Framing Gun Comparison! Milwaukee v Paslode v Hikoki v Dewalt [2020]

[@SpriteHide]

I bought this nail gun as we were planning to renew all the fencing in our back garden. As this involved 19 double slatted fence panels, 10 of which needed to be cut down in size, we knew there would be a need for a great kzbin.infoUgkxHQsUrwNr5GQrnx9V4xDdUr56qxwuiBHt deal of re-stapling the wooden slats to the wooden framework. Each alteration required the re-stapling of 62 wooden slats with double staples. Prior to starting the work we ordered sufficient additional staples as per the instructions with the gun.The gun performed fantastically throughout the entire project with no jams of misfires. The adjustable power was excellent allowing the staples to be fired into the 8mm slats to the correct depth. For the price paid this was a bargain and it proved itself to be so reliable and versatile making an arduous task much quicker and professional. I cannot recommend this product highly enough and it will be used on many other projects in the future.

[@turbocut]

you two really give a good, clear and factual demonstration on this, there are loads of videos where the reviewer is the owner of the tool and therefore really talks it up but you two don’t do that. Top blokes, top review!

[@OZToolTalk]

thanks man. we try REALLY hard to be objective ! :D

[@Dazzafourfifty]

I have the Hikoki framer running the 36v multi volt battery platform and a Hikoki 15ga finish nailer, both are brilliant and perform well ! Love using them !

[@OZToolTalk]

nice! Noting though that the multivolt batteries are both 18V and 36V, and that the nailers themselves are 18V.

[@joshblackmore1206]

I’ve had my hikoki for over a year now. We work with a lot of hardwood doing renovations. It’s been great although it doesn’t skew nail that well. My bosses paslode is a headache. It’s fussy, high maintenance and lacks power. Blows my mind the paslode guns are so expensive. I’d hand nail everything over buying one 😂

[@OZToolTalk]

cheers for the feedback Josh

[@blusuperman100]

My father has a HiKoki & is really happy with it. I have just ordered a Milwaukee after watching loads of reviews.

[@OZToolTalk]

nice

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

I've had the HiKoki for a while now and love it. But I was going to buy a Milwaukee tomorrow so I am glad this review popped up because I don't think I'll bother now. Cheers guys for another great review.

[@jethro1066]

Tools & Stuff what are your thoughts on the Airbow?

[@OZToolTalk]

thanks pal! hey where are you from ? [Dwain]

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

@@OZToolTalk Auckland.

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

@@jethro1066 I don't see the point really. It's massive and you have to carry around a special compressor just for that nailer. I don't see why anyone would by that over a cordless nailer. To me it is an invention that has arrived 15 years too late.

[@jethro1066]

Tools & Stuff interesting, I know we’ve chatted before and you made me cry about my hilti. I’m finally coming back to the land of the piss down. And was just wondering about a few tools. I’ve seen the prices for when I get home and they scare me, a little. So I was comprising a wish list in my head.nailer being one. Here’s one, do you ever use bumpfire?

[@benjaminromshak2921]

Love the Hikoki (Metabo HPT in the states) I will say that it would be nice to have the option to throw an extended magazine on it though

[@Dale37]

I have ran a Paslode framing and finish nailer for five years now. I just got the Milwaukee 30 degree framing nailer and 18 gauge finish nailer and they are my go to now. The bump fire setting is all I use and wished the Paslode guns had it in the past. The Hitachi as it's called here in the U.S was a consideration but I already had Milwaukee tools.

[@OZToolTalk]

Makes good sense Dale :D

[@N1rOx]

it's called metabo hpt now in the US

[@dansheehy7415]

Hi guys. Great review, very thorough. I'm a carpenter and I've had the hikoki nailer for a couple of years. I really love it! I know fellas that have the DeWalt and paslode and they just don't compare in terms of power or speed or easy maintenance. Its so reliable, it works perfectly every single time and has never even jammed on me, even if it's left unused for months on end. You are right about the stupid rafter hook on it though, but hikoki do have a smaller hook, which is easily swapped out for that one and it's much nicer. I think the gun shuts off after like half an hour of non use but that doesn't really bother me.

[@OZToolTalk]

cheers Dan, nice feedback.

[@freelikeaman960]

Hi Dan, do you have the miss fire issue on your Hikoki nailer?

[@Mattt1527]

I like the paslode for doing the roof and little things but air for the rest. Paslode I can also clean and service myself.

[@zaneh6224]

Yep, I have had my Paslode framers for many years, they have served me well, ultra reliable, easy to service myself,

[@Patrick-857]

@@zaneh6224 The only problem I ever have with my Paslode is sometimes it starts dry firing because the follower in the magazine sticks. I believe its caused by the glue on the nails, so cleaning helps. Other than that it is extremely reliable.

[@bannockchief]

I like my paslode, I use it for framing, sheathing, and siding when nails are appropriate. I use it year around, dirt, snow, rain, it works. Never had in issue with my new one for three years, but they do get grumpy when they get abused for a long time.

[@OZToolTalk]

good to hear Bannock!

[@andyallan1897]

I’ve had mine over 12 years. Serviced every year. Out kicks mates new paslode.

