Overheating '13 Toyota Tacoma. Last shop want to replace something over the top? CAR WIZARD explains

Occasionally Toyotas breakdown and this 2013 Tacoma has an issue of overheating. What does the CAR WIZARD 🧙‍♂️ find and why did the last shop want to replace something rather crazy?
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[@TheCarCareNut]

The book time on labor is spot on actually. This engine looks simple and easy to work on until you actually tear into it! The dipstick and the transmission dipstick are almost guaranteed casualties. Information on this engine’s repair is very scarce as it’s mega reliable. There’s a very high likelihood the head will be good as this has the old school head gasket design with the black rings. David as soon as you see the head gasket you’ll know what I mean. Good luck with this one and keep up the good work.

[@retiredafce3373]

Didn’t you just do one of these?

[@TheCarCareNut]

@@retiredafce3373 yes I did. But it was for oil burning in addition to head gasket leak

[@retiredafce3373]

@@TheCarCareNut yes that’s right. Thank you.

[@bigjeep2195]

TheCarCareNut is hands down the best there is, yes I'm a Toyota owner and love all your quality work and knowledge.

[@accordinglyryan]

As soon as I clicked on this video I thought of you!

[@crispyjokingtuna1495]

The car car nut did this a couple months ago. It was an interesting job and it did take him (a Toyota technician) close to 20 hours

[@Tempsho]

Was just thinking the same thing. I watched that video too

[@hothmobile100]

On this 2TR-FE or you mean on a 6 cylinder? Got a link to the video?

[@DylanL69]

@@hothmobile100 was the 2 tr fe 4cyl

[@hothmobile100]

@@DylanL69 do you remember the video Title? I saw him say a hybrid Lexus head gasket job was 6500 but it was because he bought a new short block and cooler....etc. but where is a video where he did a 2tr-fe head gasket? The weird thing to me about 2tr-fe head gaskets costing 6500 bucks is that I thought you could buy the whole engine from Japan for 4500. I know he said you can't buy just the long block from Toyota of USA but I think people can buy whole engines from Japan.

[@DylanL69]

@@hothmobile100 that was his latest one it was a month or 2 back and toyota doesn't sell long blocks at all the name of the video is the best toyota engine failed

[@colinscutt5104]

i love how you guys politely review the car before explaining how bad or not "the other shop" is

[@ryanscott1989]

I purchased a civic from a dealer. Took it for a test drive. Everything seemed fine and drove great. Drove it to my dad's on back roads. It's still fine. Started driving it home on the highway, and after about 50 miles, it was overheating due to the head gasket being bad. The guy did pay my dad and brother to fix it and the tow home. I was working 50-60 hours a week and unable to do it myself.

[@MrRobert1603]

Follow the CARE CARE NUT for Toyota Engine Short Block builds !! Great Toyota shop !!

[@starrisk]

Can't wait for the bus video... It's sure to be an interesting change of flavor

[@batboy-xf3ki]

I worked with Toyota in the south east region. South East Toyota, and Southern Toyota (Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas, Missippi.) Are owned by companies seperate from Toyota. The regions are managed by companies approached in the late 60's to help introduce toyota to the us when people were still pissed about ww2. Jim Moran built SET. His company still survives today. Toyota tried to buy the rights back for the region in the early 90's. Jim said "90 billion and its yours"

[@richardsmith2721]

Eric at South Main Auto just checked a Chrysler 200 today with that kit. It failed the test. I'm shocked that Alex from LegitStreetCars missed the head gasket on his Ford Lightning. He had freaking chocolate milk in his overflow reservoir. I think he's a really good mechanic, so I was really surprised.

[@volvo09]

It's pretty obvious when there is goop in the coolant res.... Only other cause for that would be a failed trans cooler or oil cooler, so you have to be real suspicious if you have overheating AND see expansion tank oil.

[@marshmower]

Typically that's the oil filter adapter gasket which is notorious for allowing oil into the coolant but not vice versa.

[@marshmower]

​​@@volvo09ord used a coolant/oil filter or sender bracket that varied according to the vehicle. They fail and you replace the gasket. You have to flush the radiator a lot after fixing the problem.

[@greyghost1962]

2.7 is an excellent motor, just as you said they ae not available cause they dont break. Put a low mile junkyard motor in for 1500 dollars good to go.

[@Dirkmez]

I did a head gasket job for 300$ on a 1991 Toyota Corolla All-Trac, cause I did it myself!

[@leonardovalladares4315]

I always see broken down toyotas camry corolla some tacomas siennas tundras

[@umbertoyltp]

Hmm, mrs Wizard is low on cafeine!

[@Vincent-ke5zn]

I hope that you're enjoying your retirement Mrs Wizard

[@406Steven]

The best part of that engine is calling the parts store looking for the water pump gasket and telling them you keep getting the wrong one so you need them to describe it to you.

[@jd9119]

At least the owner can write off the repair costs as a business expense.

[@Ognjen19]

please make the update video for this one , would be nice to see how it turned out in the end :)

[@kcm732]

TSS package is a dealership intalled package (mainly in the southern US states) added only to factory built SR5 tacomas, entails those T force wheels with all terrain tires, side steps that are "non toyota branded" usually and the rear unique bedside graphics. sometimes on later ones they also added those 'rivited' pocket style bushwacker fender flares and more aggressive bedside graphics

[@IzaguirreC]

Port installed not dealer installed. Gulf states Toyota mainly.

[@jamesm568]

I have the TSS package and I have a SR.

[@bliglum]

Good comment, saw that TSS and was like "What in the world is that??"

