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Overcoming the Pain of Rejection | Episode 235 |

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Conversations with John & Lisa Bevere

Conversations with John & Lisa Bevere

Күн бұрын

Have you recently experienced rejection? Are you struggling to regain your footing after the disappointment?
Whether we experience it in our relationships, career, or beyond, the reality is we will all face rejection at many points in our lives.
The natural response to rejection usually involves feelings of anger, shame, and self-doubt. While these may be our initial reactions, we don't have to remain stuck in them. Rejection is painful, but rest assured: you can find the strength to rise above it!
In this episode, John and Lisa open up about their personal experiences with rejection and share powerful insights they learned as they persevered through these challenging times. You won’t want to miss this one!
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Chapters:
0:00 - Teaser
0:34 - Introduction
2:33 - Dealing With Rejection
4:03 - John’s Rejections
8:09 - Lisa’s Rejections
11:17 - This Is Where You Can Experience Rejection
13:13 - Common Responses to Rejection
22:37 - Closing Thoughts
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@gordonicus4637
@gordonicus4637 8 ай бұрын
Rejection may be redirection, but it still hurts... Deeply. We need to have a heart of forgiveness, so that the rejection can be healed, and not lead to bitterness, resentment and grudge holding...
@bujeeeeee
@bujeeeeee 7 ай бұрын
Yesss
@Liesha_xx
@Liesha_xx 8 ай бұрын
This message on rejection was so timely and so so so good! I’ve been struggling with unemployment as a graduate and facing rejection at every corner - after my most recent job rejection I was so angry at God, angry at the interviewers for giving me false hope and angry and doubtful of myself and that I’d ever be employed in the area I want. This morning I was feeling all of the common responses to rejection and felt so hopeless and overlooked and unseen by God. Now I know that this rejection is not a testament to who I am, but something that I just have to be patient through. God does see me and understands the pain rejection brings as He felt it himself. I’m going to go back into scripture and look at situations where God responded to people experiencing rejection and how He got them through. Thank you so much for this message, I hope there’s a part two!!
@awesomemax3330
@awesomemax3330 8 ай бұрын
Amazing to look back into scripture and see how God helped others respond to rejection.
@gowx
@gowx 8 ай бұрын
Praying 🙏🏾
@gastroliciousgelayski8584
@gastroliciousgelayski8584 8 ай бұрын
Praying for both of us and for those who have been facing rejection. Our GOD is faithful. He keeps His Promises. In His Perfect time.
@gison8405
@gison8405 7 ай бұрын
AMEN ​@gastroliciousgelayski8584
@BelovedOfGod15
@BelovedOfGod15 Ай бұрын
I am dealing with this too but I am hoping on God
@marybenoit6375
@marybenoit6375 2 ай бұрын
The Bait of Satan is one of the best books out in the world today.🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
@sherhein7168
@sherhein7168 23 күн бұрын
It is a MUST read!
@duruuju9660
@duruuju9660 8 ай бұрын
I just faced a rejection from my husband..which was tending towards offense in my Heart... But this message just diffused the offense and released peace inside of me ... God bless you...
@lauramay2331
@lauramay2331 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this podcast. My heart has been deeply broken. I was fired earlier this week after I wrote a letter to the CEO of our company addressing some work place concerns. Part of the pain my manager didn't stand up for me, he's also the associate pastor of my church. The heartache too is that there were false allegations made against me. My part is yes I did make some mistakes, owned my mistakes but there was no grace. I've been alone with God. I'm also so very grateful you talked about isolation. I'm fighting that. I'm trusting in God, and working through the pain.
@lexie1on1
@lexie1on1 8 ай бұрын
I recently experienced something similar. God will have the final say.
@jennygrim2057
@jennygrim2057 2 ай бұрын
God bless and comfort you! ❤
@inno4876
@inno4876 7 ай бұрын
When you are rejected by a man of God, it doesnt mean you are rejected by God. Wow!!! True
@pamelasurratt9479
@pamelasurratt9479 8 ай бұрын
When you said "rejection can happen even when you are being obedient"...wow! My heart ❤️ squeezed by Holy Spirit confirmation! My marriage fell apart 5yrs ago! Such a heart wrenching 💔 feeling of rejection! The Lord showed me Proverbs 7 one Sunday 🙏 and told me to stand in the gap, praying for my wayward husband (through his affair & divorce). Isolated himself...only spending time with the OW. It's been so painful to wait on the Lord, stay obedient & keep hope alive. 🙏 Spiritual Battle for souls & generations.
