Ozempic Expert: 'Next Opioid Crisis?'

Krystal and Saagar are joined by Johann Hari to discuss the benefits and costs of Ozempic.
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[@ferrerrealtygroup36]

I don’t understand why the insurance would cover a $1,000/month weight loss drug that’s harmful and not cover my $35/month gym membership.

[@TheUnexpected111]

A gym membership would help to lower your premium. Idk if that's what is going on, but it could be some kind of scummy business practice like that.

[@sagnorm1863]

@@TheUnexpected111 What are you smoking? Lower your premium so that they can lose money? Why would they do that? Any insurance company that does offer those deals are just scamming you. They overcharge you on purpose and give you a "discount" if you follow their health guidelines. That way they make even more profits.

[@bryancrawley1062]

Because it would help you prevent being sick. They want us to be sick and hooked on drugs

[@jeffreysummers6843]

People will not go to the gym. Best to workout at home.

[@TheUnexpected111]

@@sagnorm1863 that is also a way they could do it, yeah.

[@robertdouglas1217]

Drug companies are not here for our wellbeing. Neither is the industrial food complex.

[@bustcard]

True. But drug companies make more money when the drug works.

[@jpnewman1688]

So you got problem with capitalism?? 💵💵😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@SS-xm7di]

you are correct but people are stupid.

[@jpnewman1688]

@@SS-xm7di not everyone.. But at least 68% of them are.. 💯💯😂😂😂

[@dylankorthas4797]

99% of Americans would sell their sole for a 100k man. That’s the problem with this country

[@usun_politics1033]

Every miracle drug in America ends the same, in 10 years there are ads "contact us, you are entitled to compensation"

[@Obernox]

I remember when those ads came out for penicilin, insulin, advil, thorazine, and birth control pills. Every miracle drug is a scam if you know the right people who know the truth 💯

[@Wi_Gong_Dye]

$5 in compensation after the 30 million person split and the 30% lawyer fees lol.

[@irresponsibleparent3]

Not this one, your body makes it naturally so it would be hard to sue on this drug.

[@Syzygy_Bliss]

@@irresponsibleparent3not quite. It’s made to look similar to glp-1 (the natural hormone) while being different enough to be patentable and to maybe make it easier to produce, store, and administer. So lawsuit’s deffo possible.

[@SurmaSampo]

FYI, not actually an American Drug. It is Danish.

[@brianritter5612]

Everybody on that beach in the 1970s was also chain smoking cigarettes.

[@termsofusepolice]

Good point. I was never a smoker. But was alive in that era. It has and continues to stun me when I see the instant weight gain in friends and family who finally quit smoking.

[@Dbb27]

Some were smoking. Not all of them.

[@Iluvchknz]

The corruption of our food is so damning. I was born in 1976. I was raised by someone wholly embraced processed food. That’s what we ate growing up. My mother did not have a weight issue. Her kids all do. I’m now the mother of three young men. I mostly cooked from scratch. My kids took their lunch to school. Fruit and vegetables were readily available in our house. They grew up helping me grow a large garden and picking up our beef and pork from the local processor. Not that no processed food came in to our house but not like it was in the house I grew up in. In fact when desserts are in my house they are also homemade. None of my kids have a weight problem. It’s so nice to see my boys come home and in the spring the first thing they do is go right to the strawberry patch that I’ve been growing since they were little. They also all come a get their spring asparagus. I know we don’t all have the space to grow large gardens but you don’t need as much as you think. My strawberry patch is a 5x5 pyramid tower and a 3x4 raised bed. I get tons of strawberries. We eat them fresh and I freeze them for later.

[@TCt83067695]

Random question ma'am. Are your sons still teenagers or are they over 20 yet? I wonder if things might be different if they moved out and get influenced by the fast life of bachelors that forces some to just get takeouts all the time. Speaking from experience of my 20s 😭

[@AnhtoanNguyen128]

It's antastic that you're able to do that. I grew up in a house that had processed food all day long. None of my 4 siblings are over weight and we were never controlled on what to eat. Most days id coming one from school and microwave frozen food, usually about 20 bagel bites or 60 pizza rolls for myself. It's a lot, I know as my friends never believed me when I told them, until they saw it. My brother and sister had the same appetite as well I ate way more then most of my overweight friends did for meals as well. My story like yours is anecdotal.

[@jurban7998]

I used to think the phrase "tune in, turn on, turn out" was silly. Looks less silly every day. The "authorities" lose credibility every time they open their mouths.

[@ADDekoning100]

This is SPOT ON. 👏 Thank you for your input.

[@alexb9597]

@@TCt83067695I’m in my early twenties and live with my girlfriend. We eat only Whole Foods as a priority for our health. I’m not sure if it’s as hard as we think. Just reprioritizing what’s important for me helped me find the time to cook healthy meals and allocate

[@stevehesh4993]

The New Hippocratic Oath is: "A Patient Cured Is A Customer Lost"!

[@jpnewman1688]

I solemnly swear that I will keep increasing profit at any cost.. 💵💵💯💯😂😂😂

[@factotums]

@@jpnewman1688 Stop with the emojis, Newman.

[@righteousisthelord180]

Man doctors are not the enemy. Most aren’t in for all this stuff man. They want us to just eat better and exercise. They are up against drug companies and insurance companies and a few greedy types. Being a primary care doctor is one of the lowest paying areas of medicine. It’s backwards if you ask me.

[@jonathan7249]

@@factotums are you done crying yet?? I bet you VOTED a lot.. 😄😄😄

[@factotums]

@@jonathan7249 Hello, Newman.

[@dashphonemail]

How anyone could delude themselves into thinking a drug that paralyzes their intestines won't have long term negative side effects is beyond my understanding

[@Widemouth1832]

There is always a trade off when it comes to anything. I have heard from friends that they have noticed additional muscle loss in addition to weight loss.

[@GetNLine]

​@@Widemouth1832If you lose weight without weight training you will lose muscle

[@ryderray2720]

@@Widemouth1832 if you are in a calorie deficit and not lifting you will lose muscle.