[@messenger8279]

Great review. I have owned a Paslode for many years and without a doubt its the most unreliable and frustrating tool i have ever owned. Many times i've wanted to smash the bloody thing. Doesn't matter how many times you clean it either. That's a poor excuse as i see it ,for a tool that lacks power and is so unreliable. My next will be Hikoki.

[@OZToolTalk]

Thanks for sharing

[@LongRangeRifleSystem]

Hikoki is great in many areas. But my god the belt hook is awful & the weight can sometimes make life hard. But out the 4 it is my choice (haven’t used milwaukee)

[@messenger8279]

@@LongRangeRifleSystem Just waiting for mine to arrive. I am hoping I can change that hook to something smaller.

[@histguy101]

@@LongRangeRifleSystem Do you mean the rafter hook?

[@LongRangeRifleSystem]

@@histguy101 yeah, it swivels around to become the rafter hook, but as a belt hook it’s too loose

[@bartnettle]

Gen 3 is working great and a no brainer for me at the moment, though bunnings running a paslode framer and finisher for $1299

[@mickquaid7709]

Hikoki have released a new spring which makes it wayyy softer so you don’t have to use so much force and genuinely makes the gun seem lighter now

[@joshstevens9577]

Mick Quaid really? Where do you buy?

[@tehsheik]

I'd also like to buy this

[@arianaandjamesrabanaleslop9053]

What's the model # for kit or bare tool

[@arianaandjamesrabanaleslop9053]

Do you have the model # for kit o bare tool

[@arianaandjamesrabanaleslop9053]

@@joshstevens9577 do you have the model number for the kit o bare tool..

[@sibbyd8743]

Best comparison video I've seen so far on cordless framing nailers. Thanks guys!

[@OZToolTalk]

Glad you liked it!

[@Wackywoodworks]

I love my Hitachi/Hikoki I also have the brader as well... They haven't skipped a beat and just works when I want it to work. (I also have the AEG Brad nailers and prefer the Hitachi one over them) The weight you point out doesn't bother me and haven't really noticed it... My rafter hook isn't that big like the one you got... ? My "father in Law" been a builder for 50 odd years... and a Paslode user for years is seriously thinking of switching to Hitachi/Hikok after using mine for a while...

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

We seemed to get smaller hooks on the nailers in NZ for some reason.

[@thetallcarpenter]

Great video guys. As much as the non gas nailers are reliable and powerful, I've never gone over to them purely based on their additional weight and bulkyness compared to the Paslode. I can fire a couple if thousand nails a day when roofing on a big job, and the extra weight is punishing on your wrist/arms. Its not usual to machine fun nails in like in your tests, so I don't find the Paslode wanting in that regard. You've just got to keep the thing clean. Cheers from the UK.

[@OZToolTalk]

yep I can absolutely see this position. I thought in retrospect that we probably weighted too heavily towards speed...

[@yewenjin6532]

You need a hammer with Pasload. 😂

[@petyt8]

Excellent and thorough review as always guy’s! You should give the paslode im360ci a bash! Probably still not the best but I won’t change it for anything. A friend I work with went through two default framers in 8 months and went back to paslode but is now using that hikoki which is a nice tool but by hell is that belt hook annoying

[@OZToolTalk]

Interesting thoughts

[@Aladinscave]

Dewalt is crap went through 2 in 6 months

[@cpt.hindsight]

Great review! Thanks for also mention the noise level on your tools, thats the first thing I notice when buying tools. Gotta keep the noise down with tinnitus and sensitive to noises. Everyone should use earprotection, ask anyone with tinnitus.

[@OZToolTalk]

agreed!

[@rickyjackson4633]

Wish I'd have watched this a few years ago I got the dewalt and have recently moved to Milwaukee and its night and day the Milwaukee is absolutely brilliant I only wish I'd gone milwaukee the first time

[@davek8386]

Best damn tool reviews on the net! Well done boys bloody top work 🤘 really appreciate it. I'm getting a Hikoki in NZ this weekend.

[@OZToolTalk]

Thanks Dave!

[@kurt9055]

No bump fire on NZ models

[@davek8386]

@@kurt9055 yeah I'm fine with that. It would be nice to have but I never have to nail that fast anyways 😂

[@novosib9017]

@@kurt9055 They made the decision for you, they dont want you to shoot your "Bubble buddy" ....what a kindergarten lol

[@davek8386]

Ok boys I lied 😂 just walked out of the tool shop with the Milwaukee

[@dragan3290]

The power of these guns are better than in the early 90s. Paslode never had that much power. Air hoses used to drive me nuts. I just bought dewalt framing gun and finishing! If I have to I can do a fit out with no noisy compressor! Love these vids!!!🙂🙂🙂👍

[@OZToolTalk]

cheers mate

[@tyler5734]

Hikoki rafter hook can just be changed to the finishing nailer rafter/tool belt hook changes the gun alot in feel

[@OZToolTalk]

agreed, that's what we did.

