OVERLANDING - OFF-ROAD VS COMFORT? A new way of choosing a truck.

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@andysparks8245
@andysparks8245 5 жыл бұрын
But I haven't seen you tackle anything more challenging than a long gravel road in sooooo long
@explor360
@explor360 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed! The 79 series is an amazing vehicle....for those of us in the US where we can’t get one I have just bought a Jeep Gladiator and am slowly turning it into an overlanding vehicle based on the vehicles rented by Bushlore. However for truly extended travel (multi month) we have a pop up truck camper on a F-350 4x4 that is very comfortable and can be set up in less than 5 minutes. The discussion about inside vs. outside living is spot on. Thank you!
@c10196
@c10196 5 жыл бұрын
think yourself lucky you don't get the Agricultural 70 series in USA. bloody uncomfortable for long distance trips, everything needs to be replaced to get them to a barely acceptable level of comfort / capability. The HDJ80R with coils all round is far more comfortable and capable than a standard VDJ76/78/79 series V8.
@willyd-adv
@willyd-adv 5 жыл бұрын
I cant wait for the day you get a mwb Sprinter 4x4 or similar. I've built a few overlanders (9) and could never go back to a LR, LC or similar. The 4x4 vans really get you most places you would want to risk any overlander but also super comfortable, takes literally 2 second to set up (pull up, turn off engine, done), great on road and great fuel economy and range. My last one even had a kitchen that was inside but pulled out on slider to cook outside. Bed was fixed in place (like a race van), had a super simple and light inside and outside shower etc etc
@Frank-bh3cm
@Frank-bh3cm 5 жыл бұрын
A leafsprung 79 as comfort choice.... after you got rid of the last one for being too heavy... gold! 😂😂😂
@zane1os
@zane1os 5 жыл бұрын
Frank leaf springs, comfort 😂😂 Andrew should become a comedian.
@tuurgroen1449
@tuurgroen1449 5 жыл бұрын
Biggest compliment I can give you Mr st Pierre White: you are a huge inspiration! 'Quality and honesty', love your clips! Please continue with what you're doing
@66rover99
@66rover99 5 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the old saying -- you can have it fast, good or cheap, but only 2 out of the 3. Everything we do is a compromise. I would toss in a lot of the tips from Paul Marsh from your last set of videos regarding bush mechanics. Whatever your choice is, you also need to have the ability to limp it home afterwards. If you only concern yourself with comfort vs. offroad ability you may find yourself very uncomfortable and beyond easy access to repairs because some inexplicable electronic comfort gizmo let you down. That's why I like what you've been doing on the 20 year old truck project.
@goomtoob8714
@goomtoob8714 5 жыл бұрын
love the channel, how ever at times it seems it's just a race to get from one point to another without actually enjoying many spots for any amount of time along the way.
@scottcampbell2836
@scottcampbell2836 5 жыл бұрын
Need to pretend you are broken down and explore the local area.
@defendermodsandtravels
@defendermodsandtravels 5 жыл бұрын
Follow Roaming the Outback's travels and see how to appreciate the scenery.
@roryblake3232
@roryblake3232 5 жыл бұрын
@@scottcampbell2836 or use a land rover, no need to pretend.
@dg1019
@dg1019 5 жыл бұрын
Why do I get the feeling that if you asked Andrew what time it was he would explain how a clock worked.
@roryblake3232
@roryblake3232 5 жыл бұрын
From 1st principles including materials and philosophy.
@simonodell2103
@simonodell2103 4 жыл бұрын
He does waffle on ...
@benwiles7433
@benwiles7433 4 жыл бұрын
And also what time is and what time zone.
@gzahnd
@gzahnd 5 жыл бұрын
Great set of things to think about. If you had to choose something in the US for these same criteria, what would it be? (Also, I noticed the slip at 1:10 when you said, “Land Rover.” ) :-)
@sheldonmurphy6031
@sheldonmurphy6031 5 жыл бұрын
He will always have love for the Land Rover ! Lol I noticed that also !!
@Tanner731
@Tanner731 5 жыл бұрын
tray bed on your preferred brand pickup with a camper from alu cab or four wheel camper. possibly a jeep gladiator but id wait to see how those go for another model year
@DonegalOverlanding
@DonegalOverlanding 5 жыл бұрын
@@Tanner731 no way are the Alucab campers anywhere near big enough given his descriptions.
@geraldswain3259
@geraldswain3259 5 жыл бұрын
There is only one ve_hic _le for you Amuricans , I would recommend you all bought Mahindra's .
@Tanner731
@Tanner731 5 жыл бұрын
@@geraldswain3259 mahindras are not road legal in the usa so that would rule those out. but swapping the mahindra shit into a cj 5 with a vin that can be registered for road use would work
@Shredders2006FJR
@Shredders2006FJR 5 жыл бұрын
I should have added, I am at the stage in life for my golden years build and was in a quandry. You have made given my decision true direction. Spot on! I thank you for your experience, wisdom and the willingness to share your knowledge. Forever indebted!!
