OVERLOADING OUR TRACTOR WAY BEYOND THE LIMITS! PROOF IN VIDEO.

When we put out the video about the unfortunate owners of that Bobcat tractor a few weeks ago, many were quick to blame him for 'overworking' his tractor. They were confident! But what does that even mean? Today we'll cover that concept and attempt to use our tractor beyond its limits and we'll show you what happens.
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[@JCWren]

Now we're going to see how many people complain that you didn't do the test correctly...

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Bring it on!

[@kavemanthewoodbutcher]

Bah.

[@Redneck_Ed]

People might be calling it overloading or overworking, but their definition is way more broad than just a lift capacity test. I'd say the more common so-called "overwork" issues are working outside of the operational specs of the machine. So that would include things like lifting max capacity with the left fork only (i.e. way unbalanced load bends your SSQA bracket or loader arms). Pulling your box blade along on hard pack in high gear with the rippers all the way down your foot to the floor max speed (snap a 3 point lift arm). Lifting max capacity all the time with no rear ballast (blow front axle seals or steering cylinder/brackets/axle pivot). Operating on a hill with no ballast and a high load in the bucket and rolling the tractor. Last one is not reading the operator manual and then you're surprised when you realize that engaging the diff lock at 7mph is bad for the tractor's health. In summary, Courtney is right. Everyone else is wrong, lol

[@gregcautrell1259]

Great video, and I agree with you as long as you figure in common sense. One thing I learned working in factories over 40 years is that you can't build anything so heavy duty that it can't be broken by someone doing something stupid.

[@justanotherviewer52]

Thanks Courtney. Hope you are ready for all the you tube experts telling you how you should have done the test.

[@GoodWorksTractors]

KZbin experts provide me with endless content 😂

[@Vaessen13]

Lols!!!

[@aaronstractorstuff7521]

You took the words right out of my mouth!!! 😆 What's the point of buying a tractor if you're not going to use it?!!!! 🤦‍♂️. 👍

[@GoodWorksTractors]

No kiddin!

[@martinmitchellhunter7087]

I love it when you call out stupid comments!

[@robertknapp8093]

Hi Courtney, thanks for your videos! On the Kubota, you can move the lift cylinder rear pin points down to the lower hole next to the cab. If you aren’t aware, that position is for max lift but reduce lift height slightly. The top is for height but less lifting capacity. 😊

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Yes, they've the power position and the max height position. I've never messed around with it though, haven't really had the need.

[@bertscwify]

Bravo! Thanks for the real world demonstration of how to overwork your tractor.

[@RockhillfarmYT]

Fantastic video. Great way to make a point. I believe that if I do something with my tractor that it is capable of doing then it shouldn’t break.

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Haha, that's a good way of putting it Brock

[@bradmiller6507]

Well the good news is that tractors as well designed machines keep most operator errors from harming the machine or the operator. The bad news is that it can lead to anticlimactic videos. Oh well. Good demonstration of what not to worry about.

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Hehe, imagine if the loader arms just snapped right off 😂

[@bradmiller6507]

@@GoodWorksTractors I paid my way through college fixing farm machinery. Almost all repairs were to replace parts that had just worn out through use but every once in a while a machine would come in where the owner had modified it so that it exceeded its design limits. Those were always the most interesting and expensive repairs.

[@GoodWorksTractors]

@@bradmiller6507 Haha, I bet! Probably was fun while it lasted...until it came time to pay that repair bill

[@Rusty-Metal]

Yes! You're videos have been spot on lately especially the tractor complaints recently! These overwork comments are so common in the sub compact tractor demographic. I think these guys come from craftsman lawn tractors. And many use their 25k wonder machine to move a yard of mulch, take their proud "I moved mulch" picture. Wash, wax and have a beer with their tractor and then give it a much needed break. Lol. It's all you see in the sub compact forums.

[@barelystablefarm7151]

Can't forget moving the garbage cans to the end of the driveway on rubbish day too!