[@starlsdd6278]

Some of these guns can be finished?? That would be a godsend for me. I'm a woman that wants to finish my house correctly like a work of art. I even bought a nice router and table and bought $50 more a special bits. Feeling the Box because I have to learn quite a bit. I really appreciate all of your expert opinions I've bought a lot of Sears Craftsman products before. They do stand by their products not sure I'm sure can power tools. I would like to build things other than finish my home to make money at home. Like dog houses with special needs. I would like to take Consignments from people by looking at their home and their lifestyle with their dogs or whatever kind of pet they have.

[@hendrixcrossan9104]

I'm doing my apprenticeship for a framing company. We build the frames lying down and stand them when finished framing. We use Milwaukee, paslodes and air compressor. Id say the milwauke is the fastest building frames due to its rapid fire. The air compressor can be just as fast if not faster but you have to pull the trigger each nail. Just have to be trigger happy. But for standing and nailing frames together prefer paslode as its so light and great at skewing nails. Prefer paslode for everything other than building frames due to its size and weight.

[@OZToolTalk]

absolutely understand that sentiment! thanks for your thoughts!

[@MrJimmyXu]

I use Hikoki and I loved it, maybe Milwaukee a little better, but the price of it in New Zealand very expensive.

[@OZToolTalk]

Enjoy !

[@customoutdoors8376]

I'm the same, use hikoki in New Zealand and have done for just over a year now

[@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL]

The Milwaukee and Hikoki are the same price at the toolshed at the moment.

[@Zodfsxx]

Excellent review guys. Got my Milwaukee here in UK paid £500 body only.. absolutely love it, went from Paslode, yes a bit heavyer but it's well worth it! for me is much better balanced than Paslode, no more regular maintenance no more gas canister..

[@OZToolTalk]

Nice

[@mymate18]

hows it holding up want to get one but heard they break?

[@Zodfsxx]

@@mymate18 it's been excellent mate no missed fire or single jam I've done countless partition walls with it, using 90mm ring shank nails I find it strange that I have an extended magazine on it and it feels lighter and balanced, also using 2 amp battery. it's alot heavier than Paslode, but so powerful.. I have 2 Chippys working with me and they love using the gun! especially outside on cold days, I also have the new 18 gauge model absolutely beautiful as well. If you do get one I do recommend you to get extended magazine as well, well worth it!

[@CharlySwitzy]

Love the Hikoki, have one and don't mind the weight. My only wish is that the tip was a little more aggressive, like the paslodes. The same can be said for the Milwaukee, would benefit from an agressive tip. I wonder if it can be purchased as an aftermarket/upgrade part?

[@OZToolTalk]

Don't think so, I wonder if they could be work a bit?

[@joes2318]

Totally agree. Skew nailing with those small tips is a bit annoying.

[@CapitanGnar]

I literally sharpened up the tip of my hikoki framer during my lunch on Wednesday and it is MUCH better now. Skewing nails has never been easier.

[@iCRSMMO]

Please do this with the same guns but the finishing versions :D

[@christopherlee622]

Just don't get the paslode cordless finishing nailer the electronics are poorly designed and it breaks often, their framer and pneumatic tools are good

[@garethheathcote4988]

@@christopherlee622 the problem we have with the paslodes here in the UK are that they refuse to fire when it's cold as the gas doesn't like it. I recently bought the Milwaukee, I could have got the hikoki twin kit for only a little more money but I liked the look of the Milwaukee.

[@christopherlee622]

@@garethheathcote4988 yeah we run into that here in Alberta Canada as well, and the milwaukee as well as the hikoki both do a good job of dealing with this. I sell three of these guns at my job and get reviews back from direct and continuous use in the field. my comment on the finish nailer was more from a service perspective, where the design does cause the gun to break more often. the hikoki is the first to really unseat the paslode in regular use though even with the problems in the cold

[@xavi9565]

New to the channel but this is awesome production, very informative, I'm yet to own my first nail gun and was leaning on the paslode just because seems like everyones got one and has to be for a reason, but now I'm considering more the Milwaukee, thanks guys

[@OZToolTalk]

thanks xavi, glad to have another fan :D hope you've sub'd!

[@JimTom.]

I have the Hikoki, very well built great power, but its very difficult skewing nails in nogs and studs, sometimes you cant get the angle steep enough, plus the weight and bulkiness of it is a huge pain. Every now and then i get an episode of constant misfires which aggravates the shit out of me as it can be all day, ive thrown it off the ladder several times now. The Paslode is the perfect weight, size and shape, if they release one exactly like it with battery only, it would be PERFECT

[@OZToolTalk]

thanks for the feedback Jimmy

[@douglasashby4349]

Yes agree fully

[@jimcraiggeezer]

I had the paslode for over 20 years.. Same gun.. Serviced it regularly myself.. Finally shit itself a couple of years ago and I bought the Hitachi.. Loved the paslode but compared to the Hitachi its not as good.. The Hitachi for me is a great tool... Apart from the rafter hook.. Cheers.

[@FixthisCD]

you can order the hook that is on the trim gun (smaller hook)

[@zackfishle1009]

20 years is a damn good run for a cordless tool. Thanks for sharing.

