British museums respresent everything that we should recognise as inappropriate, says Karma Gad 3/6

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@MenteCuriosa7255
@MenteCuriosa7255 5 ай бұрын
British museum ❌ Chor Bazaar ✅
@allanlloydlim9801
@allanlloydlim9801 4 ай бұрын
Can't even save your own country from your government, cry louder !
@TheChintu-il3sq
@TheChintu-il3sq 5 ай бұрын
In india we call them "Chor Bazar" literally means thieves market!
@manuelmanzanero5057
@manuelmanzanero5057 5 ай бұрын
Interesting. In Spain there are gypsyisms (words taken and adapted from the Caló lexicon) with that same root chor- such as chorear, choricear (to steal) and chorizo ​​(thief).
@raxas7378
@raxas7378 5 ай бұрын
If the Young Lady were to make a similar statement in India, she would be asked to immigrate back to Egypt.
@youssef-lz8fj
@youssef-lz8fj 5 ай бұрын
@@raxas7378 and that would be against freedom of speach, which is sacred to investigate the truth. If she is on the wrong, correct her with facts and teach her how to think.
@raxas7378
@raxas7378 5 ай бұрын
@@youssef-lz8fj Freedom of expression is the keystone of modern democracy. That includes facts, and opinions held. She Is entitled to her opinion too . That is formed by fact and gut feel.
@charananekibalijaun8837
@charananekibalijaun8837 5 ай бұрын
​@@manuelmanzanero5057That's because gypsies are in fact indians
@ftftyffghfvghfcht6701
@ftftyffghfvghfcht6701 5 ай бұрын
when the french discovered the Rosetta Stone it was being used as a rock in a fort. this cant be the best and brightest.
@kaartheikgeiyan6004
@kaartheikgeiyan6004 5 ай бұрын
They are the brightest within the system cultivated. Malaysia has our fair share.
@Elmonsoon
@Elmonsoon 4 ай бұрын
The people of western and northern europe prior to the renaissance would have used the Stone for that or worse. The people of Egypt aren't the same as they were and can't be judged as such. The only question to answer is what would they do with it now. Were you the best and brightest, you wouldn't need me to explain this fact.
@ftftyffghfvghfcht6701
@ftftyffghfvghfcht6701 4 ай бұрын
@@Elmonsoon i dont know why you think thats relevant (or as true). the people who discovered it and their generations after by comparison to the country of origin and their generations after are the topic of discussion
@dwaynehewitt210
@dwaynehewitt210 4 ай бұрын
@@Elmonsoon I'm pretty sure that if those countries ask for these artifacts back, they're going to do more with them than use them as rocks. Sounds like common sense to me.
@dwaynehewitt210
@dwaynehewitt210 4 ай бұрын
Who told you that? It was built into an old wall and it had purpose. Why would they just use it as a rock? What history books are you reading?
@mathaifenn
@mathaifenn 4 ай бұрын
I am from India. We have a lot of old stuff here. But we are more focused on the present and not so much on the past. I suspect that without British Archeology, much of our past would have been lost. I think many artefacts exist today BECAUSE some museum outside India took care of them. In fact, many of the great artefacts belonged to Kingdoms within India that do to exist any more. Who would you return them to? The Mughals? The current regime? The opposition? How can India lay claim to something that changed hands before India existed? Sometimes in our rush to create a post-colonial subaltern history, we tend to forget that there is a common humanity.
@captainwheelbarrow649
@captainwheelbarrow649 4 ай бұрын
Its a tricky problem. The Europeans looted a lot but they also seemed to be more interested in the history of the cultures they were looting then the people or governments of those countries were at the time. Its not about showing off war spoils it shows respect for the ancient cultures and desire to understand them. The girl in the video used the example of the Rosetta stone, well the only reason we can translate ancient Hieroglyphics now is because the Europeans found it and figured it out. Before that it had just been sitting in Egypt for centuries being of no use to anyone. The fact that they were the ones who found it and figured it out means its part of their history now as well. I suspect the modern Egyptians might have an ambivalent attitude towards their past since it was pagan and they are all Muslims now as well.
@jophy02
@jophy02 5 ай бұрын
British museums: where we showcase our remarkable talent for borrowing things and forgetting to return them... for centuries!
@jakesabean
@jakesabean 5 ай бұрын
@@jophy02 buying something or being offered something in a treaty agreement is not “borrowing” it. Have any examples of something we borrowed and didn’t give back?
@RukshanJ
@RukshanJ 5 ай бұрын
I've heard that bulk of manuscripts that contained ancient knowledge of srilanka are also in British museums
@aa6eheia156
@aa6eheia156 5 ай бұрын
​@@RukshanJ having some artifacts in such world renowned museums are important for everlasting preservation of one's identity and heritage. I'm from Nepal and I'm thankful that many of our artifacts are safe in foreign museums with credits and proper descriptions. Countless artifacts, temples were destroyed in Nepal during 2015 earthquake so if those artifacts in those museums were in Nepal, there could've been huge probability that these artifacts got destroyed, buried and turned to ruins
@MikeKang-d5m
@MikeKang-d5m 5 ай бұрын
@@aa6eheia156 Ridiculous. All evils can be justified and rationalized by your way of thinking.
@youssef-lz8fj
@youssef-lz8fj 5 ай бұрын
@@MikeKang-d5m if it does, then it is not evil, and then you should investigate if your labeling is a miss-conseption or a lie.
@אסתר-ק5ב
@אסתר-ק5ב 5 ай бұрын
It's endless - why don't the Egyptians compensate the slave nations they had? (And they had)
@bluesque9687
@bluesque9687 5 ай бұрын
lol! shift the guilt!!
@katnightingale2451
@katnightingale2451 5 ай бұрын
that would be a lot of muslims sending money to jews lmfao. boy, would they hate that lol
@FromPlanetZX
@FromPlanetZX 5 ай бұрын
Yes, go ask the Egyptian.