[@moazim1993]

There are side effects but one key difference between conventional medicinal compounds and peptides like semiglutides are that it signals for your body to endogenously produce. Which means that your body doesn’t stop producing on its own due to an increased exogenous surplus

[@nessunodorme3888]

Why do you think these drugs "paralyze the intestines"?

[@chorean]

Not all weight lost is fat. Lot of people have seen bone density and muscle loss from the medication.

[@paulharsh78]

Which will have significant consequences especially in older people taking these drugs.

[@RHLW]

Yeah, and? If you lose weight by simply decreasing the amount you eat the same happens unless you pair that diet with exercise.

[@chorean]

@@RHLW agreed, which is why diet and exercise are both important, and people thinking they can get fit with just a once a week injection are in for a rude awakening when they end up skinnyfat and not like the influencers they see online

[@RHLW]

@@chorean They wont really be skinny fat, because fat will be preferentially lost, but those people would be in the exact same situation anyway had they never been overweight to being with. These drugs arent doing this to them, they're just making them what they would otherwise have been.

[@chorean]

@@RHLW i see what you're saying but assuming that they never would have been overweight to begin with without any exercise in their lives is a bit hard to imagine

[@1timothydillon]

The hilarity is how quickly Ozempic killed the body positivity movement. Once everyone could stay lazy while losing weight, suddenly the hypocrites want to be skinny.

[@mirbear72]

If anything it lent credence to the body positive movement. The fact women are getting pregnant by taking ozempic tells you something hormonal is dysfunctional.

[@ezragonzalez8936]

leave people alone you bully!

[@Iluvchknz]

This makes you sound like such a knuckle dragger!!! I’m over weight and I am not f’ing lazy. My biggest hobby of gardening is physically demanding. I’m not talking a small flower garden. I grow 2/3 of what my family of 6 will eat this coming year in fresh vegetables and the products those make. In my spare time I maintain chickens, have a small apiary and will be in full scale food preservation later this summer and fall. I do this all outside my full time job. So f you. Maybe work on how you think about weight before making such statements.

[@polycarp9897]

@@ezragonzalez8936 Pointing out facts isn't bullying.

[@piccalillipit9211]

Body Positivity was a creation of the processed food industry - it is NOT positive in any way to be obese. They spent billion convincing you that it was WRONG to tell someone this.

[@countchoculitis1528]

I live in Canada. When I watch TV from the US the commercials are mostly for two things: fast food, and the pharmaceuticals to "treat" the problems caused by said fast food. It's mind boggling.

[@Dbb27]

It’s mind boggling that we consistently push the idea that taking a pill will fix any and all ills then wonder why we have such high addiction rates in our country. What message are we sending to our children?

[@couldbecooked6662]

I've met a teenage girl who was anorexic who was on Ozempic. She was getting it illegally from a hair stylist. It is already happening and going to get worse and perpetuate anorexia.

[@joeking433]

BS.

[@jennifer.martin.48]

I’m overweight, considered obese by the BMI scale. Having a hard time losing the baby weight after my 2 kids and honestly after 35, for most women, it’s really hard to lose weight. My doctor offered me Ozempic about a year and half ago, and that really woke something up in me to get control of my health. I politely declined and finally started prioritizing my health and not using my kids and being a working mom as an excuse. Since this year, I workout 4-5x/week and been mindful of what I eat and what ingredients I use. I’ve lost 10 pounds so far and my clothes pre-pregnancy fit much better even though I’m not at my goal weight yet. If you can do it, don’t rely on medications like this unless you really need it, you don’t want to become a lifelong patient and don’t know how you’ll react to it.

[@EB-gt1pq]

👏 congratulations!

[@gfys756]

Good work! You took personal accountability, put in the hard work, and are now seeing the rewards. Keep it up! 👍🏾

[@davidgartrell90]

Keep at it! You CAN do it!

[@muscleNPmama]

This!!!!❤❤❤❤

[@azmisunshine]

Good for you!

[@user-kv7ze2ty4e]

Then the American government allowed HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP TO EVERYTHING WE EAT. People drink sods that have the equivalent of 20-30 tsps of SUGAR IN EVERY CAN, then we added super size drinks. FRENCH FRIES SOAK IN SUGAR BREAD, Candy Carb loaded snacks , cereal , all loaded with SUGAR. IF YOU SAW THE DISNEY MOVIE WALL-E that could be our future.

[@kevinyaucheekin1319]

Just had a super size "Sugar free Coke", Fillet O Fish & std size French fries from Mcdonald. The Fries were delight. It cost me Singapore $6.40 or USD $5 approx. 😊

[@willnew4745]

Lmao, the government is always to blame, not the companies profiting off of it

[@SeekerOfKnowledge87]

​@@willnew4745it's a good obfuscation

[@verses-ty7od]

​@@willnew4745The government and the corporations work hand in hand.

[@TheMr02drop]

@@willnew4745 The reason for you expect companies to be sinister in order to increase their bottom lines. Greed culture does not care about people. However, we elect government officials to protect us from these monsters. But instead of doing that they take kickbacks from the monsters and ignore their duty to protect us for their own benefit. That is why the government gets blamed. They have the power to say "No, you can't make this shit and sell it to people because it is going to hurt society in the long run". Ultimately though the government isn't solely to blame. The companies are, the government is, and most importantly the individual is. You choose what food to put in your body. As someone who is obese I can tell you I mostly did this to myself with a lot of help from the companies producing the food and the government that just doesn't seem to get enough shit about us.

[@winderwonder]

My vet said the truest thing to me the other day: There are no safe medications.

[@jonathan7249]

Were you born yesterday or been living under a rock?? 😂😂😂

[@whlewis9164]

That’s a real stupid oversimplification of medication.

[@jonathan7249]

@@whlewis9164 don't you know MONEY is the biggest RELIGION and there's no greater God than the almighty Federal Reserve GODS?? 💵💵💯💯😄😄

[@whlewis9164]

@@jonathan7249 my mega church pastor disagrees

[@jimsimpson2820]

Medicine denial

[@thedonald011]

That rats story is insane

[@martinadoesthings]

Dont call krystal a rat!

[@annaandjuju]

I think that every parent knows that it is true. You may be able to feed your toddler very conscientiously, but after you send them to school, they no longer recognize the healthy foods that they used to love.

