Overwatch 2 Tiktoks To Watch Between Ranked Queues

[@Gfurys]

Ow2 tiktoks are always incredible and fascinating, like watching monkeys fling poop at each other

[@contentconsumer3743]

Just needs an Animal Planet logo in the corner

[@rioriorio17]

And sometimes you get the occasional piece of homemade grandma brownie, very rarely though

[@bendover5786]

Very true I was the monkey

[@boomdogg38]

you really thought you did something here

[@horokai]

Accurate

[@TheRonaldNess]

@ 10:39 - Tree of Life (their own ult) - Coalescence (Enemy) - Terra Surge (Enemy) - Amplification Matrix (Friendly) - EMP (Enemy) - Barrage (Enemy) - Sound Barrier (Enemy) - Duplicate: Coalescence (Friendly) - Deadeye (Friendly) ... not overwhelming at all right?

[@Sikkne0n]

someone didnt get the memo to join the party in that lobby. just missing 1 ult lol

[@SixNineFourTwenty]

​@@Sikkne0nJQ slacking

[@DatMageDoe]

Not just that, it took 17 seconds and 7 ultimates for SOMEONE to die (the Orisa).

[@KuroiHoshiV]

That's some GOATS level of ult trading

[@nomercy1712]

now that is what you call an ult Domino or Ultpocolypse.

[@computernoise2209]

"Wait, we won?" - Every Overwatch player ever

[@HeWhoSoars.]

Gigantic is coming back on April 9th!!!!

[@DrewHoward-tk1jz]

the screen clutter made me think it was ilios for a sec 💀💀

[@lyricalvarez7919]

Jokes on you part 2, I’m in open queue.

[@fedemendezmendez]

They are the same but without the ranks. They made QP even more tryhard than ranked.

[@trasex8572]

Played it for the first time earlier ranked and we were up against 3 tanks and we had 1 me and not getting healed, we lost I switched because I was pissed so then we had 4 tanks

[@jarskii11]

​@@fedemendezmendezHow can you make qp More try hard than ranked?

[@HeWhoSoars.]

Gigantic is coming back on April 9th!!!!

[@TheOneWhoReportsForDuty]

5v5 has unsolvable problems, 6v6 has unsolvable problems, let’s just go 12v12 and see what happens.

[@sethalmand9901]

We'd basically be playing battlefield with OW characters at that point 😂

[@EndSpawnShadow]

He thought I was baiting as I put on my glasses I actually didn’t think he’d react to the video 😂

[@denjii9]

if queue times are the biggest issue with 6v6 then thats something theyre 100% just choosing to ignore, you cant compare the queue times for tank during the most insufferable tank metas in the game while the game cost $40 to play and there were absolutely no incentives to fill, now that the game is f2p and double shield would not exist theres no reason to think that queue times would be bad while tank is a fun role to play, and if the queue times do get bad how about they offer actual rewards to people that fill not just 50 exp or whatever they do, give them bonus comp points or let them pick legendary skins if they fill enough times, an actual reason to play a role you arent comfortable with

[@exterminator1776]

8:43 I do agree with his selections but I hear his reasons in every rank that i've been in.

[@MrPanaramuh]

As a plat support player, me and the wife usually counterswap the most. DPS is usually the ones who stick to their guns and expect us to make it work.

[@anonymall]

​@@MrPanaramuh as a plat flex (all roles) player, support players are definitely the most stubborn. Mercy Moira literally every single game (especially before season 9).

[@MrPanaramuh]

@anonymall see, I'm plat in all roles too and besides the mercy, supports are usually the ones to swap. Dps who refuse to swap are genji, hanzo for our location. Tank, ironically, are doom/hampters. Could be isolated but I hate when you're playing comp, and people refuse to swap to help the team. It's comp guys..we should be trying everything to win.

[@HeWhoSoars.]

Gigantic is coming back on April 9th!!!!

[@yungwallione157]

I would test 6v6 as an arcade mode for a limited time and see how it works in the current platform

[@Shrimp4Gura]

For months now there have been 6v6 lobbies in the game browser that are basically using the ow1 ults/abilities/health pools. And arcade doesnt have role queie so it would just devolve to GOATS

[@HeWhoSoars.]

Gigantic is being revived on April 9th!!!!

