Overview: Leatherman FREE P2 & P4

[@ApO__]

FINALLY! A useful critical review for the Letherman FREE! Thanks and keep up the great work! I just subbed! Cheers!

[@txtoolcrib]

Thank you very much, and thank you for your subscription.

[@profd65]

"FINALLY!" So you've been sitting around waiting for a negative review? Why? That's pretty fucking weird.

[@paulmartinez9908]

TX Tool Crib let me know what I need to do to get a deal on your P4 if you’re selling..I do leatherwork and would love to do a job for ya

[@Iliek]

@@profd65 He said critical, not negative. Most people who reviewed the Free series did so from a superficial perspective and not practical. TX Tool Crib takes a more practical approach and isn't as impressed by flashiness as most KZbin tool reviewers. After hearing their glowing reviews while completely ignoring the negative aspects of the tool, it's refreshing to hear an honest take from someone who actually USES tools instead of merely collecting them.

[@JimLBon]

Damn, you’re the first multi tool reviewer I’ve seen who actually understands how a tool works. Great review, subscribed.

[@txtoolcrib]

Thank you sir, and thank you for subscribing.

[@JimLBon]

TX Tool Crib no, thank you. Seriously. Watching people who obviously have no idea what they’re talking about just to see what a particular tool looks like is painful. Great reviews man. You hit all the points only somebody that actually works with tools can hit. You saved me 120+ bucks on having to get one of these myself.

[@txtoolcrib]

Jim Bonney Well you’re quite welcome. Comments such as yours give me incentive to devote more of my spare time to helping people reach informed decisions. I, much like yourself, have become quite disillusioned with numerous reviews from people that are reviewing things outside of their scope of knowledge. It is actually the reason I began this little channel. I’m glad you were able to save some of your hard earned cash. Once again, thank you.

[@ScottBennett7]

I called Leatherman to order the pocket clip for the P4 and they told me that they would send me one for free. Looks like they came to agreement that they should have included with the unit. They told me that they were planning on sending clips to all who purchased the P4 through Leatherman. Call them if you have questions.

[@txtoolcrib]

Scott Bennett Thank you for letting us know that.

[@bilakos1987]

Who ever heard of someone actually using the tool, and pointing out the negatives? Not blindly praising the hyped aspects, but instead explaining what the real deal is. That is why I subscribed, and unlike the Free tools, you do not disappoint. Keep up the great reviews, and I can only hope your honest channel grows to rival those of the sycophants, shills, and fanboys.

[@txtoolcrib]

Thank you very much for your subscription. Your support means a great deal as well. Hopefully my little channel can one day grow into something special. I have found that I really enjoy passing on knowledge to other people. I have plans to add how-to videos in the future that will cover everything from simple DIY projects to full on construction projects as well as covering the tools to do such projects. Thanks again for watching, and for your support.

[@bilakos1987]

You could join forum.multitool.org if you haven't already. Lots of information and people who appreciate honest reviews, who would increase your audience.

[@disco4535]

I mean theres plenty of videos out there that do this lol. Everyone has their tools for their own specific purposes, and find flaws and positives based on their uses.

[@disco4535]

And how ironic that he didnt even use them before doing this video lmaoo. Just theorizing. Funny to look back at these old videos and remember when people thought the magnets were going to be a problem. Turned out that was a complete myth. I've had my P2 for over 2 years now and after grinding literal tons of metal, have had absolutely no issues with the magnets. I have really tough hands so I never felt any hot spots either. I was just looking for videos comparing the 2 side by side because I was considering getting the P4 and wasnt sure how much bigger it was. Guess Ill just get the P4 and sell it if it isnt what I want.

[@snowCat168]

Good honest review, highlighting both the good & bad. I look forward to watching more of your reviews. Thank you so much !

[@txtoolcrib]

Thank you, I appreciate you taking the time to watch.

[@swkohnle08]

Good review. I’m sticking with my Wave as it has proven itself over the years for me. In fact, I plan to buy a new Wave as mine is pretty old and doesn’t have the replaceable cutters. Thanks.

[@txtoolcrib]

The Wave is time tested to be one of the best, no doubt. I think that is a good choice.

[@miguelpi8831]

I was waiting for your video to take a look on the new leatherman tools. Your reviews are the best on youtube. My impression is that the new "free" line is too fancy. I prefer the good old surge, with real tools for real life, as leatherman used to say.

[@txtoolcrib]

Thank you Miguel, that is a helluva compliment. I tend to agree with you. I feel like the new FREE series are basically fidget tools for grown men. They do have some pretty cool engineering, but on the whole they just don't work for me. Leatherman can do better.

[@pointyfox]

It's like they included toy versions of some of the tools on the Surge and Wave, like how they went from an 8 inch ruler to a 1.4 inch ruler, or from a pretty large file to one that's barely a nail file.

[@jasonrolling9347]

I own a surge and waiting for my crunch. Perfect combo

[@austinlooney9280]

I am a maintenance technician at a pipe fabricating shop. The P4 has proven to be my go to multitool. The one handed accessibility is everything. I dont think this model is getting enough credit. Great tool and great reviews sir. Keep up the good work

[@txtoolcrib]

A lot of people have the same opinion as you do. One hand accessible tools is what they deem most important. For that function, the FREE series fits the bill. If that doesn’t matter to you as much, then there are far better options in multi tools out there that are easily more capable. That’s not saying your choice is wrong. Everyone should choose the multi tool that best correlates with their needs. Sounds as if you found yours.