[@DaddyStarbuck]

Yep, my 1999 taco had it fresh from Florida Enkei 14 inch wheels, bucket seats and console, and decal package

[@retrocompaq5212]

dont go into water unless you have the frame recall done, your life worth more than a pos toyota

[@bigjeep2195]

You charge $175 an hours? You said $3,500in labor divided by 20 hours is $175.00 I would suggest the owner to go to the local Toyota dealer.

[@houseofno]

Sure, while WAITING IN LINE behind all those other paying customers.

[@jeremypike9153]

Every single car breaks 100% of the time. Some may take 150,000 to see it happen others literally take 500 miles but all machines have downtime.

[@rdhudon7469]

That's what I keep telling my wife.

[@Blakecryderman7244]

@Pike all depends how you take care of the vehicle as well.

[@jeremypike9153]

@@Blakecryderman7244 every vehicle fails eventually. Not doing maintenance only shortens the time between the beginning of ownership and failure. These new engines use low friction piston rings and multi-displacement systems. Both tend to cause an engine to burn oil around 100,000 miles. Some designs fail at very low mileage and some make it out to over 100,000 but all designs eventually break. It's the nature of the beast when it comes to anything mechanical.

[@mitchhedberg4415]

The rust belt eats all cars in about 20 years. A Toyota engine and transmission will likely last the entire time if people don't drive that much. But a Nissan/Hyundai/Fiat will likely fail in years 12 -15 or so. .

[@mplslawnguy3389]

@@mitchhedberg4415 People in the south have no idea how good they have it as far as vehicles go. Road salt just kills vehicles. It's why you don't see a lot of the older reliable vehicles that guys like the wizard recommend, on the road up here unless they're kept in the garage in the winter.

[@HEMI345S]

The beauty of owning a Toyota ... when it fails it's luxury German vehicles prices to fix it 😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀

[@yeasonyea1]

Moms 05 v6 4Runners head gasket blew. At 250k she asked me should I get a new 4Runner? I said do you want to pay $50,000 for a backup camera and boxy styling. Because it has the same power train. It’s now got 275k and can’t wait for our Colorado to Wisconsin road trip this summer. Love that truck

[@johnjohnmcclane1818]

In case you don't know, back up cams are really easy , and cheap, to add onto a car.

[@Idtelos]

Great vid! Excellent advice "Word of caution, just because it is a Toyota, it does not mean it wll not cost you a kidney to repair if you fail to keep proper maintainence on it".

[@toddjamison77]

Yep. All cars fail. Even Toyotas. I've been a Toyota owner for decades and all of my cars have had issues over time. We tend to keep them from cradle to grave. They last longer before having issues than other brands, but they do break. And when they do, it is very expensive.

[@Bdamazyn]

@@toddjamison77 I like Toyota and considering today's market price for used vehicles I would probably pay as much as $10k to keep one on the road.

[@swamp-yankee]

@@Bdamazyn well gee, I could get another Tacoma for that

[@Bdamazyn]

@@swamp-yankee What planet do you live on?

[@swamp-yankee]

@@Bdamazyn the one where mine was 2k

[@MurphyTheBandChild]

Wow! A dipstick for the transmission! I wish my '07 V6 had one of those.

[@victoria.beilstein996]

The 2TR-FE are very common engines here in Mexico inside the 07-19 Toyota Hiace that is used as a Collective Taxi in most of the country, you can see street mechanics working with them in almost every corner, I have seen them doing replacements of head gaskets and other important things by the sidewalks.

[@yelapa999]

So right! Mexico is all about the Toyotas and the good kind of VW equipment. Ha!

[@victoria.beilstein996]

@@yelapa999 yeah! people actually reffer the Hiace as "combi" because of the vw kombi that was used as commuter Taxi decades ago, the word just kept in the collective as a name to every van used as public transport, wether is a vw or not.

[@musijl]

👏👏👏 Qué padre leer historia de aquí en este canal, me hiciste recordar los taxis con un bote de Nivea como luz interior sólo de recordar las combis y peseros.

[@victoria.beilstein996]

​@@musijljajaja es que soy de ciudad de México, cada miércoles que no circula mi Impala me toca usar combi y metro para ir al trabajo, una lastima que las micros están a punto de desaparecer también, la ciudad va a extrañar mucho el sonido de sus V8

[@musijl]

@@victoria.beilstein996 sé perfecto que eres de aquí, ese conocimiento y esa historia sólo es de gente que tenemos cierta edad y que sabemos qué es el D. F. y que los tacos al pastor ya no son lo que eran antes jaja.

[@nyrob2388]

Would love a follow up video after its repaired showing the full price and the actual amount of labor is involved. Having a 21 with the 2tr-fe 2.7 which i plan to keep for a long time always like to know more about the mostly bulletproof 4cyl

[@lejoshmont2093]

you can look at the care care nut he did one of these recently. Also would recommend following his advice on the maintenance schedules.

[@tylerbarrett6652]

Did you and Eric over at South Main Auto Repair LLC coordinate your uploads this week? He had an overheating problem on his channel today too... so it was kind of cool to see both of you walk through a diagnosis using similar tools.

[@davehorlacher]

Eric showed the repair, not talk about it.

[@tylerbarrett6652]

@@davehorlacher - no... actually he didn't repair it. He had a car that overheated only after building compression/temps. I don't even know if he plans to do the repair... or if the customer wants him to. He just diagnosed it when everyone was telling him it was the cap, or a clogged radiator, or a water pump... Anyway... very similar. The Wizard is actually going to repair it.

[@williamholtonjr.8577]

Wrenching WIth Kenny uploaded with a similar problem today, as well.