@redflag4255
@redflag4255 5 ай бұрын
Hebrew/ Israelite history is a fabrication.
@hamzaabbas7150
@hamzaabbas7150 5 ай бұрын
These Egyptian have forgotten how to build pyramids and asking for artifacts which are not technically theirs
@legendsneverdie3186
@legendsneverdie3186 5 ай бұрын
a propos of imperialism, modern egyptians speak arabic and are muslims as a result of arab imperialism
@Rkenton48
@Rkenton48 5 ай бұрын
Too bad they'll never admit that Islam is a colonizing, invasive, propaganda spreading, and violently bloody empire just like every other human civilization that has ever existed since cavemen first started evicting Bears from their caves with sharp sticks and rocks.
@Cardiologyforever
@Cardiologyforever 5 ай бұрын
Culture is much more than just language and religion. Switzerland official languages are French, German, Italian and their own language. Does that make them any of the mentioned nationalities? An easier example, are Americans considered English because they speak English? Egyptian civilisation and culture is much more than that, something maybe beyond your comprehension. Islam is a religion, Egyptians can be Christians ( More than 15% of the population) or atheists or anything, they would still be Egyptians.
@abuminnatur-rahman4198
@abuminnatur-rahman4198 5 ай бұрын
​@@CardiologyforeverChristians are less than 10% in Egypt.
@nirwana07
@nirwana07 5 ай бұрын
@@Cardiologyforever islam is most succesful imperialism.... how does egypt become arabic and islam?
@harry..flashman
@harry..flashman 5 ай бұрын
​@@abuminnatur-rahman4198so its the muslims exclusively responsible for the female mutilation fgm in egypt? its 80% there, the only place similar is somalia. why do they do that to their children in Egypt?
@playmesalsa
@playmesalsa 5 ай бұрын
What did I learn from this speech? That I should visit the Leeds Museum.
@sabinahribarternar7502
@sabinahribarternar7502 5 ай бұрын
Oh please, have any of you actually BEEN to any museums in Egypt? Let’s talk Kairo for example - their idea of “protecting and preserving historical artifacts” is two sticks and a string between them, to “prevent” people from getting close. You can literally CLIMB INTO a sarcophagus or touch a mummy and noone bats an eye. You can climb all over the pillars and ancient buildings, scratch the hieroglyphes while “looking” at them etc. The speaker is clearly a beautiful and bright girl, but needs to grow up and face reality. Egyptians aren’t capable or interested in preserving historical artefacts, so it’s better for more developed countries to have taken them, otherwise in 100 years there will be no more of them to see, and the pyramids would be turned to cheap hotels.
@tresojos
@tresojos 5 ай бұрын
its so painful to watch the state the museums are in over there.... Horrible
@satishmaurya3404
@satishmaurya3404 4 ай бұрын
are you justifying the thievery??
@tresojos
@tresojos 4 ай бұрын
@@satishmaurya3404 absolutely!
@astyaworld2858
@astyaworld2858 Ай бұрын
I'm wondering how British always find excusa for themselves without shame, full of yourself
@peterfabell154
@peterfabell154 4 ай бұрын
I wish Britain had taken the ancient statues in Iraq before ISIS destroyed them.
@eddyr1041
@eddyr1041 4 ай бұрын
Yeah gone forever.... Syrian too... Lost for humanity
@KiingOfKombat
@KiingOfKombat 5 ай бұрын
Seeing as how much stuff has been destroyed around the world we should be thankful they are really well looked after, cared for and protected in the UK. also the museums are free to visit for everyone.
@bereldovlerner5557
@bereldovlerner5557 5 ай бұрын
When did the current inhabitants of Egypt (excluding, perhaps, the Copts) begin identifying with the ancient Egyptian civilization?
@blackrainbow222
@blackrainbow222 4 ай бұрын
FYI the current Egyptians are the same like ancient Egyptians. DNA analysis and tons of other things prove this point.... People like you repeat such nonsense to justify The theft .. people like you can't steal identity by just spreading out lies.... Great civilizations may get weak sometimes but never die. It will get stronger again
@TravelswithTanya
@TravelswithTanya 5 ай бұрын
Question: Didn't the British and others take these artifacts from the people who took them from the people who took them from the people who lived there thousands of years ago,
@drstevej2527
@drstevej2527 5 ай бұрын
The Egyptians had no respect for their own historical artifacts. They were deteriorating in the desert but now they care.
@Cardiologyforever
@Cardiologyforever 5 ай бұрын
You speak on behalf of the Egyptians? Besides if your home is in a deteriorating condition ( for whatever reason, lets say you don't have enough money to look after it) does this allows me to take it?
@drstevej2527
@drstevej2527 5 ай бұрын
@@Cardiologyforever It’s not a home! Most of this was simply unclaimed ruins deteriorating in the desert before the British decided to preserve it. Now that it’s considered valuable the Egyptians want it back. These are the same Egyptians who rejected their own cultural heritage as paganism and who destroyed these artifacts for centuries. Lastly these are the same Egyptians who took much of their treasures during this period from OTHER cultures and countries. Are they planning on returning it to those cultures?
@Cardiologyforever
@Cardiologyforever 5 ай бұрын
@@drstevej2527 Regardless of whatever you say. Short answer it is not yours to take and justify it. Period
@drstevej2527
@drstevej2527 5 ай бұрын
@@Cardiologyforever Actually it’s logic reason and an understanding of history that dictates my position.
@RickRoy117
@RickRoy117 5 ай бұрын
How about returning Chinese and Indian and Irish native Artifacts then? They are priceless, and surely the UK being a Christian Civilised country has no need for the Artifacts of so-called uncivilised people, right? Thieves and robbers, you stole and robbed them fair and square, Pushed the common people into engineered famines, killing Millions and Millions, and have the audacity to spew nonsense after having the blood of our people on your hands?