[@joeysawdust]

Well Done Courtney! You learned us good! Nice job squashing those front tires on the Kubota!

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Haha, thanks Joey. Yeah, those tires squatted eh?

[@jameshinkle3160]

Excellent video my friend!!!! Great why to explain things

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Glad you liked it!

[@jeremyj612]

Haha, this one had me chuckling. Well done. And we all know the Bobcat guy just wasn’t stretching the tractor every day.

[@xenophonnl]

I do agree with you Courtney, although I also have forks on the back, and was using it to move some pallets, which it would lift up but not all the way, so while driving I could notice the bypass working, generating heat I would assume, I guessed it was oke for short time but might have become a problem if I used it to long like that. A solution if possible would also be to set the height to a height that it can handle, but I did not realize this immediately. The other thing I am wondering is how do people get there loader bent? By putting all the force on one side?

[@rp1645]

Thank you for the TEST. You always do such fine content. You show real world WORKING limits to subcompact.

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Very welcome, glad you enjoyed!

[@Bigtoolrack]

Great video really like the versa forks!

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Thanks Tim :)

[@brownnshiney]

It looks like your front tires on the Kubota are doing a little complaining about the heavy lift :) If you moved forward and turned with that load, I wonder if you might not encounter untoward issues. Nice, informative video, as usual.

[@billt881]

I dont know why but the covering of your face when you were trying to lift was freaking hilarious to me!!🤣

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Haha, thought it might explode! 😂

[@ProductiveRecreation]

Tractors cannot lift beyond their capacity, but you can get a bad pick and overstress the tractor. For example, getting under a boulder with one side of the loader and lifting all the load essentially on one side of the front axle… that comes down to the operator.

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Certainly. That's operator issues, but not overloading or overworking the tractor.

[@slowride55]

There are still things you can do as an operator that will damage a machine. Pulling a HST too hard in too high of a range, shutting down the machine full throttle after hours of hard use, driving with the park brake on, driving on hard pavement in 4wd repeatedly, etc.

[@GoodWorksTractors]

I talk about high range. You really can't do much pulling in high range as the tractor tells you it hates it. Either bogging down or stalling. Yes, those other items mentioned are abuse, but not overloading a machine.

[@mikerequa820]

Another great video Courtney!! I just enjoy ya'lls videos anything with tractors lol I bought a Agra Cat 25 serious horse power that's what it said well didn't have a loader so I bought a used compact loader had my neighbor install it that thing would lift anything I tried to pick up but broke front spindles 3 times guess it would lift more than it should have. decided to sell it n buy new 1526 Mahindra. Mahindra did same thing the summit did nothin if it was to heavy. Like the new forks those would be handy for sure. Thanks for sharing be safe have fun enjoy

[@roycebraman4311]

Really interested in your Yanmar stump bucket, I built my own a few weeks ago.

[@JohnThomas-gj2zg]

I would like to get that setup that you have on that tractor because I could really use it for a few good things

[@jimmcknight3021]

A good rule of thumb that I heard on Messick's channel on speed is L for loader work, M for mowing, and H for highway driving. Good illustration today.

[@GoodWorksTractors]

that's a handy reference, I like it

[@Jack-xy5xq]

It’s always fun to see people treat equipment like it’s a living.

[@GoodWorksTractors]

I don't know what that means, but thanks for watching!

[@Vaessen13]

​@@GoodWorksTractors I think he meant to say that it's funny to see ppl treat their tractor like a living thing. A tractor is a machine not a horse, so ppl should stop baby-ing them

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Ahh, got it. Like giving their tractors names? Haha!

[@barelystablefarm7151]

@@GoodWorksTractors I have a question, when a tractor is new do you need to feed it Gerber baby food or is diesel fuel sufficient?

[@On_The_Farm]

The problem starts when people adjust the bypass valve pressure to get more lift. Great video Courtney.