@defendermodsandtravels
@defendermodsandtravels 5 жыл бұрын
I understand that if you are using KZbin as a business platform then the choice of vehicle makes a suitable subject for a video series. For the rest of us, just buy a competent 4x4, make the essential mods / upgrades and then focus on the travel. IMO it doesn't matter if things aren't 100% right if you are visiting wonderful places and having great experiences. Furthermore I can't be bothered to change a vehicle regularly - if it works then keep it, make refinements periodically and run it till it expires. After nearly 20 years in my ownership my old bus is finally turning into the vehicle I want so it'd be daft to change it now. Or am I missing something?
@carholic-sz3qv
@carholic-sz3qv 5 жыл бұрын
Some people actually think very different than you that's how it is, he just prefer to try new and different things and I like that
@defendermodsandtravels
@defendermodsandtravels 5 жыл бұрын
@@carholic-sz3qv And that's completely fine by me. However there are a number of commentators here who mention the budget and I suspect they are on my wavelength. There's room for all approaches.
@davidwarren4569
@davidwarren4569 5 жыл бұрын
I’m with you son. Us mere mortals with limited income perfect our vehicles at our own expense. My 2005 79 series Ute with canopy almost perfect.
@defendermodsandtravels
@defendermodsandtravels 5 жыл бұрын
@@davidwarren4569 I don't know about you but I find it very satisfying. Start with a tired old vehicle which is quite unsuitable for the job and work at it with persistence until it's right. You get tremendous commitment to the thing and have so many memories of trips (both good and bad) that you just don't want to change.
@Shredders2006FJR
@Shredders2006FJR 5 жыл бұрын
One of THE most helpful, educational and ENLIGHTENING videos you have ever made! at least for me. THANK YOU MASTER WHITE!!!
@swidahooverlanding2867
@swidahooverlanding2867 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for you points of view on a perfect build. It is always hard to find that sweet spot. Everybody has their own ideas on what they want. It usually takes years till they finally figure it out what they truly want. Sometimes it will change and what was what you want yesterday is not what you want today. Keep up the good work. Looking forward to seeing/talking to you next year. George.
@peeyoobikhunter2312
@peeyoobikhunter2312 5 жыл бұрын
Sweet spot, one name, JEEP.
@swidahooverlanding2867
@swidahooverlanding2867 5 жыл бұрын
@@peeyoobikhunter2312 well that is what I drive.
@natethuli
@natethuli 5 жыл бұрын
I really love your through process and insights - the result of many years of passionately exploring the 4x4 overloading world. Another great video
@anbu999
@anbu999 5 жыл бұрын
Land Rover 70 Series... he still love his ex
@ViDiaz
@ViDiaz 5 жыл бұрын
Lol I also heard that 👀👂🏼
@WADZUP
@WADZUP 5 жыл бұрын
He did love his Defender as well eh.
@danielquiroz9375
@danielquiroz9375 5 жыл бұрын
hahahahah....that was so funny !
@ghosttownsentinel5288
@ghosttownsentinel5288 5 жыл бұрын
Obviously, before the first cup of coffee to wake the brain up
@888johnmac
@888johnmac 5 жыл бұрын
lol, glad i'm not the only person who heard that
@TheTMog
@TheTMog 5 жыл бұрын
If i would venture a guess: A Sportsmobile or MB Sprinter sounds like to one for you Andrew. Whatever you decide, you have been an inspiration to me. I am currently converting a '89 MB G-wagon (230GE) into an overlander. Replacing the 2.3L petrol engine with a OM606 from a '99 MB 300E for high torque and fuel range, adding an extra fuel tank to get to 1000+km (hopefully). Also converting the single rear door into NATO spec barn door layout for accessibility as you have on your Cruiser. Thanks for all the advice, builds and story times throughout the last decade.
@jensbaufeldt7543
@jensbaufeldt7543 5 жыл бұрын
TDK van der Leij I am hoping to do this myself soon
@greghoughton5993
@greghoughton5993 5 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this video immensely. Can't wait for the next one. This series and your 20 yr. old vehicle series is right up my alley.
@normanchan2001
@normanchan2001 5 жыл бұрын
"I want a camper"....... code for Im getting too old for this $hit.
@zacpernice460
@zacpernice460 5 жыл бұрын
I was literally thinking the exact same thing!
@Tanner731
@Tanner731 5 жыл бұрын
alu cab camper + flat bed pickup and be done with it
@zonta71
@zonta71 5 жыл бұрын
Wanting to sleep in comfort after having a rough day exploring etc isn't a code for getting older. It's called using your noodles. The more experience you have the easier your system gets.
@maverick2242
@maverick2242 5 жыл бұрын
bibi kola For Overlanding that is pretty dam good re comfort, it is not a std Rtt it’s in built listen to what Andrew said, I tend to agree with the others, it’s my impression and also based on my own father who is a BBoomer with the same issues, he’s had so many different vehicles for touring it does my head in, always changing but never improving, it’s like looking for the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. seems to be a thing once you hit the mid 60s on, for Overlanding Andrews 78 was as good as I have seen, Id probably be different but as a tourer to me it seemed one of the best laid out, it’s not like he lives out of it, he had a home a base, be interesting to see how this goes.