@BhaaratKiAawaz
@BhaaratKiAawaz 5 ай бұрын
Ladies and gentleman I'm reading the script here 😂
@marcofreeman33
@marcofreeman33 5 ай бұрын
Don’t forget that mummies and a large number of cultural relics from that era were auctioned off by tomb robbers and traders on the streets, and the mummies were left exposed under the scorching sun. If the cultural relics were to be returned, would the Egyptian government return power to the indigenous Africans?
@cspacebrown
@cspacebrown 5 ай бұрын
Indigenous Africans?
@marcofreeman33
@marcofreeman33 5 ай бұрын
@@cspacebrown The earliest Semites were the ancient Egyptians
@marcofreeman33
@marcofreeman33 5 ай бұрын
Indigenous people of North Africa
@cspacebrown
@cspacebrown 5 ай бұрын
@@marcofreeman33 arabs, jews, and phonecians - yeah isn't this point you're making controversial when considering the phonecians and jews travelled west and north up to britain? which goes back to my previous point being that how is it stealing if britonic people are representatives of ancient egyptians? For example, your point may allude to those people having a right of citizenship i.e. power in those lands around the middle east which includes the greeks, as well as other european and northern settlers
@marcofreeman33
@marcofreeman33 5 ай бұрын
@@cspacebrown The point is not to make a fuss about false propositions
@jpa435
@jpa435 5 ай бұрын
The only reason these artifacts are still in existence today and not destroyed by all those 14th century third world throwbacks is because of the British and other European countries having the four site to take these precious artifacts out of an unstable regions of the world and bring them to more stable countries where they could be enjoyed for centuries to come.
@rararazzamatazz
@rararazzamatazz 5 ай бұрын
Lmao regions made unstable by their own empire. If the British didn't impoverish and exploit them in the first place, they wouldn't become third world shitholes. India was the richest nation in the world when the Brits came a visiting. That's why they were so desperate to come to India in the first place. By the time they left, India was a 3rd world country with the average life expectancy of an average brown Indian person at 31 years, while that of a white Brit being 64 years. So, that should tell you all you need to know about the Empire caring about its colonies not half of what it cared for their own lives and prosperity. This idea that the Brits are doing any service to humanity by first plundering, looting, raping and pillaging and then patting themselves on the back because the people they destituted are selling their artifacts for a meal, is a sad joke. They were never theirs to take. The British museum should be filled with only things that originated in Britain. Point blank period.
@Judah-y8c
@Judah-y8c 3 ай бұрын
Thank u return them now they are not urs
@Rkenton48
@Rkenton48 5 ай бұрын
We have our first deportee!
@VincenzoInfi
@VincenzoInfi 5 ай бұрын
I know, right on cue! 😂
@cyb-m
@cyb-m 5 ай бұрын
those artifacts are not british either. they belong in their lands of origin. to be seen by the descendants of those civilizations.
@משהדנינוב
@משהדנינוב 5 ай бұрын
What about the pot holes in Blackburn Lancashire!
@agDRAGONMAN001
@agDRAGONMAN001 5 ай бұрын
@@cyb-m We bought and traded them fair and square. And others we won via conquest.
@cyb-m
@cyb-m 5 ай бұрын
@@agDRAGONMAN001 none of them was bought. it was all stolen. you just admitted to be a country of theives.
@David-lx3sw
@David-lx3sw 5 ай бұрын
Then to be fair can we have our freedom of speech, culture, capital, and various towns back?
@hi.kingharry
@hi.kingharry 5 ай бұрын
give it back to Mo Salah
@danielwhyatt3278
@danielwhyatt3278 5 ай бұрын
This was a very sad speech to see here. Missing sooo much context. Let alone the fact that we don’t get to actually hear the argument for the opposition.
@nrb1989
@nrb1989 5 ай бұрын
Yeah you do. Just watch the 5 other videos.
@OmarZitoun123
@OmarZitoun123 4 ай бұрын
Well the issue is that back in the day Egyptian government allowed for explorers who came to Egypt to explore and excavate in search of the ancient Egypt artifacts to take back what they found but they had to go through an Egyptian committee from the ministry of tourism and antiques first so they can can decided whether they can take it or not so basically Egypt had the first pick and the
@emanmoustafa7452
@emanmoustafa7452 5 ай бұрын
Great presenter 👍👌👏 you did your homework and it turned out into this excellent speech, great work
@GuyWilson706
@GuyWilson706 11 күн бұрын
She forgot to mention or articulate the reason they were removed. Instead tried to say that the British are thieves. Let’s consider for a moment that they would not of been presented and preserved so beautifully if it hadn’t been for how unstable Egypt and nations surrounding it? Nothing but instability and war. What happened in Syria when priceless history was destroyed by lunatic extremists?? Many believe that it was for the betterment of the world to keep it safe in a stable nation.
@tresojos
@tresojos 5 ай бұрын
Leave the country slump! If the countries of origin cared even a tiny bit about their art back in the days, it would not be in the British Museum now. End of discussion. Goodbye.
@tresojos
@tresojos 4 ай бұрын
​@@Sleezy5711 I'm not wise because I don't share your opinion? 👏
@tresojos
@tresojos 4 ай бұрын
@@Sleezy5711 They didn't really care about it. Have you ever been to a museum in Egypt?
@explorerelka
@explorerelka 5 ай бұрын
I feel the same about Indian subcontinent artefacts in the British Museum too. But when looking at the way Museums are run here by ignorant bureaucrats who treat tit like any other posting, next to zero funding and add to that politicisation of of cultural heritage; I do have to admit that they have a better chance of being preserved for posterity in foreign Institutions.