[@T.Sizzle]

Your multitool reviews are simply the best by far. Your attention to detail is outstanding. I would like to see some demonstrations especially with comparisons. Thank you for making these videos 👍

[@txtoolcrib]

Thank you very much, I appreciate that. I do plan to get some comparisons out soon, in which I will really be putting different models head to head and testing out their capabilities on video.

[@AshGreen359]

No bit driver, no go

[@txtoolcrib]

Yeah, I think they made a big mistake there.

[@TheCarDetailingChannel]

The bit driver is my favourite feature of the Wave, especially with the extra bits you can pick up

[@AshGreen359]

@@TheCarDetailingChannel the bit driver is hands down the most used tool on my Surge

[@astrix1014]

Your paying 60-70$s for a screwdriver knife pliers everything and you still complain! Honestly you people 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@appleztooranges]

Free series is a step back also! They should build from the best (Leatherman). Leatherman surge, Rebar, Wave, supertool 300. Shouldn’t remove things like the curl and bond does. We don’t want to sacrifice quality with price like they did with the Leatherman bond and the knife scenario!

[@dimi7055]

i just dont get it '' OUR BEST MULTITOOL IN 25 YEARS " then put all the cheap useless tools in there that they can find and exclude all the good ones. how is not 1 clown at leatherman saying hey, maybe 5 flat heads and basicly nothing else is stupid ? that beeing said. very good review!

[@txtoolcrib]

I remember thinking almost the same thing when I saw the initial release videos from SHOT Show. Most of the videos were moving pretty fast though and I couldn't get a very good look at the tools or the overall design. I gave the new FREE series the benefit of the doubt, but ultimately they came up short of what I expect from a well built multi tool.

[@charlieelliott364]

Great videos. Makes me wish I hadn’t dropped my modified Free P2 to the bottom of Santa Cruz lake while fishing last month (modded with a custom bit exchanger that accepted Leatherman bit sets AND 1/4” hex bits at a 90* angle) I wanted to mention to you because i’m not sure if you noticed; but the floating tool spacers also flex and act as mini leaf springs to provide tension to the locking bar. As for my 2 cents, I had my P2 for 8 months, and as a medium duty/urban/EDC it worked perfectly for me and my daily uses. Sure I could nitpick about wishing the blade was straight edge instead of a combo straight/serrated or wishing it came in S30V or with a bit exchanger. But I either modified it or adapted how I use it like keeping the magnets clean, smoothing any hot spots, etc. Since you can already customize designs on your Leatherman, I think the next evolution for the company will be offering modular tools that can have tools easily swapped out or allow us to choose a frame style and arrange each specific tool we want to be fitted from the factory. It’s the best solution in my mind to satisfy the most people especially when their tools are averaging around $120. That’s a lot to not get exactly what you want. Anyway keep up the good work and if you have any suggestions to help me replace my Free P2 like knowing someone who may be selling or would barter, I’m willing to consider ANY model or brand of multi tool if it’s good quality and a good deal. Thank you

[@markwhitson]

I know some guys fuss about the little ruler, but I love little details like that--I measure brake and tire wear on commercial aircraft and would use this all the time. Also handy for taking notes on dents and minor damage that need to be documented.

[@txtoolcrib]

You make a good point, I could absolutely see how it could be useful in that application. I guess I shouldn't complain. It is just laser etched into the tool, so if they can, why not right? It just a little bonus tool. I actually prefer the frame stamped ruler for my applications though.

[@markwhitson]

@@txtoolcrib Either way, thanks for the review--no doubt the free line is garnering lots of attention!

[@MrFroggy29]

Seriously?

[@gendou0000]

Awesome review. I had some multi-tool lust over the free series. After your review I'll be staying with my Leatherman Wave.

[@txtoolcrib]

Thank you. I know what you mean. I was pretty excited about these new tools when I first saw them as well. I thought initially that the magnets were going to be an issue, but I wanted to keep an open mind. After encountering some of the other issues, I must say I was more than disappointed. If they were half the price I would be okay with the new designs. The high cost of these multi tools and their lack of functionality clearly sets them in the no go category for me though. Thanks for you comment, and thanks for watching.

[@Minotaur1975]

Shame the pliers aren't spring loaded. So frustrating trying to use pliers that you have to manually open

[@Leucoandro]

Great review. You hit on things I wanted more information on.

[@txtoolcrib]

Thank you, I'm glad I could help.

[@spartacusantipas4580]

Thanks for the review. I'm keeping my Wave. They went 1 step forward and 2 steps back!

[@txtoolcrib]

Thank you. Absolutely nothing wrong with the Wave. There is a reason it has been produced for over 20 years.

[@trueblack6760]

I had received the Free P4 and found they are using magnet as a mechanism!! Then I found your video..... too late. I should not purchase items when I'm drunk...

[@txtoolcrib]

Lol. It happens. Sorry I missed your comment.

[@deadhand1774]

Awls should be all or nothing

[@txtoolcrib]

I agree.

[@Patrick-c8x]

I love my Leathermans -- all l do is play with them on the couch watching movies - is that bad ? 😂

[@txtoolcrib]

Lol, everyone has their fetishes.

[@Genesis992]

My P4 came with a scale that says “P2”. . . I wish the file got rid of the single cut side in favor of a diamond side. Or that they put a diamond file on the other side of the ruler tool. The philips/bottle opener and flathead/package opener/pry tool are better than I thought they’d be. . . I thought they’d be lifted from the Sidekick/Wingman. Ruler should’ve been along the frame like the Surge. Would’ve been nice to have some gimping on the spine of the serrated blade like nearly EVERY other Leatherman. They COULD give FREE access to the Bit Kit by making an attachment with a quarter inch socket that would slide over both of the drivers (when they are opened together). Also, GIMME a pocket clip, dammit.