@willreed6231
@willreed6231 5 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree more Norman lol
@mavericmorph5358
@mavericmorph5358 5 жыл бұрын
6x6 79 land cruiser it is then. With a full length, pop up top pod on the back. Maybe even with extendable side pods too?
@ScottyBennitone
@ScottyBennitone 5 жыл бұрын
Right now I have a wrangler but i plan on trading it for a tacoma and pop up camper top within the next couple of years . Like you said the off road ability is not so important to me anymore as much as the comfortability while camping .
@moondog573
@moondog573 5 жыл бұрын
do yourself a favor and get a frontier, or a tundra, the tacoma is hot garbage.
@DirtShy
@DirtShy 5 жыл бұрын
Like your idea, I got the Tacoma and setting it up for a fourwheel camper, I believe it's a good balance for comfort and offroad.
@ScottyBennitone
@ScottyBennitone 5 жыл бұрын
@@moondog573 yes sir ! thank you , internet stranger . consider it done.lol..
@moondog573
@moondog573 5 жыл бұрын
1) there is nothing comfortable about the tacoma. 2) except under very specific circumstances you're over GVWR running a fwc in a taco. 3) drum brakes. but hey, at least you know if toyota loses a law suit they will replace your frame....
@ScottyBennitone
@ScottyBennitone 5 жыл бұрын
@@moondog573 I am aware of the uncomfortable driving position . Its not that bad imo . Secondly payload is 1350 pounds, the camper top id be adding is 350 . Drum brakes , dont care really . Time tested and proven to work just fine for my needs. I am most comfortable knowing resale value and reliability are the highest for this class truck .
@Stefan-mg5gl
@Stefan-mg5gl 5 жыл бұрын
Well, the cooking outside has its boundaries. In Germany we do have occasionally horizontaly rain and hail and so on. And I don't want to prepare my food in a mosquito swarm or among flies. That is the reason that especially in Germany and Switzerland, Sweden and Denmark, Norway and Finnland they do built those offroaders and overlanders with indoor-kitchens with excelent ventilation systems. Yet I do know by experiance that it is a totaly different case in the most parts of Australia (and New Zeeland) at the most time of the year. Down Under it is way more easy to come along with just outdoor cooking.
@Zapo9668
@Zapo9668 5 жыл бұрын
I don't mean this in any offensive way, but do you really need the "offroad" capability that you speak of? In my Overlanding travels, most of the roads can be driven in 2x4 70% of the time and occasionally you need 4x4 and very rarely do you HAVE to use dual lockers? If you are doing rough 4x4 trails that's a different story. But for travelling, to me, the other variables are more important, like weight carrying capacity, fuel economy, reliability & comfort.
@zane1os
@zane1os 5 жыл бұрын
Dylan Hyslop I've seen 2wd doing the old telegraph track on cape York. You can go a hell of a long way in a 2wd if you know how to drive.
@JimmyStewpot
@JimmyStewpot 5 жыл бұрын
Dual lockers is an insurance policy in a similar context to having a winch and recovery gear. 99% of the time you don't need it, when you do it's a huge blessing. As an example we got rained on doing the Anne Beadle, severe downpours for days. It took us an additional week to get out, slow crawling, regular recoveries, often fully locked. You can't plan the weather. Do I tell people they need them? No, because most people don't go solo or go on the more remote tracks.
@Zapo9668
@Zapo9668 5 жыл бұрын
@@JimmyStewpot I do hear this argument, it sounds silly but lockers could save your life in an extreme scenario. In this case it's worth it. On the contrary though someone like my self I enjoy adventure and getting stuck on the odd occasion is all part of the fun..
@peterhasendonckx6314
@peterhasendonckx6314 5 жыл бұрын
Love the video! It's always a pleasure to see how you question everything and at the end you (and us!) have a clear view of things.
@LimestoneCoastCustoms
@LimestoneCoastCustoms 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely right up my Alley!! I've just started my current build (phase 1, without the pop top like yours but the plans are for phase 2 to be more camper based as you mention) After many years of off roading & camping I have found the exact right vehicle for us. Seats 5 adults (if need be) in comfort (like cruising in lounge chairs) Full wagon with twice the room of previous vehicles, very capable 4wd, but not too large, great power but surprisingly not too thirsty, uses less fuel than our over weight V6 mid size 4wd & it is pretty cost effective as a dedicated rig. Like you, hate towing (but sometimes do, but not for accommodation) but didn't want a truck based rig or large American "truck" as they call them. I bought a 1999 Suburban which honestly does not have a much larger footprint than a Holden Commodore wagon but as mentioned, not as large as the current day American trucks but larger than a Landcruiser etc (Plenty of room for passengers, unlike in dual cabs) I will be removing the large rear windows & replacing them with gull wings. Easy access to the extra room.