[@spyral00]

@@annaandjuju Yeah. unfortunately my kid grew up in California... he got addicted to processed foods very early, and I was not careful enough. He is not obese at all, but It's extremely difficult for him to go back to fruits and vegetables now. So yeah, this study is spot on.

[@bartdoo5757]

@@spyral00 Extremely difficult? He either does or doesn't.

[@annaandjuju]

@@spyral00 I don’t think it’s just California. If you look at the national nutrition guidelines for school/daycare food, there’s an option for kids as young as six months old to just subsist on nonsense foods. About two months into my daughter’s pre-k program, she was down to eating only pasta and bread. This was a kid who was gobbling curry, shellfish, borscht, rare steaks, expensive stinky cheeses, etc only months before. It took two years of homeschooling and a foraging hobby to get her to eat about 50% of what she used to love.

[@Joe-ig6hz]

I think breaking point should invite experts that are actually prescribing this medication (endocrinologists) that are very well versed in the data available for this medication to weigh in. I’m sure people would like to hear their perspective and hard data around this medication that are exploding in popularity and with a lot of misinformation out there.

[@GlutenEruption]

Totally agree

[@teresasimkins5518]

@@GlutenEruption Agree! Not This well known plagiarist. The quack is back

[@luukielol1]

'Hard data' from industry sponsored studies, by industry funded researchers, because who else is doing high cost, independent research? Not the regulators.

[@teresasimkins5518]

Also Hari said that he still eats fattening food. He never said that he has type 2 diabites, he left that part out. So, he has only been using it lose weight

[@jonathan7249]

According to the latest study, 🇺🇸 spent the most per capita for the lowest results in health care but there's NOTHING needs to CHANGE in order to maintain profit.. 💵💵💯💯😄😄

[@carmenwakefield]

Oh please, Ozempic is too expensive to become a crisis among regular people

[@loganlitz9067]

Man I guess you weren’t around when we had OC80’s

[@MJ-nx2jj]

Only until they have insurance pay it! Then you and I will have to pay for there Ozempic! Thats the next step.

[@lawrenceleske3470]

The cost of it is less than fifty dollars in the country it is made in.

[@joeking433]

The price will come down radically fast! When there is such great demand for a product and so little supply it doesn't take long until supply exceeds demand! The gov't already allowed compounding pharmacies to override Nord's patent on an emergency basis because the demand is so much higher than the supply!s. You can get compounded semaglutide (Ozempic) for as little as $50 a month! Most compounded Ozempic is closer to $300-$700 a month, however.

[@felixf4378]

Pharmaceutical drugs in a nutshell, fixes one thing, fcks up 10 other things. It blows my mind that the average person can’t comprehend that the body is a very complex system of interconnected parts. You can’t mess with one part without altering another.

[@stevehesh4993]

The New Hippocratic Oath is: "A Patient Cured Is A Customer Lost"!

[@vandanpanchal6805]

As a physician, these drugs are a patch that helps in a way, but they don’t address the root cause. And most patients end up losing so much muscle mass, that ends up making them weak!

[@tahlghitter-kalsi7057]

doesn't address the root cause, like all pharmaceuticals.

[@jpnewman1688]

​@@tahlghitter-kalsi7057of course not.. That would defeat the purpose of capitalism.. 💵💵💯💯😂😂

[@luukielol1]

A patch that you never get rid off, great..

[@SurmaSampo]

That is common in any rapid weight loss diet because that muscle was only being used to support the extra weight and weight loss consumes muscle as well as fat through the starvation process. How you don't know this as a physician is astounding.

[@angiek1827]

@@SurmaSampomost physicians in America have only taken one course in nutrition throughout their medical schooling. All doctors should refer their patients to registered dietitians if they aren’t well trained in nutrition.

[@giblet1618]

I’m having flashbacks to Valium in the 1950s

[@DurzoBlunts]

Thalidomide crisis as well

[@joeking433]

Totally different situation! Valium works on the brain, Ozempic works on the endocrine system.

[@ag6478]

Here's a fine example of what RFK Jr is fighting

[@jonathan7249]

Really.. So you need masters to dictate how you gonna live and die like slaves believe you're smart as a rock?? 😂😂😂

[@jonathan7249]

@@markwilson4374 really... It's true there's a SUCKER born every minute.. 💯💯😄😄

[@jonathan7249]

@@markwilson4374 really.. Where's the beef?? 😄😄😄

[@termsofusepolice]

The right of adult individuals to make the medical decisions of their choice?? Kennedy is such a brave warrior!

[@jonathan7249]

@@termsofusepolice so you need a master to tell you how to live and die because your IQ is too low?? 😄😄😄

[@jasonterschak5065]

Ozempic reminds me of the olestra craze of the 90s. Nothing that easy doesn't have a downside.

[@carolyna.869]

Luckily I stocked up on Phen Phen before the ban!

[@whlewis9164]

Upvote for greasy stools!

[@jpnewman1688]

Really.. So how many times you VOTED?? 😂😂😂

[@picardy7488]

Was it a craze? I don't know anyone who ate food with Olestra. But I agree that there may be a downside. For me, I know people were generally of normal weight in the past so it should be possible today. I wouldn't take this unless I were really obese (not just overweight which I am).

[@ambergressman4460]

Olestra was listed in a couple recipes from my maternal grandmothers collection. I had to Google it. My mother prefers margarine. I don't know how I'm even related to these people..those aren't even actual food

[@Happytravellerkimmy]

Just so we're clear, these drugs increase your risk of thyroid cancer and thyroid disease. As someone who had a benign tumor on my thyroid (not from Ozempic, unrelated), you don't want to mess with your thyroid. I'm not a doctor but if you have any thyroid disease history in your family, just do your due diligence.

[@albertusvanlubeeck9161]

His point about processed food making you hungrier is more accurate than he lets on. I eat healthy 95% of the time and feel full or content 95% of the time. Recently, I added a fiber supplement to my diet, and now I eat slightly less but feel full 99% of the time. However, last week, I had a fistful of Skittles after lunch and within an hour, I was starving as if I hadn't eaten lunch at all. It's crucial to be cautious about what you eat.

[@termsofusepolice]

Skittles also helped get Trayvon killed. I mean, it was mainly George Zimmerman. But Skittles played a role.