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Agreed

[@dougkline8327]

Awesome video. I laughed when you shielded your face. No way you can over work these things. Abuse, yes, and I'm guilty but we buy them to work them.

[@jdb5604]

Great video, as always. I agree that a tractor can only do what it will do, but respectfully, I think you missed the target of "over working" a piece of equipment. Operating anything near max capacity for long periods puts more stress on the equipment that light duty use. And if the equipment was made with lower quility materials, that stress is going to show up faster. I'm not saying that was the case with the Bobcat tractor you referred to, but just in general. All bearings and seals are not created equal.

[@GoodWorksTractors]

That gets back to the point I made in another video that these tractors have warranties for commercial work. There is nothing about them that is made for light duty like a craftsman lawn mower.

[@ticklemeorange8328]

@@GoodWorksTractors Hey now, easy on the Craftsman…. I have a Craftsman lawnmower, it’s a tank lol

[@MisterTwister88]

Thanks for the video, thanks. Prepare yourself for all the tractor pro’s telling you how you should have done the test

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Lol, there's a professional tractor league? I'm gonna try out!

[@dave.lawrence.3894]

Safety first, equipment, this is a good thing 🙂. 👍👍👍🙏😗, Be smart... Stay smart..!!!!

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Thanks for watching David! Have a great weekend!

[@lennyross2813]

When is the Summit 35 hp tractor coming out? I heard it may be available summer 2023…Are you getting the 35 hp version to test out , Courtney ??

[@LedgemereHeritageFarm]

Like the Mahindra mechanic told me about the actual busted tractors they have, “you just can’t teach some people…” I’ve never physically broken a tractor unless I was using it for something it wasn’t designed for. People don’t realize hi range is like 5th gear on a truck; high speed, low torque. Great video and the summit tractors seem like a pretty good machine, but there’s no dealers near me

[@MarkLasater]

I put a chain around an engine block awhile back (I think, about 800 LBS). I could lift it with my JD 3038e, for the most part. With the bucket about three feet off the ground the block would just clear the ground, if I lifted it much more than that, the rear tires would start to float a bit. If I hit a bit of a bump with the rear tires, it would tip the tractor such that the block would just touch the ground. If I let off on the lift, I could then pick it up again. I was able to put the block onto a trailer, but just, a lift of about 18 inches for the bottom of the block and about five feet for the bucket. I think I was at about two-thirds the capacity for the loader, but I exceed the ballast on my tractor. I figure more people get hurt using a loader because they lifted more than they were really ballasted for than that they exceed the specifications of the loader.

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Yeah, I agree with that. Ballast is huge.

[@richc9890]

Funny Video. What's the rated lift on the versa forks?

[@jamesberg3106]

Good tunes

[@lucasdog1]

My TC29 New Holland will bring both rear wheels off the ground if I pick up too much in front, even with the brush hog on back for ballast.

[@GoodWorksTractors]

That means you need more ballast

[@ricksanchez7459]

Our workmaster 65 can lift more than it should and if you drive around with to much weight on the front it can bust the front hubs. We use it to wrap and feed baleage so must be incredibly careful as the parts are over $2000 to replace the planetary hub. Another guy on utube had his 3point break on him running a disk mower. They sell an auxiliary cylinder you have to install before the tractor will handle a mower. If you mow in dusty conditions there is a baffle that needs installed in engine bay that will keep the trans cooler from filling up with mud. Another utuber runs his as a logging skidder and had to order it with the forestry package loader arms. The manufacturer advertises all these uses but the dealers are mostly clueless about the upgrades to run a utility tractor as an ag tractor.

[@GoodWorksTractors]

How do you lift more than it should, I'm curious? Definitely all sorts of things you need to know about certain setups. Lots of dealer turnover these days too, so the knowledge base needs to get built back up.

