Éowyn: Book vs Movie

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[@Jess_of_the_Shire]

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[@zantosender3348]

People are always very surprised when I tell them the "I am no man" bit was in the book (albeit more eloquent).

[@30110CKs]

"She is actively trying to get herself killed". Exactly. I've always thought that the reason she can stand up to the Witch King is because his primary weapon is fear and Eowyn has basically resigned herself to death already, would welcome it, she has nothing left to be afraid of.

[@philiptaylor7902]

It’s important to remember that Eowyn believes Aragorn to be dead, to have thrown his life away on a mad journey through the paths of the dead, when she seeks death in battle as Dernhelm. This is part of the source of her despair.

[@eidolon1809]

Many don't understand that Éowyn doesn't submit or capitulate when she accepts Faramir's love: what he is offering her is a higher calling than death in battle. She comes from a far more primitive society that sees physical strength and violence as the path to achievement, but Gondor's leaders are revered for being learned and wise. Faramir knows that to build, to heal and to nurture the earth is what we fight for, and the reason why he and Sam the Gardener understand each other. In the Fourth Age Éowyn and Faramir, as the Princess and Prince of Ithilien, will heal the wounds that Sauron and the Witch-king inflicted on that land. Definitely an upgrade from anything life in Rohan would have offered her.

[@BooRadley742]

The Theoden/Eowyn relationship is one of my favorite dynamics in the movies. They feel very human and real compared to everyone else. "I know your face" always gets me.

[@erikagehm2805]

Eowyn was 18 to 21 years old, max 25, in the books. She is young, bitter, and in pain. She lived through her father being killed, her mother's death due to illness, her cousin being killed, her brother running off, and left as a caregiver for her dying and mentally idled/brainwashed uncle and king. Plus, she was at the mercy of Wormtongue and the corrupt and other court officials. She naturally wanted to be a man to have some self-agency/autonomy because she equated those 2 things with being a man.

[@Oakleaf012]

I think what’s notable with Eowyn accepting the role of healer and servant is that Faramir also has that role. They are equals, as much as they can be in that world. She’s not submitting to him, he is simply showing her another, healthier path. One he himself also desires to walk. Anyway I love them ❤ this was a wonderful and nuanced breakdown of the differences in Eowyn’s characterization. Honestly I can’t choose between them: they’re both wonderful in different ways

[@Anthony-sm8wy]

Last time I was this early, Melkor was disrupting the song of creation

[@Video456325]

The impression I always had was as a World War 1 veteran, Tolkien didn’t have a high opinion of people being hyper focused on claiming glory in war. Even if he did use the Rohirrim to play with Pagan ideas of glory in war.

[@anondescriptbullet]

The way people have a double standard towards Eowyn has always been annoying to me. If a male character ended his story with laying down his weapons and forsaking violence, after spending most of the book looking for and idealizing those things, to seek a peaceful life to build a family he'd be hailed as one of the most realistic and inspirational role models in fiction. But when a lady does it she's... submitting to the patriarchy?

[@Nightguardian]

One very important angle that Tolkien portrays in the book through Eowyn's struggle and her eventual love of Faramir is the importance of humility. Tolkien's emphasis on the virtue and strength of humility is repeated throughout so many of his characters, most especially in Frodo and Sam. However, in Eowyn we see a powerful lesson learned: that pride can lead to hopelessness, yet humility leads to healing. This poignant portrayal is an important lesson for all of our lives. I have always loved how Tolkien managedsto hit me so close to home.

[@pendragon2012]

I thought Miranda did a good job. But the written scene is just amazing. "You stand between me and my lord and kin. Begone if ye be not deathless, for living or dark undead, I will smite you if you touch him." Then she laughs and stabs him in the fucking face!!

[@mon_moi]

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[@cliveshergold9467]

"...Christian, male, Oxford professor, from the early 1900s..." who also: fought in the trenches of WWI, and in the middle of it married, and left his wife to return to the front; and who later wrote LOTR mostly under the shadow of WWII in which his children were fighting. People seem to forget that Tolkien was both a lover and a soldier; both are very relevant to these passages.

[@asch7906]

Miranda Otto's return as narrator is my strongest motivation to see the upcoming film War of the Rohirrim.

[@allisongliot]

I love how Faramir in the books is the epitome of humility and that was just the remedy Eowyn needed to overcome her natural tendency of wanting glory and praise in an unhealthy sense.

[@laurashortill8623]

Eowyn turning away from violence rings so true. When I’ve spoken to men and women who survived war, the best adjusted of them, often rather quickly, go home to marry and build a family. Eowyn does it, but so does faramir , so does Samwise. It seems like it is a very healing and human thing to do.

[@GreyPilgrim_Mithrandir]

The most overlooked aspect of both book and movie Eowyn is her single strike death blow on the winged fell beast. Aragorn notes "you have some skill with a blade" but no-one has seen it used in a battle context. Nobody else squared up to one of those beasts, although at the time all she desired was to die fighting as a soldier she still took it on. She's a hero and she's awesome and I think my favourite between book and movie version is book Eowyn simply due to the surprise factor as we didn't know who Dernhelm was untill the helmet came off.

[@khartog01]

The scene I love is the one they took out, but then added to the special editions is the rage of her bother. His scream of sadness as it turns to madness thinking she is dead is great.