@h.b.1457
@h.b.1457 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Andrew! What about Nissan Patrol Y61 restyle and TLC100??? Will be good to hear your opinion about that cars!
@chiefsquattingbull7624
@chiefsquattingbull7624 5 жыл бұрын
For me, an AWD, high-roof van is just about the best compromise. An IVECO daily chassis build-up is a good consideration, too.
@nickgood8166
@nickgood8166 5 жыл бұрын
A lightweight pop-top camper mounted directly on the chassis of a twin cab bakkie/ pick up....Yup, that's the way to go, I'd emphasise lightweight construction. I'd go further. I'd have a bolt on camper with its own jackable legs so you can drive out from under it when its being used. That allows you all sorts of options, leave it at public campsithgt, go for a game drive and leave your camp etc. Also you can have a tray-back that mounts the same wa,y so you can use your vehicle in that mode.
@adepease6399
@adepease6399 5 жыл бұрын
May I suggest looking at earth cruisers based on iveco daily for inspiration. Live in and out, fits in a standard container and is brilliant off road.
@woodsyhere4616
@woodsyhere4616 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, looking forward to this. Interested to see how your going to keep the weight off the rear axles of a dual cab! I foresee a lot of cutting and chassis extensions. Good luck Andrew, hope you get your warm & fuzzy this time around👍 Can’t wait to share the journey.
@MH-ls1xi
@MH-ls1xi 5 жыл бұрын
Can we get a link to those recovery track mounts
@anthonymorris479
@anthonymorris479 5 жыл бұрын
M H check the troopy build series playlist. They’re actually a fold down table as well.
@MH-ls1xi
@MH-ls1xi 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate
@ati573
@ati573 5 жыл бұрын
My wife's comfort is very high too, my offroading is high, yep Jeep jlu Rubicon was our best option, can't get what you have in the states, so Ursa mnor was added for o our jeep and upgraded suspension. I agree with you on all your points. Ya we did the list
@L-lp9fl
@L-lp9fl 5 жыл бұрын
Flexibility is the name of the game and to adapt with what you have, feels like a achievement and not disappointment. Thanks for presenting a proper scale which all can use if wanting.
@4x4overlandSprinter
@4x4overlandSprinter 5 жыл бұрын
Andrew, as always I agree with you! But in my non-flexible list were also: 1) the overal dimensions (a lot of narrow streets in old villages and verry narrow tracks - originaly mule tracks - in the Alpes, Pyrenees and Morocco) , 2) weight category (more and more little roads and tracks in Europe are limited under 3,5 ton) and 3) turning radius ! After 2 years with my new concept I'm now just back from 1 month in Morocco and I can't tell you how happy I am with my short Oberaigner Sprinter, with 33" wheels, permanent 4x4, extra low gearing transfercase and 3 diff locks. It tackled all the tracks I wanted to do, even if the locals at first sight thought it was impossible was a van. This Sprinter did very well off road, imho it is the limit in length, width and height. It has the same length as a Toyota HiLux (5m25) and turns shorter than a LR Defender 110. For this reasons for me the Iveco Daily 4x4, the Defender 130 and the Toyota LC 70's dual cab pickup fell off my shortlist. I have a portable kitchen so that in under 2 minutes I can chose to cook inside or outside. And I have a fixed bed, 200 liters diesel on board and 19,4 miles/gallon. For more details you can see on my YT channel 4x4overlandsprinter.
@damienmorris2903
@damienmorris2903 5 жыл бұрын
How about a Hino 817 4wd with a small pop top on the back. Super singles and excellent fuel economy. 6m long so parkable and easy to maneuver. Tried to attach a photo but it wont work.
@tharindu6
@tharindu6 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Andrew , would you be able to do a overlanding set up for a soft roader ? ( mitsubish outlander ) or similar . For viewers like me on a limited budget ? Thanks for all your great videos !
@sheldonmurphy6031
@sheldonmurphy6031 5 жыл бұрын
Im in the same boat sir :) For myself, I have considered the Outlander, but resulted in choosing my first love, the 95 Montero Limited. I would love some ideas about cheaper ways to overland / offroad. I have a special needs kiddoe, so soft beds and space is a must. Id probably need to do a tow-behind camper, then drop it to go exploring with the family.
@pauls466
@pauls466 5 жыл бұрын
Don't ask about the outlander
@tharindu6
@tharindu6 5 жыл бұрын
Paul S why not ?
@pauls466
@pauls466 5 жыл бұрын
@@tharindu6 he did a review on the outlander a while ago and wasn't positive enough for some people , and had the whole south African Mitsu lovers all over him
@wikkidme755
@wikkidme755 5 жыл бұрын
Andrew doesn’t do limited budget, only the best will do.