[@whitacrebespoke]

I had exactly the same issues with my paslodes. The were great for 5 years then issues crept in I brought a hitachi wouldn’t go back to any gas gun now

[@zaneh6224]

Milwalkee also has an optional extended capacity magazine, it holds 93 nails, Hikoki has 6 year warranty Milwaukee 3 years, Hikoki comes with better higher capacity batteries, they also have redemptions on at the moment to get free batteries etc, Milwaukee don't, I am considering to Hikoki over the Milwaukee as guys I know have them and love em.

[@OZToolTalk]

yep all that info was presented in the video :) (except the redemptions as that is locally specific)

[@HotForgeChaos]

Kind of glad I went with the Wilfuckyee nailer now. We don't get them as kits in NZ (or at least not that I know of) but I just got the skin on sale for $750 retail. I already have a pair of 5 amp batteries so that's no issue for me. I was looking at older second hand Paslodes but again thank christ I didn't get one. I'm not a chippie by any stretch of the imagination, but I do the odd construction project here and there so this looks like it'll do the job just fine.

[@OZToolTalk]

nice Reflex.

[@mattymanderson9453]

If all 4 were used equally for a year and the same tests were done then, do you think the results would the same? I guess durability could be a big factor for people looking to buy.

[@OZToolTalk]

that's the million dollar question. unfortunately we can't answer it :/

[@wadegambetta7846]

It all depends on the gun I have a paslode and love it wouldn’t change from paslode but one of the bloke I work with had issues with his so bought a Hikoki has had it about 2 months and it’s shit it self already and another bloke loves hikoki has all there cordless stuff and just bought a hikoki cordless dropsaw and he said he wouldn’t get the nailer

[@benjaminromshak2921]

I’ve been running the Hikoki Frammer for almost a year..zero issues and the thing gets used daily

[@feellikemusic1725]

Don't buy a DeWalt one if you want to talk more with the DeWalt customer service than with your wife....

[@dangeddes855]

The Hikoki will fuck up after 6 months in the UK 4 guys bought the gun within 6 months of each other all different models all have the same problem of misfiring. The spring which pushes the nails up after a shot is just not strong enough this means you have to push the nails up after every shot. Consistent problem throughout different models. I wouldn't recommend the Hikoki to anyone

[@TheCartoons4you]

Just got a brand new Paslode for $329.00 at Home Depot. Just a FYI. Gas was like $14.00 for 2 cans which lasts roughly 2k nails. Love it :)

[@OZToolTalk]

being Australian, we of course give ozzie prices :D

[@TheCartoons4you]

@@OZToolTalk I am more or less helping the Americans out :) Sorry mate.

[@fr8train539]

I've had 2 Dewalt framers previous generation and neither have lasted very long before only shooting nails in halfway. Hopefully the gen 3 lasts. But ill stick with the Milwaukee

[@OZToolTalk]

hope you have better luck going forward now

[@fr8train539]

@@OZToolTalk keep me updated how yours holds up. Hopefully its keeps on pounding em in

[@cameronscott4392]

Hey guys , you might of missed pointing out that the Paslode shoots 9,000 shots per charge, and is the only framer on the market that shoots 50 and 65mm dekfast and cladfast nails and from a maintenance view, I maintain my gun over a beer (very simple) I have owned Pazzzys for 25 years and wouldn’t change as all these tools are not tried and tested over a long period

[@OZToolTalk]

but battery charge yes, but not even close to that for the fuel cell. you have two power sources to manage, which is a slight negative to the Paslode. That's an interesting point about the dekfast and cladfast products (both Paslode proprietary). Are there similar products that will work in the battery nailers?

[@cameronscott4392]

The nails mentioned only suit Paslode as they are an impulse product and come supplied with gas fuel cells , I haven’t seen any other brands with this product, but the way my current Paslode framer has fired 1.3 million shots, cheers

[@lena19191]

Put the Max gas framer in the mix too ...one of my favourite gas gun due to its longer nose , happy to loan mine

[@mikeott6756]

Too late sorry, shes all done and wrapped, i have heard god things about the max though, we sold them years ago at Mitre10

[@jamestutt2678]

@@mikeott6756 how do i find you on instagram mike

[@NRK1988]

Built the same as pasload just a different battery same as the Makita framer

[@wayneneale1129]

Parslow are the best nail guns handsdown they wear well they durable i’m not too sure where you had the depth gauge set on the Parslow but I’ve never had that problem before as much as you guys did cheers

[@OZToolTalk]

we had the depth gauge on full power for both paslode guns we tested. i think our testing was harder on the guns because there would usually be more breaks between firing into HW on most sites. [Dwain]

[@MrBigbobsbeans]

My boss had a Paslode and I’ve got the Hitachi, in Nz timber the paslode leaves 10mm proud, Hitachi drives it flush. He’s got the hitchi now, no more messing with gas, the smell and the noise.

[@OneIdeaTooMany]

Love the hikoki framing and finishing guns. I use them with a battery adaptor so I can use my Makita batteries since I don't use them often enough to warrant a hikoki charging station and batteries, but I'm also quite lazy.