[@SweetSassyBull]

I'm absolutely the same and it happens with McDonald's.

[@noneyabizz8337]

Long term side effects? Like some other stuff they pushed real hard a few years ago, the public is the trial pool

[@jpnewman1688]

So you don't like Capitalism?? 😂😂😂

[@gfys756]

​@@jpnewman1688Corporatism.

[@tonyanzalone384]

GLP 1 meds have been on the market for 19 years so we already know what long term use looks like

[@davidgray1515]

and they willingly volunteer cause they have no willpower to stop eating junk food.

[@shanechilson3717]

I'm an RD and have been warning people about this drug since it came out. It doesnt address the root of the issue, especially with weight loss; and I'm afraid it will have have long-term side effects not yet seen.

[@fafers15]

Anything but supporting your local small farmers lmao

[@irresponsibleparent3]

I'm all for that but most people live in or close to cities, if you work long hours in the week, and have kids when can you find time to go to local farmers markets?

[@gfys756]

​@@irresponsibleparent3Many cities also have farmers markets. I've been to the Brooklyn farmers market by Grand Army Plaza many times.

[@nepaliyuva408]

Local small farmers price gouge..grow your own

[@jpnewman1688]

@@nepaliyuva408 yup.. It's good to have some MJ at home.. 💯💯😂😂😂

[@eduardocantarero4495]

Just place the blame on everyone and everything, except for oneself. Accountability is gone out the window. Just wait until 10 years from now when there’s a MASSIVE lawsuit on Ozempic.

[@joeking433]

Seek the Lord!

[@nicoazevedo3581]

We have one problem. Our representatives do not represent working class people. They represent the corporations.

[@asnark7115]

The most important magic Oze manifests are hundreds of millions for its dealers.

[@1diggers1]

What a happy guy Johann seems to be. Got to like people like that.

[@jpnewman1688]

I bet you didn't know most people will follow narcissists/sociopaths/psychopaths who tend to be charming, good looking, well-dressed, well-spoken and often appear powerful/wealthy.. 💯💯 And guess what their favorite jobs are?? 😂😂😂

[@Pine_Gap_Island]

He has had to work very hard in his mind to get to that state.

[@passyourielts]

He's had depression for ages. Does a great TED Talk on it. Maybe he's over it now. Looking super healthy on his dystopian meds.

[@Gabagool93]

His Joe Rogan episode is incredible

[@orozcodavid101]

Ngl, his takes are usually overhyped. Doctors found a lot of issues with his articles on depression, where some of what he included was just straight up false. Not to say that he's entirely wrong, but hes not a doctor, he just has a narrative he tries to push for views, when the reality is usually a bit more nuanced.

[@j.c.jeggis1818]

Ozempic is to food addiction what Suboxone is to opiate addiction. You go on it for a few months or years to “turn off” the overwhelming cravings. You use that time to get your shit together and build good habits. Then you taper off. In extreme cases I can see someone needing them for 5+ years, but that shouldn’t be the goal.

[@goco4697]

As a general rule, if your doctor recommends a drug to you, know they are getting paid for it.

[@josephtorre9554]

Thank you Saggaer for asking that question on children recommended.

[@andysauro1500]

Lab Grown Meats have me terrified for the exact same reason why he explained Ultra Processed Foods have led to obesity and disease.

[@SurmaSampo]

It isn't the processing that is the problem, but the ingredients used that make the food calorically dense and trigger our endorphins response to fat, sugar and salt. This is where the cravings and addiction come from. Specifically, sugar decreases Leptin and increases Ghrelin production increasing hunger and reducing satiation. Eating sugar makes you want to eat more and stops you from feeling full. This has nothing to do with lab grown meats at all.

[@kathywebb4129]

“No one ever dieted more than me” so now it’s ok for him to take it

[@matthewgubbins8515]

I wish celebrity would stop buying it all up. My mum uses it for her diabetes and the pharmacy she uses can't get enough always

[@jpnewman1688]

Welcome to capitalism.. 😂😂😂

[@irresponsibleparent3]

Have you guys gone the compounded pharmacy route? It's cheaper and the same active ingredient mixed with vitamin B.

[@Dan16673]

You mean choice?

[@lindasutton4014]

Celebrities don’t take this, they push it out to the masses. This is mass marketing. The rich have a drug they use, it’s much more expensive

[@Ben-kk6xe]

This is where you guys do your best work. Bringing nuance to complicated topics in our lives that are not 100% political. Great job.

[@jpnewman1688]

Really.. So how many times you VOTED?? 😂😂😂

[@DB57RB]

The medical industry is moving towards not wanting doctors talking to their patients about weight. All to not offend them and potentially lose them as a patient. Insane!

[@Eliminator5555]

OZEMPIC is not a pill, it's an injection or more specifically what's referred to in the industry as a biologic.

[@termsofusepolice]

Please, for the love of Christ, tell me I did not just throw away $1000 on black market Ozempic tablets!!

[@harryv6752]

Get moving. Get outside. Hydrate. Abstain from indulging in snacks, processed, fast, and sugary foods. Consume whole foods. Learn how to cook if you don't know how to. You gotta be hard on yourself and push yourself if you really want to succeed with your health. Hold your health and you fitness accountable and non-negotiable. Cos nobody is gonna be there for you, your health, and your fitness journey except yourself. "Discipline equals freedom." -Jocko Willink

[@jonathan7249]

So you like Jocko the psycho.. 😂😂😂

[@harryv6752]

@@jonathan7249 Haters gonna hate. I say, "Let 'em." 🤘

[@gfys756]

​@@jonathan7249So you like being overweight and relying on a corporation to fix it for you? How incredibly American of you... 😂

[@jonathan7249]

@@harryv6752 i bet you didn't know Jocko the psycho caused the unnecessary deaths of many Marines and Iraq civilians.. 💯💯

[@termsofusepolice]

Workaholics want to claim long hours are about "discipline" when, in reality, their brains are wired such that they receive a huge dopamine rush when they are actively engaged in work. It's like a junk food junkie saying it takes "discipline" to eat a quart of Haagen-Dazs.