@nia5128
@nia5128 8 ай бұрын
I have isolated myself...I tried my best...I was rejected in womb, my mum hated me, my brothers turned against me, I was slandered out of my home when I showed Faith, church didn’t check on me, people never understood me but judged me...I just don’t want to get hurt anymore by people. I had leaders dismiss my feelings, leaders put me down, family say I’m dead to them...a person can only take so much!
@nia5128
@nia5128 8 ай бұрын
Do we have to go back to the people that hurt me? I’m so tired of it.
@nia5128
@nia5128 8 ай бұрын
Fiancé rejected me. It just keeps happening.
@cherylboyd7081
@cherylboyd7081 7 ай бұрын
​@@nia5128 God loves you and will never leave you or forsake you. Strengthen your relationship with God and lean on him for companionship. Forgive the people who have rejected you and pray about where to fellowship. Leave the family relationships to God and be open to his guidance concerning them. Pray for your family, bless them in prayer and if given the opportunity. Maybe consider deliverance prayer and prayer for healing. God is a God of restoration and all his promises are for you. Don't give up. Romans 8 v 28
@r.c.j.139
@r.c.j.139 4 ай бұрын
I have faced rejection at every turn my whole life as well. I think it’s not necessarily bad to isolate yourself for the purpose of resting in the Lord and having plenty of quiet time with Him so He can do deep healing. But isolating out of fear of more rejection is where it gets tricky. I have done both and it’s easier to hide, it feels safe, but that’s what the enemy wants cus then he can play with your hurts and your mind etc. I’ve learned that the hard way many time. The Lord showed me He has me in a season of healing and resting. And it is harder than hiding because I have had to relive a lot of painful things and then in the midst of feeling that pain had to forgive the people who caused that wound -most of which are not even sorry. But it IS worth it. I’ve cried many tears in my prayer closet in this season and feel like it’s not even halfway through the remaining wounds. But again it is worth it. Maybe the Lord wants to see to your wounds right now as well. Maybe that’s what you meant by isolating, and He’s actually calling you to let Him touch those painful places so He can heal and mend them. What ever the case I really do relate and I pray the Lord will continue to help us both heal from constant rejection and help us focus on His constant acceptance. Some days that’s all I can do to keep going, is remember there’s at least 1 that’s never rejected me, even when I’ve rejected Him. ❤🙏 Also want to add that I don’t think complete isolation is ever a good idea even if you spend that time with the Lord. I would isolate from the most hurtful people for sure though, just for the sake of space and not having new wounds creating as ur healing the old ones.
@JoyOfTheLORD.
@JoyOfTheLORD. 2 ай бұрын
This is a hard one. Reminds me of how Joseph was rejected and persecuted, even betrayed by his own brothers. It’s so intense and i get it. Sometimes we have to ask the LORD “what are you showing me” or “what is the root of this cycle”. Not to speculate either, but it could be a generational thing or a spirit of rejection. Just keep going to God and ask Him to help you release any feelings of resentment or frustration towards anyone. The feeling of not receiving justice is something that can trigger rejection and unforgiveness as well. I hope this helps and may the LORD heal you deeply, even in your soul. Gby
@shanaparrilla978
@shanaparrilla978 9 күн бұрын
Gorgeous timing I’m grateful I’ve been rejected by so many people especially from churches . I don’t want to go back to the current church that has hurt me but I’m tired of running but I don’t know how to process the pain.
@RobbyWilliams-zw6qe
@RobbyWilliams-zw6qe 3 ай бұрын
Thank you very much. I have been rejected so much that I preferred to be a hermit for 20yrs. I hated everyone, then I was arrested on an old warrant. And God brought me back to a Christian based sober living program, and I have noticed the love for people is starting to grow in me once again. "NEVER STOP OBEYING GOD" I love ya'll & may God continue to bless ya'll & your family.
@debstrunk892
@debstrunk892 8 ай бұрын
This was excellent dialogue. Need to do more on rejection. We have a national epidemic with us not being educated or learned on how to handle rejection healthy and godlike. Please do more episodic messages on this. We need it!!!! You rock!!!