[@ricksanchez7459]

@Good Works Tractors I'm not sure, I just know it will bust a hub if we lift to much and tram around with it on the front. I believe it has to do with static and dynamic rating along with how far out we had set our wheels. The loader may be rated for 2425lb, but that is flat ground, lowest gear, closest pin. With the bale squeeze and a wet bale on front and back we have set our wheels back in and crawler gear to feed. Our neighbor has a powerstar 75 and has had no problems and he runs his in a similar job. On a side note, our s3010 has lost reverse gear twice now in 1100hrs. The gear is tiny and the bearings within it even smaller. I think the manufacturer designed it to reverse the machine and thats it. If you try smoothing manure or sand by backdragging it overloads them tiny bearings.

[@GoodWorksTractors]

@@ricksanchez7459 Sounds like something wasn't designed correctly with that NH.

[@ricksanchez7459]

@Good Works Tractors You're probably right!Aftermarket hubs already available makes me wonder. A guy shouldn't be able to "overwork" a machine. I see em weld stuff back together all the time.

[@philliptanner5313]

Don't know if it's true for all tractors or just my kioti, but if you tilt forks forward, boom up till it stops itself, and then curl forks back it would hold weight. This lets it move a little more weight

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Yeah, they all do that.

[@tappedthatsugarshackhallad3909]

They are meant to be pushed hard to the limit. Like u said tractors have there limits built in for safety of the user and can only do what the tractor is made for nothing more.

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Agreed

[@mttrapper]

I think you can safely assume all tractor hydraulic systems have a pressure relief valve in the system. When you lift a load that doesn't move, it simply means it hit the pressure set on the relief valve and oil will flow back into the reservoir. It's not anything that will harm the tractor although if you held the loader stick back long enough it might increase the temperature of your hydraulic oil. But it's not like trying to move a stationary truck with a manual transmission in high gear and you'd end up cooking your clutch. What is the orange cord on the Summit tractor?

[@benfranklinification]

😊 Wow !!

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Craziness

[@evancleland1775]

I bought a Toro push mower from TSC for my 3 acre lawn when waiting on my new Jd ztr to arrive. The mower gave out after 2 cuttings. TSC said it wasnt made to mow that much lawn... I was dumbfounded.. they seriously think a mowers life is 6 hours ?

[@frankjones5283]

Wow ..never head of that tractor brand. ITL . Liked your humor ..better than Jerry Springer.

[@richardbritton5280]

Good class 👏 😳🏆🏆👴

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Thanks Richard :)

[@mochouinard]

We saw some small tractor with broken frames...

[@davebeam8557]

Commone sense what some people lack,and those that do should not operate equipment or any kind of power tools period.

[@billiesarver598]

you never discussed how many gallons per minute the hydraulic pump is on the summit tractor. I would like to see you hook up your log splitter to the summit tractor to see how well it performs.

[@GoodWorksTractors]

I likely wouldn't hook up a hydraulic log splitter to any 25hp tractor. No where near enough hydraulic flow.

[@billiesarver598]

@@GoodWorksTractors but how many gallons, per minute? That has nothing to do with horsepower. We have already run one off of our John Deere 2305 and it ran 5.4 gallons per minute, and we hooked the splitter up to our Kubota B2601 and it was 8.3 gallons per minute. It ran fine on both tractors but it split better on the Kubota with the bigger hydraulic pump.

[@foonus406]

Get a good speed up in second gear and slam the bucket into a firm hillside... raise a long PTO too high with an attachment on and watch what happens to the transmission... Jam the lift lever to maximum speed for every lift, then slam the bucket back down on the ground at the same speed due to lack of control. Turn the machine off every time it tries to start an emissions burnoff.. There are lots of ways to destroy these things, the biggest one is usually in the cab. That sure is a nice set of forks you had fabricated!

[@GoodWorksTractors]

All sorts of ways you can break a tractor. Typically all abuse, but not overworking or overloading it. Those are dummy mistakes and we've made videos all about them in the past :)

[@foonus406]

@@GoodWorksTractors Yep, all abuse situations, but how many times have you been on a jobsite with a green operator and seen them happening? Obviously enough to make video content about it. The poor machines aren't immune to the operator error (abuse) no matter the manufacturer. The videos you make on these topics really does save folks a lot of money and frustration. Thanks.

