack
@TheHunch8ack 2 ай бұрын
Christ, the KZbin algorithm actually came through for once. Instead of throwing me ridiculous videos of Yanks shouting at each other it's everything I needed to know just before I unpack (after buying it four years ago . . . ahem) my airbrush! Cheers!
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Not a problem. For the last three weeks I’ve had YT serving me up Ben Shapiro videos. I’ve never once clicked on one.
@TheHunch8ack
@TheHunch8ack 2 ай бұрын
@@thestateofplay2023 I discovered YT Shorts about 6 months ago (or 'Grandad TikTok' as my daughter was quick to name it) and it all started off lovely with loads of history, science and philosophy. Now I've got a stream of snide 'high value' men putting down rooms full of OnlyFans girls, 'cops gone bad' and Japanese girls in big boots all doing the same dance in the street. And when I click on 'want to try something different' it gives me Korean girls doing the same dance. I'm just waiting for Ben Shapiro to join in. Possibly while Charlie Kirk and Bill Maher provide a beat-box vocal track in the manner of that chap off Police Academy. Time to turn off and read a book, I feel. Thanks for this video anyway. Really handy. I'm a total wuss about airbrushes but I've got to just bite the bullet. I've ordered stuff on your advice: wish me luck . . .
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Now I could go a bunch of Korean dancing girl vids! Hmmm, where’s the short feed….😜
@TheHunch8ack
@TheHunch8ack 2 ай бұрын
@@thestateofplay2023 Maybe the algorithm knows us better than we think. Bayes was right . . .
@alexandrebelinge8996
@alexandrebelinge8996 2 ай бұрын
I sat on my airbrush for years and started a few days ago and omg what was I waiting for ... So smooth, so easy love it !
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Such an amazing difference isn’t it.
@teslacoil4335
@teslacoil4335 2 ай бұрын
sounds painful, did it leave any marks on ya rear?
@MrSmashySmash
@MrSmashySmash 2 ай бұрын
Undercoats are perfectly understandable for faster jobs But priming by brush really teaches you to be more financially responsible when you have to prime all of your stuff by hand
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Now you tell me. Where were you when I spent £300 on rattlecans! 🤣🤣 It’s mainly a time thing. With two young kids, a job and a YT channel- I don’t have time or patience to prime by hand anymore.
@MrSmashySmash
@MrSmashySmash 2 ай бұрын
@@thestateofplay2023 oh that's entirely understandable, it's kinda funny going through them one by one and realizing that I have plenty of models to paint
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Don’t we all!!
@darthkek1953
@darthkek1953 2 ай бұрын
The cost of rattle cans was the reason I bought an Airbrush (H&S Ultra v2) and a Timbertech-like compressor with tank. Bottles of primer are not expensive, certainly compared to the amount you will get from them vs can, and you can do beautiful gradients. I'm no artist never touched an AB before and I had smooth, perfect gradients within the first 30 minutes of opening my airbrush box. (But I had watched SOP review, and lots and lots of videos mainly Vince Venturella).
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
I think Vince is our hobby messiah. 🤣
@JerryH171
@JerryH171 2 ай бұрын
As an intermediate hobbyist I still learn a lot from every one of your videos! Your combination of narration, graphics and real life footage is really fun to watch :)
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Thank you very much!
@ex0ne
@ex0ne 2 ай бұрын
Ha, you mentioned The Acolyte, and the video got interrupted with an ad for... The Acolyte! Foil hats on, guys! 😅
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Really?! Well I guess they have to push it as no one is watching. I guess that’s how ads on KZbin work, they match them to the words a KZbinr says, maybe?
@ex0ne
@ex0ne 2 ай бұрын
@thestateofplay2023 it would not surprise me if that's how it actually works. I haven't seen The Acolyte, and more ads won't get me to see it
@kergankerrosson607
@kergankerrosson607 2 ай бұрын
@@thestateofplay2023 Thats Option 1... Option 2 is "The Algorythm says NERDS"
@maciejs.5094
@maciejs.5094 Ай бұрын
​@@ex0ne well basing your opinion on the word of others is not always the best way to go, you know. When I heard most of the hate is on diverse characters and "space lesbians" I decided I'll watch it and enjoy it. And that I did. Wasn't perfect for sure, but wasn't half terrible as ppl say.
@codyott1982
@codyott1982 2 ай бұрын
Im a blood angels player, and I use contrast/speed paints. I suggest doing brown for your base, either tan or light brown for your middle layer, and off white with your drybrush. Or you can do brown base, red, bright orange drybrush. Then do your contrast paint over that. It makes your reds look better.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Sounds like a good plan!