@ligaozolina9847
@ligaozolina9847 8 ай бұрын
i would like to add that it is global epidemic
@debstrunk892
@debstrunk892 8 ай бұрын
@@ligaozolina9847 I was going to say that yes correct
@esthernail3810
@esthernail3810 8 ай бұрын
I’ve been reading your books and watching a lot of your videos… The very first foolish thing I’ve ever heard John Bevere say is.. People being rejected because of the race. (don’t buy into the globalist agenda about divide and conquer) I’m a female Hispanic, native, part black women who was raised in the south - I never experienced any racism in my almost 60 years of life . I never even really thought about the color of anyones skin - until Obama ! (Who started pushing the Globus agenda) please never give it any more fuel . The truth is we all came from Adam and eve and then later Noah… 🙏🏽 love & blessings to you both ♥️♥️
@elisaverga9679
@elisaverga9679 8 ай бұрын
Rejection can cause so much harm ti our lives. Thank you for addressing this topic and helping us to become free and heald
@morethanaconqueror777
@morethanaconqueror777 8 ай бұрын
Very good. Ive experienced rejection by mother saying she wished i never been born. Bullied by schoolmates when i was young. Sexual abuse by neighbors. Verbal abuse, emotional abuse, some physical abuse by parents. I was a loner and introverted to adulthood, isolation even now. I love the Lord very much and still a work in progress. Just need to mention, please do not speak over one another, its hard to understand whats being said. Thank you so much. God uses both of you well.
@florianstuven4053
@florianstuven4053 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for pointing out that rejection is not always redirection. It may be simply us reaping what we've sown. Not only is it a good insight - I am touched by your willingness to speak uncomfortable truths. I appreciate your sincerity, love and balance.
@100HOLYGHOST
@100HOLYGHOST 8 ай бұрын
Yes! Part 2 is in order. So good!!
@tramseyplanter2
@tramseyplanter2 8 ай бұрын
I agree ! Need part 2
@MLopez836
@MLopez836 8 ай бұрын
I relate with you Lisa on being rejected by both parents.. but God is good and takes everything and turns it for his glory!
@carolinaorbegozo9966
@carolinaorbegozo9966 8 ай бұрын
Hello, my husband and I are learning a lot from God trough you... We are from Colombia 🇨🇴 and God revealed to us that we have this struggle with rejection. Is so nice to see you teaching together, your conversations and your love are so genuine, God bless you!!!🎉
@Biker0486
@Biker0486 8 ай бұрын
Will be married 60 yrs in 1-18-24. What a job. Been filled with the Holy Spirit 49 yr this last thanksgiving. But this ride with God has been exciting, different and a lot of unknowns. God Bless, Ron and Brenda
@haileyogilvie7932
@haileyogilvie7932 8 ай бұрын
God used your message to open my eyes to a lot of things. I realized that I was starting to isolate myself just by thinking about it. I am so thankful that I heard this before I pulled away from people who can give me sound advice.
@freshwaterinkministries6317
@freshwaterinkministries6317 8 ай бұрын
Thank you both so much for your obedience and focus to the advancement of the gospel in a winsome and effective manner. We need true discipleship. You two offer that, thank you.
@CounselorForYou
@CounselorForYou 29 күн бұрын
John I dreamt about you and felt you were going thru something. I've been praying for protection and power to get through it.
@sheilawilson3799
@sheilawilson3799 8 ай бұрын
Great topic!! Tk you so much as a Christian I hv struggled with rejection most of my life. This was very helpful!!
@godwins3598
@godwins3598 8 ай бұрын
Love Lisa's interruptions she always zaps in an essential golden nugget aspect that is essential. Love this love this!! A Friend sent me this. Thank you I needed this 👏
@zhaomengling
@zhaomengling 8 ай бұрын
I am recently facing a separation from my partner of 5 years that is sudden and unexpected. The feeling of rejection and abandonment are definitely overwhelming, and i know the enemy is exploiting this opportunity for me to believe that "i do not deserve to be loved". I would love to listen more about how to deal with these moments of feeling rejected and the underlying lies! Thank you!