@aaad2341
@aaad2341 5 жыл бұрын
hello have you considered having the side of your truck side out like what is on some caravans it 2x the usable area just food for thought cheers mate
@jamesmac7040
@jamesmac7040 5 жыл бұрын
Andrew, not going to lie that I'm really looking forward to your extended chassis landcruiser build. However. I feel like you've completely overlooked the Merc Sprinter 4x4. Wider than the skinny Iveco Daily wheel track. Better fuel economy than the Troopy. Available in different lengths and heights. Rear/front/central locker option. Pop top option available. A healthy modification market. Capable offroad and comfortable. Long wheelbase means weight distributed evenly front to back. Surprising turning radius. Let's be honest Daily/UniMog earth cruiser are expensive, bulky and thirsty. Troopy is exceptional but requires outdoor lifestyle. The myth of expensive parts and unreliability are no longer valid. Times have changed. I feel the Merc fits the Australian need well and should be considered.
@blbl8777
@blbl8777 5 жыл бұрын
Very good video. There are many people out there who only focus on one aspect of their vehicle negating all other scales.
@harveysmith100
@harveysmith100 5 жыл бұрын
I met a couple in Malawi in 1991, Rhina and Amanda. They had driven all the way from Europe across Africa in a 40 series LandCruiser, short wheel base soft top. It just shows what can be done.
@JimmyStewpot
@JimmyStewpot 5 жыл бұрын
I drive a Unimog in very challenging terrain, the height is very rarely the issue despite what most would think. I do have brush bars to protect the windscreen and roof just incase. The only real drawback is the track width. The turning circle is amazing particularly for size. Fuel efficiency is amazing particularly for the size, twin 240l tanks will comfortably do 2000km in 4wd at around 8t, that's accounting for around 200km of remaining reserve range (minimum). In terms of height, I carry a saw and Ive never needed to use it for low hanging trees and branches and Ive traveled all over the outback, northern Queensland, all up the east coast of Australia. Track width is a problem because most tracks have channels/grooves for family cars. Also changing a tire is a pita. This is not intended to criticize your thought process, if it comes across as such sorry. I am only trying to share my experience with larger vehicles.
@alexshaykevich509
@alexshaykevich509 5 жыл бұрын
Unimogs are amazing. Did you buy yours at auction/ex-military?
@patlaguda4347
@patlaguda4347 5 жыл бұрын
What about rebuilding an EX Australian army Land Rover 110 6x6, cheap to buy, pretty bullet proof, big tray, true 6x6, wide body......?
@Martian74
@Martian74 5 жыл бұрын
I like the Trayon slide-on camper. It sets up in a minute or so and you can do everything inside. You can even put on the legs and drive away with just the light vehicle. Plus you don’t pay rego like a caravan or trailer does.
@mattluszczak8095
@mattluszczak8095 5 жыл бұрын
Hey andrew how about a 6x6 70 series with pop top . Or ute with slightly wider than body camper in the rear but still 6x6
@fartymud
@fartymud 5 жыл бұрын
For the average North American outdoors oriented person and 4x4 enthusiasts,It’s all about how to bankroll the costs of fuel and equipment and vehicle with a annual income under 100 grand. A budget oriented build is what the majority is aiming for. It’s going to be a most challenging build that Andrew has upcoming for his requirements and I am looking forward to his solutions. Love this channel !!
@lachie8888
@lachie8888 5 жыл бұрын
A dual cab 79 series as a camper that improves the comfort of ASP’s current 78 troopy... I just can’t see it, mainly because the dual cab and wheel base situate too much load behind the rear axel. - Better option would have been a single cab 79. - Obvious solution with the dual cab is to chop the chassis and extend 300mm. - Expensive solution is a 6x6 conversion which we know Andrew has been keen on for years so perhaps that’s in the works? - Best option, in my humble opinion, would have been a coil sprung, triple diff locked, higher payload, military spec GWagen W461 cab chassis which is available in Oz for sub-$100K. That’s less than the cost of a 79 with a chop and GVM upgrade. ASP is one of the only YouTubing overlanders to know just how good the G is, so I’m scratching my head as to why this wasn’t the go. Hopefully it was at least one of the 5 in contention!? Let’s see how he goes but we’ve seen ASP back out of the dual cab before... I can’t see it being a “comfort improvement” on the troopy.
@il_DonGelato
@il_DonGelato 5 жыл бұрын
What do you think about the trayon campers? They are pretty light but it takes some time to put them up ...
@44Dell
@44Dell 5 жыл бұрын
Andrew riddle me this. Is it still overlanding if you pull/ haul a camper for the first half day, then park the trailer or camper and explore an area near the camper or trailer with the second half of the day? Consider how much more usable "kit" and repair equipment could come along with you. Adding a Timbren suspension to the Trailer where by one could level the trailer with ease while you are out in the brush, take load off the truck for more hard core travel once the trailer is left behind for half the day.
@eyeswideopen7450
@eyeswideopen7450 5 жыл бұрын
Haha nice Andre you put pictures from the PickUpBackCompany in there. They really have interresting products. Here in Europe we just have coulder climate. That might be the reason you may want to life inside your vehicle.