[@unicopropertygroup5045]

would you mind sending me to the right direction in finding the same adapter please?

[@georgerobinson9110]

Can you please send me the link to get the adapter please?

[@saildulcinea]

As a plumber I agree with your comment at the end of the video. I had a paslode and as used it in infrequently the gas had either leaked or was off and the thing never worked properly. Bought a DeWalt nailer and never looked back, several thousand nails through it and never missed a beat. And you don't go freaking deaf with it either, damn paslode are LOUD! I hate sites where the builder is using a paslode.

[@OZToolTalk]

yep i feel ya on this...

[@shifty277]

It's without doubt the battery mailers are the future they just need to carry on the engineering and research to bring the weight of all the components down. Right now there could be quite a few framers around the world that are not keen on the weight of the new battery nailers and the gas or air nailers they are happy with for the majority of the time Great comparison and video love the overlays you do where you have the video in the corner of you guys phenomenal comparison as always

[@OZToolTalk]

thanks heaps Ryan! We agree totally :D

[@sonofajewishcarpenter9041]

i have a couple of of delwalt guns the gen 3 is a great gun but the rafter hook kills me on it i don’t know why they changed it from the gen 1,2 it has fallen off my nail bag when i’ve been on the roof twice now surprisly the gun still works no problem. but my favourite gun i own would be my gen 1 that has a gen 3 motor in it! gave up on paslodes a few years ago and haven’t looked back i save $150 on nails a week and less missfiring

[@OZToolTalk]

Wow interesting comment! $150 a week!!! [Dwain]

[@harrykeeling7125]

I keep 2 guns in my Ute.. paslode and hikoki, paslode for pine and hikoki for when I’m working with hardwood. Never have any issues

[@OZToolTalk]

nice Harry

[@davidkelly2660]

I've had the paslode since it came to Ireland in 1998 always a good fun , but I've always had issues over price of nails and constant servicing and I've been thinking of going battery . You've just made up my mind . All the rest of my gear is Milwaukee so I can just buy bare tool and case . BOOM ! save a fortune on nails alone , thanks

[@OZToolTalk]

Thanks for the feedback David. I hope it serves you very well!

[@Christoph1888]

The one Ive been hanging out for! Pity I've already bought one.

[@trulyhappy8855]

Just found the channel. Great comps, great reviews and I really like the rating system used. Looking forward to building up my tool collection using useful info from you gents

[@OZToolTalk]

thanks pal! love your support :D

[@jamesbailand4311]

I've ran Paslode, and now run the Hikoki. There is no weight issue as far as I am concerned. The only issue it's got is the positioning of the controls and the ridiculously shite belt/rafter hook. Great round up as always fellas. 🤙

[@OZToolTalk]

Cheers James

[@user-ve9cs7ee6x]

I've had the hikoki framer for a couple of years now. Great power & shoots quickly, but anybody who owns one of these framers and uses them regularly will tell you 2 things: 1. The hook is annoying as anything. 2. It misfires. The hikokis have a tendency to misfire if you use any nails aside from paslode nails in them. Furthermore they have feeding issues which prevent smooth operation. I'm considering buying a paslode next.

[@OZToolTalk]

thanks for the feedback T7 :D

[@DoesntHurtYet]

Glad you mentioned the weight. The milwaukee is the heaviest of these guns by far, it's very noticeably heavier. Even with the 3 amp batteries that come in kits

[@OZToolTalk]

well unfortunately the 3Ah batts in the kit or basically the same weight as a 4/5/6Ah battery. to reduce the weight you need a slim battery.

[@DoesntHurtYet]

@@OZToolTalk good point, after looking it up it's about an 80 gram drop for the 3amp high output vs a 30gram increase to the 5amp original battery so i suppose it's less relevant than i implied. Overestimated the weight of the lith-ion cells

[@joshuaware3304]

Oh by farrrrrr yeah cuz a few ounces must feel like poundsssss. Go lift some weights hater

[@TheNoodfood]

Loved my dewalt! Last about 5 years, new driver last year spent $300. Started playing up, not the spring kit, decided to get a milwaukee. At $529 in Australia, the dewalt is still a really good buy

[@bencannizzaro94]

I'm a technician at a tool retailer in Melbourne Best guns in my opinion is 1. Paslode- light easy to work on, easy diagnosis and overall the best framing gun. 2. Dewalt- all mechanical and a simple design thats reliable. ( shoots a little slow ) 3. Hikoki- heavy, powerful, but I see these the most for failure and warranty returns, full of electronics and can be hard to diagnose. Milwaukee is a new unit, have not delt with them as much, but I do think it will overtake hikoki in the coming months.

[@OZToolTalk]

Love the feedback ben!!

[@lamdog24]

Any update since you made this comment, Ben?

[@zaneh6224]

I have two Paslode framers, one gets used daily one gets used every 2-6 months, I take it off the shelf, and it fires straight away, no problem with the gas, sometimes the battery may need a charge but that's normal for any battery powered tool

[@OZToolTalk]

cheers Zane :D

[@christopherlee622]

This is a really good review, it should be mentioned that no manufacturer designs these as primary guns so if you use them that way service requirements do go up a bit

[@ashmayer2916]

Paslode are designed as primary guns,Paslode has shot counters that top out at 1.6million shots but the guns keep going regardless-not one of the other brands can make that statement.