[@breadaholic6445]

@@Shrimp4Gurathen add role queue to specifically that mode, or change quick play like they did that one time

[@Wombatsgone]

10:09 THIS IS SO REAL. I was in high plat for quite a while, and it was ALWAYS the supports who were dogshit and making bronze ass mistakes.

[@HeWhoSoars.]

Gigantic is being revived on April 9th!!!!

[@jschlattfunnymic3069]

literally took the first half of the video to get through one tiktok

[@dyw__]

Fr

[@HeWhoSoars.]

Gigantic is being revived on April 9th!!!!

[@davidnewhart2533]

Was not expecting a lore powerscaling video. That took me off guard. 😂

[@HeWhoSoars.]

Gigantic is coming back on April 9th!!!!

[@xd_Corruption]

Every time I watch one of these I play the game "How many tiktoks will he get to watch through his unskippable dialogue?''.

[@LokyGF]

11:51 The answer to your question is "Yes"

[@HeWhoSoars.]

Gigantic is coming back on April 9th!!!!

[@Rayn481]

Overwatch TikTok’s to watch while in between helldivers missions

[@AinsleyTheBard]

Flats just said Being back 6v6 your heard it! He said it!!!!!

[@JAxz5]

Counterswap will never stop, even in qp is being done as soon as posible

[@donnieorton958]

I forget how big Flats is sometimes, not *LITERALLY*… but his channel

[@TheHenrytouchdown]

Hey, i haven't played ow in years, and didn't really ever go into ranked as a solo player. But wouldn't a 5v5 where you pick which of the roles only gets 1 player make it more interesting to play? Or would that be to hard to balance around?

[@maskedcorn7756]

That worst rank vid got me thinking. Cause I'm a silver tank and I cry for healing all the time. Now I know that I'm the problem.

[@t.j.maverick7830]

It's weird, though. Because hardstuck silver supports are hardstuck because they don't rotate their heals between players (or with their damage output) well. It's not surprising silver tanks get frustrated with the inconsistency. BUT, that said, you can't fix the supports. I didn't get my tank out of silver until I learned how to work the maps better to protect myself from damage.

[@peachyninja7799]

there should be multiple different game modes in qp and comp. 5v5 role, 6v6 role, and 6v6 open and 5v5 open.

[@Yummymarshy]

I played a lot of support in overwatch 1 and 6v6 just felt better you didn’t need to heal as much giving you more space to shoot and counter swaps were pretty rare. Although I feel some of the new characters would be overpowered in 6v6 like rem, Mauga, lifeweaver and illari.

[@blueberryzz_z]

I didn’t realize how confusing over watch clips must look until this video right after this I went tangent showing my friends my clips in the end the same question kept coming up “wtf is going on”

[@itsendy-g2p]

10:35 Yeah I think they over'd that watch reallll good

[@HeWhoSoars.]

Gigantic is finally coming back on April 9th!!!!

[@Chunkyloops]

Complete and utter visual and sensory overload

[@Hogonetrick]

1:28 the time i see mauga is counter swap because im a Road hog main and that mauga counter road hog that is kind of true

[@Punchbadguy]

Me and my buddies play open queue from time to time since it's reminiscent of ow1 6v6. Mauga is still a massive problem in that mode which imo says that he would be a problem in 6v6. Its really sad seeing the release of good ow2 tank designs like rammatra or queen and then there's mauga.

[@HeWhoSoars.]

Gigantic is coming back on April 9th!!!!

[@Battleress2]

re: 5v5 versus 6v6 if the primary argument against 6v6 is that fights can stagnate (as so often happened in the double shield meta), then im gonna say rn - hot as this take may be, flame me or whatever idc - i would rather have stagnant games than not be able to play bc i as the tank am exploding or on dps/supp my tank cannot create space. THATS why i want 6v6 back, bc at least if the game stagnates, it feels more like an evenly balanced game then getting absolutely rolled every game just bc the enemy team has decided to counterswap our tank no matter who they play.

[@Omaryllo]

What we need is an 8v8 flats endorsed

[@SnowDoggo]

flats i need that edate you promised

[@HeWhoSoars.]

I cant wait to play Gigantic again. I am so fed up with OW

[@connorchittum2499]

Hell yuh my fav content takes are always on point

[@HeWhoSoars.]