@codyott1982
@codyott1982 2 ай бұрын
@@thestateofplay2023 if done right, your shadows will be a maroon color (light red looks when its in shadows) and your highlights will be bright red light the sun is hitting them, and everything in-between will be the proper shade of red for how much light is hitting it. Tons better than black and varying shades of grey going to white. I did some like that and they looked ok..... But not right.
@hollyd8989
@hollyd8989 29 күн бұрын
​@codyott1982 is that using the citadel blood angels contrast? How do you do yellow helmets for assault marines? Just started collecting/painting blood angels myself
@codyott1982
@codyott1982 26 күн бұрын
@@hollyd8989 yea, for blood angels and blood angels red. For my helmets, I go over them in grey then Vallejo model color ivory dry brush first.
@dodosh9444
@dodosh9444 2 ай бұрын
I am rather new to mini painting but come from an art background. Really boggled my mind why everyone seemed to prime in black. In classical painting you would usually prime with your shadow tones, mostly oranges, browns and purples to have a good contrast and mood already. Glad to hear that isn't only me being surprised.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Totally get you. I’m from a fine art and design background and the whole black canvas thing always is me scratching my head. Great for some techniques like chalk or pastel but for bright acrylic paint?!
@RespiraparatuVida
@RespiraparatuVida 2 күн бұрын
What an absolutely brilliant video! One of the BEST ever
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 күн бұрын
Thank you for saying so!
@Primordian-P
@Primordian-P 2 ай бұрын
This video was relatable, and motivational. After using an airbrush, I'd say that batch painting miniatures without an airbrush feels like painting a wall with a toothbrush.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Yea, I once cut my lawn with scissors just to prove to my better half that we needed a decent lawnmower. It worked.
@FranekWrobel-hp7zp
@FranekWrobel-hp7zp 2 ай бұрын
Binge watching multiple videos a day. Never until now I saved a video to rewatch. You’re a wizard.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Really? Thank you so much. Not even my wife wants to see me that often! 🤣🤣
@thehappyogryn
@thehappyogryn 2 ай бұрын
Since i started using an airbrush for priming there's no turning back . The amount of paint wasted, and dust created buy a rattle can drove me on to try again and lose my fear to use an airbrush...no turnig back now. Great video and so many tips.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Yeah I mostly use rattlecans for terrain due to size and speed. But even then, airbrush is still preferable.
@Cassmatic2077
@Cassmatic2077 Ай бұрын
Came here as I just bought my first Blood Angel set, now I’m hooked on this channel. Excellent content👌
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Thank you. Only sorry I can’t do this full time!
@Politov
@Politov 2 ай бұрын
Helldunkel is my new name for it from now on. Thanks for that 😂
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
I mean I’d advise against but it really is a great word!!!
@Woodard126
@Woodard126 2 ай бұрын
This is an absolute masterclass not only in the topic at hand, but how all KZbin videos should be done 👏🏻
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Really?! Thank you. I’m humbled.
@Woodard126
@Woodard126 2 ай бұрын
@@thestateofplay2023 concise but detailed, excellent humour, top notch production and awesome minis... What's not to love? 😅
@billcedarheath387
@billcedarheath387 2 ай бұрын
This is one of those things that the fine scale modelers do well and that the miniature gaming world could learn from. I was a fine scale modeler long before I got into wargaming and I’ve always considered primer color before painting my little dudes because of that. Like the video mentioned, I too always just thought it was a lazy aspect of miniature painters wanting to get armies on the table as fast as they can. I’m now wondering if it is a lack of awareness of such techniques. I often see miniature painters “discover” something like it is some brand new technique that never existed. I’m looking at you SlapChop enjoyers. I’d encourage wargamers to explore fine scale modeler channels and even the model railroader channels. You can learn a lot from those folks and even learn techniques that they have been doing for decades. Techniques that should have been a thing long ago in this hobby.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
I, like you, started as a scale modeller back in the 80s so brought much of the concepts over. I think miniature painters got used to quick drying acrylics. There’s are a few things I didn’t continue as we scale modellers don’t tend to touch a model after it’s finished so anything that could rub off got dropped.
@brionl4741
@brionl4741 2 ай бұрын
I've always said that model railroading and mini wargaming are basically the same hobby. You push your little guys around the board and either go "Choo Choo" or "Pew Pew".
