Overdue Finds Episode 40: Interview with "Mindhunter" John Douglas

[@deannag48]

I is just found your podcast & I got so excited to hear John Douglas is here!!! I too, could listen to him all day!! Congratulations for your phenomenal podcast!!!

[@watchchrisdraw647]

I could listen to him talk about the cases for hours. Thanks for this interview!

[@arkhamsrazor7075]

Thank you for this. John Douglas is my personal hero.

[@silvertree2189]

Me too! If you're watching Mind Hunter....there's a scene in S1 where the Dennis (BTK killer) is burning papers (his sadistic drawings) in the back of his house.....this scene I believe was actually based on John Douglas in his book...John actually burned his papers being overworked and frustrated with the Bureau, being flown all over the US working cases, dealing with the Green River Killer...John had suffered a serious brain injury. John's my hero too! :)

[@arkhamsrazor7075]

@@silvertree2189 Yeah man, the series plays a little fast and loose with some things, but it works for what Fincher is trying to do. I believe that scene you're talking about was Fincher's nod to John's operating opinion in 1995 that the police had probably already interviewed Rader at some point after the first few murders, and didn't realize it, and so he had the presence of mind to stop for awhile. It sucks that season 3 is basically back-burnered, and I know they were having issues as far as where to go with the content after Atlanta. What I understand, the idea for season 3 so far is to split the focus between John's involvement with the Yorkshire Ripper case in England, and the time period would also put Holden and Tench on a collision course with Gary Heidnik, Rochester (Shawcross), and the Trailside case back in the U.S. Jim Barney's character is basically an amalgamation of Jim Wright and Judson Ray, and there was the whole thing where Jud Ray's wife tried to have him killed around that time so. There is a whole lot they can do. That time frame is also right around the time Bundy got busted for the first time.

[@arkhamsrazor7075]

And there's Robert Hansen, too. I'd say that one will definitely end up in the series.

[@dorothybennett2191]

Love your podcasts, you guys are notably humble, smart and are doing a fantastic job making we the public aware of great books and their authors!! And I love to meet the person who does not highly regard John Douglas, he is very humble about himself never trying to leave out people in law enforcement, detectives who work tirelessly to solve sometimes very difficult cases. What a blessing John Douglas is to the understanding perpetrators of horrible crimes. Thank you so much ☺️.

[@whitneyhoward8504]

Much respect to him for always speaking out when something wasn't right.

[@Fefe559]

John Douglas... brave, smart, inituative

[@scarfo441]

I loved how the police in anchorage alaska was puzzled by a serial killer killing prostitutes,and asked him for a profile and he sent them the exact profile of the killer and helped just the case wide open..they made a movie about this killer..I believe the movie was named on frozen ground..

[@angelinaanderson481]

Loved it!! I’m late listening but wow! Great job!

[@edmontonpl]

Thank you so much Angelina!

[@jacobzaranyika9334]

Thank you🙏

[@yes2day100]

Such an amazing memory.

[@cocoann7681]

Who ever directed the 1st season was the best I love the cast pls someone pick it back up

[@HayleyGardening22]

There is a second season in case you haven’t watched it. No confirms of season 3 anytime soon.

[@cococookie3830]

A great one!

[@deekurtz46]

He’s amazing. So funny to hear how Hoover the gay cross dresser was so strict. Fact is, he had dirt on everybody. Lol.

[@GregScratchley]

Great Episode, and an amazing Guest! Thanks to Mtek (kzbin.info) for letting you get this call-in - what an interesting way to see real-life become literature!

[@burnsloads]

This Hoover guy sounds like he was a real jerk.

[@arkhamsrazor7075]

Yep. The FBI under Hoover was a completely different machine. Hoover was the byproduct of a completely different era, and basically was what was needed in the beginning in a lot of ways, to deal with people like Capone and Dillinger, and internal corruption, but when the whole advent of the "criminal mind" as an entity started to evolve in America, people like Douglas, Ressler, Hazelwood and Haigmaier were more suited to deal with the way the society was changing. Hoover was an intolerant bigot and an epic asshole. He got a lot of shit done with his "iron fist" policies but he was a dinosaur by the late 60s.

[@bellaflame9294]

Hoover would’ve shared some similarities in the profile of several criminals: lived with his mother until the age of 40, repressed sexuality, dressing in women’s clothes...abuse of power.

[@lanvlanv5184]

@@bellaflame9294 But effective nevertheless.

[@ruffshenanigans9582]

Read the book “Killers of the Flower Moon” how he formed the modern FBI because of this case. BTW one of the best books I’ve ever read

[@tiarnan76]

probably didn't own a doghouse either

[@silvertree2189]

AMAZING Interview! Wow.

[@edmontonpl]

Thank you!

[@silvertree2189]

Edmonton Public Library and can’t believe his son is here in Halifax. Wow, small world. Maybe John will one day speak here. So many questions to ask. 👍

[@rosariodiaz31]

Great interview

[@Prof_Tickles92]

Sold out? Shit how do people find out about his speaking events? He doesn’t have a website with a list of appearances. So how do people find out? I’d love to go.

[@nicknewman7848]

Sorry, I just had a fantasy that you finally managed to get those tickets you wanted and when asked to collect them at the box office you had to give them the name "Professor Tickles"

[@HayleyGardening22]

@@nicknewman7848😂

[@manamedia]

3:50 You’re Welcome

[@shannanhelm7556]

manamedia thank you

[@mider9996]

What book is he discussing

[@HayleyGardening22]

‘Mindhunter’ which John Douglas wrote which then became a Netflix series. He has also written other books about his work with serial killers.

[@cocoann7681]

I love this show they cancelled it why!!!!!

[@midwestprankster3298]

There is an article where the creator explains why but he has also said it's possible that it could come back

[@tinadenning3186]

I am so interested but his delivery is killing me.

[@cocoann7681]

Me too

[@kyledamron]

Of course Canada took our program and did it better. I wish our LE would give these things a try. Just like with profiling it seems that LE hates change

[@WudEvZ]

Dude the music is so inappropriate haha

[@tiarnan76]

I like John but the WM3 and Amanda Knox are 100% guilty

[@gavinbrando8255]

😂😂😂😂 based on ZERO

[@gavinbrando8255]

You’re 100% idiotic 😂😂😂 to think that

[@HayleyGardening22]

I could see why some intellectually impared people would argue the WM3 but for anyone questioning Knox I’d have to assume they have a single digit IQ or have Tin Foil Hat Syndrome.