@saidulchowdhury227
@saidulchowdhury227 5 ай бұрын
So every museum in the world should return every thing that they have bought from the colonial period?
@süd-ostkerl
@süd-ostkerl 4 ай бұрын
not all country is colonial tho
@percentbigfoot
@percentbigfoot 4 ай бұрын
Bought? Bought? 😅
@Abhi_say000
@Abhi_say000 4 ай бұрын
Bought...? for real....? like by wot means they bought 'Ramayana' and 'Mahabharata' scrolls, huh....? do u think that was buying?? that was straight up STEALING
@batbrick3949
@batbrick3949 4 ай бұрын
Bought is different from took
@usernotfound7481
@usernotfound7481 4 ай бұрын
Lmao, how many countries you think had a colonial past? Jeez, l4me 4ss argument
@histarchus
@histarchus 5 ай бұрын
The very fact that this lady is allowed to make this speech and is listened to with respect shows how advanced and tolerant British society is.
@SanjanaNAthreya
@SanjanaNAthreya 5 ай бұрын
What do you mean advanced? expressing an opinion should be a persons fundamental right and it is so in most of the countries(even developing countries). There is nothing advanced about it
@optus7113
@optus7113 5 ай бұрын
​@@SanjanaNAthreyaNo the freedom of speech is not the same everywhere just because it is written in some paper book does not mean the implementation and ground reality is touched. Let's take an example of India a third world country where freedom of speech is forbidden despite it's written in their constitution as a fundamental right yet the practice isn't widespread because of the fear from indian illiterate mob. Can anyone criticize india in their home does they places for debate regarding historical matters where it is clearly indian sub-continental empires were evil and proved? The answer is no the British allows every single individual to speak whatever they wish to and many takes the advantage of it spreading lies and disinformation proven from Shashi Tharoor's work which was fraud deep down
@martin96991
@martin96991 5 ай бұрын
​@@optus7113who made it 3rd world? UK became 1st world only because of INDIA and its resources, otherwise they'll be traveling on boats to African countries just like African countries are doing today. You stole $50 trillion of wealth from INDIA and it is a conservative figure never forget that.
@martin96991
@martin96991 5 ай бұрын
​@@optus7113can anyone criticize INDIA in their home? As far as I know INDIA never invaded any country by force and looted trillions of dollars of wealth and ki//ed millions and millions of people. (65 million in INDIA alone)
@martin96991
@martin96991 5 ай бұрын
​@@optus7113entire UK is build on INDIAN money. INDIA was the world's richest country throughout its history before British looted it ($50 trillion) its karma what Britain is facing today.
@Cardiologyforever
@Cardiologyforever 5 ай бұрын
She is eloquent and she has interesting and valid points, would be great to see the whole debate.
@solb101
@solb101 5 ай бұрын
If this is the best of the Oxford crop we are doomed. You wouldn’t have Egyptian antiquities if it wasn’t for the scholarship and industry of the British. Their current value consists of their establishment in the British Museum. Please don’t forget that Egypt had an empire too, yet perhaps they were too arrogant or ignorant to recognise the value of studying and preserving other cultures for the benefit of mankind.
@eddyr1041
@eddyr1041 4 ай бұрын
Egypt hv fallen so fatrrrrrr
@oddmanout4256
@oddmanout4256 27 күн бұрын
They are too dumb to look that far, REAL historians are greatful thr British academics and govt were so forward thinking in their efforts to document the lands of the peoples they conquered. Certainly a step up from the Mongols who pillaged and wrecked everything rather they over 300 years amassed things people didnt know should be recognized as such for gods sake one could find Egyptian antiquities being sold in bazaars pre 1800s
@Yaaron_Zongo
@Yaaron_Zongo 24 күн бұрын
What an arrogant comment. When did the British start embarking or scholarly journeys? Where were the British when Egyptians were creating what today is still a marvel? Your comment suggests the scholarship and industry of the British are the reason we have Egyptian antiquities. What nonsense. S9 if I steal your car and display it in a showroom, that makes it mine? The British stole things that aren't theirs, killed people and took their antiquities. No former British colony has benefitted from Britain whatsoever. You contributed nothing to your colonies, won't even allow them to easily enter the UK even though you are still looting.
@solb101
@solb101 24 күн бұрын
Says the arrogant, ignorant Zongo. Egyptians stole things that aren’t theirs, killed people and took their antiquities. No former Egyptian colony has benefited from Egypt whatsoever. You contributed nothing to your colonies. The droughts, plagues and foreign invaders that put an end to your Pharoah’s, was a consequence of your corruption. You should be thankful that the British enabled you to rediscover and preserve them from the hand of Egyptian vandals and looters.
@andreeaalexandru7811
@andreeaalexandru7811 5 ай бұрын
This is so disgusting. Lets change the history.
@roniberahaquartet477
@roniberahaquartet477 5 ай бұрын
Something missing ,she is talking about the civilisation of ancient Egypt that was extinct .Apropriation of culture is on also in Arabic Egypt of today .
@nessuno3048
@nessuno3048 5 ай бұрын
To Britons: defend your country and your culture, please. In Italy, we lost a lot of artworks and we never say that we are in crisis due to foreign invasions. In historical times, crime are committed, including lootings. The law applies in a limited way and cannot go back in time for centuries. Every country, including European ones, was a victim of another country. It is crazy the idea to treat past historical events as today crimes.
@nrb1989
@nrb1989 5 ай бұрын
Agreed THEYRE OWN CULTURE. Not other people's.
@nessuno3048
@nessuno3048 5 ай бұрын
@@nrb1989 Objects which were included in museum collections in historical times are part of the country's culture. According to your rule, Italians should take back a massive quantity of artworks, but I suspect that your rule is applied only to what you consider minority. It is the classical double standard of the Left. A Prehistoric plate from my region is now at a Russian museum, for example. This is how things work. Even if Italy is a Western country, so it cannot be oppressed, in your/their biased view. It is cultural marxist policy, which finds the today minority to fight for.