Gigantic is finally being revived on April 9th!!!!

[@josephreynolds2401]

It's the PM and I don't queue ranked but the title fits well enough.

[@SmokeyOwOs]

Certified Roll for Sandwich moments

[@requiemcurse]

Why yes let me distract myself from my tank ques.....

[@andrewmarquez7387]

Guys he said it "bring back 6v6" clip it

[@travasicus]

Not half the video being one tiktok 😭

[@abrawolf]

Lowkey, make tank passive the ability to maintain most your ult charge when you switch, either half or two thirds of what you have when you swap

[@juridiscious5517]

What? Wasn’t the entire point of keeping less ult charge to discourage switching characters? Implementing this change would definetely see the issue of counterswapping being much more prevalent and it’d be an even worse experience than before.

[@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong]

That would just incentivize counterswap more what.

[@jarskii11]

Dude is so off with this take. Rather have like changing brings ult charge To 0 and have debuff for like minute where you dont get ult charge at all or at reduced rate.

[@1andonlyMiro]

I main Moira and I used to only play her in comp. I still pretty mich 1-trick but I've been playing dps and tank for shits and giggles at times. At first I wondered why people were hating on Moira so much (on their own team) but once I played some low elo games as other roles I quickly realised the reason 😂

[@Stiffmiester979]

My first Mauga game I ended up just swapping to JQ because the other Mauga had way better supports than I did. Got him to swap off, and we won. I'm def not a great Mauga but I dislike how heavily he relies on his supports to survive. At least on JQ I was able to put a bit of work in before inevitably dying to their zen.

[@cooldiego7]

Im like the few people who honestly love playing mauga

[@azseal2669]

Let's just forget about 5v5 and 6v6 argument. Let's make it either a 4v4 or a 7v7 conversation instead. I'm sure that will absolutely not backfire in any way and open up better discourse for cool heads to prevail.

[@dragonfyres9002]

On lijang tower have you never used cass' roll to get from the garden area to the middle over the gap? its even more spooky than mercy

[@ameri5903]

I think that the fix for the issue of the first tik tok is more constant patches people hate Mauga and Orisa because they played against them for way too long so more constant patches is genuinely a good fix if something is really good let's not wait until mid season for it to get fixed

[@XxDream_CasterxX]

Have they even tested 6v6, it's like we went straight to 5v5.

[@kregman6928]

that first tiktok, that guy is just correct. they have to change their design philosophy as a whole because its no longer 6v6. im sure they have done so already but they have to be strict with it. tank matchups arent all counterswap based and its only extremely bad for 2 of them. and the easy fix for this would be just removing orisa from the game entirely. her design is abolsutely fucking atrocious and thats without even thinking about how she makes it impossible to play 2 tanks into her. if they fix her and then fix mauga then the tank meta wont be so horrifically swap based. 5v5 is not unfixable like 6v6 was. 6v6 issues were so much and so deeprooted that it literally could never be balanced. people who say 5v5 is unbalanceable are honestly just lacking critical thinking skills.

[@jarskii11]

You are so wrong. 6v6 was not unfixable. It would been easy fix if they would even tried, but it was easier To just make 5v5 and wait until People realise the bigger problems 5v5 has than 6v6 could ever have. The counterpicking meta will be In the game for as long as there is only 1 tank. Its too easy and too effective. It is ridiculous To play tank now and that is the reason why tank players are gone from the game. Tldr blizz is a joke

[@kregman6928]

@@jarskii11 another person just saying its unfixable without ever giving a reason why. balancing for 10 champs is much easier than balancing for 12 and that will always be a truth. the fix right now is simple. remove orisa from the game. or buff rein in a way that allows him to actually be useful, he needs a full rework. then the tank counter pick meta is gone. and just so you are aware, tank counter pick meta has been a thing since overwatch 1 but people just choose to leave that out of their minds because hurr durr overwatch 2 is bad. overwatch 1 was literally unfixable. its impossible to balance for 12 heroes in the game at once. its literally impossible

[@denjii9]