@poornimak-cy9gs
@poornimak-cy9gs 8 ай бұрын
Oh same girl my boyfriend of four years suddenly ended things and it was very much unexpected... it's heartbreaking tbh
@lifewithawi
@lifewithawi 6 ай бұрын
I enjoyed this so much, I love how God speaks through both of you. Please never stop. Your gift is needed ❤
@judythebus1029
@judythebus1029 8 ай бұрын
Hello Lisa and John🌻 I hope you read this. A good listen. I'm happy to hear you will be doing a part 2 on this. The obedient part stood out for me. I'm currently facing rejection because of a mistake I made 18 years ago. So finding employment has been tough. Having an 11 year old to also be responsible for adds. Having no one to support us financially. Praying. Selling everything yo just put food on the table has been wild these past two months. People have been silent and so has God. I haven't been obedient. I've flipped on both my parents as they feel I've embarrassed the family with the divorce and stupid mistake I made to not disclose what I did 18 years ago to a company. Anyways. Going to continue reading "without rival" and my bible as that has brought comfort & clarity in the midst of the chaos in my head.
@user-mv4cd1wq1k
@user-mv4cd1wq1k 5 ай бұрын
There is much scripture about rejection and offense, but one of my favourites on how to deal with it is Genesis 15:1 "After these things the word of the LORD came unto Abram in a vision, saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward." You see, until I learned this specific lesson, the rejection I felt from my [born again] wife for telling her what the Lord was laying on my heart as a new direction for the family was very confusing. But I believe God was impressing on me Matthew 10:37 "'He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me." In December, I heard God tell me this specific verse in what felt like an audible voice. I knew the verse, but not the specific reference at the time He spoke to me. It was near the culmination of a lesson He had been trying to teach me since the summer: it is better to obey God than to obey man, and He shall have no other gods before Him, even loved ones. It's been tough, but so worth it. By faith and endurance shall you inherit the promise (Hebrews 6:12). Whoever sees this, if you're born again, know that God never leaves you or forsakes you.
@hueyjoseph4526
@hueyjoseph4526 7 ай бұрын
Awesome Word ! Bro. John & Lisa 🙂🙂
@neilfullwood798
@neilfullwood798 8 ай бұрын
I needed to hear this. I'm experiencing church hurt
@nokukatom
@nokukatom 7 ай бұрын
Isolation 😢. I'm in isolation right now as I'm experiencing rejection. Help Lord
@jennygrim2057
@jennygrim2057 2 ай бұрын
Bless you 😂❤
@Mailifeisasong
@Mailifeisasong Ай бұрын
In the name and power of the blood of Jesus may favor, grace, mercy, encouragement, and wisdom bless your comfort in this season.
@nicholasbaker3183
@nicholasbaker3183 8 ай бұрын
Thanks John for this message. I know that feeling. Because God has exposed everything to me about my ex. I'm glad that He has showed me the rejection from my ex and her family.
@smithavos898
@smithavos898 8 ай бұрын
Dear John and Lisa, Greetings from Nairobi, Kenya. I have thoroughly enjoyed listening to all the nuggets you have been sharing from life experiences and from your walk with Jesus. Thank you for stirring us up to good works and encouraging us in allowing Jesus to transform our lives.
@sharonfranks2579
@sharonfranks2579 8 ай бұрын
❤ thank you for this! I was so upset with my husband just last night and went to bed mad and woke up mad and I told the lord this morning that I couldn’t even hear the Holy Spirit speaking because I was so mad lol but then I heard the words “your upset because you were rejected” (I was trying to help him with something he was complaining about)… so then I said to the Lord “well what do I do about it!?”… then this literally shows up on my phone! Thank you again and I’m listening again and taking notes!♥️♥️
@rebeccadiaz4606
@rebeccadiaz4606 4 ай бұрын
Amazing!! Just this short conversation brought so much healing as someone who has dealt with rejection on an emotional level throughout my life. God bless you.
@gwenoroark9464
@gwenoroark9464 8 ай бұрын
Wow!!! I just learned how my husband went down the depression road. Wow! WE had a heck of a year and we are stronger for it. Thank you for this. I'm looking forward to part 2.
@amax3505
@amax3505 2 ай бұрын
I can’t believe that each of your stories were quite resounding. I have written 2 books and I do not know why they have not moved. Then financially, I’m a Professional, but I’m in a very strange place in terms of jobs and placements very strange place and finishing up a doctoral degree, but yet needing finances to do other things and doors are opening very slowly ; or they’re opening with things that I’m not able to use so the rejection is real and then the whole thing about a mother’s rejection..that’s another long story by itself. I appreciate this podcast and I believe that this is the beginning process of my healing that I thought I’ve laid on the altar long time ago. Thank you for your candidness.