[@AndyPrimeOne]

And then they is me, taking ozempic to control my diabetes because other meds made me so sick i dropped a ton of weight from puking so much.

[@cede-hf7vi]

I have had family members struggle with alcoholism, a doctor put one of my family members on Ozempic because it crushes all appetites, including alcohol. It’s has been a huge success and it seems their life is getting back on track.

[@Petunia3001]

Just saw this information presented on Adam Conover’s channel recently. It has been helping people with various addictions, and apparently, even with more behavioral addictions like gambling?! Fascinating.

[@PE-ox7hv]

A “quick fix” mentality can be harmful.

[@user-fw9gp8wg7f]

It’s not a quick fix. It can take years to shed the weight

[@jpnewman1688]

@@user-fw9gp8wg7f yup.. Same as VOTING for gangsters.. 💯💯😂😂😂

[@jillw892]

When I grew up the only thing to eat as snacks was fruit maybe a sandwich. And we walked or rode our bikes everywhere we went. Now we have poisonous food and no one leaves the house

[@jupeter24]

yup!!!

[@PepeToTheMooon]

Hard pass on taking this. Only thing quickly it’ll end up doing is deleting you sooner.

[@jpnewman1688]

So what are you living for beside eat, drink, sleep, shit, sex, sing, dance and travel like a little bird SEEKING HAPPINESS?? 😂😂😂

[@user-gf3dl5tf6p]

Good topic, superficial discussion. What was not touched on is that the semaglutide / GLP1 / Ozempic / Wygovy... is a peptide hormone. Native GLP1 is naturally in tiny amounts and lasts around minute in the body. Synthetic GLP1 Ozempic lasts in the body for about 5 weeks. Activation of GLP-1 receptors in the brain can influence neurotransmitter release, particularly serotonin and dopamine, which are involved in mood regulation and reward processing. So while GLP-1 itself is not a neurotransmitter, it can modulate neurotransmission through its receptors in the brain. I feel great compassion for parents who have to make this kind of decision for their children as I suspect this "hormone" will not in the long run turn out to be a good thing for children brain development and possibly mental health.

[@pjacobsen1000]

5:05 "Between 1979 and 2000 obesity more than doubled in the United States." But all the processed foods he blames existed long before 1979. Candy bars, potato chips, McDonald's, sugary drinks, etc., it was all there since the 1950s or before. What did change was our wealth. In 1979, it was still considered a special treat to get a Coca Cola, it was only on special occasions we ate potato chips or candy bars or cake, and generally we ate less food because it was more expensive compared to our salary. Unfortunately, it seems like now we can't hold back. We can't resist temptation. That is the real problem.

[@panagenesis2695]

The drug literally paralyzes your stomach so you don't digest quickly. You're telling that's not going to hurt you, down the road???

[@ItsRyanStudios]

Sure, but it's important to have a nuanced perspective and consider the cost/benefit. Obesity and heart disease are some of the primary causes of death and disease, if these drugs cause more good than harm, let people take it! Most people will never pull themselves up by the bootstraps and get healthy on their own

[@whlewis9164]

lol that is not how it works. How would that even improve weight loss?

[@orozcodavid101]

It can hurt you if you're on it for a prolonged period of time, doctors tell you the risks before you start taking it. From the research i've done, with both the risks and benefits considered, people who are clinically obese still overall benefit from the drug. You have to weigh the increased risk associated with obesity, (diabetes, heart disease, high blood pressure) against the risks associated with ozempic. If someone is close to a normal weight then it probably isnt worth the risk for them, but if someone is morbidly obese, the benefits highly outweigh the risks.

[@amandaoconnor2854]

I'm not on the drug but researched it as my sister is. A side effect can be stomach paralysis but that's not 'how the drug works'. Please have a truthful conversation about the real benefits and serious risks of the drug. And of the Western factory food system that permeates our society.

[@bristlefist]

What's news to these people about the psychological fallout once an addictive vice is removed has been the most basic piece of information to anyone that has ever worked in addiction or has experience in any 12 step fellowship. It's insane that so little is understood of addiction at the public level. These foods are drugs, they're not food and they should be treated as such

[@joshledford8921]

Foods and learned behavior over time from parents/partners etc. I completely agree with you about just how ignorant people are when it comes to addictions that aren't having to do with the typical drugs people get addicted to. You can look at the majority of the comments here and see...These people have no clue. You think that 400 pound person actually wants to be 400 pounds? Outside of some kind of kink most obese people hate being obese and most of them try dieting and exercising periodically throughout their life and fail every time. And its very hard on them because they want to lose the weight, they have no idea how, and when they ask for help they hear the same things over and over again. "Get better self control" So you saying 42% of Americans have no self control? No way. They never lost the weight because they were never taught proper nutrition to begin with and they are in an uphill battle once they get older to try and figure it out before they die. And after years of eating so poorly and living the lifestyle they live, their body doesn't exactly want to lose the weight...anyway this got long so i'm done LOL

[@massi9030]

As someone who was obese in the past it baffles me the lengths some people go to lose weight that isn’t working out. I do understand the process food and health problems one may face. But for the ones who can just have 2-4 healthy meal rotations and can eat the same thing for days on end and work out. To those people who seek the easy way out but face no problems other then being lazy. Let’s be honest which is most of us, put your mind soul and body to the grind it’s worth every sore day, all the time spent in the gym, worth every drop of sweat. It’s a lifestyle not some magic drug

[@ericarona8599]

3:38 DRAMATIC! Look you can get a prescription easily but when you go to the pharmacy they don't have it in stock and you're not going to be able to afford it🤣

[@GregariousAntithesis]

Drugs you have to take into perpetuity long term especially when young rather than doing the actual work first with diet and exercise is a complete disaster

[@ajwalker4416]

I think people just look at the title of a video and make a comment. If you listen to what he said and WHY, you'd stop trying to blame people who have been hoodwinked by the US FDA and food companies.

[@GregariousAntithesis]

@@ajwalker4416 my opinion about most drugs. Just like diabetes is a choice and can be fixed by diet and exercise.