@kregman6928 theoretical numbers dont mean shit in practice, balancing 5v5 would be easier if they made a brand new game and designed it to be 5v5, every part of this game was designed to work in a 6v6 setting so now theyre ending up having to do drastic change after drastic change gutting characters until they have to completely rework them because their designs dont work in a 5v5 setting, like roadhog. IN PRACTICE 5v5 is much more of a long term nightmare to balance than 6v6 role queue would be, also the point of balance is not so everything will be equal its so everything is playable, and the current hero designs make some of them unplayable compared to others. every problem we encountered in 6v6 in terms of tank metas were directly caused by the way they were making support characters, there were times even in rolequeue where 6v6 was more balanced than ow2 was throughout any patch that was released

[@kregman6928]

@@denjii9 xD your entire argument for theoretical numbers is applied directly to your balance for 6v6. that mode was unbalanced and all of your dreams of it being balanced are exclusively based in theory. "they just needed to remove this" "they just needed to change this character" "this character just shouldnt have existed" these are all fixes that we never know would work and we still dont know if those changes would have worked. 6v6 failed horribly. your memories of 6v6 are based on nostalgia and nothing else. if the game remained 6v6, it would have had to go through even more drastic changes than it is going through now (its not even going through drastic changes, idk why you think changing dps passive is such a huge change) you seem to forget how problematic roadhog has been as a character since overwatch 1. he was changed multiple times until he was nerfed to a point of unplayablility and reliance exclusively on a hook and nothing else. so they made the character better with a rework. pharah was extremely oppressive in any elo where dps cant aim so they had to fix it. they are quite literally currently balancing the game, unlike in the first game. they had to change THE ENTIRE GAME because of how bad the first game was balanced. they had TO INTRODUCE ROLE LOCK because of how bad the game was balanced. 6v6 will never be balanceable. I prefer 6v6, I had so much more fun playing tank in 6v6 but thats it, i have more fun on the other roles in 5v5 than I ever did in 6v6. balance is an issue of charcater being playable and thats true. and right now there are only 3 characters in this game that need changes and then everything is playable. orisa needs a severe rework again. maybe bring back her shield or the drum or something but remove the fortification. or just make it so her E interacts as if its a charge so it knocks down rein and her instead of making rein literally a useless hero. so orisa gets changed, rein is playable, he might need a rework because his kit is so severely old school that he has been powercrept. next hero is mauga. he is just boring, not fun to play against or play as but he can be dealt with so its not urgent. and finally sombra, she needs to be adressed now before she becomes a menace again, she has to drop back down to 200hp. 250 is far too much for a flanker of her level. these things get changed and the game will feel much better. balance is worked towards and isnt instant. saying 5v5 is unbalanceable is absolutely braindead when the reality of 6v6 is that it couldnt be balanced.

[@denjii9]

@@kregman6928 we can directly see cause and effect with our own eyes, goats wasnt a comp until they released brig, double shield became a massive problem with baptiste, we've seen directly from patches itself that double shield fell out of meta when baptiste was nerfed, this isnt theory we have multiple instances of them overloading a support leading to the game being miserable to play. ive also had way more fun playing support and dps in 6v6 i had way more agency over what i could do and who i could target and there was always somebody to shoot. also no its not just 3 characters, zen doesnt need discord in 5v5, hamster plays like dva winston and doom and the only reason hes strong now is because dps passive doesnt matter much to adaptive shield but that doesnt change the faults in his kit in 5v5, if he tries to play disruptive like he used to his team just gets bodied so now all tanks and supports have to play like dps characters and the characters have to lose the things that made them interesting so they can fit the mold that 5v5 creates. reins identiy was that he could either block damage or do massive damage which made the character have weaknesses, this was balanced with another tank having different strengths and weaknesses, in order for a character like rein to ever work in 5v5 theyd have to change his kit so he has no weaknesses and does everything, notice how how every tank theyve released has had a sustain ability? orisa sigma jq mauga ram ball? rein was a fun character because regardless of him not having sustain built into his kit the other tank made it so it didnt matter as much. 5v5 is balanceable but the gameplay in its perfect balance will never be as fun competitive engaging or even as rewarding as 6v6 would be when its balanced(which it has been) so its not even worth pursuing imo

[@TheCorruptionKing]

Counter is so bad wah wah wah.... T_T me waiting for the hero lock mode to enter the game. You know the map, attack or defend. Make your pick. Stuck with it. Decision making skills rewarded more, adapting regarded more