@carlajohnson3762
@carlajohnson3762 8 ай бұрын
I just went through this and the Lord is helping me by saying where does your hope lay? And I had to repent that my hope is not in people or provision. He is my hope! Amen
@sunnygeorgegwanpua5438
@sunnygeorgegwanpua5438 8 ай бұрын
I just found a new favourite podcast! So inspiring! I am just walking my way through past episodes, just soaking in. Thanks John and Lisa, you two are one of my favourite preachers! I love your writings, thank God the rejections didn't stop you from pushing through with the ministry God has for you! Millions, including myself, are being blessed every day by your books and teachings. God bless you
@yemifalayajo5264
@yemifalayajo5264 6 ай бұрын
Lies, dont stand the test of time ... truth stands the test of time. Amen!
@CathyJewellMusic
@CathyJewellMusic 7 ай бұрын
I love your individual messages but you two together are beautiful. Please continue to do these. I appreciate your transparency and honesty and your love for the Lord.
@zorayastar
@zorayastar 8 ай бұрын
What a powerful conversation on this topic. It ministered to areas the Lord brought up that I haven’t dealt with and buried. I’m hoping for a part two and maybe a book 😁. The Bait of Satan is the most anointed book, besides the Bible of course, that I have ever read. It supernaturally helped me overcome many offenses. ❤❤
@betzaidafigueroa9046
@betzaidafigueroa9046 2 ай бұрын
You both need to be in agreement more in conversation. Because interruptions of both trying to talk is too much. You both have a lot to give, work with that, give each other time to express yourselves 🙂 overall thank you for sharing such one of many struggles we go through. It’s a blessing.
@rkdu25
@rkdu25 7 ай бұрын
I had this happen this past week. I have been praying for the baptism of the Holy Spirit and every day it doesn’t come I get so discouraged and feel frustrated and rejected and the enemy used it to get me in a state of isolation.
@dominiquealexandria5343
@dominiquealexandria5343 8 ай бұрын
Part 2 needed on rejection please!
@aracellymego8804
@aracellymego8804 Ай бұрын
I love listening to your programms , they are very eye opener. Thank you
@germasehloho9610
@germasehloho9610 8 ай бұрын
I want to hear you talk on being rejected by your spouse for over 11 years.
@popper3177
@popper3177 6 ай бұрын
John and Lisa, this podcasts has again been another tool of direction for me. May God continue to bless your family and ministry as you faithfully serve Him .
@ParceSoyGabo
@ParceSoyGabo 6 ай бұрын
This is the second episode I heard from this podcast, completely by KZbin recommendation and It did not disappointed me at all. Thanks for talking about God whilst talking about daily situations. God bless you!
@marialivengood3235
@marialivengood3235 7 ай бұрын
I want to start off by saying PRAISE THE ALL MIGHTY GOD. Thank you, John and Lisa, for this podcast and ministry. Both of you have had an extremely powerful influence in my life. As a young mom to 3 little ones and one more on the way, I need that encouragement that you both give. Some days, I will pray and ask God to show me what I need to do differently, and then I come across your podcast, and it's just fire. Exactly what my heart, mind, and soul needed to hear. May the Lord bless this ministry. You both are truly anointed.
@JESUSCHRISTMYSAVIOR
@JESUSCHRISTMYSAVIOR 8 ай бұрын
Yes I Agree!! He knows how to give messages and break it down for me!! I'm always being wowed at the end of every message. I get it ❤
@crystallassley2241
@crystallassley2241 6 ай бұрын
Thank you John and Lisa for the wonderful message each episode. Definitely will like every video and help get the message out!
@ccp22
@ccp22 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for spreading the truth of God. Its very much needed here and appreciated. ❤❤ God bless you.