@_Rishabh_honeybadger
@_Rishabh_honeybadger 5 ай бұрын
@@nessuno3048 I see your point but a cultural artefact is something that the common man in that country relates to but I don't think British people have any belongingness or knowledge of that artefact for ex sculpture of many gods and goddesses from India....and I am not talking just of names , there are so many more like these from different countries .
@nessuno3048
@nessuno3048 5 ай бұрын
@@_Rishabh_honeybadger The common man does not even know his own culture.
@AdityaRaj-ru9br
@AdityaRaj-ru9br 5 ай бұрын
So you are saying all countries who want their items back should attack Britain in order to get that back ??
@משהדנינוב
@משהדנינוב 5 ай бұрын
They taught you a lot of rubbish!
@kaartheikgeiyan6004
@kaartheikgeiyan6004 5 ай бұрын
Reminiscent of my sister's generation. And no, I'm not from India. I'm from another Commonwealth nation not as well-represented in the museum; Malaysia.
@kai89tracid
@kai89tracid 5 ай бұрын
Artefacts digged by British archelogist.
@BookOwl60
@BookOwl60 5 ай бұрын
lol you are wrong . These are stolen .
@kai89tracid
@kai89tracid 4 ай бұрын
​@@BookOwl60 they belong to person who digged them out.
@Prairie-Tales
@Prairie-Tales 4 ай бұрын
Her name is Karma. How fitting and fabulous.
@MultitalentedAnoop
@MultitalentedAnoop 5 ай бұрын
Script reading speech basically used in non English speaking countries... 😂😂
@pineiden
@pineiden 4 ай бұрын
Excelent, great woman!
@voalex5165
@voalex5165 5 ай бұрын
Delusional to think that people should give back the spoils of war
@Stoddardian
@Stoddardian 5 ай бұрын
Go back then.
@NawalAkbar-o7u
@NawalAkbar-o7u 5 ай бұрын
Beautiful ❤ well done Karma
@martincotterill823
@martincotterill823 4 ай бұрын
Well said, I couldn't agree more!
@AramNazaryan-cw7uj
@AramNazaryan-cw7uj 5 ай бұрын
The artefacts are in British museum because British people value more those things. And muslims do not look how they destroyed ancient city of Palmirya in Syria they don’t value historical heritage that’s why it’s better for to present those Exponates in British museum that is much more safe for heritage
@ahmedzahir2865
@ahmedzahir2865 5 ай бұрын
Are you saying Muslims across the globe destroyed or wanted the destruction of that city? What about other ancient cities across the Islamic world and the museums? What about all that was destroyed during world war 1 & 2? Or the dissolution of the monasteries? Would you say that Europeans wanted that? So much shit happens during war and every nation has a sizable population of philistines that don't care about heritage and would gladly destroy whatever they can but also out of ignorance or even out of necessity in a time of crisis.
@AramNazaryan-cw7uj
@AramNazaryan-cw7uj 5 ай бұрын
@@ahmedzahir2865 There might me some small number of muslims that didn’t want the city to be destroyed. But the rest either didn’t care or they were supporting the destruction.
@AramNazaryan-cw7uj
@AramNazaryan-cw7uj 5 ай бұрын
@@ahmedzahir2865 There are a lot of videos how muslims are destroying the ancient sculptures.
@AramNazaryan-cw7uj
@AramNazaryan-cw7uj 5 ай бұрын
@@ahmedzahir2865 Just search the destruction of artefacts in Mosul you will realise why it is better for artefacts to be in British and civilised museums
@ahmedelgamal5443
@ahmedelgamal5443 5 ай бұрын
She said it all Thank you for spreading awareness of what was stolen from egypt
@Sleepyirishcoffee
@Sleepyirishcoffee 5 ай бұрын
Wasn't the Rosetta stone used as a base for a fort?
@radwakareem8047
@radwakareem8047 5 ай бұрын
I'm really surprised how brave you are to say this words and defend your historical heritage, you did an amazing job little lady 👏
@jjstarrprod
@jjstarrprod 4 ай бұрын
So that's a bit of a tricky situation. While in principle, I completely agree with the speaker, the reality is often more complicated than that. Case in point, I'm from Taiwan, which has a complcated history as well, of being both the exile island of the losing government of the Chinese civil war, the KuoMing Tan (or KMT), which, in their defeat, "stole" a massive collection of historic ancient Chinese artifacts and treasures to bring them all to Taiwan. Maoist communists justly called them thieves... Until the cultural revolution happened 2 decades later, destroying vast swathes of ancient national treasures, sculptures and books, erasing 3000 years of Chinese history... All of a sudden, the KMT was viewed as the actual savior and legator of Chinese culture. So you never know with these things, how the situation can go in the future.
@juan-carlosgonzalez3738
@juan-carlosgonzalez3738 5 ай бұрын
What about the natural history type specimens? Majority of the species described from Asia have holotypes deposited in the natural history museum, which most Asians are unable to access.
@mahasalama7793
@mahasalama7793 5 ай бұрын
A wonderful presentation , I am proud of you, my heart Karma ❤️
@buddhikaruwan5708
@buddhikaruwan5708 4 ай бұрын
There's a simple solution for this problem.. British Museum will return the artifacts, as long as the receiving countries are:- Politically Stable No Islam (as state religion) The State (Government) & the religious bodies should be separate Otherwise these artifacts should better remain in the British Museum.. The National Museum of Iraq was totally destroyed (The artifacts) by Muslims..