[@txtoolcrib]

Genesis I have heard of a couple of other people getting the P4 with P2 stamping as well. Leatherman really needs to step up their quality control. I agree with the stamping on the frame for the ruler. I was curious why they didn’t add the gimping to the serrated blade spine as well. You have some excellent points.

[@Genesis992]

TX Tool Crib Leatherman has ignored me on Twitter when I have tried telling them about the messed-up scale. I was super surprised when I saw it. Not something I expected from them. I made sure to mention it in my review on their website. I have a pretty large collection of pretty much every model they have ever released with the only exceptions being E.O.D. Tools. The Juice Pro (I have 6 of them) and Surge are probably my favorite tools, and I carry them pretty much every day.

[@Zerog461]

Don’t forget not everyone who uses these is blessed with 2 hands or 2 arms. One handed use works for some.

[@Eledaraumar]

Yep, and people using them in work where they only have one hand free at any given time.

[@seanbradshaw6580]

At last an honest review congrats profit maximizing cnc rubbish

[@txtoolcrib]

sean bradshaw I am personally a big fan of Leatherman tools, but I couldn’t in good conscience rave about these multi tools as the next best thing when I don’t believe that. I believe in speaking the truth at all times, even when it isn’t in your own best interest. In Texas, we call that integrity. Thanks for watching.

[@seanbradshaw6580]

@@txtoolcrib I own 9 waves 5 surges and 5 charges not counting the juices squirts or vintage models just very disappointing btw most secondary market

[@Ifferish]

Wish I could have seen this video before I ordered. The handle play is a huge drawback I wish I saw pointed out elsewhere. Great review

[@txtoolcrib]

Thank you sir.

[@Larry-gs8gb]

So the tools are not as good as on the wave,charge or Surge,but they are very proud of a gimmicky , one handed opening system; are you sure this isn't made by gerber?

[@quentinham5908]

Id trust mp600 over this any day. The tool lineup on these guys is a joke. They could have put their fancy magnet system on a rebooted wave but nooOOoo... We get wingman/rev stupid shit.

[@txtoolcrib]

Speaking of Gerber, I have their new updated version of the CenterDrive on the way. I'm actually looking forward to reviewing it. It looks like it may be a major improvement over the first model.

[@quentinham5908]

@@txtoolcrib oh no way? An updated centerdrive? Is does it have non replaceable cutters instead of those brittle pieces of shit carbide inserts?

[@txtoolcrib]

Quentin Ham Unfortunately, that is the one thing they didn’t change. I feel ya on that. They did improve it overall though from what I can tell. Look for it in about a week or so.

[@quentinham5908]

@@txtoolcrib lookin forward to it sir and from a fellow texan carry on and keep up the great work!

[@Genesis992]

Also, those spacers between the outer tools and the inner tools are the springs for the tool lock. Press and release the lock for the tools and you’ll see them flexing.

[@txtoolcrib]

Genesis You are absolutely right. I knew that, but I forgot to mention it in the video. I don’t go off of a script when doing the few videos I have done, it is sort of off the cuff. Seems I always forget something. Maybe I should be using a script in future videos. That’s a good eye btw, nice catch.

[@Genesis992]

TX Tool Crib Update on the Free P4: I’ve found that the plier head will occasionally bind up after cutting wire to the point where opening the pliers will require more force than is necessary to fold the tool. That’s kinda bothersome. Although it will go back to normal after working it back and forth for a bit.

[@cwsmith17]

I wasn't excited about the P2 or P4 but after using them both for about a 1.5 months I freaking love them

[@txtoolcrib]

I still can't get with them. They just feel flimsy to me. I can see where people find them useful for lighter tasks though. The fast deploy tools are kind of what sets it apart.

[@marcuscv827]

Great review! I have a charge tti and wanted an upgrade. For my daily use this doesn't seem like an upgrade. It's still a beautiful tool don't get me wrong, but a tool is not meant to look beautiful. It needs to be useful and practical. The bit kit is a must for me and I use the eyeglass screwdriver for many other uses. Thanks for the great review I'll stick with my charge

[@txtoolcrib]

I really like the Charge. I wish they had a similar upgrade model for the Surge. I would jump all over that.

[@bashdkmgt]

So far the charge ti is the best of the best

[@Chaumyk]

After having used both, I find that i like the p4's screwdriver over the wave more now. If i'm carrying the extra bits with me anyway, i'm using the bit extender that could also fit on the p4. so it doesn't really take way from the tool. P4 just gets some extra reach.

[@edc-everydaycarry]

A very descriptive and detailed professional review, I am about to review surge and wave plus. I always carry wave plus since it's not as heavy as surge, but by far Surge is beast of all multi tools on my viewpoint and I believe you will agree with me too. Keep the good work as you gave me enough details on free series (e.g. locking mechanism "Elastomer spring") and many more technical specs that I know how fidgety the tool really is. Keep up the good work.

[@txtoolcrib]

Thank you sir, and thanks for watching. I look forward to seeing your review.

[@2371Anita]

I really dislike a serrated blade as my main blade. I will never buy a multitool with such a blade. Overall I think I would pick the 4 over the 2. And, I don't understand why the made the saw like that on the 4.weirs tip. Takes of some Lenght for sawing. Think I'll stick with my wave+. Hoping one day to own a surge.