@anotherbrickinthegrey
@anotherbrickinthegrey 2 ай бұрын
Aaaand FINALLY a miniature painting video that actually gets into colour theory properly!! Added super-bonus is someone who actually understands that shadows are not black! Loved every second of this video, +1 new subscriber :)
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Thank you. You know I never thought saying “shadows aren’t black” would be so controversial. I mean we all have eyes. We can literally look at them. 🤣🤣 but weirdly very few mini painters seem to reference the real world when painting. 🤷🏼‍♂️
@annihilationtextofficialca8941
@annihilationtextofficialca8941 2 ай бұрын
Awesome video. Thanks for the different perspective on priming. I am definitely one of those prime black always guys, lol. I have some new ideas now moving forward that might help me slay more gray a lot faster.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
I was the same. I used to get hella frustrated with how many coats I’d need over it though. Then when I was finished I was like “where’s the black gone!!”. 🤣🤣
@izaiahwoodfy8967
@izaiahwoodfy8967 9 күн бұрын
I've referred back to this video dozens of times in just the last couple days. Thank you so much for this 🙏🏽
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 8 күн бұрын
🤣 Don’t watch me too much. According to my wife I will get on your nerves after a short space of time! 👍🏼
@virrcraft
@virrcraft 2 ай бұрын
yay, new video! wow, this is so impressive to watch... and at the same time so difficult! my brain started racing 5 times while I was watching it all... and this despite the fact that I already knew a good 60 percent... but don’t get me wrong, it’s not about the presentation, it’s about the material! it’s quite complex (if you’re not in the know), but it’s presented just beautifully! color theory haunts me throughout my life, but I try to avoid it... apparently it has won after all. I need to sit down, figure it out and... hang circles with flowers around my work area
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
🤣 I tend to look at colour theory’s as A leads to B. So start with one colour and then work out the next. If I want my model to be say, green, I know I can use contrasting purple for shadows as well as dark green or blue because they sit side by side on the wheel.
@savage12k
@savage12k 2 ай бұрын
I don't paint miniatures. In fact, for the last 25-ish years I've avoided painting anything. Then a few days ago a mask i had bought that was irritating me with its lack of depth and contrast inspired me to break it my old brushes and...ahem... go buy some paint. Searched one drybrush technique, and now my feed is flooded with miniatures. This video caught my eye, and now I'm noticing everything I did wrong on that damn mask... I had completely forgotten over the last 2 decades that "Shadows aren't black." You've earned this sub, my good sir.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Thank you mate. I always appreciate it a bit more when someone who isn’t invested in the miniature topic takes time to say something nice. 👍🏼
@thecraftmasque
@thecraftmasque 2 ай бұрын
when slapchop first started gaining traction i though i would lose my mid shouting at the screen every time "BlAcK is A tErRiBle cHoicE fOr A baSe!" ... glad i dont have to do that anymore.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
I think it’s based on the old masters who used it for oil painting. But what is usually ignored is that they painted completely over it and only used it for a tonal guide.
@thecraftmasque
@thecraftmasque 2 ай бұрын
@@thestateofplay2023 you're probably right. It was a common issue in illustration too. There's a ton of photoshop tutorials out there that start with black and white tonal sketches and almost all of them end up with a muddy-looking final product.
@somhunt5446
@somhunt5446 6 күн бұрын
subbed, I neither game nor paint. The sake of learning and the banter are good too.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 6 күн бұрын
Well I thank you for your sun. Maybe there’ll be something to my madness that peaks your hobby curiosity. 😜
@jokenarts8312
@jokenarts8312 2 ай бұрын
Awesome hidden tip, using a Lego plate for a dry brush test! Very cool!
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
I actually have another video with that exact tip! The one about fidget popper pallettes. 👍🏼
@benrichard7938
@benrichard7938 2 ай бұрын
Ok this is amazing. I’ve been painting for 30 years and doing it semi competitively for like 20 and I STILL learned so much. I’ve waisted so much time needlessly glazing… great job man!
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the compliment mate. From a veteran hobbyist too!
@ElRammo
@ElRammo 2 ай бұрын
The quality of your videos is insane. Pivoted from KZbin on the console to my phone just to make sure you get the love you deserve. I follow a lot of other channels intermittently and your commentary making some of the colour theory feel relevant and accessible is just quality. You seem like an absolute pro!
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Thanks mate. I guess when you enjoy what you do, it helps to show others.