[@piusdoe8984]

Hero lock.. in overwatch. The game that distinguishes itself by hero swapping. You must enjoy being laughed out of rooms

[@DeikRoschmann-bf1rj]

10:40 thats OW2 not that a sojourn and a mercy can whipe out an entire team alone because of a dps per bullet of 5 or something

[@Shrimp4Gura]

"T500 players are dumb as rocks" i mean, there's Super lol

[@markomanx]

10:35: This is why we keep playing this game that we swear isn't ever good lol

[@dizzymoosic]

We live for the chaos

[@morty_smith9602]

I love Maga. Big gun go brrrrrrrrrrr 2: Electric Boogaloo

[@terrabyte7010]

Flats I love hearing you laugh at 2x speed🤤🤤🤤

[@Delbs1]

YESSIR, We backk

[@TrevByTheTon300]

You are open to it now because even you're tired of the game flow. However you cut it 5v5 6v6, theres counter picks. Now ESPECIALLY for tanks lol.

[@anettelma123]

about first tik tok Im sure I would have play tank if I would have another tank to support me. Im mostly support player and playing tank is painful lol, especially in zenyatta season, I cant feel when I should go for space and where to hide so most of the time Im dead or waiting for tank (thats me lol??) to do sth xD then I leave the game and go for support/dps/mystery heroes lol

[@evanbrand939]

What of rank was applied to your character instead of account and you had to pick who you wanted to play and then que into comp

[@Bongkaiii]

Guys never wrong, exhausting human

[@220904416]

Fella at the beginning is effectively complaining that he shouldn't have to take responsibility to counterswap and benefit his team, i.e., "I want to play my favourite character and if you counterswap you're ruining the game." I counterswap so often specifically to get under the skin of the enemy tank, and oh boy, it really does work. It doesn't matter if I'm 50% ult or 95% ult, I will swap regardless.

[@rioriorio17]

Mauga has so many problems and is easily the worst designed tank ever, yet the first clip failed to mention ANY of the actual problems with his kit.

[@exseen24]

i wanna see 2 tanks, 2 dps and 1 healer for a season or something

[@Shrimp4Gura]

That 1 support would be playing respawn simulator

[@OrgasmicFury]

That's basically open que

[@josephreynolds2401]

​@@Shrimp4Gura More like get flamed all game by 4 people for not healing....while dead.

[@Shrimp4Gura]

@@josephreynolds2401 whats the difference?

[@josephreynolds2401]

@@Shrimp4Gura Double motherfucking whammy is the difference.

[@anthonyeaton1417]

daddy flats

[@contentconsumer3743]

That’s zaddy

[@sera48g]

Truth

[@PolrisTired]

I’m sorry but how did she call the map Esperanka with a straight face. Has she never listened to the announcer say it??? Or read the name to know it’s stylized as a ç?

[@amanormaybeadragon]

How do people get the map name pronounciation so wrong when theres literally an announcer that says it before every game

[@xxcrisxx3693]

Where is roll for sandwich reactions?

[@supern0is349]

if 6x6 is coming back then i DEMAND that doomfist be turned back into DPS and anyone who disagress is moraly repulsive

[@jamondecampo2050]

LETS GOOOOOOO Tiktok reaction!!!! :D

[@HeWhoSoars.]

Gigantic is coming back on April 9th!!!!

[@houseofhank3896]

Oo ocie cameo

[@lukealvarez6650]

the ice wall

[@ExiphVG]

dps in overwatch is totally different than any other shooter, ive played R6, battlefield, cod, pubg, csgo, and ill say, aiming in overwatch is very unforgiving. it might be the huge health bars who knows.

[@drowzydullahan]

Hey Flats, I'm sorry for this being a bit random. Wasn't really sure where to ask. But if you see this, I was curious if you'd seen Gigantic, and if you had any interest in it at all?

[@josewolf9884]

if you want to get his answer its probably easier if you ask him during his streams, I don't think he replies to KZbin comments.