@gaj5701
@gaj5701 5 жыл бұрын
For a mid size, heavy duty overlander it's very hard to go past the 70 series nowadays so no surprises you've gone for one. I realise you've got an association with QuikPitch but as an automotive design engineer I'd really have a look at what Mulgo are doing with their 80 series, as that style of integrated camper on the 70 series, which is common in Europe, fits the bill really well for both offroad & comfort. As for the troopy, the only thing I can see wrong with it was the approach of designing rear storage solutions first & using them as a leisure seating arrangement. Had you looked at making a comfy seat position first (ie. lower than your current one with a work desk you don't have to bend uncomfortably to get to for editing) & building storage into that you may have found a different experience in the rear. No matter, really looking forward to seeing the new build as it will be high quality as always 👍
@ekim72
@ekim72 5 жыл бұрын
You should put a decision tree up on your website with as many of the questions as you have. To give those who are doing this a good start. Great vid. Cheers.
@faksen13
@faksen13 5 жыл бұрын
There is a lot of Gelenderwagen 6x6 in Germany for sale, is those comfortable to drive?
@darthvader8433
@darthvader8433 5 жыл бұрын
I've driven from SW WA across to Birdsville, a month in Tassie, up to Cape York and now down to Melbourne on my way home. My 4wd is a GU wagon powered by a TD42 turbo, towing a Drifta camper trailer. It offers these advantages: A home base once you pick a camping spot. Built in water tanks (160lt), 300w solar, 200Ah lithium battery, Redarc manager30 system, hot water system, shower, pop top with 6" thick inner sprung QS mattress, fridge/freezer and camp kitchen. It also has a 270degree awning, compressor, air suspension and can be levelled from side to side. When I pull up I can be in bed in 1 minute. Camper weighs 1700kg max. Patrol has a rear locker, only used it once on Cape York. It's not everyone's perfect setup. But gee it's good for me!!
@gibbethoskins8621
@gibbethoskins8621 5 жыл бұрын
79 dual cab with a slide on camper is a pretty sweet spot. My brother runs one and it's awesome, still pretty capable off road with the right tires and sensible weight saving (pop top) fibreglass. Get some air bags and HD springs, good to go. Only downfall is the wheel track issue which is $$$ to fix.
@reanvanbergen7819
@reanvanbergen7819 5 жыл бұрын
Have you heard about the AHA 15 South African built camper. Its got it all. Would like you to give me your take on it as I am looking to buy one. It sets up in 15sec.
@espinela
@espinela 5 жыл бұрын
Love your channel mate, keep them coming!! Thanks. (Albert from Barcelona)
@vettracer85
@vettracer85 4 жыл бұрын
I wish you can install a Bundutec pop up tent next. Those Bundutec tents would be extremely impressive if you convert it to work like the one you have; which you can climb in from the inside. I love the window shades all around the bundetec.
@guyemmott4009
@guyemmott4009 5 жыл бұрын
Did Andy actually say Land Rover 70 Series @ 1:10...?
@kerrysmith8198
@kerrysmith8198 5 жыл бұрын
great vid mate and great clothing choice too lol
@eyeswideopen7450
@eyeswideopen7450 5 жыл бұрын
What brand and model is this at 10:13?
@morneharding
@morneharding 5 жыл бұрын
I know you do not like towing, but compromise on that, and have your Cruiser camper as is and tow a small offroad caravan with all your options for living in. Then you can park the caravan and do the offroad stuff also and live in relative comfort. Very interested to see your solution though on where you will be happy with a live in overlander with decent 4x4 capabilities.
@nawiribrahim
@nawiribrahim 5 жыл бұрын
Andrew, you look like you are leaning to a Patriot camper 6x6 right?
@TheAegisClaw
@TheAegisClaw 5 жыл бұрын
Andrew, excuse me if this is a stupid question. Where I'm coming from is as a motorcycle adventurer, not a 4x4 overlander. Why do you need a 600+ mile range? I ask because that range is essentially impossible on two wheels (some bikes with added jerrycans can get 400 perhaps) yet there's few places we cannot get (if any).
@TarrelScot
@TarrelScot 5 жыл бұрын
As always, a very logical "if this, then that" style of presentation which chimes with my own way of thinking. I think context and location are extremely important considerations, and inform where one places oneself on each of your columns. Up here in the far north of Scotland there are a couple of firms offering Defenders with rooftop tents, etc for hire (at very high prices). Some even state on their websites that they were inspired by travel in the African bush.The reality in Northern Scotland is very different. For a start, most of the publicly accessible roads are tarmac. Some are very steep and narrow, and not for the faint-hearted, but they don't require the technical off-roading abilities of many 4x4s. Next is the weather; four seasons in one day potentially, whatever the time of year. On the west coast Atlantic storms can bring in high winds and horizontal rain at short notice, guaranteed to get you wet no matter how big an awning you have. So, for me, flexibility is the key. I have a Toyota Regius with a minimal camper conversion, with an awning over the side door. Inside is a two-burner gas stove, a cool box and small sink. The four seats convert to two single beds. When a squall blows in I can watch the wild weather through the rain-streaked large windows and cook up a chilly or some soup. When the weather clears I can put the awning out and sit and cook outside on the braai if I want. The vehicle is small enough (narrower than my Freelander) to handle the Highland single-track roads with ease. As a photographer it gets me into location late or early in the day, in comfort, which is its prime objective. If I head for the Moroccan Sahara though ( a trip in the planning), I'll take the Freelander and Oztent!