[@AGC828]

Ummmm....I would have liked to hae seen you demo the FREE P4 one-handed as it was designed....begs the question....Is it really a one-handed MLLTI?? \ Also from a practical standpoint....I think I'd prefer the OHT as the tools are all on the outside. Are there tools on the inside of the P4 you'd really need that are missing on the OHT? Shrug.

[@claudyfocan731]

Ooof thanks for saving me 190 European Pesos my friend! I’m an electromechanic by trade, gonna start a new offshore gig soon with a dredging company. So I was looking to maybe buy some new gear like a robust backpack, Led Lenser flashlight and a new Leatherman. I was considering this one bcs I saw an ad and I wanted to know more I ended up here on this vid. I changed my mind and am most likely gonna go with a Wave+. Costs me 40€ less as well. My daily carry is a Rebar, has been so for the last 5y. Helped me out during my welding classes in college as well, bet these magnets would not have liked that 😂 I guess u could blow em out with some HPA. But then again it would indeed be annoying over time. I also have a Surge, got it as a present for my 13th bday from my dad. Who liked the model. But it made me have to constantly pullup my pants as a little boy lol. I do use it tho, has served me well. One of the very best indeed, robust, comfy and I especially like the micro-screwdriver in it. But I eventually bought the Rebar as a EDC. Paired with a Spyderco Endura 4 in purple and a Maglite Solitaire LED. Thanks for the honest no-nonsense review, subscribed! Greetings from the country of Beer, Waffles and Light Machineguns! 🇧🇪

[@Welther47]

I like the Free P2 because the P4 just have too many knives; excluding other things. Honestly, I find I rarely need a knife... I often enough need a package-opener, but a straight edge is not the best for that. I certainly don't need a straight blade, a serrated blade, a saw and a package-opener in one mulittool. It just limites what else there could be in one. And the more, the heavier. I love the Surge, but the main fault I have with it is how heavy it is. I carry the supertool 300 (though it lacks scissors), but the wave+ or Rebar is the best balance for "comfy-bility" of everyday carry.

[@mahsheenman]

Good video--I like your critical review of the tool. You don't sugarcoat it, at all! but I don't agree with you of how it's "a step back for Leatherman." It all depends on the end use of the tool. In my use, a Leatherman is a convenient option when I need to do something, fast. A Leatherman, generally speaking, is "jack of all trades, master of none." Heavy duty all day jobs = heavy duty, specialized tools Medium duty one-off tasks = Leatherman

[@ILikeFreedomYo]

Thank you for your thorough review. I was one click away from buying one of these because of the American made stamp. But you have a great points about magnets and welding/milling. It's a bad combination. Also if your pliers have slop in them then they are no good. So thats an even worse problem. Then it doesn't look like the pliers are spring loaded which isn't a big deal but when the function to fold the tool is outward pressure then I could see it being annoying. I think this specific line just happens to be over engineered. Its too bad that its the only couple still with the American made stamp. Back to considering the Surge then.

[@ptinio2]

Can’t wait for the bad sales numbers after this quarter and they will be sold at rock bottom prices. That’s when I’ll buy one and add to my collection

[@txtoolcrib]

ptinio2 I wouldn’t be surprised if that is exactly what happens.

[@kabayan9746]

Hi, it seems that you acquired your Free Series right after their release. Does your P2/P4 comes with the production date stamp? Mine doesn’t have any stamp so I want to confirm it to others. They said early released doesn’t have manufacturing date. Do you know anything about it. TIA

[@grizzlycountry1030]

*I'm sending my " free p4" back to them. It does not operate as smooth or as easy as they claimed it would. The pliers aren't spring assisted. It weighs alot. I'm happier with my older broken in leatherman. I don't feel like this was worth the $139 I spent.*

[@ricev7071]

You mean to tell me that you actually bought this junk??? I guess there really is a sucker born every minute!!!

[@garyhubbartt8351]

So much heavy, it will pull your pants down and that can land you in jail!!! Now'adays!!!😱

[@MR35_]

Sir, Thank you for your quality content. You provide clear and concise info.

[@peddypeoples941]

this tool was not designed by a working man. Its a quite nifty tech demo/prototype, ditch the metalshavings collector keep the onehand opening small tools somehow and combine it with the wave/surge. It is baffleing i find a ca. 25 year old design from victorinox more thought out than this. Some of the small tools are just there to make a list bigger, tiny file and measure, what where they thinking?

[@gigga747]

It rusts after little use, pathetic 👎🏼 Don't waste your money on this. BTW, good video

[@fc436]

The alleged Hotspot problem does not exist. The leatherman free p4 is the most comfortable leatherman of all time when squeezed tight. The 2 pins do not feel at all under the hands. The best is the angle of the handles. Much narrower than other leathermen, it allows a good grip even when tightening large bolts. Similar to victorinox spirit. The quality and engineering of this free series is on another planet than other leathermen. The assortment of tools can like it or not. But the build quality is objectively HUGE BETTER than any other leatherman.

[@erictingsee]

Hated those screw drivers. Most of the time jumps out of the screw which means you'll be needing quite a force to even turn them a bit. Worst if they don't have a lock.

[@vickersjd27]

This was a fantastic review. I really appreciate the thoroughness.

[@txtoolcrib]

vickersjd27 You’re quite welcome. Thanks for taking the time to watch, I know it was kind of long.

[@robertdufour2456]

I thought you would be more excited with 2 new Leathermans! Perhaps you are just tired.