@MinisterChanciMiller
@MinisterChanciMiller 7 ай бұрын
I'm the face of rejection, you have to commit your soul unto God‼️‼️‼️THAT IS THE WORD I NEEDED TO HEAR RIGHT THERE‼️‼️‼️
@naomiverstraeten172
@naomiverstraeten172 6 ай бұрын
Thank you John and Lisa for this amazing heartfelt message! I was recently rejected by something that I thought that God asked me to do and that i had trusted His guidance in. But I still expierenced that I had failed to bring it to a good end. So i felt rejection from others but also rejected my self in this. I felt rejection from God in letting me down and not giving me “wisdom” to speak in what i thought He would do. Thank you for sharing your experiences of the rejections you both faces and how God works through the confusion to make His will known, and that nothing is lost in His hands. He can make something good out what we (or other people) thought was a failure…
@lukemorgan7597
@lukemorgan7597 6 ай бұрын
This for me was a timely message. Most of what Lisa said resonated with me. Its definitely a message i would want to listen to more than once. 😊
@Psalm22v6
@Psalm22v6 8 ай бұрын
This is a very important and timely message, thank you. I just wanted to raise a point about the isolation response to rejection. I know of a Christian group that has rejected many genuine believers over the years (shunning and excommunication), either because they had concerns or questions about some of the group’s doctrines and practices, or simply because they didn’t fit in with the culture. In this case, isolation wasn’t their own response or initiative to the rejection, but instead it was forced onto them by the leaders. I believe the end result is the same (wandering and torment) but the cause is slightly different. I just wanted to bring this up for the rare sake of someone that might be in a similar situation and feels condemned for isolating themselves despite the fact that they were actually forced to do it. In any case I think forgiveness is a key to being set free from the torment of isolation. 🙏
@moniqueveal3027
@moniqueveal3027 7 ай бұрын
I love you John and Lisa. You have helped me for years and I love you both from my heart and thank God for you and all of the transparent testimonies you have shared with us throughout the years. I need to read the Bait of Satan again. Thanks for your faithfulness to God and the body of Christ for years. Please pray for me and my family to find the church that God ordained for us to be a part of and that God will block the enemy involvement of deception and Satanic attacks in this crucial decision. Pray for our healing of rejection from any human being both living and dead that has brought us deep pain in our heart and soul from childhood and throughout our lives into adulthood.
@Lrak24pugak
@Lrak24pugak 6 ай бұрын
Thank you Pastor John and Ms. Lisa for your sharing God's Word and blessings in a simplified form and relatable as well. May God continue to bless your ministries.
@robertjackson1407
@robertjackson1407 6 ай бұрын
Thank you 😊
@dsilver7851
@dsilver7851 8 ай бұрын
What should a person do who finds themselves totally isolated because of rejection and now finds themselves struggling to get back to community because of anxiety?
@bujeeeeee
@bujeeeeee 7 ай бұрын
trial and error maybe
@bujeeeeee
@bujeeeeee 7 ай бұрын
you can always try again
@den8853
@den8853 7 ай бұрын
A much-needed topic that needs to be discussed, thank you for hearing the voice of God and speaking it forth
@QueenErusha
@QueenErusha 7 ай бұрын
My day 2 of watching your videos .
@bonolomashungwa1399
@bonolomashungwa1399 2 ай бұрын
Oh my God I was meant to listen to this, the moment John said especially now when children are committing suicide, I felt like I have listened to this, in the world it's dejavu, it was like am watching 2 sets
@waynescally6615
@waynescally6615 7 ай бұрын
Great conversation for those in rejection.
@NaoFlt
@NaoFlt 8 ай бұрын
I stumbled on your channel and count myself blessed for it! May God bless you, I feel like I've been given another tool to fight rejection from men and seek God's acceptance. Be blessed
@GodGivesNewBeginnings
@GodGivesNewBeginnings 8 ай бұрын
This was so helpful! Thank you!
@jerijanuary
@jerijanuary 8 ай бұрын
God is speaking! John, when you’re talking about stepping back and asking God if you’re guilty or innocent around minute 21:36 I had the Bible verse 1 Samuel 14:41 come to mind that states “Then Saul prayed to the Lord, the God of Israel, “Why have you not answered your servant today? If the fault is in me or my son Jonathan, respond with Urim, but if the men of Israel are at fault, respond with Thummim.” Jonathan and Saul were taken by lot, and the men were cleared.” ‭‭1 Samuel‬ ‭14:41‬ ‭NIV‬‬ Is there anyway you could clarify Urim (guilt) and Thummin (innocence) and how we can experience them when we are asking God if we are guilty or innocent if God is removing us from a situation where we feel rejection and what that may feel like if we are innocent or guilty? Is that what Saul is saying to God? “Make me feel guilt if I’m in the wrong or innocent if I’m right” or perhaps you could use this biblical scenario as a way to explain in another video if you do a part 2! PS I LOVED the Bait of Satan! I learned so much about David and Saul’s relationship, you have a gift for painting a picture with your writing!