@ElRammo
@ElRammo 2 ай бұрын
@@thestateofplay2023 I fixed my comment to be clear I was just saying I watch a lot of other channels many will be familiar with, e.g. Goobertown, Dana Howl, Squidmar etc... They're great in their own ways, but I personally feel like when it comes to explaining "art" concepts you have your own niche which will benefit a lot of folks. Just another comment for the algo, nothing to see here 👀
@korvusfilms1
@korvusfilms1 2 ай бұрын
As someone just getting into the mini painting hobby, and seeing scores of videos, this is one of the most fantastic tutorials that I've ever seen, a perfect mix of color theory and implementation practices, plus even humor to keep it entertaining. Thank you for making this! Subbed and will check out your other videos.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Thanks for saying mate!
@ThorekIronbrow
@ThorekIronbrow 2 ай бұрын
Top notch video. Lacquer toxicity, speckly rattlecan zenithals, black spray being the wrong choice for most colours are all things people need to hear. The one thing I'm dying for a good video on is primer durability. Consensus seems to be airbrush primer is far less durable than rattlecan and lacquers so the convenience doesn't feel like a good trade for gaming pieces. Are the molotow acrylics special in any way that makes them suitable as priming? The airbrush primers tend to be acrylic-polyurethane mixes (which assume makes them more hard-wearing) rather than just pure acrylic.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
You don’t need primer. Primer is a myth. I’ve got unprimed models from 38 years ago with no varnish that look the same today as they did when I was 10. Most modern acrylic is tough enough to just stay where you put it. Molotow are graffiti acrylics. Designed to work on walls outdoors in all weather.
@Dakarum481
@Dakarum481 2 ай бұрын
Subscribed. Love the way you explain things and your humor. Definitely kept me engaged and you seem like a cool dude. Keep up the great work.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
🤣🤣Thanks! Next time I have a job interview you can be my reference! 😜
@fraserskomorowski2311
@fraserskomorowski2311 2 ай бұрын
The various quips were priceless...white lines, lol 🤣
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Ah you’ve worked in 90s advertising too. Nuff said!
@Clatakesalook
@Clatakesalook Ай бұрын
this guy is a riot !
@davidhills7986
@davidhills7986 2 ай бұрын
Quick note for Vallejo airbrush primer. It works way better if you think it with the tamiya x20a thinner. Polyurethane reacts with water.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
This is where I totally slap my brow and why didn’t I think of that!! It’s not like I don’t have the damn ingredients!! Thank you. Now I can use it up.
@davidhills7986
@davidhills7986 2 ай бұрын
@@thestateofplay2023 it was one of those oh crap moments when I accidentally put the thinner in without thinking as I also use xf2 for white. That stuff is magic. I saw it didn't do anything funny instantly and thought I'll try spray that and wow what a difference. No clogs smooth coverage so now I can use my German panzer grey primer again.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
I tried it once with some citadel and got a weird thick soup. I’ll give it another go.
@davidhills7986
@davidhills7986 2 ай бұрын
@@thestateofplay2023 Vallejo primer it works perfectly. I've not tried other paints though.
@typicalneet
@typicalneet 2 ай бұрын
I know this comments a bit old, but what ratio? 1:1? I’ll have to give it a shot, even if I haven’t had that many issues with Vallejo
@Out-to-Pastor
@Out-to-Pastor 15 күн бұрын
I genuinely thought I knew how to prime. Now I have such a better understanding of what I'm doing right and what I'm mostly getting wrong. Thank you, I am definitely going to come back to this for reference.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 14 күн бұрын
Glad it could help you out!
@richardlynch77
@richardlynch77 2 ай бұрын
Ah. Prime Day. I see what you did there. Great video as always!
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
I just realised that after I uploaded it as I got the email from Amazon! Not intentional but hey, if it gets a few more views…🤣🤣
@ThrehaneMiniatures
@ThrehaneMiniatures 2 ай бұрын
Top notch observation! I can't believe I missed that!
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
I can’t believe I missed that! On Amazon now….hmm, some good deals. And some that are just flat out lies with the same price as before. 😳
@richardlynch77
@richardlynch77 2 ай бұрын
@@thestateofplay2023 I had 12 or so things in my basket, most with no change. But two clear acrylic display stands and Anycubic water washable resin both 20% discounted - I got those. Only so I have more minis to print and display coated in a black primer ;)
@joejo4549
@joejo4549 18 күн бұрын
Really good video for someone new to painting
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 17 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@dan_zehner
@dan_zehner 2 ай бұрын
"Brush on primer is like Star Wars the Acolyte." You sir, are the hero this hour needs.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Ah not according to some comments but hey, I stand by my opinions. 👍🏼
@lcmiracle
@lcmiracle 2 ай бұрын
@@thestateofplay2023 Who are these shills? Point them to me.
@maciejs.5094
@maciejs.5094 Ай бұрын
​@@lcmiracle I am one of them, what are you gonna do bout it bud? Hate me for liking the show more than the ungodly trilogy?