[@vaxcoder53]

The Free P4 has tools like a shrimp legs it's for the noobs, the top tool is still the charge TTI top quality build but still nearly perfect

[@anniegogogone1806]

Really great comparison video.. Thanks!

[@lorrainepadilla5860]

Good review. I’ve had mine for a week. I think your opinion is going to be based on your trade. I’m an exterminator by trade and I use mine to hang fly lights while on ladders, set traps and adjust my sprayers among other things out in the field. They are best multi tool I’ve ever owned. The weight is right and the tools are easy to deploy. I’ve owned a Surge and it was too heavy and clunky for my use. There is a multi tool to fit every trade out there. Don’t discard it over someone else’s opinion. Test it out. You might like it... or not.

[@txtoolcrib]

You're right about looking at things from your own point of view. I try to keep my opinions as open as possible, but it is hard not to evaluate multi tools, and tools in general, from your own trade and perspective. Of course, watching reviews on KZbin for years myself, I always felt like there was a lack of reviewers that actually do work in the trades giving the reviews. I wish I had more time to do it, because I enjoy passing along my knowledge and experience with others who are willing to hear my opinions on what I think are the most quality products. I try to tell people that what works for me, may not work for you. People have seemed fairly receptive to hearing what I have to say so far, for the most part. Thank you for your compliment and for taking the time to comment.

[@MrJtrot90]

The moment I found out this tool had magnets I knew I’d never own one. Nothing is worse than grindings and swarf stuck to a magnet.

[@Velvet-Sunshine.]

Your video is very informative. I collect the multi tools, for fun and conversational purposes. I have the Leatherman surge, and Gerber truss, my favorites, especially the Gerber Truss as it's loaded with plenty of tools, but the Gerber truss is for display purposes only, the tolerances are so close and the frame so weak, that it would get bent out of shape quite easily. Leatherman surge is the one I would rely on if I had to, I have many other varieties such as Grandway Swiss Army products, all of them junk, that is unless you consider, that's some of them are really interesting and make good conversational pieces when passed around to friends, just before bringing out the quality pieces. Conclusion, Leatherman surge is the only practical one on the market today. You confirm my position, which is no to magnets, and lack of tool options such as a real metal file and exchangeable saw as well as the exchangeable bits as is the case with the leatherman surge. Of course I will still buy the P2 and P4, because I collect these things and it's always good conversation around the coffee table. Thanks very much, for your information.

[@txtoolcrib]

You are very welcome sir.

[@rymo10001]

I’m new to the world of multi-tools and heard the free was coming out, once I saw they didn’t have exchangeable bits. I went with the wave. Great video.

[@txtoolcrib]

Ryan Morales I don’t think you will disappointed with the Wave at all.

[@r2stik]

Bit Driver Extender surge! go surge!

[@txtoolcrib]

Surge is definitely a winner in my book.

[@txtoolcrib]

East Anglian You’re quite welcome. The Surge is a great multi tool. It is too big for some, but I find it to be a perfect fit for me and the type of work that I do.

[@interestedinstuff]

I have been waiting to get my hands on one of these here in Australia. I haven't seen one out yet, so your review is timely for me. It was also a nice clear presentation. Your comment about the magnets is exactly what I thought also when I first saw these tools presented. Like you, I have a collection of Leatherman's, and I use them all mostly in a fabrication environment. I also do electronics work. A magnet is bad for cleaning, and can be bad in electronics, so I'm not a fan of that part of their design. Here the P4 is $340 and the P2 is $290, so not real cheap (exchange is about 1.7 AUD = 1 USD). I haven't done the maths to compare to the prices you said. That's my 20 cents. Thanks for your review.

[@txtoolcrib]

Darren of Photos I estimate your prices in Australia to be about 40 percent higher than the US when adjusting for the exchange rate. I would assume, but can’t be certain that the prices are reflective of the extra cost of shipping. Seems a bit much, but then I have never had the occasion to ship anything to Australia. I think these two multi tools will find their place among the younger crowds who are not blue collar workers. I think the fact that they are one handed operable has disillusioned quite a few people to the fact that the tool sets are a bit of a step backwards. I guess time will tell. I have noticed that some of the people that had posted early videos and were singing the praises of these new multi tools are starting to take a step back though. I just hope that Leatherman does not see this magnetic architecture as the future of multi tools and try to incorporate the design into existing and future models. Thanks for your comment and for taking the time to watch my rather lengthy video.

[@Iliek]

To me, the Free series is a joke. The value you gain in ease of access is more than negated by the structural integrity lost in the design and the possible problems that the magnets introduce. It's a case of flashy over functional. I think it's a trendy cash-grab design and is not the future of Leatherman. The Free mini tools might be somewhat popular but the full sized tools will remain on shelves or be returned in favor of the Wave or Charge. When I went to REI over the holiday season they were completely sold out of the Wave and Charge while there were several of each type of Free hanging on the shelves in their bulky, flashy packaging. Thankfully it looks like not many people are buying the marketing hype.

[@txtoolcrib]

I couldn’t agree more.

[@milton510]

Very descriptive, convinced me to stick with Surge or Wave instead, thanks!

[@txtoolcrib]

Milton Lin You’re quite welcome sir.

[@sam3d]

Leatherman FREE = gimmicky toy... Leatherman Wave = real tool! NUFF SAID!

[@txtoolcrib]

My assessment as well.

[@MrSixxshooter]

Awesome video ! I love watching your videos bro .

[@masterbaits1]

The "useless ruler" would work good as a depth gauge

[@iluvherb2]

Magnets in a multitool are a bad idea. Many countries use furious metal in there coins.