[@colchronic]

A lot of JDM suppliers also do sell used low mileage engines from Japan I'm not sure if they use that engine in any vehicles over there but usually they give you like a 90-day warranty

[@ewxlt]

Note to self: stick to the V6 for the Tacoma.

[@houseofno]

It's still an engine, and it can still blow headgaskets, especially if you ignore replacing water pumps and thermostats.

[@ewxlt]

@@houseofno yes but replacements are available

[@matthewpaine6908]

​@@ewxlt Replacements are available for the 4 cylinder. They range from 3 to 4 thousand.

[@elonsus9747]

The V6’s blow head gaskets too. 😅 Especially the 4.0’s at high mileage.

[@AaronSmith-kr5yf]

The value on these Toyota Tacomas is INSANE!!!! Borrowed my dad's 2016 Tacoma to haul some crap and was thinking, hey this is pretty nice. Figured hell its 8 years old now, maybe they've come down in price a bit. Looked up a similar spec(2wd, SR5, extra cab, v6/tow package) and they are still $30,000!!!! Maybe 23-25k for one with 200k miles on it. Went to the Toyota website, a new 2023 truck configured the same was $35k. Dad said he paid $30k for that truck back in 2016. If you can live with the smaller cab/no options it makes WAY MORE SENSE to buy a new Tacoma.

[@ahmadghosheh3104]

Yeah, I would love one but they aren't giving them away lol😂 even early 2000 to 2010 are pretty pricy

[@77Infidel]

I bought a used 1999 Tacoma SR5, TRD, from a neighbor, 72,000 miles, back in 2006 for $10,200. In February of this year, I was t-boned by a lady in a Tesla. Truck was totalled. 263,000 miles. Insurance cut me a check for $10,700. Problem is if I want to replace it with a similar truck, they are going for between $9,000-$12,000.

[@edwardbughiuc100]

$175 an hour in kansas for the kid to do the job at 35 bucks an hour in under 15 hours. Yeah, I'd quit my teaching job too

[@kevinvoss220]

Just had our done for 2100 in Nebraska. It’s worth the drive. Lavanders automotive.

[@Freddy37022]

In my research on TSS, I’ve found that a large dealership in Texas has developed this TSS on Tundra and Tacoma, usually base model or SR5 models, typically wheels and tire combination, steps and that decal that has nothing to do with Toyota or TRD

[@derekfriday7931]

For those wondering: Texas and Louisiana (maybe a Mississippi) is the only region in US that still exclusively buys vehicles through a distributor as opposed to Toyota directly. Gulf states Toyota supplies them, TSS is basically them taking a standard tacoma and throwing optional/tforce wheels and tires on them. My truck has these exact wheels and stickers on it. Also for some reason they will install a sport series metal badge on only the drivers door?

[@andybub45]

@@derekfriday7931 incorrect. Southeast Toyota is a distributor as well that covers the whole southeast. Similar to gulf states but much larger.

[@shawnpepper9582]

Toyota Sport Series you are correct it's just a different package.Catback exhaust,TSS floor mats and I think 17 inch rims

[@derekfriday7931]

@@andybub45 learned something new today. I thought it was only gulf states left

[@jamesm568]

I have a TSS Toyota SR and it's an off-road package for two-wheel drive trucks.

[@gabrielhugges6820]

Its crazy that this little 4 cylinder engine headgasket cost the same as a head gasket job on a LB7/LLY duramax

[@flight2k5]

Crazy no one cares

[@googolplex2789]

@@flight2k5 I think everyone that owns the truck or considers owning one cares.

[@flight2k5]

@@googolplex2789 is that somehow justo faction in your simple brain of how a duramax is a superior engine?

[@googolplex2789]

@@flight2k5 your brain is malfunctioning go talk to your doctor.

[@jeremysmith1777]

Just speculation, but the previous shop may have be bitten by a 2AZ head gasket that went south on the tech, or the shop. The aluminum-block Toyota engines will pull the threads out of the block if the engine was overheated severely. The 2.7 isn't bad for that, though. I'd slap a gasket/timing set on it, and have the head checked by a reputable machine shop, and it should be good for another 200k.

[@angryshoebox]

I wonder how many Toyota dealers the owner had to go to before he found one with a 4 cylinder Tacoma equipped like this one in stock?

[@Losingsince]

I had to go all the way to another state to find one, specifically with a manual transmission

[@copperkettlepot]

I am really surprised to see color matched fender flares on a '13 4 cyl 2WD. That stood out on an otherwise bare bones SR5.

[@taylorc2542]

A manual and four cylinder AND 4WD are the holy grail of Tacomas.

[@phatgringo2.0]

Almost bought one just like this 10 years ago. Wish I had.

[@GMAC84]

@@taylorc2542 That is why I am still holding on to my 98 2.7l 4WD manual with locking hubs lol.

[@OriginalYTBR]

I think us Toyota techs have to disagree about the 1% of Toyotas needing repair.

[@surferdude4487]

I think that Car Wizard meant that 1% of the cars he repairs are toyotas. Just guessing.

[@DJR5280]

Share some stories on common issues you've seen please?

[@flight2k5]

What a stupid comment 🤣

[@dillonkoch72]

You must be talking about that problematic 4cyl in the corolla/camry that has a oil drinking problems.

[@kenik2023]

@@DJR5280 Pre rusting frames? Wiring? Head gasket sensor issues? Where you want to start doofus who never touched a wrench👀

[@cnorton1us]

It's definitely a different world when it's worth it to put $6K or more into a 10 year old fairly basic pickup. As crazy as $25K for a similar one in good condition is, it's more like $50K for a new one. Hopefully they didn't run it much while overheated and the head won't need to be replaced or any other additional work. It's also amazing how much else has to be replaced these days when doing a head gasket, but you definitely don't want to try to "save" a few dollars by skipping those other items.