@abmong
@abmong 5 ай бұрын
As someone who was an international student in England. I always found it odd that the "British" Museum has more stuff in it that's not British than things that are. Of cause we know why that is, it's basically the loot house from Empire days. I would say the institution itself would benefit more from having historical British culture on display, it would attract tourists who visit the UK who want to learn more about British culture. Native Britains would also benefit from having a place to go learn about their own culture instead of feeling increasingly that Britain has no culture or that it's being replaced, eroded. Sure, have a wing that displays foreign cultures from around the world, better yet have a different Museum(s) dedicated to that. The items put on display should be on loan from those countries as part of an exchange program. Not just the UK, but France and other historic invading colonizers are guilty of it too.
@Richard.HistoryLit
@Richard.HistoryLit 4 ай бұрын
Was it not Democritus who said, much learning does not teach understanding. I mean of political religion, which is what this is all about.
@thenoobyblock1208
@thenoobyblock1208 3 ай бұрын
@@Richard.HistoryLit Was this not Heraclitus?
@Richard.HistoryLit
@Richard.HistoryLit 3 ай бұрын
@@thenoobyblock1208 The very same, 535-c.475BC... You are at least one blessed person that knows as much! I invite an appraisal of my humble channel.
@wailunkwok5483
@wailunkwok5483 5 ай бұрын
Express my gratitude to British Museum, it preserves a large number of cultural artifacts from China, which could have be destroyed in the Cultural Revolution.
@jaydog1500
@jaydog1500 4 ай бұрын
What is she saying “no thank you” to?
@c4call
@c4call 5 ай бұрын
She identifies herself as "egyptian-british". If she can identify as british, why cant anyone identify the objects in the museums as british as well?
@Bavarian-ko9il
@Bavarian-ko9il 5 ай бұрын
Bullshit…all looted goods ..what a nonsense…you guys destroyed cultures, nations and continents..what rights do you have to represent other cultures..that the same cultures you don’t respect and deliberately destroyed them b.c of your greed
@alexandraepiphaniou3390
@alexandraepiphaniou3390 4 ай бұрын
This makes absolutely no sense
@bwr1948
@bwr1948 4 ай бұрын
Are you insane. What are you talking about.
@Richard.HistoryLit
@Richard.HistoryLit 4 ай бұрын
Exactly. And these two wombats - bwr and alexandraepiphiou - and their cogent arguments are top, top people mmm?!
@timwannell6477
@timwannell6477 5 ай бұрын
I mean God bless her 🙏
@ameekask8318
@ameekask8318 5 ай бұрын
Britain has kept in peace and sanctity what would have been hawked ago, long before for petty kingdoms, by their parent countries
@eddyr1041
@eddyr1041 4 ай бұрын
That kinda best case... Eg. Gold silver piece... with intricated artnincriptio thousand of years.... Probably melted by stupid thieves just for the gold while it even can worth gazillion time in black art market... It is unimaginable disaster😅😅😅😅... and stupid....
@Huankonyak
@Huankonyak 4 ай бұрын
She mean wota..
@roc7880
@roc7880 4 ай бұрын
British Museums should return the people who do not appreciate the content of the museums. If they do not like it, they should go to where they like it.
@SirPeteWindsor
@SirPeteWindsor 5 ай бұрын
Just started the video, and after the 1st affirmation, I could say that the country 'should' return people who weren't born in the country -- using the same ludicrous way of 'not thinking.'
@swiftlyaddictedtottpd
@swiftlyaddictedtottpd 5 ай бұрын
most people only leave their counties because of poverty and lack of the countryside money, but if former colonial rulers paid back reparations it would greatly help the country and it’s people so they wouldnt even need to come to these counties because their own would be sufficient
@dexieonrun3012
@dexieonrun3012 5 ай бұрын
Along with the reparations?
@Monyme69
@Monyme69 5 ай бұрын
Very well said👏🏼👏🏼
@davidpowell3709
@davidpowell3709 4 ай бұрын
How many of these artifacts would have been destroyed, forgotten, or never discovered if not for the British?
@MrMattias87
@MrMattias87 5 ай бұрын
I call bollocks to her argument, nothing more but woke overcorrection of history.
@AndrewNeale-go9eq
@AndrewNeale-go9eq 5 ай бұрын
She's talking s**t
@youssef-lz8fj
@youssef-lz8fj 5 ай бұрын
An eloquent person, but she says that she grew up in both countries but the entire speech shows favouritism. She put no reasoning about the whyes, but just threw slurs and played victimhood. British museums gave importance and meaning to these artifacts, which the natives never gave a damn about. British museums invested in means to preserve these artifacts, and now that the natives started growing envious and disgruntled, they should pay the British museums the artifacts safekeeping with interest at least, if they want them back, to be fair and to prove that they value the artifacts. She talks about the british museums being patronising, and disregards the natives clear attitude in criminalising the british museums and holding "holier than thou" stance. I say, a quick search would show what the remaining artifacts in their native land are going through from looting and negligence.
@sammygoodnight
@sammygoodnight 5 ай бұрын
Exactly. The only reason any of the pieces in Western museums are considered important artifacts at all is because the collective West considered them so. Leave the British museum alone (and the Louvre and Pergamon museum in Berlin, etc.)
@varunmirasdar
@varunmirasdar 5 ай бұрын
So who told you the natives never gave any damn about? Attack the natives, destroy their culture, and then save their artifacts a few years later claiming to save them? Classic juice strategy
@Architectonica
@Architectonica 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, she is eloquent as long as she's got that script before her. Anyway, she should be thankful to the British Museum and to Britain as her adopted homeland that she and other people even had a chance to look at those treasures from the place of her origine. However, if Europeans start talking today about dismantling their history, setting right the wrongs of the Imperial past, the gates to hell would flip wide open, and one of the next logical steps would be to try and re-draw national borders - maybe starting from the age of the Roman Empire.
@danielwhyatt3278
@danielwhyatt3278 5 ай бұрын
I couldn’t agree with you more. That was absolutely perfectly put. There is a clear case of victimhood and holier than thou attitude going on from her and those that are irrationally desperate to get these pieces back. They’re staying here, as they should. Time moves on, as it always does.