@rungunninja1289
@rungunninja1289 Ай бұрын
The only brush on prime that works is Vallejo black. Even then it still has a few problems every now and again.
@mortendahl4824
@mortendahl4824 2 ай бұрын
Amazing! You made this all sensible, so many content creators have failed where you succeeded. So glad I found this. Now, I paint on with renewed vigor :)
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Brilliant news! So glad it didn’t confuse people!
@NegativeNezzy
@NegativeNezzy 2 ай бұрын
I lost it at "a little bit like the acolyte" lmfao. My loves are intersecting.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Gotta get those cultural references in somehow. 🤣🤣
@nozero1
@nozero1 2 ай бұрын
@@thestateofplay2023 I didn't think it was a good idea, it kind of loses anyone who does like the show.
@Fbs...
@Fbs... 2 ай бұрын
C'mon, really??? If you're so fanboy and insecure not to watch the channel just because Will tells you the truth... you don't belong here (and I mean ON THE INTERNET)! They should grow up and open their eyes. Start to see when politics poison a TV show. Learn what makes a decent story and what makes a character interesting! In short, learn to judge a product objectively...🧐
@nozero1
@nozero1 2 ай бұрын
@@Fbs... I didn't say that, I said that his point loses fans of the show. That's because if you like the show it doesn't any sense
@Fbs...
@Fbs... 2 ай бұрын
@@nozero1 I'm saying that he shouldn't care! 'Cause if they DON'T UNDERSTAND MOVIES AND TV SHOWS and they're willing to make a fuss over every little thing they disagree with (even JOKES!), then it's better for Will to lose them! Many channels have been ruined by these people with no taste nor culture.
@keggers5483
@keggers5483 Ай бұрын
I initially dismissed the title as clickbait, but it's absolutely accurate. Fantastic advice, thank you!
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Thanks. Yeah I try to completely avoid anything clickbait as I hate that myself!
@The1Flying
@The1Flying 2 ай бұрын
Cracking video as always.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Cheers Scott!
@Prometheus_Williams
@Prometheus_Williams 2 ай бұрын
Easily the most informative hobby channel ever created.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
I dunno. Bob Ross is pretty good. 🤣
@darthkek1953
@darthkek1953 2 ай бұрын
Vince Venturella dies a little inside when you say that but SOP has fantastic colour theory. VV has elements of colour theory (and he goes through colours individually) but SOP is way head for integrated colour theory.
@Liopot68
@Liopot68 2 ай бұрын
and we say: "thank you, Marco Frisoni!"
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
We do indeed! Same art background as me I think. Using fine art techniques in mini painting.
@geoffscammell145
@geoffscammell145 2 ай бұрын
Like so many things I found your video at the perfect time. For the last 6 months I have been building kits, and buying a few different primers, waiting for it to get warmer and me to finish my indoor spray booth. Not only did I get the most in-depth lesson on priming. Yet there was so much more about beauty of mixing colours right from the very beginning, before even essentially buying any paint. The timing could of not been more perfect, and presented in such a beautiful and insightful way. Thank you so much
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the compliment mate, I’m so glad it’ll help you out
@mattyno964
@mattyno964 2 ай бұрын
I used to brush prime everything black. I also used to hate painting.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Do you like painting now? I assume you changed from black to something else?
@zakphillips2287
@zakphillips2287 2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. Your intricately detailed explanations have helped me understand painting concepts I've struggled with for a while. Definitely earned my sub, looking forward to more videos like this!
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@jameswilloughby4381
@jameswilloughby4381 2 ай бұрын
How this only got 14 likes! Come on guys this guys a top lad
@ThorekIronbrow
@ThorekIronbrow 2 ай бұрын
It's a 26 minute video and it's only been up 25 minutes!
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Haha! Thanks, but give it time. I reckon people might be at work. I know I am. 😜
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Yeah and after taking 36 days to make this to spray over a 1000 models I didn’t expect any KZbin love from the algorithm. 😜🤣
@mn01_
@mn01_ 2 ай бұрын
@@ThorekIronbrow 😂😂😂
@ElRammo
@ElRammo 2 ай бұрын
I’m not sure why but typing in “state of play” I didn’t even get you in my top results. It’s possible your channel name doesn’t help KZbin/googles string matching due to the terms being so common. That said, I do have confidence you will grow exponentially due to the sheer quality of your work.
@naib_stilgar
@naib_stilgar 2 ай бұрын
This is one of the best painting videos on YT right now, grats.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Thanks mate!