[@toddjamison77]

It is. But like he said, they hold their value so well. We definitely are living in a crazy world right now.

[@0bzen22]

New cars are trash, even big ones. They put small turbo-charged engines for the sake of efficiency, emissions, and lower fuel consumption, but they are unreliable and cost a fortune to fix. Result, people buy new cars after three years. So much for the environment. Give an old Toyota truck for $20K over a new truck for $50K any day. Actually, give me a new Hybrid Toyota Corolla. Hopefully will be as reliable as they are cracked up to be.

[@Blakecryderman7244]

@@0bzen22 I couldn’t agree more with you about that.

[@tylergronk-wd9dx]

​@@0bzen22buy 90s-2006 toyotas while u still can. Gen 1 tundra

[@danielmonahan6195]

I got a brand new 2023 Taco TRD Off-Road earlier this year for 37k. I'm feeling pretty good about that deal after seeing this.

[@newman5924]

Yeah I don't know where the wizard gets his used prices - up here you can get used Tacomas like this one without issues for about $12k.

[@wranglercody8422]

37k? That’s a steel. Most dealers around me would list for $48-55k.

[@wranglercody8422]

37k? That’s a steel. Most dealers around me would list for $48-55k.

[@danielmonahan6195]

Bought it near Baltimore...the dealership had several others selling for close to the same price in January.

[@karlos1060]

I am just amazed by howmuch labour is in the USA. If i understood correct it's about 175$ an hour? With or without tax? That is crazy. In the Netherlands such job is no more then 2000 to 4000$ all included. And from what i understand i would go with a new block then anyway! If the block without the head is 3500$ that is an investment i would alway make instead of using a 210K+ miles engine with such rebuild costs. I know in the Netherlands a lot of simple 4 cilinder cars a head rebuild will not be much over 1K $. So just baffeld for the costs. I wonder howmuch does the labour pay in the USA if the prices are that high?

[@21Piloteer]

You think that's the labor rate for the whole USA? 😆 Stay on your side of the pond there Bjorn.

[@thebeddoctor4273]

I knew it would be the 4 cylinder. Unfortunately its under powered for that truck

[@javieracevedo9352]

i think the same. auto makers have to stop fitting tiny engines on big cars. its just dumb.

[@houseofno]

That underpowered engine has continued to power this truck for 277 THOUSAND miles. Yeah. Worthless, underpowered four cylinder.

[@javieracevedo9352]

@@houseofno Compared to other tacoma engines, that engine died too young. Im not the only one who thinks like this.

[@houseofno]

@@javieracevedo9352 Did you watch the video? The engine didn't die. Car Wizard stated they are replacing head gasket and the owner will be back on the road. Nowhere in the video is it ever stated that this engine died or failed.

[@thebeddoctor4273]

@@houseofno no one said worthless. Just underpowered. The 6 cylinder will easily surpass that.

[@GoldenHart1970]

Just LS swap it for a couple grand 😄 I hope there is a part 2 of this or a video on Danielsons channel that shows the amount of work, because 20 hours is insane

[@herbiehusker1889]

With the LS you'd have more power and probably better fuel economy

[@bimmerwman]

Yeah, I would take my 2002 Sierra 1500HD 6.0 any day over risking having to pay that much for a head gasket on a 4 cyl Toyota. Also, my GMC has 240,000 miles on it. The only issue that it ever had was a 4L80E trans replacement at 200,000 miles. It has always been used for heavy towing as well, Campers, Boats etc.

[@michaeldunagan8268]

Yah- -from lizard sand that the agent had everything easy to get to kind of flies in the face of a $6,000 quote. However, as an owner of a 1999 Toyota Solara 3.0 L V6 automatic, I tend to know what it means that Toyota parts are pricey. Over $159.00 dollars for a rear motor mount w/bushing.

[@mnwolves180]

The Toyota timing chains have paint marks on them. If the paint is still visible on the chain, the chain is reusable. If the paint has faded, replace it. Easiest way to check if the chain has overheated/stretched.

[@billmelcher625]

that's not going to work I need a new full retail price chain to make any uh... warranty on this

[@mnwolves180]

@@billmelcher625 I work at a Lexus dealership. We rarely ever sell timing chains. I've maybe sold 4-5 in the 7 years I've worked at the dealership.

[@petesmitt]

Engine rebuilders often use melt tabs with their heads and blocks; warranty is voided if the tabs melt.. If the 225F tab is melted, but the 250 melt tab is not: the coolant must have gotten over 225F, and for a sustained period. This sort of overheating often goes unnoticed, and does not necessarily result in the coolant boiling over or immediate engine damage. Even still, it could lead to an eventual, premature failure of the engine in the way of a failed water jacket seal or burned valve, for example. If the 225F and the 250F tabs are both melted, there must have been a very severe and noticeable overheating episode involving coolant boiling-over. This type of event typically does not go unnoticed. Depending on how quickly the engine is shut down, severe engine damage may or may not occur. But once the coolant boils (turns into a gas), there is nothing to absorb the energy the 1500 degree combustion gasses are generating and rarely does it not lead to severe, if not catastrophic engine damage.

[@5kaykay5803]

That's why you always get a 2nd or 3rd opinion. My jeep was overheating a few years ago, so I took it to a shop, and the guy told me, "You have a blown head gasket, and your engine is trash,". That will be $6000, please, and thank you. Took it to another place, and I was told it was just trapped air in the cooling system. 😅 It just needed to burp, and what do you know? It was free of charge!