[@matthewtaylor3347]

@@GregariousAntithesis not all diabetes is the same. There is type 1 and type 2. Type 1 is an autoimmune disease that is genetic. Type 2 is the one that can be staved off with good eating

[@GregariousAntithesis]

@@matthewtaylor3347 really einstein and which one is created from diet choices and lack of movement 🤪

[@irresponsibleparent3]

The point of this is to use it as a tool along with diet and exercise. Studies show that those who don't make lifestyle changes regain the weight and the ones that keep it off took it seriously.

[@TheMPExperience]

So don't actually deal with the root of the problem, like our eating habits, food supply, and psychological issues, and let a drug company have half of America on medication. Sounds like putting a band aide on an bullet wound. Also, sounds great for drug companies. They would have over 150 million Americans on a drug for the rest of their lives. The anecdote for the American food system.

[@Jm-wt1fs]

I think the idea is that the drug lets them break the habits and develop a better lifestyle with food and eating that they could then continue once they stop taking the drug

[@whlewis9164]

@@Jm-wt1fs yep - that’s the idea. If you don’t change the habits and carry the improvements forward eventually without it, you’ve missed the point. I hope folks aren’t expecting to be on it indefinitely.

[@jpnewman1688]

Really.. But how many times you VOTED?? 😂😂😂

[@jpnewman1688]

@@Jm-wt1fs so how many times you VOTED then HOPE for CHANGE?? 😂😂😂

[@jpnewman1688]

@@whlewis9164 so you don't know most people just wanted easy quick solutions?? 💯💯😂😂😂

[@Tt-nt1iu]

I’m 39 and paying a price right now for eating a meatball sandwich late last night. I was also hammered. Someone hold me ……

[@lg206]

I would love to see a side-by-side comparison of a two week trial. One person eats what our grandparents ate at our age and walk 45m before work, 45m after. The other person takes Ozempic. I have a hard time believing that two weeks worth of clean diet and exercise won’t help someone drop a good five lbs

[@bluorb]

sadly, most people, at least americans, are "too busy" to do simple things like that.

[@codbdup88]

I wish there was a person like this that could explain the pros and cons of every issue in the same way!

[@jpnewman1688]

Really.. So how many times you VOTED?? 😂😂😂

[@rosshole]

@@jpnewman1688 You keep posting this same comment. At least get the grammar right.

[@gmiha]

He’s given nothing that hasn’t already been said. All drugs have side effects. It’s just a book selling campaign

[@codbdup88]

@@gmiha if this same kind of discussion was talked about for something like Covid vaccines and treatment tens of thousands of lives could’ve been saved but we got tons of lies and misinformation instead

[@DurzoBlunts]

He's biased AF, why would you want more of that dolt

[@Batzarn82]

I’m sure this will have no negative side effects in the future…….

[@gmiha]

The drug has been around since 2017. It’s not as if the negative side effects are only activated when your intention is to lose weight 😂😂

[@jpnewman1688]

Yup.. It's similar to VOTING for gangsters then BEG for CHANGE.. 💯💯😂😂😂

[@user-zk8ed4kd2b]

This author is everywhere. I just listened to two podcasts which had him as a guest. I'm not putting him down for promoting his book. I'm just remarking because this is the third time I'm running into him since last night. Pretty sue this book will be a bestseller.

[@echails7900]

Anything to escape accountability and virtue our society is a trainwreck

[@luisfernandosantosmora1000]

RFK JR doesn't sound so crazy now

[@rosshole]

🤣

[@termsofusepolice]

The side-effects of Ozempic don't make Kennedy ANY less batshit crazy.

[@whatis5386]

Johann Hari is the best. Thanks for having him on.❤

[@richardahola692]

My doctor has been recommending ozempic for my diabetes. $1000 per month is impossible for me. Insulin is less than $1000 per year.

[@runswithtrees6173]

I wonder if this guy ever thought, “hey maybe I should not eat garbage poison food and if I’m upset or “hungry” instead of eating I should go on a walk”

[@omowhanre]

I’m sure when he was emotionally and physically fighting for his life on obesity, this thought never crossed his mind. I wish he met you earlier.

[@DurzoBlunts]

​@@omowhanre sounds like a skill issue and his parents kicked the can by giving him fast easy food.

[@matthewjimenez3556]

This drug is also shown to decrease lean muscle mass. Long term that is just a disaster for your overall health.

[@jackm3040]

You can't assess that in a vacuum. It takes muscle mass to haul around an extra 50-100lbs. Whenever you diet, you will lose some muscle mass. You just have to compensate to maintain and rebuild it. The loss of weight is DRASTICALLY AND HUGELY more impactful on health than the immediate and reversible (within reason) loss of muscle mass.

[@mklite]

Being obese is a bigger disaster for your overall health.

[@jpnewman1688]

How about VOTING?? 😂😂😂

[@programking655]

Because losing weight in general causes a loss of lean mass, there’s nothing special about the GLP-1 drugs in that regard.

[@rosshole]

@@jpnewman1688 What's your point? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@stevewilson3791]

Underlying root cause - corporate greed.

[@jupeter24]

yup!!

[@43hgk]

Im watching this video eating lunch at bar looking up at a television screen its a commercial on cnn for Ozempic lmao 🤣🤣

[@mbamebeckley1]

dont you love the British compliments " i am ridiculously excited to join you" lol

[@tylerhackner9731]

Exercise is good

[@elKarlo]

I thought exercising was a sign of white supremacy?

[@jpnewman1688]

Use your brains or lose it.. 💯💯😂😂😂

[@briano1642]

Johann wrote an OUTSTANDING book on depression.

[@popps33]

Love this! This is touching on why I prefer to live in Europe. When I was in France & Suisse, they actually give foods nutritional grades which is very helpful. What was a huge shock was when I returned to US, I got ill and had indigestion. There is something terribly wrong with the food & agriculture sector in US. This wonderdrug is a revelation but we have to have more caution and tackle the true problem!

[@zzzzzzzznnnnn]

My mom has diabetes and they refuse to give her Ozempic at the pharmacy, even though the DR approved it. Seems sketchy

[@termsofusepolice]

It's very possible her insurance plan does not cover it. It's incredibly expensive.