[@christopherlee622]

@@ashmayer2916 I would believe that, they get used that way for sure. I was just lumping them in with the design focus of the other guns, and must admit I haven't looked into the paslode design focus for myself. I have heard it from every other company rep though that their gun is meant as a backup

[@MikeS92]

Great video guys just ordered a milwaukee to replace my broken paslode

[@OZToolTalk]

hope you like it!

[@pauljackson5281]

Well presented and genuine. Really good. Following you guys. I have a paslode. It drives me crazy with missfires. Going to have a look at a new desalt at that price

[@OZToolTalk]

Thanks for the support Paul. Nice one :D

[@HenningJohansen]

Excellent review, however, I think I would have put a bit more emphasis on the fact that the Milwaukee can 'optionally' hold twice as many nails as the others.

[@OZToolTalk]

Did we mention it at all? I can't remember. I don't think it would have played strongly into scoring, but it's important for some people.

[@alessiomarin1218]

I have only ever used Paslode and Hikoki when doing work experience with carpenters. I'm attracted to the battery guns, particularly the Milwaukee one simply because it's narrower around the body than the Hikoki or indeed the Paslode, and I've been in situations before where the clunkiness and general size of the gun presents clearance problems. That being said, I've also had to skew nails at times and found it harder to do with battery guns than with Paslode ones due to how they're designed. The Milwaukee is a lot cheaper without even considering the cost of fuel cells, and Milwaukee is a platform I'd use for more specific tools such as impact wrenches or SDS drills. It's a pity Makita, one of the more commonly used tool brands in carpentry, don't make very many good nailers if any at all. Not shitting on Makita, but their speciality is just not in nail guns. It's more in saws, planers, impact drivers, drills, etc...

[@scotttrujillo363]

Great video guys, thanks! I’m looking to buy and had a few questions and you have answered them. Cheers mates!!

[@OZToolTalk]

Our pleasure!

[@ITubeTooInc]

You nailed it guys!

[@OZToolTalk]

haha :P

[@ryanmurphy007]

ive had the hikokis for a while now. little on the heavy size but you get used to it. the hook is rubbish but if ur niffty its easy to modify. theres some after market ones on ebay. i could never understand why a passy gas cost $18. absolute bullshit. glad to see some good competition out there now. nice video boys.

[@OZToolTalk]

thanks Ryan

[@Cautious_Cuz]

I’ve got the dewalt, Milwaukee and the paslode. The dewalt can be fast if you use bump instead of sequential. The milwaukee is too darn heavy for awkward spots. And the paslode is very nice if you service it.... do it yourself and save a fortune..

[@zackfishle1009]

I was strongly considering the Hitachi. I use all Dewalt power tools except for my Hitachi finish nailers(I have a senco in there as well). So, Batteries wouldn't be an issue. Milwaukee is the same style as Hitachi as far as I'm concerned. I don't mind maintaining my tools/guns, so Paslode's maintenance wouldn't be a problem. Of the three styles, which do you prefer? Which would you recommend? I remodel homes and hardly frame for more than a couple of walls. I'll go through a few strips of nails per project, max. Thanks. Your opinion is important! I am buying a cordless nailer, soonish.

[@Cautious_Cuz]

Zack Fishle if you don’t mind paying $70 for a box of nails and don’t mind cleaning it then paslode all the way. But if you want a gun that convenient then a battery gun is top . I find myself reaching for the dewalt due to it being nice and light with a compact battery and no gas/paslode battery to wrangle. Best of both worlds. Hope this helps

[@OZToolTalk]

thanks :D

[@badsmell4009]

I’m a dewalt fan and I’m on my third nail gun seriously thinking about getting the hikoki

[@nfi2nfi2]

After two years owning hikoki/Hitachi can say still the best nail gun out there.

[@badsmell4009]

@@nfi2nfi2 just got it today’s 👍👍

[@TheMingilator]

I got the dewalt in the UK as a bare unit with 10% off from screwfix (bought a drill with a battery and got 10% off any bare tool) for £225, its at least as good as my pneumatic with a full compressor tank and better when the tank is low, as for weight, the dewalt wins hands down when you consider trailing a hose behind the gun, doesnt have the same nail capacity but no issue there, yeah the ramp up is a pain, I cant see why they couldn't have a mode where the flywheel was always run up but still needed the tip seated and a trigger pull to fire, one other thing, bumpfire is as agood as uselss with 90mm nails, always leaves the head sticking out, 50mm and 75mm, no problem!

[@velociraptor5962]

I feel like this is where Total Tools got the sound effects for their radio add. haha

[@OZToolTalk]

haha we wish *royalties!