[@GoodWorksTractors]

@@foonus406 Haha, no doubt. Hopefully helps to lessen the amount of knucklehead moves going on!

[@GoodWorksTractors]

For the record, I'm guilty of those myself from time to time!

[@richardchapin6912]

What is the red line on the right side of you tractor

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Electric chute control wiring for the snowblower

[@mttrapper]

So the forks you use on the 3-pt will quick attach to the loader? But unless you have a hydraulic function to your top link you wouldn't be able to back tilt the load, correct?

[@georgelee7259]

Is summit tractor a rebrand of itl?

[@GoodWorksTractors]

ITL is the manufacturer. It says so on the side of the tractor and also on their website. Not a rebrand.

[@georgelee7259]

@@GoodWorksTractors I was trying to confirm that because another channel claims that it is a rebranded tractor I thought it was a ITL thank you

[@HighlanderNB]

Does Summit make a 25 hp. cab tractor?

[@johnnyblue4799]

That little tractor is so cute... I'd put one in the living room to look at... :)))

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Awesome, you can buy one at these locations. Hopefully the color matches with your decor. summittractors.com/where-to-buy.php

[@johnnyblue4799]

@@GoodWorksTractors Actually I was curious about them as I never heard of them before. So I looked them up. They seem to be selling in US only. I'm in EU...

[@frankashmore4781]

Loader is engineeed too far out in front. Loss of leverage. Part of the reason I ended up getting a JD3032e was that the loader wasn't way out in front. Can get into tight spaces especially in the woods.

[@GoodWorksTractors]

The 3e Series might have the weakest loader I’ve ever used for a tractor its size. EDIT: I still think it’s a decent machine, but the comparable Kubota Standard L Series is better all around. However, typically a bit more expensive though that might have changed in the last year or two.

[@frankashmore4781]

@@GoodWorksTractors Not talking lift capacity, talking mobility of turning in tight spaces. Really enjoy your videos.

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Your comment about loss of leverage definitely had to do with lift capacity. Leverage isn’t related to navigation. A few inches longer on the loader isn’t going to have any significant impact on navigation though.

[@frankashmore4781]

True. Was speaking in general terms about leverage. More than a few inches though. Makes a difference. Sorry, didn't mean to start a 'thing' haha. Good YT channel you have though.

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Hehe, I probably came across a bit strong. I just know thousands of folks see these comments over the years and want to make sure there's no mixed messages coming from me. Have a good Sunday!

[@woodman8261]

What are your views of the Summit tractors?

[@craigflatley7370]

🇨🇦

[@ranger6x660]

We learned a Summit tractor sucks! 😳😁😂

[@brianphilbrook5262]

Two things I’m afraid of happening: breaking the top link off and bending or tweaking the loader arms.

[@GoodWorksTractors]

The only thing I'm ever afraid of happening is getting my machines stuck....again! 😂

[@brianphilbrook5262]

@@GoodWorksTractors 😂

[@kdegraa]

Damaging a loader would happen when there are unbalanced forces on the loader that are beyond it’s capabilities. If forces and masses can be kept in balance then it should not be possible to bend or break a loader.

[@Noah_E]

Bent FEL arms seems to be a Kubota specific problem. They are built too light

[@JimN_AustinTx]

M4D for the win.

[@robmatthews7972]

Personal injury lawyers evidently made the tractor makers set the hydraulic pressure relief at a lower popoff level.

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Likely part of it

[@rcclassiccrawlers4368]

Oh noooo! There’s smoke coming out of my tractor’s exhaust pipe. I must be over working it. I better turn it off so it can rest. Lmao!!! Some people’s kids be like 🤪🤪🤯🤯The left front tire of that Kubota appears to have low air pressure. Just sayings…

[@chadbinette3201]

To me overworking could be like say you have a 40hp l-series or deeres equal and it might run a hay baler but not something you'ld want to do a lot. Pushing the high end of it capabilities often and don't maintain your equipment.