[@zzzzzzzznnnnn]

@@termsofusepolice She has paid full price for meds before. The excuse was that the dosage was too high. But both the DR and insurance improved it. Walgreens is all i have to say

[@paulharsh78]

Not one mention of loss of muscle mass. Preserving muscle mass is crucial in older age. These drugs don’t just make you lose body fat, but you will lose a lot of muscle too. An older post menopausal woman, who loses 10lbs of muscle will have drastic negative consequences.

[@lizahipolito4422]

What I know is that i am so much healthier using glp1 meds. My inflamation from a disease i have is significantly down. My pre-diabetic numbers have greatly improved. I was never an over eater and i love healthy clean foods but despite that because of a disease that i have, i kept gaining weight. I haven't been this healthy in over 20 years and the difference is glp1 meds. They have me back my life and i am grateful!

[@lancegoodthrust546]

God l love this country. The only country where our hipsters promote organic and a healthy way of living while at the same time taking heavibg medications for their "anxiety" or "depression". It truly is beautiful.

[@dadvsdad1470]

Don't stop guys more people are waking up!!!

[@nimeshpatel6006]

Capitalism breeds innovation. Ozempic is a great example of how 100% free market capitalism benefits everyone. If you want Ozempic, then buy it. If you don't want it, then do not buy it.

[@jvc8947]

If you want Ozempic, but cannot afford it because the free market isn’t free, but set up so winners win more…and the bulk of the public remains struggling to afford basic life-then what? 😂

[@bradstewart8663]

This may sound crazy but most of my life I was addicted to one drug or another. Now that I'm older and stopped taking drugs I have switched my addiction to eating. IMO eating bad/addicting foods are way worse on my body then the drugs I took in the past.

[@robertrichards9565]

What makes me skeptical about this “expert” is his necessary assertion that issue regarding obesity is “processed” food which is a very broad term and absolutely existed in high quantities in the 70’s instead of the academic consensus which is excess sugar and low fiber. Processed foods certainly are bad due to low nutrient density and high sugar content but you can certainly have an “all natural, fresh diet” that can lead to the exact same outcomes if you eat excess calories.

[@babakd9892]

This drug is meant for people who repeatedly fail lifestyles measures and have high cardiovascular risk. And for them, which is a huge amount of people, it helps lower heart attack, kidney damage, liver damage, and more. The drug wouldn’t even exist if so many people were willing to diet and exercise but they’re not.

[@SweetSassyBull]

Well said, and eloquently put across. I'm not sure my own comment would've been so polite 😬

[@jameshorton3692]

This shit is late stage Roman Empire type shit

[@lf1496]

Last stage Capitalism💯

[@itssteve6018]

​@@lf1496it's above capitalism. Capitalism is thinking too small

[@jpnewman1688]

So you think the Roman Empire has ended?? 😂😂😂

[@jpnewman1688]

​@@itssteve6018really.. What's that?? 😂😂😂

[@User-1683x2]

Late stage multiculturalism

[@heartsofparadox]

I went from 350# to 175# and still dropping. The trick for me was identifying hunger as opposed to boredom. If a raw carrot sounds tasty, that's hunger. If a piece of cake sounds tasty but a raw carrot does not, that's boredom. Before I made this distinction, I thought that if I was thinking about food, I must be hungry.

[@GG2002_NJ]

“Artificial solution to an artificial problem.” More like it is a “profitable Corporate Enterprise for another profitable Corporate Enterprise.”

[@attackofthetheeyecreatures3472]

I think a lot of people will say "Just stop eating."" Yeah, not completely realistic. But every time I'm out with friends, the first thing they want is some form of fast-food. When I drive by most fast-food restaurants, they're packed all the time. And the later you eat that fast-food, the risk for diabetes, strokes, heart attacks, obesity, and stomach issues goes up. Stop going to fast-food restaurants. If not, stop going there after 8. Pretty simple.

[@jackm3040]

My elderly mother has a McDonald's fetish. I get a QPounder with her about once a month. I drink a bottle of wine once a month as well. This reinforces the dislike I have for fast food and alcohol. Sounds weird. But I am disgusted by fast food and alcohol. Trying these things once a month keeps my revulsion alive and in mind lest my brain resets. Sounds backwards, but it works. My brain emotionally remembers the ease and buzz of those two things for a long time. My brain only emotionally remembers how bad those things actually feel for a short time. I remind myself on purpose. Build the wall when strong so it will be there to protect you when you are weak.

[@gfys756]

​@@jackm3040Very relatable comment. Very good points, Jack. It sounds counter-intuitive, but it actually works.

[@Gojus2602]

Chrono biology. Not every person is optimized to do that. And evolutionary it makes sense that some of us are optimized for darkness. But overall and on average, yes. Like telling everyone to eat chicken and broccoli. Some folks can't eat chicken and broccoli

[@TheRotbringer]

I find it cheaper to eat fresh foods as opposed to frozen, fast, and processed.

[@julioramirez8768]

And easier to manage portions and additives.

[@1massboy]

Well, let’s take into account. How many hours you work a day and how much time of that is spent on your feet. As for cheap. That’s all dependent on what food you’re actually buying. Milk and orange juice are definitely not as cheap as soda. Though you can make an argument of just drinking water. But very few people can just drink water. And I mean, we can take a look at a pack of Ramen noodles and no how cheap those are in comparison to buying a box of Barilla spaghetti.

[@alexleung842]

Milk and OJ are not fresh foods. Try water instead

[@alexleung842]

Spaghetti isn't fresh food. Try not eating refined carbs. Eat some veggies instead. Get some carrots see how cheap that is (cheaper than ramen or pasta)

[@noneyabizz8337]

You can also eat produce raw. People are just lazy and make excuses.

[@RumHam5570]

We’ve gained some weight on a home-cooked high-vegetable and high-fat diet, but still within healthy BMI. We’re also satiated by comparatively small meals, whether or not the cream and fats are added. While we’ve enjoyed every bite, it’s not difficult to cut back on fats and cream to pare back calories if we need to. We’re definitely sedentary, so there’s plenty we can do. Our experience couldn’t be more different from a lot of folks who struggle with diet and weight. I appreciate the insights from this guest, and I think that it is possible for medicines like ozempic to shift the paradigm for many who just feel “stuck”. Medicine may not alter the factors that contribute to overeating and overconsumption, but it would at least provide temporary relief from the psychological and physical burdens imposed by obesity. While medication doesn’t change the underlying issues (thus requiring a maintained medicine intake), it would at least materialize some of the benefits of a healthy weight to those who would otherwise need to imagine or envision it. Maybe then, it could help people change habit or develop healthy changes. As for recommending in-person visits to doctors for prescription, not a bad idea. Having a regular checkup twice a year to renew a prescription isn’t prohibitive and can help doctors determine if dosage is appropriate and will also allow people to track their health through concrete numbers so they can observe any trajectory or pattern over time.