@Meglin1461
@Meglin1461 2 ай бұрын
Please don't use normal rattle can paint. It has WAY more texture than specialised rattle can primer. The pigment isn't nearly as fine. And when you're painting something so small, you don't want large pigments. Obviously there is a place in this hobby for normal rattle can paint. But tiny models aren't it
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
👍🏼
@giantninja9173
@giantninja9173 2 ай бұрын
So any model larger than an old scale space marine? A $5 can is still preferable to a $20 can for priming tanks if the difference is only noticeable if held at eye level under beginner level paint jobs
@Meglin1461
@Meglin1461 2 ай бұрын
@giantninja9173 anything with small details I wouldn't use a normal rattle can primer on. Clogs them up.
@JERRYR708
@JERRYR708 2 ай бұрын
Used Army Painter white primer today for 1st time and never going back to regular primer.
@marcbowling6451
@marcbowling6451 2 ай бұрын
​@Meglin1461 out of curiosity have you ever had this issue or are you just repeating internet echo chamber wisdom?
@AzraelThanatos
@AzraelThanatos 2 күн бұрын
Just as a major note, there is still a good use for a black prime. If you're going to be using a lot of true metallic paints, black works really well for that. A lot of heavily armored figures or vehicles being major ones there. Most of my current major projects are more of just a grey primer there because it works well for different things tied into it, and works decently with a mix of metals and non-metals for aimed results.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 күн бұрын
Yes, you are absolutely correct. I guess I just want people to be aware that there are options. Don’t always immediately reach for the black. 😜👍🏼
@AdamWhitehead111
@AdamWhitehead111 2 ай бұрын
11:44 yes, because that money is definitely not going to be spent on more tiny plastic men...
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Well yes. Of course, but you don’t say THAT straight away….🤣🤣🤣
@AetherMindrex
@AetherMindrex Ай бұрын
Fantastic! Thank you for the great video. I recently picked up my models again after 20 yrs. I was thinking about a lot of these very ideas. I have still been doing art just not painting the minis. This confirmed and also gave me a lot of ideas.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 29 күн бұрын
Brilliant. Glad it was a jumping off point for you! Enjoy your models!!
@scottboyer8450
@scottboyer8450 14 күн бұрын
A large Lego baseplate as a dry bush palate is absolutely brilliant!
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 14 күн бұрын
A product of pure laziness and theft from my kids - I assure you. 🤣
@svensvensson2724
@svensvensson2724 25 күн бұрын
This video made me subscribe. I normally never sub to mini channels. This is my first. I've been trying to tell people you need vibrant colours under your slap slop, but nobody listens. Every other mini channel fall into the black and white trap, making grayish garbage. Hopefully you've got enough influence to stop the insanity.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 25 күн бұрын
Yes, I hope that too. All these colours and slapchop is still black and white!! It makes no sense.
@Ilikeridin
@Ilikeridin Ай бұрын
Amazing video. I learnt so much and enjoyed watching as a whole. So much I don’t know about colour theory. New to the channel alsi, subscribed.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Glad to have you here thanks!
@c17bykenshi67
@c17bykenshi67 7 күн бұрын
i just bought my first spray can, i think you saved me from a future of spray cans
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 7 күн бұрын
Ah yes, they cost a load, don’t last long, tire your arm in a non fun way, spray out poisonous gas that apparently kills the environment and you’re not really allowed to just put them in the trash. 🤣😜
@WizardySyrusbloodfire
@WizardySyrusbloodfire 25 күн бұрын
Thank you for making this video! I'm new to mini painting and this video is a WEALTH of knowledge.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 24 күн бұрын
You are so welcome!
@alexandrefernandes6286
@alexandrefernandes6286 Ай бұрын
This video is a gem! Thank you so much for this! I came for a video on priming and I ended up with a proper masterclass on colour theory . The coloured primed slapchop is the way to go
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 29 күн бұрын
Glad it helped. So many people have gone in different directions from this video I’m so happy it informed!! 👍🏼
@ecarlate
@ecarlate 2 ай бұрын
i just discovered your channel, and thank you for all the advice, going to save me time for my pile of shame.... 40 years of collectionning and no time to paint, i think i have enough until the end of my life lol
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
You and me both matey!! 👍🏼 I’m determined to get through all of it just so my kids can trash it all when I’m gone. 🤣🤣🤣
@ecarlate
@ecarlate Ай бұрын
@@thestateofplay2023 yeah i'm trying to do the same, finished my new work/pain table to start working. lucky me (or not lol), my son is playing too lmao
@jh8111
@jh8111 25 күн бұрын
This guys fantastic, and the interactions with the comments section are great too.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 25 күн бұрын
That’s because I read every comment because if people take the time to write - then I should take the time to….sorry, what was I saying? I bored myself to sleep. 🤣
@MrSquidshark
@MrSquidshark 2 ай бұрын
This is a 10/10 video that I'll be coming back to again and again I'm sure.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Thank you. I guess I’ll see you again! 😜
@billdefranza4927
@billdefranza4927 Ай бұрын
This video is excellent on so many levels. Thank you!