[@TAT2D-SQRL]

Tractors are made to work period just like any other equipment. If you have a tractor and you do not put it to work then your probably on the side that really should not own a tractor. Garage queens never accomplish anything

[@GoodWorksTractors]

that's exactly right

[@LTVoyager]

It is true that things like hydraulics have relief valves, but not all aspects of a tractor have such safeties. If you pull too much load too long you can overheat a hydrostatic drive. Old fashioned gear transmissions weren’t nearly so susceptible to this. Similarly, trying to take too heavy a load downhill can overheat and damage the brakes which can the lead to overrevving and damaging the engine. And carrying very heavy loads at low speeds damages bearings faster than carrying light loads at higher speeds. Bearing races fatigue just as do other metal parts subject to cyclical loading. So, yes, you can overload your tractor in a way it can’t prevent and cause damage over time. The hydraulics are a very special case and should not be generalized to the entire tractor.

[@GoodWorksTractors]

All of the things you list sure sound a lot like what I do all the time. I like to call it "using the tractor".

[@LTVoyager]

@@GoodWorksTractors Carrying loads above what the tractor is rated for or overrevving the engine is definitely in the abuse rather than use category. However, you are in good company as many folks abuse their tractors. Most will never know as most tractors will easily go 10,000 hours used within specifications and probably 5,000 if abused. Few tractor owners, other than real farmers, will ever see 5,000 hours so they won’t see the affects of their abuse.

[@GoodWorksTractors]

You can't carry loads above what it's rated for. Did you seriously not just watch the video that shows you can't do that? Overrevving their engine? You're really reaching for things, but more power to ya!

[@LTVoyager]

@@GoodWorksTractors Sure you can. Ballast isn’t always attached to the hydraulics. You can add ballast racks and overload with ballast in addition to picking up the maximum load the hydraulics to the max and thus overload the axles. If you haul too heavy a hay wagon down a steep hill with a small tractor, it isn’t too hard to overrev the engine.

[@LTVoyager]

@@GoodWorksTractors As we used to say in my engineering department, it is hard to make things idiot-proof as idiots are so darn creative. You would be amazed at the creative ways people find to abuse equipment.

[@jadesumsion]

I wanted to see some safety gear being worn. Football helmet. Leather chaps. Hahaha

[@andremueller1624]

Courtney, how tall are you? I’m 6’5 and will have to drive a few hours to see/get a Summit tractor.

[@franklackie2469]

Good thing it refused to pick up this so many idiots out there

[@brandoncrimmins6296]

You know, I’m honored that you put my whole comment thread up on screen! And I’ll be honest with you. I just spent an hour typing out a very long winded response about hydraulic operation and relief valves. I’ve been a diesel mechanic for most of my adult life and I’m damn good at it. So I will just point out that all you’ve shown here is a properly working relief valve in an open center system. Anyway, at this point. We’re just going to have to agree to disagree.

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Yep, exactly right. The tractor has mechanisms to protect itself :)

[@brandoncrimmins6296]

@@GoodWorksTractors Actually relief valves are like fuses or circuit breakers. They’re protecting the hydraulic circuit. Things like hoses, valves and seals. Not loader booms and tractor frames.

[@GoodWorksTractors]

@@brandoncrimmins6296 The hydraulic system is part of the tractor Brandon. It's protecting the tractor.

[@brandoncrimmins6296]

@@GoodWorksTractors I mean a 30 second google search will show you that you’re 100% wrong. A good example is the fuse for the headlights, yes it has a side effect of potentially quelling any fire risk. Although things burn down all the time with these failsafes in place. But let’s ignore that, right?it’s there SPECIFICALLY to protect the circuit. Not the headlights. It’s the same with same with a relief valve designed SPECIFICALLY to protect hoses, valves and seals. The physical size of the cylinders and the geometry employed to mount them to the boom determines the lift capacity and also determines the point at which that relief valve go into bypass. If you don’t believe me. Take the 1.5” cylinders off your loader and replace them with 3” cylinders. I promise you that WITHOUT shimming the relief valve for higher pressure. It will lift substantially more. Now it’s going to lift about half as fast as it normally does. But it’s going to physically move twice as much weight.