[@carlwilliams6977]

Wow! You must have been walking on clouds for the rest of the day! Of course, it looks like you're prettier than I am. They would have replaced my head gasket!🙃

[@brucesahroian1482]

Well, I just had my Daughter's Dodge Durango fixed (still more to do) ( Colorado) at a "reputable shop" there. It had something to do with leaking oil and causing the computer to put the vehicle in "limp" mode! She has been driving it for about 10 years now and besides tires and oil changes, hasn't done anything to it at all!! The shop quoted me $2400.00! as the repair requires that the engine (intake) needed to be taken off in order to fix it! I figure that at todays costs, it would be way cheaper to spend the $$$$ to have it fixed than buy some "Dirt Bag" used vehicle that might need more than her car did!!! Plesent Surprise!! It costs $2200! when finished! The shop gave it at least 3 driving test of 10 miles or more to make sure it was fixed and the parts used were from NAPA and had a 3 year/36,000 mile Nationwide Warranty!! My Daughter said it had way more "get up and go!" now!

[@jayjaynella4539]

Unlike cars from the 50s to the 70s, there are no easy fixes on cars. This is by design as governments all over want to end personal transportation, so that is why cars are under constant government attack. Have you not noticed that?

[@georgebettiol8338]

@@jayjaynella4539 No haven't noticed government attack. However, I have noted the demands imposed on car companies by customers. Customers wan't a car that is cheap to purchase, runs on the smell of an oily rag, requires no maintenance, has the power and torque of a 7.2 litre V8 engine of the late 1960s, contains every option conceivable that can be activated by a simple push of a button, and reverts to a soft cushion cocoon when that car is crashed. Can't be that hard - right?

[@johngaither9263]

Good luck getting it fixed. Service and replacement parts are pretty low on the list of priorities Chrysler and its present owner consider for those owning their products. Sell em and forget em has been their policy for way too long.

[@merrillschaps2325]

You should talk to Amid from the Car Care Nut channel. He is a certified Toyota technician and he knows Toyota never offers reman engines because you can't sleeve the cylinders. And as long as the timing chain has its bright colors on the timing marks, the timing chain is still good and not overheated.

[@kerrylewis2581]

Is it worth it? Hell Yes! if the rest of the truck is solid. It's crazy to think it will take 20 hours to complete the job, but I trust AMD from the CCN channel (who, by the way, speaks highly of the Car Wizard) and he also commented on this video.

[@carlwilliams6977]

I've been in this situation for over a year, with an 2006 Tacoma. This video was extremely helpful. My symptoms were a rough idle, which led to diagnosis of coolent in the #1 cylinder. The truck never overheated. Nobody could (or would) provide a reasonable explanation for the price of the 6K head gasket job. I mean, if they told me it included replacing the timing chain, it would have at least softened the blow! So I used Barrs Leak as a temporary fix, in contemplation of replacing the motor. Interestingly, I got a quote from Toyota for the bottom end $2,200, lower than the 3K mentioned in the video. Living in the San Francisco Bay area, I'm not used to that! While the oil is clean now, initially, it did show signs of water which, would be expected. I wonder how much that changes the viability of simply doing the head gasket?

[@goldblueberries326]

The other shop was not wrong for their quote when you consider all that must be replaced on this engine .... there are risks with both shop quotes. 1. Replace engine with a salvage engine... no history of the engine. 2. Wizard quote risk problems once you tare into the engine... the upside is you know the history... it doesn't use oil...

[@craigg4925]

Yeah, the labor time is set very high because most mechanics can't work on anything anymore, I had to tell a dealer show what was wrong with my truck, after they tried to fix it 3 times, the good thing is they did not charge me for the work they did trying to fix it. it was running bad at idle or when you stopped at a light but ran OK down the road. man, they changed a lot of sensors, then said it was the catalytic converter and changed that, it still did the same thing, so I broke the rule and told them that I was thinking it could be the torque converter. and they sent it to a transmission shop and what do you know, it was and at 200k miles let's do a transmission rebuild, so I paid for that, I did have a good Warranty.

[@carljenkins5092]

Do you have a video of this job actually doing it. I’m impressed watching you technicians do these big jobs. Thanks for posting. I have a Tacoma with the 4.0

[@Berniessen]

I know modern engines are made mechanic (un)friendly............But please show what would be 2,5 days of labour (atleast here in europe 8hoursof labour for a boss a days is normal) why would a head gasket swap on a 4 cyl engine with chains cost over 2days full labour? On my old inline 6 engine (GM/Opel) made in 1980 i can do a head gasket swap in a morning as its sooooooooo piss easy thats why i prefer the old cars,u poor in fuel and repair them. But the cost of this repair of this Toyota would bankrubt many people here as these cost are not affordable for most people who have a job with a paycheck way below inflation compensation level meaning they are getting more poor by the month....