[@debajyotinath5021]

magnets, sounds good, good for marketing, but not so good for usability purposes. Leatherman wanted to do something new desperately, but it didn't work, unfortunately. Wave, Charge, Surge etc. will still outsell these 'free' ones.

[@txtoolcrib]

I think you’re right. Sounded really good from a marketing perspective, but not from a practical one.

[@darkestlight6889]

You couldve easily made this video 10 minutes long and said more

[@mannihh5274]

Lanyard ring catching at Free P4: why don't you turn it to the inside? There's no rim to catch on. I'm not fond of that magnet. Maybe ok for EDC, but in the outdoors, being a strong neodym magnet, you have to be aware that it will affect any compass over a quite significant distance, so you can easily be mislead.

[@txtoolcrib]

That I hadn't even thought about. Thank you for your input.

[@sonnypiczon5077]

Great review ! Does your P4 have some play/wiggle when its closed? Mine does when its closed and opened . My surge has none and is rock solid as anything.

[@txtoolcrib]

It does have some play. The little tabs that they press into the frame do a decent job of keeping the handles together, but it is evident that there is some movement there. The reason that the surge doesn’t have that kind of movement is because of the way the handle is stamped. It has multiple breaks and bends that really strengthens the handles considerably.

[@petelopez5826]

It looks like they copied Victorinox on tools being accessible from the outside. The tools on the P4 are smaller than most tools. I still pick the surge and Victorinox over this tool. I love my swisstool spirit and surge. Looking to add another Victorinox to my collection but don’t know which one. Victorinox multi tools do not have the play you showed on your video.

[@txtoolcrib]

Victorinox makes some great multi tools, I just wish they made more of them.

[@michaelk487]

Cool 😎

[@sebs30v]

I don't know much cocaine Tim Leatherman is doing but, his new Leathermans are butt ugly.

[@txtoolcrib]

Most people I hear from say they love the looks of the newest tools from Leatherman, I also didn't think they were anything special aesthetically.

[@Welther47]

I was disappointed - this isn't "free" ;)

[@Welther47]

They should call the ruler a depth gauge instead.

[@Dziku888]

Play in 1.5 speed. Don't need to thank me.

[@kevola5739]

I was looking at purchasing the Surge but was told to wait for the new improved Leathermans to come out. After this review the Surge seems like a runaway bargain. The P4 with the floating pivots, hot spots, and magnets are all deal breakers not to mention the lack of full size tools. Plastic? Really? This tool looks like a goat rodeo organized by theoretical experts who want to add to their Leatherman collection. No offence intended as I liked and subscribed to this evaluation but this item is for fidget spinner collectors, and not tool box treasure. IMHO!

[@txtoolcrib]

Kevola I completely take your point. My opinion is that they will not work well in a heavy duty application. That being said, they are kinda fun as fidget tools. Lol

[@kevola5739]

TX Tool Crib Fair enough, just avoid heavy duty fidget spinning.

[@gtrul3s387]

Great review! I’ll stick with my surge. Bought it a month ago and i’ll not look back for an edc

[@txtoolcrib]

Gt Rul3s I’m biased when it comes to the Surge, but I think that is a very good decision.

[@gtrul3s387]

TX Tool Crib but you have a really good reason to be biased. It’s a beast! I’ m a welder too and i’m hard on my tools. I use it every single day and it take it like it’s nothing!

[@kimmungkim]

I wish they make one without a knife. I always carry a separate knife anyway because I never liked using the knives on these milti tools.

[@txtoolcrib]

There are very few knifeless multi tools out there. I think they should do it more often myself.

[@j.adanga9787]

An excellent overview and detailed, critical examination of the engineering. Great practical points all round particularly on the shortcomings. Thankyou for the time you invested and your well considered thoughts.

[@txtoolcrib]

J.A Danga Thank you very much sir. I appreciate that comment very much. Hopefully, as I publish more videos, I will get better at this and be able to provide higher quality content.

[@captainz2232]

I just wonder how well that elastomer bushing in the pliers holds up to exposure to chemicals like gasoline, diesel, oils, etc.

[@imafiretruck7454]

Honestly, I've just learned about the bushings in these tools and I wish I hadn't with the amount of time my P2 has sat at the bottom of a full oil drain pan and the few times it's been dunked in gasoline while working on the riding mower this past summer. Fact is, it's been abused so much that my P4 just came in 3 days ago because I've been so happy with it; just despised the combo blade on it. I got both of them new on fleaBay for nearly half the MSRP, otherwise, I wouldn't have any experience with them to share, though, I must confess.

[@onlypatience]

Basically, Leatherman is heading into an interesting future in terms of design. The Free P series tool does a lot of things right. But what we don't like is the thinner quality of individual tools. The can opener will certainly do the job, but the awl is a joke compared to standard Leatherman awls. The size of the file is also too small here. Conclusion, we can be excited to see what Leatherman brings in the future.

[@Bobboberttt]

I think the ruler is for measuring screws

[@MichaelSeneschal]

This is by far the best review of the Free series I've seen. You explained the difference better than even BladeHQ. Great explanations and insight

[@txtoolcrib]

Wow, that is quite the compliment! I never dreamed I would have seen my channel mentioned in the same sentence with BladeHQ. Thank you.