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@alanmorales5784
@alanmorales5784 6 күн бұрын
Great video man! I like your multi color priming idea
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 5 күн бұрын
Thanks mate! Much appreciated
@Gryffyth_Aurum
@Gryffyth_Aurum 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for your guidance, wisdom, and knowledge.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Glad it helped
@GingerGiant247
@GingerGiant247 2 ай бұрын
State of Play is a new favorite hobby channel now. I love the color theory, and I hadn't considered the orientation of the color wheel for 'movement' of color. This is awesome.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Yeah it’s weird that a simple lock of a colour wheel in place can change colour progression. I “lock” yellow at the top if zenithaling up to white. But often lock a shadow at the bottom. Or a different colour at the top depending on what I’m going for.
@Silvergum
@Silvergum 22 күн бұрын
I'm new to the hobby and given that I'm 3d printing, I just grabbed grey seer for maximum versatility. been working well for traditional base coating, only needs a maximum of 2 thin coats
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 22 күн бұрын
Grey seer is a great spray. I prefer wraithbone for skin tones. 👍🏼
@DairyDuke
@DairyDuke 20 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video. I'll be referencing it and your channel a lot.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 19 күн бұрын
Brilliant! Thanks!
@user-cj5nk8jk4w
@user-cj5nk8jk4w 2 ай бұрын
Just found this channel. Great video! I will have to try some of these techinques and get some colours on my models. Hopefully, it gives me that drive to consistently paint again. I am guilty of doing the black primer. Most of my models are just primed black and i have to agree. Seeing them black vs. Grey does not give me any drive to paint them. Still feels daunting. Will check out other videos for sure!
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
🤣🤣 yup, black is the new grey. And no one paints that either.
@jasonkeogh8488
@jasonkeogh8488 21 күн бұрын
Great video. I've been doing grey scale slap chop and as soon as it was said it tends to come out "chalky" I was like... ohh that's me! I've been compensating with extra layers of contrast and final highlighting. I need an airbrush. Definitely gonna try learn some colour theory and try multi colour priming
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 21 күн бұрын
Yeah slapchop is nice a quick but not always the best looking end result. 👍🏼
@RonaldFulcrum
@RonaldFulcrum Ай бұрын
This video was very well presented, and very informative. Thank you.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@mmarchani
@mmarchani 2 ай бұрын
Worth it for the colored shadows alone! AMAZING work, man!!
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@joshmortimer3433
@joshmortimer3433 5 күн бұрын
really good video... and certainly gets me thinking.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 5 күн бұрын
That was the plan. If I can get even one person to think more about primer as colours I’ll be happy!
@joshmortimer3433
@joshmortimer3433 5 күн бұрын
@@thestateofplay2023 well you now have one convert.
@danielhall5554
@danielhall5554 2 ай бұрын
I will have to watch this a few more times. This is excellent work. I'm glad to see people returning to color theory and not just slopping on the paint. I am guilty of running straight to the white over black zenithal and getting very dissappointed.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Yeah I wondered what happened n KZbin. Just seems to be people painting the latest GW boxes thesedays. Like every single creator.
@MTGreborn
@MTGreborn 2 ай бұрын
A really useful video, thank you mate!
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@S.A.S.H.
@S.A.S.H. Ай бұрын
"...die of old age." As a 66 year-old gamer with a massive...pile of gray, (and that's not a description of my hair, though it certainly could be)...where was I? Oh yeah. I take the comment personally. As always great info delivered with wonderful humor and just a dash of tongue-in-cheek. Thanks....
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Glad you get the humour mate. I get so many comments from people who genuinely think I’m serious!
@S.A.S.H.
@S.A.S.H. Ай бұрын
@@thestateofplay2023 satire is not just a horny guy with goat hooves.
@BillyTheRealDeal
@BillyTheRealDeal 23 күн бұрын
Fantastic video - So much truth here. New to the hobby since 2020 and through trial and error coming to much of the same conclusions on priming. Now to get that airbrush.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 23 күн бұрын
Yeah I think I just help reinforce what many people don’t think out loud. I’m just louder about it. 😜🤣
@BillyTheRealDeal
@BillyTheRealDeal 23 күн бұрын
@@thestateofplay2023 Well keep shouting!! Lots of great stuff to unpack here.