[@bikeman1x11]

seems crazy - 20 hours for a 4 cyl head jobs

[@tacomas9602]

It is a lot quicker to take the engine out, really. A 2TR can come out for the average Joe mechanic in about 3 hours. SOOO much easier to work in it then too

[@Natepwnsu]

you can hate on BMW Car Wizard, But a head Gasket Job, is 6 hours on basically any car they make, and when I needed mine replaced because it was leaking, it was 4 hours, 2 complimentary and parts, cost me $500. Now Coggin Bmw down in South Florida, Is likely the best dealer for service in the state, or buying a car, but I don't think the rate was lower then another BMW dealer, and either way, its pennies on the dollar in comparison to if yours blows on a Mazda, Sure you save a few thousand on the car, but you also get 2-3 years less warranty on average, the cost of a new mazda is in the $30k range w/o a turbo and 38 or so with. That's Bmw / Merc / Audi prices esp on a lightly used car. I am worried about getting slammed into by some DBag driving a Tesla or something, and it Crushing a Lesser made vehicle that's not made to withstand a Autobahn style collision, now a days any EV is like a Large Truck with a loaded bed in weight, that should be a concern for everyone when shopping for a new car. Sad to see them Made the Engine so Small and So Technically Engineered its basically a nightmare if something does break.

[@Flies2FLL]

Head gaskets get killed by two main causes: 1. Not changing your coolant at recommended intervals. I have a Subaru Outback LL Bean with the 3.0 H6, and every two or three years it gets changed. My '14 Cayman S says five years between changes, and I had it done last year. On Sue Baru, I do it myself but the Porsche needs to be hooked to a PIWIS computer to properly bleed off all the air pockets. 2. Driving your car hard when the engine is cold. The head gasket is not properly sealed when cold, and combustion gasses can sometimes slip past it during high throttle high rpm conditions at this point. This erodes the gasket quickly and you are in the repair shop. Drive your car normally for the first few miles until the engine warms up if you can. Warm up idling is a waste, just drive normally with no hard acceleration. Great video! I wonder what killed the gasket on this Toyota....

[@Blakecryderman7244]

@Flies2FLL very good advice! Yeah don’t go over 3000 RPM if your temperature gauge is still not reached the middle. Always follow that advice with my 2006 Matrix and my 1986 Camry. I do have to change the coolant in the Matrix though.

[@cutehumor]

good advice. I start up and leave immediately but drive like a slow turtle until the coolant is at full operating temperature here in TN.

[@DanielJohnson-ec8rk]

Your head gasket isn’t sealed when cold? That is dumb as hell to say and not true at all. Apparently you have done z we o engine work, especially a simple compression test

[@Flies2FLL]

@@DanielJohnson-ec8rk First of all, it is obvious that you know nothing of engines and their construction. Your head bolts/nuts are not as tight as you think they are. They are tightened to a very specific torque for a REASON. Manufacturers do this on purpose. Why? Because of the expansion of the block and head due to heat. You see, if they were to really torque those things down, as the head and block expanded due to heat, the studs/bolts would either become stretched or pull out of the block all together, destroying the head seal. So they torque them to a certain torque in order to provide sufficient clamping force to keep the seal of the head gasket while cold, while leaving enough room for the head and block to expand when heated so that the studs aren't damaged. What happens is that when you floor the throttle with the engine cold, that low clamping force will allow some combustion gas under pressure to seep between the gasket and the metal surfaces. Doing this once or twice or a few times won't damage the head gasket, but doing it all the time will cause a spot to weaken and eventually the superheated gas will breach the seal and just like an earthen dam breaking, the head gasket will be quickly ruined. So yes, you can do a compression test when cold. But while the gasket will hold that tiny amount of pressure, if you force the gasket to try to seal against hot combustion gasses under pressure while cold, you WILL destroy it. -In your case, I highly recommend you purchase a book on reciprocating engines. I had a class in college at Embry-Riddle in which we discussed exactly these sorts of things, blown head gaskets et cetera. Oh yeah, fuck you very much by the way-

[@DanielJohnson-ec8rk]

@@Flies2FLL hey idiot? TTL head bolts. Made to stretch upon installation not when at operating temperature.

[@genedunn9283]

Reminds me of my sons truck. An ‘07 Tacoma club cab 2.7 that I bought from a friend who was the original owner. Bought it 5 years ago with 261K on it needing a head gasket. Only issues were: 1)He’d driven it quite a while with the bad gasket and steam damaged the head and 2)Toyota had a pending recall to replace the frame due to a potential to rust (there was no major frame rust and the body was perfect). We had Toyota replace the frame (and a bunch of associated items) for free and I picked up an engine from a wrecked truck with only 25K on it and dropped it in. That was more than 100K ago and she still runs like new. Best part was the engine only cost $2500 and I was able to do the job myself at home. Nice simple truck to work on!

[@stevenatwater7298]

I see both sides of the scenario. I would hate to be the shop / mechanic who does a $5-6k head gasket repair. Only to find that the short block had a crack or other unseen damage. And the customer is back mad as heck. When you can replace it with a sound used engine that will last the customer several years (or at least past the warranty time). No right or wrong here just a lot of $$$$ - moral, don't let your engine overheat... even if it is a Toyota!

[@michaeldunagan8268]

Wizard give the customer the option to avoid the risk of a bad bottom end-it was the third and last final option. But it cost $4,000 to 6,000 more to alleviate this risk. I don't remember the Wizard guaranteeing that the small block would not fail, but his recommendation that he could not find anything wrong should be enough for the customer to save the money.

[@MysteryScienceGaming]

I want to see a video of this job! You should detail it for everyone since it is such a rare problem.

[@CJColvin]

The Toyota Tacoma is one tough truck, also that 2.7L 4 cylinder engine will outlast any EcoBoost engine Ford makes with ease.