@jesuswasahermetic5871
@jesuswasahermetic5871 5 жыл бұрын
2 door Rubicon and 5x8 pop-up trailer I built myself with a (bathroom, shower self contained n heated), kitchen, Foxwing awning tent system, Mock 1 hammocks and gear. Non refrig food in my jeep and I can travel anywhere and set camp in less than 10 mins with the 2 of us sharing chores. -debating on adding a 2nd Foxwing on the trailer for wrap around awnings.... Ps..pro with this setup - I'm ready to camp all year long as my trailer is in the garage n my jeep doesn't need spare tire n weight for use on daily trips.
@sebastianmirandasolis
@sebastianmirandasolis 5 жыл бұрын
I don't blame you ... once you have a Land Cruiser you want to continue having a Land Cruiser I have a feeling you're going to build a 6x6 79 series
@awildman69
@awildman69 5 жыл бұрын
G-Wagon professional chassis cab with Trayon's Tray-Tek for me. Love to get your thoughts on Trayon Andrew. Can't wait to see your solution
@mattimeo18
@mattimeo18 5 жыл бұрын
If i'm honest Andrew, I think your current LC is probably more capable that required to do the great touring of Australia. Most of our trips are about endurance and reliability, plus some ground clearance to both allow for some water crossing ability and rut/rough group protection. I have a 105 series with the 1HDT engine put in it and it has been turned into a Dual Cab. It works, but I could definitely increase both driving comfort and camping comfort next time round without changing the trips I can do.
@davidwebb372
@davidwebb372 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your approach to simplifying a complex "choice" - which perhaps is a in the end a compromise of compromises.
@Blastfence1
@Blastfence1 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent again! One could build a performance y comfort x graph with this information. I do want a camper top for my jeep one that you can open from the inside and not have to get out in the rain and cold...
@BikerBytes
@BikerBytes 5 жыл бұрын
What size are those tyres brah?
@AsherPardey
@AsherPardey 5 жыл бұрын
Love this video! Very informative and helpful, great things to think about! Thanks Andrew.
@ewingfox6459
@ewingfox6459 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video. I keep beating that drum, but nothing tops experience. Wish I had the luxury of buying a 79 Series here in the states (that old saw) but the lessons you provide in these chats are super transferable to what we do have available. We are currently tent campers, and I wish my car camping (overlanding??) setups were quicker - backpacking, we have camp set in 5 minutes and tea on the boil, but when i have the opportunity to bring STUFF, somehow setup balloons to over an hour! Trying to find a way to make it work for us without going full size truck and providing some of those creature comforts my wife has high on her list (bug free place to sit outdoors, a comfortable bed (Kodiak 8x10 Flexbow + air mattress! - 5 minute setup!) while my important thing is being able to cook efficiently and quickly after reaching camp. Starting to think that with my 4Runner, a pullout drawer that extends into a kitchen is the way to solve that problem, but can't wait to draw inspiration from your next build!
@TonkTheStonk
@TonkTheStonk 5 жыл бұрын
You have an obvious preference to Jap & Pom vehicles. My Jeep has never failed offroad or onroad. There are countless vids with people living out of their Jeeps.
@frozenragu
@frozenragu 5 жыл бұрын
Yeh but modern jeeps aren't as good for touring. Small
@grantkerr2971
@grantkerr2971 5 жыл бұрын
So relieved your sticking with the Tojo 70 series...can’t wait to see what the finished product looks like👍
@traviceo1075
@traviceo1075 5 жыл бұрын
Why did you abandon your last 79 Dual Cab build before building the last Troopy?
@steviedickins
@steviedickins 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video as ALWAYS. Could you do a video on the ground tent that you have experienced through out your travels? Cheers!
@samjohnson9894
@samjohnson9894 5 жыл бұрын
Ground-laying stuff, never before 'Tubed, Mr. White. Excellent!
@WellRigged
@WellRigged 5 жыл бұрын
Andrew, I'm wagering your going to build a 6x6 LC 79 dualcab with camper...you loved that one in Oman...and you can't stop thinking about it! DO IT!
@mattluszczak8095
@mattluszczak8095 5 жыл бұрын
Land rover 70 series..? Is that a series three?
@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080
@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080 5 жыл бұрын
I like your picks but I went with the middle ground. A 122" wheelbase F-150 FX-4. Shorter and lighter then the Gladiator with payload and towing capabilities like a Power Wagon. Better mileage then a Gladiator with a box that is longer and wider offering similar area for a camper system to what you may put in a Super Duty. I fully believe the best overlanding platform in the world is a "Half Ton Shorty".
@jshaw6600
@jshaw6600 5 жыл бұрын
Why not a 4x4 Mercedes Sprinter Van?