@RickRoy117
@RickRoy117 5 ай бұрын
How about returning Chinese and Indian and Irish native Artifacts then? They are priceless, and surely the UK being a Christian Civilised country has no need for the Artifacts of so-called uncivilised people, right? Thieves and robbers, you stole and robbed them fair and square, Pushed the common people into engineered famines, killing Millions and Millions, and have the audacity to spew nonsense after having the blood of our people on your hands?
@impuredeath2
@impuredeath2 5 ай бұрын
I just came here to see this pretty, smart girl talking... :)
@Iazzaboyce
@Iazzaboyce 4 ай бұрын
She is British and her ancestors were in Egypt, so it seems appropriate the British Museum has Egyptian exhibits.
@khaledgad604
@khaledgad604 5 ай бұрын
Amazing! Super like ❤
@seerOfNatur
@seerOfNatur 4 ай бұрын
On the other hand, many items, if not kept safe in BM, would have been lost or sold around the world.
@strawmanfallacy8666
@strawmanfallacy8666 4 ай бұрын
"respresent", Oxford needs better title typers.
@crazytrain639
@crazytrain639 5 ай бұрын
to quote the Texas flag..."Come and take it"
@Richard.HistoryLit
@Richard.HistoryLit 4 ай бұрын
The common theme is that the British Empire was somehow a fundamentally wrong thing, no matter all the extensive good it achieved, and the list of that will take some time to cover. All adds up to nothing to an Oxford University student, dare i say it, who would appear to make 2 + 2 = 5
@robinchaulagain206
@robinchaulagain206 4 ай бұрын
So far so good speech
@RasEthiopia.
@RasEthiopia. 5 ай бұрын
THE BRITISH MUSEUM IS A REMINDER OF COLONISATION BUT IT IS ALSO THE HISTORY OF GLOBALISATION.
@anishray7401
@anishray7401 5 ай бұрын
Who is this gorgeous woman❤🤩. Since she is an Oxford student she is probably woke af but she is still so pretty😍
@AlessandroAI85
@AlessandroAI85 5 ай бұрын
She's so beautiful she's right!
@zarbins
@zarbins 5 ай бұрын
Don't be so easily swayed by beauty. She's absolutely wrong.
@KimTaehyung-u9p
@KimTaehyung-u9p 5 ай бұрын
she needs too be deported!
@jaspreetmodi
@jaspreetmodi 5 ай бұрын
Change the title to mention "For Egyptians" only. She is here for her own country. Rest all are referred as colonies or countries. Britain stands on the loot from India which wasnt even mentioned once until 7th min starting. Atleast a few countries by name must have been mentioned.
@rasithak.kk.k710
@rasithak.kk.k710 15 күн бұрын
India is poor until britsh came 😂
@videosdebiles2165
@videosdebiles2165 5 ай бұрын
She got everything from England and hate it
@mennas1949
@mennas1949 5 ай бұрын
Brave future leader sharing the truth with the world Well said
@cspacebrown
@cspacebrown 5 ай бұрын
Fair enough with artifact that do not represent the antiquity of Britons before they were the original people of the Brittonic island, but arguably for Egyptian: supposedly the latest archaeological findings suggest that antient British people are natives representative of Egypt, and so how can artifact be stolen when some British may have historical ties to the land that dates further back than maybe it's current inhabitants who it may not be within their interest to protect?
@nathansellars3757
@nathansellars3757 5 ай бұрын
Shes not british, she has no say
@cyb-m
@cyb-m 5 ай бұрын
those artifacts are not british either. they belong in their lands of origin. to be seen by the descendants of those civilizations.
@epic6434
@epic6434 5 ай бұрын
​@@cyb-m You're probably a civilian under parliament or a turncoat no offense but that's like me telling the military branches to I'm king they'll probably start calling me Bob Hope throw yourself down from these walls and your father will send his angels to catch you before you hit the rocks? Humpty Dumpty there's a classic. That was a good pitch you just ask those countries with stolen artifacts for if their writing a check or have an account with a world bank 😂 it's like telling the devil I want my soul back and he shows you how you were living before you joined the church 😂 it's not funny but it's the world earth and heaven sometimes they say universe your in a church branch or something.
@jonstfrancis
@jonstfrancis 5 ай бұрын
Well Britain loves having their say on every other country's affairs.
@arkaroy9827
@arkaroy9827 5 ай бұрын
You are not owners of the looted wealth you have no right
@userfu2uv6tz3f
@userfu2uv6tz3f 5 ай бұрын
neither are the artifacts
@hebashafei5460
@hebashafei5460 5 ай бұрын
Great job👏👏👏
@arranadler-williams5489
@arranadler-williams5489 5 ай бұрын
Brilliant speech from a brilliant future leader of this country.
@user-dostiBaniRaheBus
@user-dostiBaniRaheBus 4 ай бұрын
As an Indian, i can say without Britain India would have remain divided into smaller kingdom, we would have continued all sorts of social evils and discrimination perpetuated in the name of religion(Hindu, Muslim, Sikh, Buddhism, Jainism, Christianity), Caste(Upper and Lower Caste). It was Brits who forcibly modernise us, It was British who brought and made us known the importance of modern secular education otherwise we would have stuck in our religious book which promotes discrimination based on religious, caste and sex based identity. Manusmriti doesnt allow women, even of upper caste, to study and learn. It was Lord Macaulay who opened the door of school to people of every caste,religion and women.British taught us equality irrespective of the diversity. British infused in us the idea of a nation state and last but not least they gave a formidable military. I think all the wealth they took from us was a kind of fee which we paid to learn all this thing
@nowthenzen
@nowthenzen 5 ай бұрын
The Rosetta probably belonged to some ancient Greek merchant. History and nations are not the same thing.