[@rcguymike]

​@@brandoncrimmins6296 I think you're splitting hairs just to split hairs, the as engineered solution provided by the manufacturer you can't "overload". If all of the specifications as listed in the service manuals are followed you can't break anything by performing work as designed and specified by the manufacturer. The relief valve might be set even lower than the line pressure from factory to account for something else. If you look at 1, 2 and 3 series John deeres they probably use all the same rated hoses and such but they don't have the same overall system pressure rating. That's not what good works tractors is saying.

[@melaniekeen3611]

Are you impressed with Summit tractors?

[@GoodWorksTractors]

I am, built solid, great features, and they are building out the company in the same way I would do.

[@bay9876]

There would be a lot of safety engineering built in the Tractors for those over zealous users.

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Rightly so

[@danielmoore6507]

If you wanna push equipment to its limits, get ahold of Dirt Monkey. I'm sure he'll help push everything to its limits lol

[@julianreid8179]

never pay too much or spend too little...

[@ericcrockett479]

Only way I know you can "overwork" your tractor would be stacking weight on the forks when they are already off the ground. I can say I'm personally guilty of that. With your 3pt test if you had a hydraulic top link it might have lifted enough you could have carried it. The only other way I know you could over work a tractor would be flat out abuse such as digging with the loader and trying to get a stump of rock out and ramming it. But to me that's not over work that's just plain abuse and a totally different topic

[@dieseldood]

Yup! Today's tractors are set up to be as idiot proof as possible. I wouldnt recommend doing this with an older tractor... back when common sense was common, guys knew better so they didn't.

[@the86125]

So, long story short, overwork and abuse/negligence are not interchangeable terms.

[@carolinafirewood]

Wait a min, you're doing it all wrong.. 😜

[@GoodWorksTractors]

I knew it!

[@Butch-fn2xr]

Don’t break it you may have to haul it 50 miles to get it fixed

[@kavemanthewoodbutcher]

The engineers at John Deere are smarter folk than I. Thank all that is holy for that.

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Lol, smarter than I for sure!

[@charlesmalloy8150]

Are tractors like cars as far as depreciation goes ? I got a jd 3038e last year and it's just too small for me, I'm 6'4". I am thinking bout trading it in on a larger one.

[@angusblack9900]

Tractors are kindly like mules overwork it (abuse) and they will lay down on you😂

[@boomerau]

wow on concrete with a too big a load and a 30 second test it doesn't do anything shock horror. about as informative as a test drive of a car. I'll concrete my paddocks right now! Trying to lift too much on concrete for 30 seconds is usually not the thing that breaks it. Reduce the weight to maximum you can lift to axle height - basically it won't tip. Use low gear and do 100 hours out in the paddocks. I'm fairly sure the summit will have leaking front seals - the bigger kubota's should be find as they don't use a knuckle. from some hunting it appears most of the frame issues have now been solved on most newer tractors - in the current market no not really upgrading. ugh mine is before they solved them so it has just had the frame welded back together and it did nothing outside of spec - low gear, keep the load low, used off road and concrete all oem attachments. Apparently living on a hill isn't ideal for a tractor - which makes some sense and to be honest but I live on a hill. in fairness mine is nothing like a deere hill combine losing a self adjusting drive axle that is a big job have a look at the video.

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Ohh, that's the right way to do the overloading test? I should have known a concrete pad would screw up the whole thing. What was I thinking? 🤦‍♂️

[@expatconn7242]

What you don’t believe all the U tube key board engineers 😂hahahahahha