[@NoSleepDaChimney]

What if we say screw it and just go 7v7 and bring back defense characters 😂😂

[@KURENANI]

This would be AWESOME

[@Heavyisthecrown-f7q]

Is this boogie? Lol

[@WizardBrandon]

Report that mei for griefing

[@J.R.Swish1]

Mei players smoke indoors in public settings

[@benjaminlear1619]

Damn straight bring back 6v6

[@bright_and_breezy-n2e]

I'll say this till I'm blue in the face. Make ults matter again and counter swapping will become less of a problem and more of a strategic choice

[@sinister0077]

Shouldve kept it 6v6 and split the tank roll into main and off... same with healers... and split dps into hit scan and projectile. Yes, im a noob.

[@digi34]

What are some of the issues you see in 5v5 and would they align to or be similar to issues you see in 6v6?

[@jarskii11]

First biggest issue is that tank has To play the swap game with other tank he could help with these situations. Now its just too easy and effective To full counter enemy tank. Its boring To play when you have no say over what hero you play as. Second. Tank gameplay is way More boring now. With 2 tanks you have like 60combinations you can play. Now you have as many tanks you have In game. Playing with second tank is so fun when you coordinate and play together. You had some really good combos you could do. That all was taken away. Core gameplay was made way shittier with 5v5 than 6v6

[@TevAndo886]

IMO that clip asking to explain it to a non-OW player is why something like OWL will never be popular. eSports will only take off if someone who has never played the game can watch it and at least follow what's going on. OW's game design is so complicated that no one other than an OW player would ever care about watching it.

[@jellyghost6878]

Crying for heals happens at all elos lol

[@SophSophSoph298]

There were a lot of interesting "mauga is flawed" takes my favourite being is that his design is based upon pure hard numbers with absolutely no depth so there is no character unique expressions. The first guys take is kinda just eh

[@tau-5794]

He could be good if they somehow disincentivized firing both guns all the time, the easiest way to do this is if they just nerfed the spread back to S7 playtest levels. Then make his cardiac give a set amount of heals per second instead of a percentage, and increase his overhealth gain.

[@Horchata4lyfe]

People hate playing Mauga? He's my favorite tank theyve released nect to Ram but playing tank just feels hoooooorrible to play in general right now 😭

[@jarskii11]

Well mauga is literally most boring ass design you could make. I think monkey could Come up with better ideas. Damn the game was horrible when it forced you To play that shit.

[@alexandergustafson599]

Roll for sandwich 🥺

[@bteng000]

roll for sandwich :C

[@Fourty-seven-ducks]

Give us 7v7. 7 tanks!!

[@ImEcchi]

Going to 5v5 is probably where Overwatch lost a lot of money. I hope people know and statistics show it too. People don’t play ranked as much. Up until this most recent season. It’s quickplay. Why? People are sometimes full squad queuing to hangout with friends. I won’t ever boot up a game that would leave someone out. Which is why I never play Apex Legends, 3??? When 4 co-op multiplayer has been a staple for gaming since the dawn of consoles? Sure. let’s just do 3 players only.

[@jarskii11]

Lol. Going 5v5 made them so much money

[@denjii9]

@@jarskii11going f2p and changing all their monetization made them money, the gameplay is worse but who cares right

[@volts400]

Gym now

[@r2_flixy550]

Let’s go new react pog!

[@ReedoTV]

Boomer apologises to boomers for not watching tiktok. It truly is the end times

[@marvynjeanbaptiste3206]

Open queue >

[@MrCheese4cake]

Spends 6 minutes out of a 13 minute video talking about a 30 second video.

[@Jakethayne]

Woop

[@johne2697]

They should drop it to 4v4. That’ll fix all the issues

[@chrisquirion7738]

Hot take. Winston worst tank in the game.

[@notsosaltygator]

Rather play/fightmauga

[@ItzT3XU]

7v7

[@LatencyProblem]

Why stop at 7. We goin 10v10 lets gooo

[@mentarium9741]

@@LatencyProblem make it an mmo. 50v50. we got this

[@ganymede19]

3:15 These are SOFT counters at best 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@bewagoon7446]

Just make open q 6v6

[@brandonray4493]

Ramatra design is lame... once you get the cool down cycle down it's crazy boring and predictable. Tank is trash in 5v5... just bring back 6v6. It's better. Period.

[@superduper4696]

Too many brawl tanks ow2. Every single new tank (except doom) is a brawl tank. The niche is over saturated making heros like rein obsolete