[@250rapid]

Great review, thanks! 👍...When it comes to the new sheath 1:30 the P2 fit better when you clip it on to the sheath, leaving the pocket clip on the outside, that way it won't be so bulky and the cover flap can be snapped in place without any issue, but why have the pocket clip on the tool if you're using a sheath?🙄 ... Anyhow, the P4 suppose to be in the sheath with the lanyard ring facing up so it can be easily pull out by grabbing the lanyard, but like you mentioned in your video, if you don't use lanyards might as well get rid of it, that way you'll be able to one hand open the outside accessible tools.

[@txtoolcrib]

You're absolutely right about the P2 fitting much better when you clip it onto the front of the sheath. The thing I don't like about the lanyard placement on these two tools is that they are on the plier side of the multi tool instead of the bottom. It seems to me that if you did decide to use a lanyard it would be in the way whenever you were using the pliers. I should have touched on that in the video, seems like I always forget something.

[@250rapid]

@@txtoolcrib Drilling same diameter holes on the bottom side to relocate the pocket clip or lanyard ring will work, but not enough room, they will interfere with the blades opening and small tools locking tabs, that's the reason why they are on the pliers side. You can always use a lanyard with detachable lobster clip clamp though🙄

[@Tandemdesigns]

I think it's important to note who this tool is marketed too. It's not for the everyday contractor or blue collar worker and the price point represents that. Just look at the website, they are targeting the 20 and 30 somethings that love to tinker and have the next new thing. It's clearly represented in all marketing imagery (hunters, trendy camper lady, guy repairing motorcycle) it's not for professionals. They will sell a ton of these, because that section of the market is growing rapidly. I think this tool is pretty cool, but man, I am part of that demographic, 26 year old full time photographer.

[@txtoolcrib]

Alex Tourigny You have a very good point, and articulated it extremely well. I believe that you are correct, these new multi tools will find their place within the market. They have some excellent engineering design incorporated into the tools and they are the cool hip thing in the world of multi tools. I certainly don’t feel they are marketed towards the professional users either. I was not thrilled, nor did I understand, their marketing strategy. It seemed to me, that from the initial release at SHOT Show, they made it a point to bash on their own most popular multi tool, the Wave. The FREE does this better, and that better, and on and on and on..... I don’t have a problem that this is marketed towards the younger crowd. Why not say something more along the lines of, “A new tool, for a new generation! Designed to help you be more productive so you can get back to the more important things in life. When time is of the essence, choose Leatherman .” I think the way they marketed it from the beginning really irked me personally.

[@Tandemdesigns]

TX Tool Crib thank you, great review though! It’s nice to see someone be more critical and honest.

[@txtoolcrib]

Alex Tourigny You’re very welcome. Again, thank you for contributing your thoughts. It is honestly one the most intelligent things anyone has commented on one of my videos.

[@Tandemdesigns]

TX Tool Crib your correct though, it’s bad practice to bash one one of your most successful tools, and he was wrong. I think that that the individual who gave the shot show demo didn’t speak for the the brand.

[@Ukraine-is-Corrupt]

Amazing job Ben (again) .... You should be a lecturer in Mechanical Engineering at a University

[@bukshotrogue1215]

very nice in-depth look at em.

[@cameronscott9248]

Its wierd, I agree with everything you say regarding the P4, I main a Charge+ G10, but for I tend to reach for the P4 when I know Im working in tight spaces, that genuine one handed application I guess. Everything else the charge rules supreme, but for one hand tight work, the P4 has its niche. Could be cheaper, considering tho. Great review!

[@xst-k6]

feedback for Leatherman: When the pliers are activated, there needs to be a locking feature (heavyduty) that prevent the handles from closing partiallyy or fully. Also please make P4 lighter than the Wave? thx

[@SaltineChips]

The only reason as to why I got the free P2, was because people looked at me like a murderer whenever I have the wave on me. California's great. 10/10.

[@txtoolcrib]

Why do you suppose they see the P2 as less threatening?

[@SaltineChips]

@@txtoolcrib I don't know, I think it's because I can place it in my pocket. It's the same reason as to why I stopped carrying any fixed blade.

[@jaredharris1970]

I just got a skeletool off eBay for 35 bucks in excellent condition now I’m trying to decide on my second multi tool I’m torn between P-1,P2 or surge any recommendations?

[@Horde334]

depends what your looking for if you have a skeletool like you have now I'd go for the surge so that way you have your more pocket friendly compact multi tool and then you keep the surge as a more heavy duty use tool that acts more like a "compact tool kit" you can throw in a pack or keep in the glovebox of a car or anywhere else. Personally i'd not recommend any of the free series tools cause I see them as awful value for money for a few reasons as followed magnetically held in place tools just are an accident waiting to happen, the knifeblade is 420hc and at the asking price of the free series when the charge aluminum/titanium are on the market for 20$ more with a significantly better blade steel, the free series in my opinion lack a bit driver of any kind and have also poorly designed tools the 2d Phillip's screwdriver is a joke of a tool along with too many flathead screwdrivers (Seriously why in the hell did they have 4 flat head screwdrivers), the files a stubby and worthless length for any real use imo, and last but not least it just screams "Designed by an intern who doesn't use tools at all". Honestly my recommendation is a wave plus if you want a medium sized tool that's still capable.