@alexissalvani779
@alexissalvani779 8 ай бұрын
Such an inspiring and loving couple. I praise God for both of your life. As I hear this, I feel the embrace and the vast love of our God. Thank you, John and Lisa.
@annakhmelev4931
@annakhmelev4931 8 ай бұрын
So Good!!! 🙌🏼
@tayelormiller1949
@tayelormiller1949 8 ай бұрын
Yall interrupt each other a lot. It’s easier for me to listen when one person fully gets their thought out and then the next person speaks. I repent for this comment. The Holy Spirit revealed to me that this is considered sowing discord among the brethren. Thank you for the ministry and for taking to the time out to teach the word of God. God bless.
@Hummmingalong
@Hummmingalong 8 ай бұрын
I recognized that as well but also how graceful they are with one another. It makes me want to be better about not having to get my thoughts out but instead wanting to be a more humble listener
@lianacollier7064
@lianacollier7064 8 ай бұрын
They’re Italian! 🇮🇹❤️🤩
@nicolasdol2920
@nicolasdol2920 8 ай бұрын
mamma miaaa it’s the latin culture
@ccp22
@ccp22 8 ай бұрын
They've been married for 41 years. They blend their thoughts and sentences. Love their annointed conversations and authenticity. ❤❤
@OwnYourHealthiestLife
@OwnYourHealthiestLife 8 ай бұрын
It is definitely the art of listening. It is a beautiful dance. Their love for one another as they finish each others sentences and ensure that we get the full story and understanding. I can see the ability to stumble and I can also see opportunity for strength. I hope that you won’t allow their humanity to detour you from the depth that they share. ❤🙏🏽
@David-ei7hq
@David-ei7hq 8 ай бұрын
A billion plus souls for Jesus declared and decreed in The mighty name of Jesus amen Blessings to the fullest for this ministry declared and decreed in Jesus name
@debbiefritz5336
@debbiefritz5336 7 ай бұрын
This is a on time word..I pray there is a continuation of part two... I'll be looking for part two..... thank you John and Lisa Bevere..🙏✡️✝️🔥
@BethP785
@BethP785 8 ай бұрын
Yes!! Part two please!! I just love ya'll!!!
@burlevans300
@burlevans300 7 ай бұрын
I agree with the lady that spoke on interruption. Now although this is bad , doesn’t mean what there talking about is bad. Interruption can be worked through
@selbelay6014
@selbelay6014 8 ай бұрын
Rejection is a painful thing. Thank you for sharing you experience. I have learned a lot. God bless you both🎉😊
@matildakalunga302
@matildakalunga302 7 ай бұрын
This was so helpful, I really appreciate, I saw myself as younhere explaining
@MrsBenjamin2010
@MrsBenjamin2010 8 ай бұрын
Love hearing from you guys everyday. Truly inspiring and encouraging to listen to love y'all ❤️
@amyszybala1180
@amyszybala1180 7 ай бұрын
Love your program! The dialogue between the two of you is easy to listen to.
@APaper816
@APaper816 8 ай бұрын
Wow! I just found you two, and your video titles that I’ve clicked so far spoke directly on my life. Thank you!
@TheGodsgarden
@TheGodsgarden 8 ай бұрын
Awesome talk!
@junebuge.9192
@junebuge.9192 3 ай бұрын
Wow. When Lisa talked about her mom asking who Lisa liked more mom or dad reminded me of a time when my parents were divorcing my dad made me chose who I wanted to live with mom or dad. I remember wanting to live with my mom but I had to tell my dad I wanted to live with him because he was a mean violent alcoholic if I would have admit to him I wanted to live with my mom, my dad would have beat my butt over it. I don't know of I should share that on here but maybe someone going through something similar will know they aren't alone. Lord help me forgive my dad for how he was and is. In Jesus name I pray. Amen.
@AlphonsineTshibola
@AlphonsineTshibola 8 ай бұрын
This is so rich and so much to unpack, thank you so much Lisa and John!
@verawren2789
@verawren2789 8 ай бұрын
I feel like I am drowning in rejection from ex husband and children. I just can’t handle the pain
@jamestownnixocyp221
@jamestownnixocyp221 7 ай бұрын
Dear Jesus, Please comfort Vera.
@verawren2789
@verawren2789 7 ай бұрын
James thank you for your prayer. My prayer this year as I prepare to fast. God please show me my heart. Give me strength to steward the gifts You have given me including this season of rejection.