@jesperrahlff3541
@jesperrahlff3541 22 күн бұрын
I am stuck with a question: when priming with a rattlecan, its mentioned spraypaint in different colors. Will any acrylic spraypaint do or does it have to say primer on the can? All I have been able to find in my local store was grey primer fir cars
@Dracoform
@Dracoform 2 ай бұрын
I always come back to your videos, because they give such great advice - be it color theory, airbrushing or even that awesome episode about books (like paper thingies...) thank you!
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Ah paper. That old man media. 🤣
@LarguijoteF
@LarguijoteF Ай бұрын
This was the best short video about the subject
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
There’s longer videos?!
@Misfit7021
@Misfit7021 2 ай бұрын
What a great tutorial on how to jump start my brain into painting.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
Glad it helped!
@davidto7112
@davidto7112 2 ай бұрын
This is such a great video! I'm glad it showed up on my feed. You just got yourself a new subscriber!
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Thanks David, much appreciated!
@ReclaimerMkII
@ReclaimerMkII 2 ай бұрын
This is great advice. I can see immense logic in this strategy.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Thanks mate!
@DrNitroGecko
@DrNitroGecko 2 ай бұрын
Yes, colourful priming has helped me a lot
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Awesome!
@pipwilson777
@pipwilson777 2 ай бұрын
Brilliant writing and presentation. Perfection.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Thank you !
@RamonRodgers
@RamonRodgers 8 күн бұрын
Right on time! And completely agree on Acolyte!!!!!!
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 8 күн бұрын
Great minds think alike!! 😜👍🏼
@jimwake1123
@jimwake1123 2 ай бұрын
This video was really helpfu thanks! I've understood the theory behind this for some time but putting it into practice has always seemed harder than I initially thought, this should defo put me on the right track though. I will be checking out those one 4 all paints too for my airbrush cheers!
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Jim!
@kevinkabal6598
@kevinkabal6598 2 ай бұрын
Excellent video! And still the best extro in the business! Loved your ink mixing video as well! Cheers Will!
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Hey Kevin. It is. Isn’t it. 🤣🤣
@firebot779
@firebot779 29 күн бұрын
I might give that satin varnish idea for speed paints. for awhile I kinda never know why my paint jobs were semi spotty in some areas, followed normal advice of trying not to pool to much, use the proper amount. Nothing worked, so I might give the varnish idea a shot and see how it works.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 28 күн бұрын
The satin won’t solve it completely but it’ll certainly help contrast flow better. But being honest, the best way it to thin contrast 50/50 with contrast medium and use two coats over that satin prime. 👍🏼
@StaticSilence1
@StaticSilence1 Ай бұрын
I learned to take advantage of my primer very early in my hobby beginnings. I built all my armies color schemes around the primer. It was one of the best decisions I ever made.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 Ай бұрын
It would appear you are steps ahead of many others! 👍🏼
@Bakroth85
@Bakroth85 2 ай бұрын
Another excellent introduction and advanced info video again. Thanks for the tips!
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
A pleasure as always!
@andreaarnold5613
@andreaarnold5613 2 ай бұрын
First time I've seen your videos. I'll be back!. Very informative, educational and a nice hint of comedy.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Thank you. Looking forward to having you back! 👍🏼
@TapCat
@TapCat 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for yet another video with excellent advice. I just recently dipped my toe in the water of color primer. I needed to paint 16 identical army troops and found a good camo green that both primed and served as the base coat for a large chunk of the minis. Also bought a dark blue primer to get a start on a similar lot of mobsters wearing dark suits. It was extremely helpful but this vfdeo opens up many more possibilities by adding a 2nd color to the mix. I'll definitely have to give that some thought even if my grasp of color theory isn't nearly as developed as yours.
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Good option here is to pick up a lighter version of the camo green. 👍🏼
@doctorpc4x4
@doctorpc4x4 2 ай бұрын
From primer to colour theory and contrasts. I don't paint these. I paint scale model trucks, BUT I sure as learnt one heck of a lot from this. You are a clever man
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
That’s where I started. Not trucks but spaceships. Trucks without wheels. 🤣🤣
@jonathankilby6636
@jonathankilby6636 2 ай бұрын
Great video. I adore montana sprays, so many colours available and I've done a dirty zenithal using them countless times
@thestateofplay2023
@thestateofplay2023 2 ай бұрын
Same here!
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