[@leonzelvys1286]

Paslode stands up after a drop and best ergonomically, best for up on a roof or nailing above your head. Dewalt second place for ergonomics and nailing above head height. I’d only buy hikoki or Milwaukee if I was doing formwork or small renovations. Dewalt beats paslode for my use as I do a lot of framing and gas adds up. Pneumatic has yet to be replace for stick build

[@OZToolTalk]

Thanks for your thoughts Leon

[@leonzelvys1286]

Oz Tool Talk love your videos, keep up the good work

[@AndrewBrowner]

just checked milwuakee with battery (5.0) and charger is 649$ at homedepot in canada and without a doubt could be found a tad cheaper but homedepot is a good baseline in north america i think the two 3.0s would suffice for running the nailer if you didnt have many or any other m18 tools by the time you shoot through one 3.0 the other would be charged only what a 40min charge time on basic charger for a 3.0

[@matthewevans7382]

Advice needed please. Love the channel, I love DIY and I’m in the middle of renovating a property. I need to erect feather board fencing around the perimeter of the garden. I currently have 18 & 16 gauge nailers. I’m guessing these are too lightweight to attach the boards. What nailer type / nail length would you recommend? Thanks in advance

[@Mueller_projects]

I've been running a Paslode for the last 12 years. Getting a bit sick of the maintenance costs. I've been trying a demo of the Milwaukee framer, I'm very impressed with the speed and power. I'm going to be buying a Milwaukee. I have tried the hikoki and it feels unbalanced for me. I've recently got the Milwaukee 16G nailer after I got fed up with Paslode.

[@evictioncarpentry2628]

Maintenance costs? I've spent $9 on mine replacing the slide button lol. Take it apart yourself and they cost nothing (not including fuel cells) and run forever

[@joes2318]

cpt awesome time is money. Having to clean the nail gun takes time, plus you have to buy the paslode spray cleaner.

[@oo0Spyder0oo]

@@evictioncarpentry2628 yeah and the so called 'lifetime service free' is a myth. Some reviewers have already had leakdowns on the hikoki and they will lose their gas over time, like anything that has seals that wear/escape gas. Yet to find what the service costs are for one, no one's telling. Paslode and Dewalt, do it yourself.

[@Mueller_projects]

Maintenance costs, buying paslode cleaner etc. Give it a clean every 2 months. Every 2nd year it had a full service that was about $280

[@johnwoodrum7778]

I like the Milwaukee, but i don't like the weight. The Dewalt i like but i hate the fan that makes to much noise before each shot. I have had and used several Paslodes, they are very temperamental guns, always something not right with them, but if they are on they are great. Good comparison though, very informative, i'm wanting to buy the Milwaukee but the weight has got me second guessing buying one.

[@OZToolTalk]

thanks for the feedback John. It's not as easy decision huh?!

[@chaseme9860]

I've used my Paslode for over 20 years.

[@mattskelton992]

Hey guys it would be epic if you could do a new comparison now that there are more brands and new models out!

[@OZToolTalk]

I'm afraid we aren't really active on youtube anymore. BUT i can tell you that the Metabo is basically a copy of the Hikoki. And we have reviewed the AEG/Rigid separately :D

[@johnlandis5889]

Thanks for the review guys!!!

[@OZToolTalk]

Our pleasure!

[@andrewmiller9207]

Never put your hand in front of the nailgun when building a knee wall, as in the vid...the safety can depress at the edge of the timber with the nail shooting along the edge. This is how I shot a 12d through my hand.

[@OZToolTalk]

cheers

[@ITubeTooInc]

Thanks for the review. So what's the difference between the gen 1, 2, and 3 of the Dewalt DCN692? And how do you tell the difference between the different generations in the store/online if they are all named the same?

[@jrsuk1170]

It says type 3 on the body. Only the type 3 is any good.

[@mickt4882]

Gen 3 has the speed and feed switch on the base of the gun below the handgrip. Gen 2 has the switch’s on side up top above the hand grip. Also the price, gen 3 presently only one selling for 529 as a kit.

[@zackfishle1009]

@@jrsuk1170 Dewalt will upgrade the item without changing the model number, just the 'type'

[@justjacked8189]

Over here in Canada our prices are way closer. The Dewalt kit is $499 The Metabo kit is $579 Milwaukee kit is $678 Paslode kit is $629 I have used the Dewalts for years now. The batteries dont like the cold and are ridiculously priced. I have also used Paslode and would never buy one unless they go gasless with better batteries. I have never used the Metabo but I do like there air tools alot. The Milwaukee for me is the best gun and the batteries are better priced and can handle the cold way better.

[@joepower1980]

I had 2 Dewalt guns both shit themselves. Bought the hikoki gun, have it a year now and it's by far a better gun. The paslode are way lighter but more trouble, shoud be banned on sound alone.

[@OZToolTalk]

interesting feedback!

[@zackfishle1009]

Nice work as usual. Keep it up! Thsnks for the video at 26 minutes of the dewalt working, it looks like it works fun. HOLY SHIT, AU PRICES ARE "apeshitbananas." I wonder if the Paslode needs some time to clear the chamber? I wonder if the consistency would improve with a brief resting period after a dozen nails or so? I'd be shocked if the green and red guns weren't made in the same factory. HOLY SHIT, AU PRICES ARE "apeshitbananas." How much is a loaf of bread, a gallon of gas(litre of gas, I can convert), and a gallon of milke? Thanks.