[@King_TuTT]

why do people buy 4-cyc engines on trucks? I just don't get it. and its a 2x4. I think I know why. the owner is a cheap ass. LOL

[@MrBeefsnorkel]

You start off the video shaming the last shop quoting a used motor with a tone of voice that implies they didn't know what they were talking about, "why can't i just replace the gasket omg!!!" then 13 minutes later you quickly conclude that actually, it was a pretty logical repair to quote and the price was about right and glossed right over it From one LLC to another, that's not a great look

[@tomlau6117]

$6000 for head gasket ? ha ha ha!! $2000 for parts and $4000 for the labor ? $200 per an hour? If you make $200 per hour, your Yearly salary would be $416,000

[@JavierCR25]

Why on earth do automakers still rely on an absolutely quiet needle to tell you when the engine is about to catastrophically fail, yet they have warnings with loud noises when the windshield washer fluid is low!!??

[@schadlarry]

$175/hr shop rate in the middle of KS? That's up there for an independent mechanic.

[@pokettomonsta]

a lot of people talk about we need more mechanics like him or where can they find people like him, remind yourself that he mostly works with high profile and or volume kind of customer, not your everyday joe, or at least people who are willing to pay for his services. and that he charge for diagnostics, where I work at, whenever we tell the customer there is a $80 diagnostic fee, most of the customers are being turn down by that, like they don't even want to pay for it but wants the car to be fix and us to magically know what's wrong with it, so most of the people maybe even you guys wants people like him but cannot even afford him, aren't willing to pay for this type of services specially Indians and Pakistanis

[@forreststrong797]

I remember doing quite a few head gaskets on the old toyota 4 cylinder engines like the 22re even the 20r 22r etc.. those seemed to commonly blow head gaskets ive done more than i can count. I even had one beater truck i took the head off of and replaced a rod and piston too with a used one from the wrecking yard no new parts other than gaskets and seals and miscellaneous and ive never done anything like that before usually im super picky but that was fun for a change i paid 50 dollars for the truck and cobbled it together over a weekend for like 150 or 200 dollars including oil and everything and that sucker ran and ran for years i saw it driving around for a very long time. I ended up giving the truck to someone and they used it to run around for their little coffee shop cafe thing it was one of the funky old 2 wheel drive dually supposed 1 ton pickups so it was pretty recognizable i wouldn't be surprised if it was still running around with one re-homed adopted piston. Lol.

[@FlyingAxel1010]

The missing option on the steering wheel might be cruise control

[@mixedboi]

I think there is a stock under the wiper stock, like VW. You can see it in the inside tour.

[@FlyingAxel1010]

@@mixedboi Yeah you are correct !

[@dennisnichols2411]

Something tells me that working on the 22RE in my '86 4Runner might be at least slightly less pricey than this 2.7. Not that I'd mind a 2.7 manual regular cab to run around in.

[@dc6233]

Back around 2000 I remember putting a head gasket, water pump and timing chain, etc in my 88 Toyota 4x4 4cyl for under 500$. 20 hours seems like an incredibly high amount of labor hours, but, that's what the book says...

[@gorak9000]

I did head gaskets on my GM 6.5L diesel last year - parts cost was about $1200, almost half of which was machine shop cost to resurface the heads and install some sleeves for a known issue (and they cleaned all of the EGR guck out of the intake too - they had to put it in the hot tank 3 times he said). I replaced a lot more than I needed to while I was in there - new glow plugs, new radiator hoses, new water pump - I took the injectors apart, cleaned them, and inspected the internal parts under a microscope, etc etc. It took me quite a while, but the only cost for the labor was a bunch of swearing, and rolling around on the driveway taking the exhaust apart so I could get the heads off with the exhaust manifolds attached.

[@ShaunMMX]

There's alot more stuff on a 2013 compared to an 88, newer cars are alot more complicated when it comes to repairs.

[@super20dan]

i carry an extra gallon of coolant/water in all my vehicles as i know what happens if you over heat todays engines. this owner should have kept an eye on his temp gauge and checked under hood more often

[@Bdub1952]

Really looking forward to the follow up video on this one.

[@Jursaw]

Your shop rate is $175 an hour? Thats higher than local dealership. Good for you that you can get that much and have so many customers!

[@trentryan27]

He can charge that because his expertise and his guys who are certified to work on high ends like Farrari and Bentley

[@newman5924]

Yeah sounds like that should be a high-end car rate, not toyota tacoma rate

[@flight2k5]

@@newman5924that’s the cool thing about capitalism. You have choices

[@CxJason]

Toyota owners don’t do maintenance.

[@antonpandoursky9790]

With this mileage, I don't think it's worth it.About an year ago I changed a head gasket on a 15 litter diesel Detroit DD15 for $4400 and $6000 for this junk?Never!

[@michaeldunagan8268]

Yah- -I wrote in an earlier response to a comment that I think it's only 12 hours to pull the comments and 14 out of my 2000 Freightliner Century and the put another one in. And I'm pretty sure Gantry crane or a 3-ton cherry picker is required to pull the engine out.

[@21Piloteer]

Luckily the owner and Wizard don't give hoot what you think.

[@marshalmagooo3899]

Toyota... wow one of our engines blew a headgasket.... Subaru....hold my beer

[@Jumalten001]

Wizard and a Taco, what more could you want in a Vid?

[@michaeldunagan8268]

Showing us how the 20 hours to change this head gasket is done.

[@terrysennhenn896]

Made my day hearing this. I have a 2020 tacoma extended cab with a 2.7. Never has been in the salt. Garaged all winter. I drive my corolla in the winter time

[@joesmith3908]

I do the same with my 21 tundra. Drive my accord in the salt , tundra stays in the garage for ab 3 months.

[@Land_Raver]

These 2.7s also have oil consumption issues in addition to the common head gasket failure.