[@YungSteambuns]

One thing that annoys me are the people who don't understand the free p4 1. It's completely 100% usable with just 1 hand 2. It was a completely new design 3. I do wish it had a bit driver... I started out with a skeletool aswell Now I have a Crunch And Free P4 I work on cars and also do mold remediation where I spend alot of time in attic with fog heads that need adjusting and torn apart for cleaning So your career and life style may vary

[@dgunn4408]

so the P2 is a wingman and the P4 is a Swisstool, but with mustard on them. Got it! 100% agree with the magnet concerns. I carry an inspection screwdriver with a magnet on the handle for operating flow meters (internal magnet switches) in my breast pocket and I'll tell you right now that thing is constantly picking up metal debris from all the work we do with iron pipe and crusty old fire hydrants. I can't imagine a magnet in the inner workings of a multitool being a good idea, at least for us industrial types. I'm sure there are many environments out there for it, but certainly worth hanging a light on this one.

[@RedNocturne]

I feel like if this tool was a bit (A LOT) cheaper, maybe had less tools built in and was marketed differently, it could be a good option for people who just need something to keep in their car for emergencies or for camping trips. At its current price point though, it’s almost impossible to recommend. I think they missed the mark here.

[@danriver3108]

too much mechanical function information but not utility information or demonstration

[@txtoolcrib]

Well, that would be because this is just an overview. I have other videos on these tools that might be more what you are looking for.

[@Mezna539]

First day of hard use on my new P2. You hit it right on the head with how the handles dig into your hands. As well as the lock release has some very sharp feeling edges. Hate the combo edge blade. Hate the tiny file and not having the diamond coating. The wire stripper is a total joke. I love the one handed operations. I do commercial HVAC and use my Leatherman all day long. I was really excited about Leatherman’s second attempt at a one handed multi tool (first being the OHT obviously) I’ll give it some more time, but so far I’m on the fence. Great video! Thanks.

[@txtoolcrib]

Thanks for comments. I would imagine that in HVAC work you are constantly around metal shards and shaving. Maybe you could get back with us to let us know if the magnets in the P2 pick up a lot of trash, and if so how long. It would be interesting to see how these tools perform in different industries.

[@IamACanadian47]

I work at a hardware store right now and I have to say the Wave is by far the most useful one-does-it-all tool (customers come in with all kinds of problems; bit exchanger for hex or Robertson for furniture or license plate installs, diamond sharpener to keep our water hose cutter going, serrated blade for cutting rope, large flat head for prying open cans of paint, tiny scissors to open skillfully and then reseal packages, wood & metal sharpener to smooth edges on poorly finished products, real long ruler to see if it's a metric or sae bolt and its length, heavy wire cutters for small chain and wire jewellery screwdriver for battery compartment on watches and scales AND big curvy can opener for lunch 🤓), so unfortunately I'm disappointed that in the last few years from leatherman there has been the Signal (too much plastic IMO) the juice cs3 (half juice just to get the famous s2 scissors) and now the free (urban edc folks who don't actually use the tool daily or even monthly will love it) is very disheartening 😔

[@Mezna539]

Food for thought: So, I spoke to Leatherman today and they stated that all future orders of the P4 will be sent out with the pocket clip. Also, I uploaded a new video of my P2 after a few days of hard use. My unboxing video was swayed due to anticipation and excitement. (Oops)

[@txtoolcrib]

A-Aron M. Thank you for letting us know that. If I may ask, what are the points that have lessened your excitement about the new models?

[@Mezna539]

Same comment thread, up just a couple, I left you a list. I also added a second video after a couple days and receiving several questions.

[@rendermanpro]

You mentioned steel quality. What is the best grade steel quality from all of your's (or in general) multi-tools and knifes? I mean if I wanna buy top quality build steel, what models do you suggest?

[@txtoolcrib]

Ask 5 different people, you’ll get 5 different answers. The 420HC that Leatherman uses on its blades is fine for a general use knife. I personally like like the 154CM blades on the Charge+ the best. Better edge retention without being overly difficult to sharpen. Leatherman Charge+ TTi comes with an S30V blade. Theoretically it is better. I just prefer a slightly softer blade. Another consideration, the harder the blades steel, the less forgiving it is to bending. Victorinox uses a bit softer blade steel than the 420HC. You’ll notice that their blades have a tendency to bend instead of break under loads or misuse. Personally, I think the 420HC is a good higher end budget steel. Lots of people will criticize just to have something to criticize. Really it all comes down to personal preference, and in my case that is 154CM.

[@JosheyG34]

Still the same shit blade steel

[@kernlkajun1]

Informative review; I purchased the P4 b/c of the 1 handed operation of all tools including closing. I ordered the LM driver b/c it should fit over the Phillips tool and store in extra pockets of the LM holder. If and when the magnets draw too much carbon I’ll return it for refurb under the 25 year warranty. In short, this is the tool for me.

[@joegahagan2466]

Everyone is blowing this guy over his review. It sucks. These new free Leatherman tools are the best ever built. Everything is one hand opening and all the tools are outboard the metal fillings on the magnets are not a problem. I work around metal all the time they clean easy and are tougher than any Leatherman I've ever owned everything in this review is nothing but bullshit. This tooll is awesome in the real world your will realize it's genius when your holding something in one hand and only have one hand free which is almost every situation. This tool can diploy every implement with one hand. No other multitool before it has that capibilty

[@joegahagan2466]

I've put my p2 through extreme hard use without a peoblem

[@txtoolcrib]

Well, you’re definitely in the minority.

[@ryukimura7302]

Nice review. I hope you can improve your audo quality

[@txtoolcrib]

I have.

[@geektarded]

I love my wave+ but I have to admit I always reach for my P4 now after buying it.

[@Ayrton4everrr]

09:52 it could be not just strenght as in size, but in tempering and material

[@skyweb6560]

Biggest thing holding me back was lack of bit driver. Yeah i don't use that tool much, but why take it away, its nice to have in case i need it.