@aron2199
@aron2199 5 жыл бұрын
wheel base too long; a bit too tall; and lack of reliability both mechanically and structurally - its great for "overlanding"on sealed and good grade unsealed road though
@jusomebody3069
@jusomebody3069 5 жыл бұрын
In terms of off-road performance the 79 is average, near stock anyway. Leaf packs are heavy duty and as such will get you stuck sometimes. The rear track has to be fixed. It weighs more than a lot of other 4x4's. The turning circle is rubbish. Cant even get an auto. Leaf springs instead of coils. And simply refuses to flex without major works, even ifs cars flex more sometimes. notorious for lifting wheels constantly because of the lack of flex. Last but not least the alternator is low in the engine bay.
@ronaldodyra5799
@ronaldodyra5799 5 жыл бұрын
True that...
@The543075
@The543075 5 жыл бұрын
What about the LandCruiser 6x6?
@markbergman2342
@markbergman2342 5 жыл бұрын
Woawohowoho @ronald dahl... are u getting this? ~22:00 might be a hint he'll still end up with a LC79 DC
@WADZUP
@WADZUP 5 жыл бұрын
I've been struggling on this exact same topic or a very long time and will be excited for your final choice when will you be releasing the video?
@peterhanson5042
@peterhanson5042 5 жыл бұрын
I can see an Inveco 4x4 van on the short list, this would be my choice if I had to change my Defender 110 for a blank canvas 4x4 overland vehicle. .
@kichaa13
@kichaa13 5 жыл бұрын
The previous build started with a 79 and camper body, will you be considering the same camper or will it be a new one?
@fabienpics
@fabienpics 5 жыл бұрын
Good information thank YOU to spare you r experience. do you know the roof top tent ALPHA from Bush Company.... it is brend new model... i m in Canada... and i realy THINK To buy this model ( coming in USA dealers for 2020 ,) for my FJ CRUISER off road edit ... l love Land Cruiser buy in Canada no sale .... so i have fj cruiser great to for off road trip. Thank s and G'Day Mate . i love AUSTRALIA
@SIUDR7202
@SIUDR7202 5 жыл бұрын
Price price price price price! Is my biggest restriction!
@Jodokus_Rendentanz
@Jodokus_Rendentanz 5 жыл бұрын
Agree! You can have much more comfort without the lost off offroad capabilities. But you have to become a millionaire first. Or buy used stuff.
@SIUDR7202
@SIUDR7202 5 жыл бұрын
Even used can still be expensive. Just look at his Africa project.
@trent4439
@trent4439 4 жыл бұрын
Brand new gxl 76 series 68k
@rjl110919581
@rjl110919581 5 жыл бұрын
thank you for detail video how look at further overland tour in 4wd love my Isuzu nps 300 crew cab as big family transport and have the flex do want do as tour as range 1200 km in fuel on long trip
@mtnbikegeek1
@mtnbikegeek1 5 жыл бұрын
How about a 4wd Mercedes Sprinter based vehicle? In the US we have an RV like the Winnebago Revel 44E.
@eaglebearserv
@eaglebearserv 5 жыл бұрын
have you looked at the FiftyTen campers?
@standheizungenrehbein4575
@standheizungenrehbein4575 5 жыл бұрын
Hello Andrew, here a little Question from Germany... if you buy a new Troophy and you have only two Engine Options : V8 4.5 L Turbodiesel 1VD-FTV versus: V6 4.0 Petrol 1GR-FE, what is your first Opinion? I will be happy if you can write some words... Regards from me!
@lillebror1983
@lillebror1983 5 жыл бұрын
why not a Mercedes Sprinter based 4x4 RV?
@dalep-i4844
@dalep-i4844 5 жыл бұрын
Single cab 79. 300mm chassis extension. Possibly 6x6 conversion. Can’t wait to see the build
@Alexandreunuvar
@Alexandreunuvar 5 жыл бұрын
how many people with olso make the choice
@SiCrewe
@SiCrewe 5 жыл бұрын
Freudian slip at the start when you said "the Land ROVER 70 series is very, very good"? I'll be very impressed if you've persuaded JLR to produce an updated 101 Forward Control!
@markswanson2716
@markswanson2716 5 жыл бұрын
A Defender130 forward control... earthcruiser style
@timetogodoug
@timetogodoug 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Andrew, very good points to ponder!
@loganhutch5422
@loganhutch5422 5 жыл бұрын
I hope if you’re going 6x6 you go with Jmacx, even if you stay with a single axle they seem to be the leaders in gvm upgrade conversions for the 70 series. As for your living arrangement I think it’s a personal addition to a vehicle so you would have to go full custom made and with that finding a company that is happy to work with you in designing and or building to your exact requirements and not just a mass produced item. Weight is always a compromise but if built properly a heavy vehicle can still be a reliable overland vehicle, as you’ve already mentioned vehicles like the Iveco 4x4 are a great overlander and they are heavy.
@OxRashedxO
@OxRashedxO 5 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best builds I ever seen.
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