[@kellydoyle7833]

This video could be the manual for 4cyl Tacoma ownership, and the story of my life. Right down to the u-joints. I differed coolant change on my 05 5spMT pre-runner, inevitable overheating was misdiagnosed.we replaced fan, but damage was done. Went through same analysis of options, new&used market , and decided to drop in remanufactured short block, available summer 2020, and a new clutch. $7500 ,labor about $100/hr. All the recall work had been done including new frame & leaf springs, so it made sense. I think it's made dollars too. I have 28k on new motor,165k total on the truck and I plan on keeping it forever. The prospect of such major repair can be daunting, but often times is the way to go, especially if you have the advice of a wizard! Keep em serviced and keep on trucking.

[@kellydoyle7833]

Deferred

[@topgunne12]

I gotta tell ya, if I ever had to take my truck into the shop, even if it broke down - I would try to clean that bay a little bit before I brought it in to you.

[@enjoyingend1939]

My 1993 discovery with the 4 cylinder gasoline engine also had a blown head gasket. However it never overheated unless under high load. It did pump loads of pressure into the cooling system and burst a radiator hose. I suspect the lack of overheating is because of how massive the radiator is compared to the engine (the radiator is basically the same as the one on the v8 models). After getting the head gasket done she's not overheating even when under high load so that's good. Edit: my disco also had a failed water pump when i got it so... coincidence? I think not!

[@stomper2582]

They don’t make a Tacoma with a V8. 😧

[@laurat1129]

@@stomper2582 I believe the OP here is talking about his Land Rover Disco.

[@throwback19841]

​@@laurat1129yes and specifically the issue of overheating only occuring under load when there is more pressure in the cooling system to push through the damaged head gasket, so still relevant.

[@mikemike690]

@@laurat1129 they never made a 4 cylinder gasoline engine for a discovery 1

[@laurat1129]

@@mikemike690 FFS, read the 1st comment in this thread! Then tell it to the OP w/the LR Disco, not me.😑

[@ajr993]

Ms. Wizard's breathing sounds very labored, is she ok?

[@kcraptor82]

I also have an 2013, but mine is the 4.0L V6 and that is a way better engine. Not sure why Toyota even bothered putting these 4cyl engines in this model? Most of their 4cyl engines got shit gas mileage and were pointless in most trucks and SUV's.

[@houseofno]

Sure. There's 277k on this engine that runs and drives on this truck. Right. Worthless lump. Let's dump it.

[@EvenRookiesCanWrench]

The problem is not many can just come up with 6k for their vehicle repair

[@boriss.861]

First I'm in the UK so these are not sold. The Tundra looks a beast!

[@md2k8]

This, 2013 Toyota Tacoma with the four-cylinder engine needs a lot of work sometimes.

[@jynxclover2996]

Well let's see, new car wizard video that I can watch anytime or the "live scotty Kilmer feed" that also airs at 12...car wizard it is. Not a tough choice 😂

[@JSFGuy]

Likewise, tough decision.

[@mrfiftyeight4512]

Wow 2100$ in Nebraska!

[@JDMHaze]

$9000 for a used junkyard motor is robbery

[@WillieJu]

Dont kid yourself wizard, toyotas break a lot more than 1%

[@jaydee3046]

The CA governor signed a bill which requires new vehicles to be EV only. If this goes into effect, older cars will be worth it to spend money on more than you are seeing now. If I had the room for storage, I would be saran wrapping a few and wait for the day it really gets tight used car wise.

[@quicksilver462]

I think you can pretty much guarantee eventually CA will sign a bill to BAN all petrol cars from the roads, no matter what year!! You guys keep voting the same way, and expect things to change for the better, and wonder why they dont.

[@whoknows8678]

Good luck even getting gasoline anywhere locally once that bullshit goes into full effect. That's the REAL long term problem.

[@schwags1969]

I ordered a 2022 Tacoma with that exact intent, I do use it for work though. Strange times, CA is a bit messed up with its timing, it will bite them in the ass. And why are so many people leaving CA 😉

[@MattsRageFitGarage]

@@whoknows8678 Somehow I don't think the big oil companies will bend over and take that, they love their profits.

[@whoknows8678]

@@MattsRageFitGarage They won't have a choice.

[@Az56818]

Replace water pump some head gasket stop leak and a for sale sign 😂😂

[@MrSchijtzooi]

Sorry to say but the interior review I do not care for. Always jump it. Thanks

[@jerrybohringer4894]

The 4 cylinders are harder to work on and take out than the V6. Watch the Toyota expert on his channel. They are the worst To take out..

[@namegoeshere2903]

You'll have to specify for what work would take longer. You can change all 4 spark plugs in less than 15 mins on a Toyota 4 cyl. Loads of room in the engine bay.

[@Brandn43]

That’s a very nice truck! Hope all goes well! Tacoma pride! 🙌

[@coloradoboo1071]

So rare to see this engine removed…would love a video!! (Hint hint)

[@derrickodyes1934]

Cant think of which is more boring a interior tour or driving a toyota

[@dennisfahey2379]

200,000 on a Toyota is the break in period. The interior plastics will fall apart before the engine does.

[@bobcook8576]

The engine fell apart. Huh?

[@Dusty_Bottoms_]

Insanity, a gasket.....$6000. I'll fix it myself. Thank you

[@michaeldunagan8268]

Yah: you can rip a Cummins n14 semi truck engine out of a 2000 Freightliner Century and put another one in in just 12 hours.... And this involves a Gantry crane or at least a 3-ton cherry picker. But there's not much competition for head gasket jobs because Pep Boys at Midas and car wrecks and et al. won't do a job like this.

[@speedyme200]

Jasper engines? Oh gosh ive heard there remanufactured engines are garbage