[@tgdelta]

One thing that this isn’t addressing is that Ozempic is a diabetes medication that happens to be really effective at causing people to lose weight. If you’re diabetic, you’re abusing the medication already. Yes, they have the versions that are marketed for obesity but so many people can’t get the meds they need because of the abuse

[@blexaarron]

Just go outside and walk. Everyday.

[@MegaClogger]

Truers. Make a sentence by mapping out a letter every day

[@lucristianx]

You can’t out run your mouth

[@FellaGuy2]

Lol thats good an all but you ain't outwalking the average trash American diet. Eat less trash. Eat less calorically dense foods. Hit the gym of course but you need to be in a caloric deficit to lose weight. It's hard to out run your fork.

[@buddzilla187]

​@lucristianx still if they go from no activity to walking twice a day it will offset the calories taken in. They won't have 6 pack abs, but I believe most will lose some weight. Also, they will have a better cardiovascular fitness.

[@Mystdragon]

Getting outside you get sunshine which our body needs.

[@kingatowning]

I'm shocked Krystal didn't ask about Palestine in the interview

[@jpnewman1688]

Really.. I bet you VOTED a lot.. 💯💯😂😂😂

[@DurzoBlunts]

All of the Palestinians are starving and don't have diabetes so ozemipic doesn't apply in this conversation.

[@c.m.8860]

Also- Japan shames obesity 😬

[@bman7673]

The same food you ate a week ago still sitting in your gut that your body can’t break down for nutrients and is rotting in a hot humid environment seems like a great idea

[@DeathByToob]

*I live in Canada and our country basically incentivizes ill-health.* You can smoke, drink, not exercise and eat bad food and our society promises to cover you once you have to go to the hospital. But, if you go to the gym or buy fresh produce, that costs you and the government has no subsidies or policies in place to facilitate those positive life choices.

[@pjalexandra]

Agreed. And then we all pay for that, and our medical systems get overwhelmed to the point of near-collapse. Also they are in the process of trying to take away natural health products and de-regulate certain new drugs & foods that they won't specify what they are (Section 31 of the current Budget Bill C-69).

[@whlewis9164]

OK, so is the government is also incentivizing you to break your leg because it’s free to treat it at the hospital. Making smart choices about diet and physical activity levels is its own incentive. Try doing some logic exercises while you’re working out.

[@DeathByToob]

@whlewis9164 I never said anything about accidents, so maybe try working on your reading comprehension. I was specifically talking about lifestyle choices, as this video is about obesity related drugs. You are completely off topic. If the government has already gotten involved in Healthcare, then it should also give incentives to stay healthy, not just be the list resort when things go wrong.

[@mikusoxlongius]

M. A. I. D. awaits...

[@dontforgettolike7127]

Funnily enough, last week I noticed I could grab a handful of fat on my belly. Immediately decided to start burning it. Ozempic didn’t cross my mind. It’s all about willpower.

[@jpnewman1688]

Good for you.. But how many times you VOTED?? 😂😂😂

[@elgordoylaflaca4932]

Spectacular segment thank you for this!

[@760mom]

Thank you for covering this.

[@larryk2108]

So I’m confused, he’s has researched the causes of obesity, he’s aware of the side effects of the drugs, he’s gotten himself down to a more functional weight. So why not ween of the drugs and eat healthy Whole Foods and work within the natural order? This makes no sense.

[@TEFFTPATTERN]

I don’t think the conversation was as much about him personally as it started out, he wants to talk about the greater effect on society

[@MsDarylM]

I’d be interested to know why he says if you stop taking the drug you become obese again. Because your insatiable hunger returns? Because fat returns despite the diet?

[@larryk2108]

@@MsDarylM my understanding is that while taking it, it blocks you hunger drive , once you stop you’re back to the same old habits. Plus from what I’ve been told it’s becoming more difficult to get and you need to take a shot every week pretty much the rest of your life.

[@DandelionScribe]

He literally never talked about the risks lol

[@marcushudak]

It doesn't seem like there were any risks to the person taking the medicine, only the societal risk for young girls

[@SurmaSampo]

You have to buy his book to find out, because he needs to sell his book.

[@BennyOcean]

It's an appetite suppressant. He said he tried everything and nothing worked. People always say that but it's an excuse. Bottom line is changing you lifestyle habits. It's not impossible and you don't need drugs.

[@toni_Tony_TONE]

Unfortunately all the comments of ‘eat less calories’ or ‘just go out and walk’ or ‘just fill your cupboard with good food’ don’t take into account that the morbidly obese don’t respond to any of these in the short term - these drugs do, and should be a frontline option for these members of society as they need all the metabolic help they can get.

[@timothyadams7638]

We need to teach people that consuming simple carbohydrates and processed food leads to high insulin, high blood sugar, and all of the other health problems that occur as well.

[@josurke]

Fundamentally FALSE - high calorie consumption leads to these things - regardless of simple/complex/process carbs BS influencers feed you. Calories are king.

[@runswithtrees6173]

Yes. Also we need to teach people that processed food is literally poison and it will make you obese and sick.

[@Iluvchknz]

Kind of insane that this is such a pervasive belief… I mean if you’re fat you shouldn’t eat them because it so bad for you. However, thin and normal weight people eat them and it’s fine. Bread and pasta are not the devil. Eating them isn’t the problem. Consuming processed food lab foods is the problem. When a cookie bought at the store lights your brain up like you have had crack that is the problem.

[@AustinL911]

​@@josurkeCalories are only king if your willpower can override your hormones. If they can't, you're better off keeping your insulin levels at a reasonable level via avoiding simple sugars and carbs.

[@AustinL911]

Dr Fung would agree.