@danielwhyatt3278
@danielwhyatt3278 5 ай бұрын
Exactly
@Dannil1
@Dannil1 4 ай бұрын
Well done, the appropriations of goods, culture and the history of other countries is definitely an issue that needs more clarity. Having artifacts in a museum that may have gotten there illegally really isn't a small issue. There does need to be more examination and a variety of answers from a few more viewpoints. Maybe some new correspondence, explanations from the museums in general at hand and even some real data, surveys from citizens, museum curators and possibly academia. I like it, you definitely have got it, there is a real answer that can be had, dare I say satisfy all involved too, this sounds exactly like a big data issue.
@whoislinz
@whoislinz 5 ай бұрын
wait what did she say no thank you to?
@somayaelgawhary9400
@somayaelgawhary9400 5 ай бұрын
God bless you Karma
@ismailembaby6895
@ismailembaby6895 5 ай бұрын
Well articulated 👍🏼
@narimanabbas4521
@narimanabbas4521 5 ай бұрын
Brilliant speech from amazing Egyptian lady 🤩 extremely proud of you 👏👏👏
@shahmohammadmahdihasan324
@shahmohammadmahdihasan324 4 ай бұрын
Xoss!
@g.cchaudhary22
@g.cchaudhary22 5 ай бұрын
British royal navy was basically the biggest pirate crew..no wonder they looted so much wealth 😂
@charananekibalijaun8837
@charananekibalijaun8837 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, right.... Indian WhatsApp university?
@harry..flashman
@harry..flashman 5 ай бұрын
It abolished slavery, also British Empire abolished indians burning their widows.
@g.cchaudhary22
@g.cchaudhary22 5 ай бұрын
@@harry..flashman British empire abolished slavery?? 🤣🤣Are you learning your history from islamic Madarssa? No wonder Britain has become a muslim country
@yashwanthcalidas6031
@yashwanthcalidas6031 5 ай бұрын
​@@harry..flashman do you even know why that was even practiced in the first place? It was because of the cruel rule of the Mughals and sultanate before that. They'd pillage villages and kill the soldiers whose widows would often become slaves to those Mughal rulers and live in torment.
@sajolbhadra
@sajolbhadra 4 ай бұрын
@@harry..flashman do you know the history of queen padmavati? she ended up her life rather slave to muslim. I think your university dont taught you that
@vivekkumarsinghdixit5521
@vivekkumarsinghdixit5521 4 ай бұрын
Go three years to agriculture, than start short besenes for people, to start running life to puple,
@dinaoncy1999
@dinaoncy1999 5 ай бұрын
Outstanding ❤
@shivank_happy
@shivank_happy 4 ай бұрын
She made me fall in love with her within 5 min. As a indian, i can understand and relate her thoughts and opinion about the colonial history. Kohinoor Diamond
@danielyates9055
@danielyates9055 5 ай бұрын
Speaking as an American with anglo father. The fact that she is a student at Oxford, allowed to give this speech, is exactly why I think she is wrong. London is a city that brought the whole world together, and it's museum respectfully tells the story of humanity. The only thing more diverse than the collection is the visitors. Isn't it a good thing for us all to be able to see our common story? Most nations would only showcase their own artifacts, make themselves central in the story of humanity. Perhaps a long with the artifacts, she would like to return to Egypt?
@travelizepulse
@travelizepulse 5 ай бұрын
London underground was operational in January of 1863 . UK's affluence and progressiveness was set in tracks. I recently learnt about how banks were the foremost institutions of equality in society and so a force of progress like none other. I'm sure the banking and free market system that was perfected over time had helped in reaching milestones and many people who were nurtured by Britain to enable this. But the naming an item loot may not go along with everything that was achieved. At least a formal letter from each state saying this is left to help foster a world of unity and to bring cultures together would be a way forward, just my imagination, although it may be imperfect it is just something that decency begs from my moral compass to say at this point in time. Although I hope this does not overshadow institutions like National Trust which was founded by a lady at a time when it would have been impossible in many countries for women to do so, even to this day in some countries unfortunately.
@Alzeitoun52
@Alzeitoun52 5 ай бұрын
I am deeply impressed by your elegant speech. You and all Egyptians have all the rights to get their stolen history back. Keep up your great work and we will soon have our rights and leave all the shame to the English occupation.
@missmitra.a96
@missmitra.a96 5 ай бұрын
Don't you think that if these old items are in the British Museum, they will be safer and better present your culture to the world and it will benefit you?I even think you should be proud of this opportunity!
@27min82
@27min82 4 ай бұрын
People living in England who comes from different backgrounds have the audacity to say another country as their own and not England as their own. Since this lady is earning in England staying in England enjoying in England has no rights to ask England to return all the artefacts. In fact people from all over the world travel England and have the accessibility to see all these monuments sculptures antiques. Show this antiques should remain in England for the world to view
@endiswamyedhi4258
@endiswamyedhi4258 5 ай бұрын
British museums are the collection of historic monuments of other countries. But British 🇬🇧 claims them as their “SON” but the seed and Hardwork paid by someone else 😂😂😂 #British #Britishmuseums #kierstarmer 😂😂😂
@NaveenSharma.7520
@NaveenSharma.7520 2 ай бұрын
Black side with fact 👏🏻👏🏻..
@coenvanderlinden7375
@coenvanderlinden7375 4 ай бұрын
Yes, let us give all these priceless historical and religious artefacts back to countries where islamofascists rule and destroy their and humanities artefacts for fun / their religious misbelieves, When an artefact is destroyed it NEVER comes back. The more blabla is done. This is the main reason why these artefacts exist and kept in a very good state for hopefully centuries to come.
@eddyr1041
@eddyr1041 4 ай бұрын
Yeahbsad what happened in Iraq and syria on isis time😢
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