@carinacristianoheart
@carinacristianoheart 8 ай бұрын
Thank you! 🙏
@madeleinejeremy434
@madeleinejeremy434 8 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏❤️
@tiff_jane
@tiff_jane 8 ай бұрын
I'm so excited you guys are doing this podcast because it's so fun to hear you reacting with each other and it's great to have you teach together! It's so crazy to think how 2 people can impact a life the way you guys have mine, though we've never actually met. In 2016 right after we had gotten married and moved into our home my husband and I began going through a freedom small group with the church of the highlands and when we got to the chapter on offense and were discussing it my group leader said I think you need a little more in depth study on this topic and she recommended I get a book called The Bait of Satan by John Bevere. Well, of course, it just offended me 😂, and I never even looked into the book. However, God in His mercy is so incredible that as I walked past the unpacked boxes, we still hadn't gotten to that I had passed by every day for the last 6 months the title the bait of Satan catches my eye and my husband who truly isn't one to enjoy reading honestly had it in one of his old room boxes. His HS gf's mother had given it to him, and so I'm definitely paying attention now, I took it upstairs and read it in 2 days! And I looked it up on KZbin! It was life changing, but that was only the beginning. We had life hit us pretty hard within the next couple of years but also blessing us with our son. I was in a major spiritual rut and did the 21 day Jan fast with church of the highlands and ended up seeing an ad for you guys courses and ended up getting the app before it was even messenger X and was so truly blessed with the wisdom from God you guys shared and was also introduced to Mrs Lisa who I just immediately loved and related to ❤ you guys showed me what it looked like to actually have an intimate relationship with the Lord and you both taught practical ways to seek one for myself. I honestly would have a hard time putting into words how thankful I am for you both❤ I remember before my refinement really got going, I too prayed a prayer. I prayed God please like David let me be a woman after your own heart. I was honestly in the infancy of my born again life and it was also a type of excavation prayer because what I didn't realize in the moment was to be after the heart of God means you have to surrender to the undividing of your own and be willing to die to self. During one of my most painful seasons of life, is when I came across the app and was listening to John's wilderness course and when he said God told him he was in pain because dying hurts it impacted me so profoundly because it truly gave a purpose to the pain. Thank you both so much for saying yes to God! Like the old song goes, " I was a life that was changed!"
@junebuge.9192
@junebuge.9192 3 ай бұрын
I totally agree with that review. I want to dido that review.
@aimee1860
@aimee1860 8 ай бұрын
This helps me thank you!
@lazrle6074
@lazrle6074 8 ай бұрын
I love you both and thank the Lord for you!
@casscass8672
@casscass8672 7 ай бұрын
Love you both and love this ministry
@laxel01
@laxel01 8 ай бұрын
Great message! God bless
@cashabea
@cashabea 7 ай бұрын
This talk was very encouraging & helpful
@ladonnawalley8662
@ladonnawalley8662 8 ай бұрын
Thank you both for addressing this topic in the manner you chose. For me, it definitely was a God message at the appropriate moment ❤❤. I have heard from God on huge life steps two years ago and I feel like what you two discussed today. Thank you again for reinforcing and reminding us to hang on, pray, and keep serving and doing. Blessings
@RebeccaLLaVigne
@RebeccaLLaVigne 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your hearts and experiences on the topics of rejection and offense. I also really appreciate you talking about your journey writing and what that looked like. Please keep these coming!
@melodymutepaire-mwanza1663
@melodymutepaire-mwanza1663 8 ай бұрын
I am helped indeed!
@paulsakwe7380
@paulsakwe7380 2 ай бұрын
Wow you can be obedient and still experience rejection
@kristiegielow587
@kristiegielow587 8 ай бұрын
Your content is so rich in wisdom! Thank you so much. I wish I had discovered your podcast sooner. I have been sharing your messages with others!
@conversationswithjohnandlisa
@conversationswithjohnandlisa 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for your kind words! We are so glad this blesses you. Keep sharing with others so that they can hear the message too!
@lukecarr8057
@lukecarr8057 8 ай бұрын
Thank you John and Lisa for this message and every message and book you both have. Time and time again your messages have been the healing balm I need just when I need it. I can constantly hear the voice inside the voice in your messages
@rockyguy3763
@rockyguy3763 8 ай бұрын
This was so good and right on time. Thank yall for sharing
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