[@OZToolTalk]

Thanks Zack. The guns are definitely not made by the same people! The paslode certainly needs a good break sometimes, and we gave it the breaks we thought were reasonable. For instance on the 90mm nails into hardwood, after one nail sat up proud, we gave a good 10 second break between each after that. Helps a little. In terms of our prices, yes we pay a little more. but you have to compare our average Australian wage as well as our tool pricing before being too horrified. [Dwain]

[@cameroncrane3770]

I bought the Hitachi a while ago before Milwaukee talked about releasing theirs. But now I think I'll buy one of those too since I'm more on their battery platform and I want the longer magazine.

[@adamspiller4842]

I would buy the Milwaukee, I have a paslode at the moment and the gas is a pain, I’ve used the Hikoki and it’s much faster than the paslode. but quite heavy.

[@fredericksullivan7925]

I used a friend's makita framing nailer it misfired a lot was difficult to remove the battery and heavy. My paslode was much better. I like that dewalt though.

[@keirwilliamson1274]

Just bought the hikoki 425 quid in UK came with 3 x 18A36 MV Battery Packs and case

[@eliaslouigeorgy4160]

I've used Hitachi for last year. It works great.. every now and then it misses a nail between clips of nails. Must be the type of nails or glue. Only does it between clips

[@OZToolTalk]

hmm that's weird. does it happen with different brands of nails?

[@Tom-mu2nr]

I had the same problem and when it does it I just spray the clip with WD 40 and it fixes it I think dust gets in and slows the feed speed

[@OZToolTalk]

I find the bradder nail clip gets gunmy but havnt had it happen with the framer. Ive sprayed it with graphite spray and will see how it goes 👍🏼 (mike)

[@nfi2nfi2]

Stop buying Paslode nails 🤣

[@michaeldahm214]

Great review. Very real world tests and comparisons

[@OZToolTalk]

thanks Michael!

[@randomstuffwithjoe]

I'm in the market for my first framing nailer. I was leaning toward the Paslode, but I'm rethinking it for the Milwaukee. My only concern with the M.. is the weight. 12 pounds seems like a lot.

[@OZToolTalk]

yep, it's a heavy nailer for sure!

[@randomstuffwithjoe]

@@OZToolTalk If you were in the market for your first nailer.. would you go with the Paslode or the Milwaukee? We're having a log home built and when its done, I plan to stick build the garage myself. I built a 12x16 shed with a loft a few years ago with a hammer and it was exhausting.. so I am definitely getting a nail gun for a larger garage build.

[@philthewhip6786]

@@randomstuffwithjoe i say go for milwaukee if you already have milwaukee tool since youll already have some batteries, but if its your first tool go for a pasload its super realiable, i legit dropped mine from 3 floors and it is still working fine 😆 almost 3 years of use now!

[@nathanniclair7246]

Landscaper who doesn’t use the gun everyday, mainly for decking and pergolas, really tossing up between the Milwaukee and the paslode what do you think !!

[@OZToolTalk]

I think for people who aren't stick framing everyday, the cordless guns make SO much sense. I'm in the same boat as you (Dwain)

[@bnwww]

FYI the $529 DeWalt deal is on again in Australia at the usual retailers.

[@OZToolTalk]

indeed! I'm so tempted to buy a second one!

[@thelaxong]

I bought one today to start on my deck diy project. 520A$ from SydneyTools in Sunshine, Vic. Didn’t really bargain hard, only asked for a discount. Thanks for the review.

[@OZToolTalk]

Xuan Truong Nice one !!!! Hope you enjoy !🔥💪🏼 (mike)

[@RedRogerRover]

don't know where id be without you boys.

[@OZToolTalk]

Thanks red!

[@JaySellers]

Great review. By the way, Paslode just said "hold my beer" and dropped the price of their full gun kit below that of any other brand's bare tool only cost. As a hobbiest simply working on my own house projects and not owning any batteries of the brands you reviewed, the Paslode is still quite attractive.

[@OZToolTalk]

WOW! that's great news for users!

[@Patrick-857]

People complain about Paslodes, but they last at least a decade of day in day out thrashing, the nails come with gas, often times you can't even get any other brand nails where I live, parts are easily available, and most importantly, you can service it yourself. If your Paslode needs servicing, you can be back in business within a few minutes, and if you want it done by a professional, it can be done locally and back probably same day. If one of these battery guns packs up you are sending it away and are out of action for weeks. The Dewalt is particularly bad, because once that flywheel mechanism packs up, nobody can fix it. They are insanely complex inside. These ones with sealed gas pistons are better, but they eventually get weak and need re gassing or replacing. That's not quick or cheap. I would love to have a Milwaukee, don't get me wrong, so powerful and convenient, but a Paslode is an investment. You just can't go wrong with their reliability and durability. Also they are so much lighter, which matters when you have that thing hanging off your belt or above your head all day. My Dewalt 16 gauge nailer just packed up and I already had the Framemaster so I grabbed a Paslode. Another great thing about Paslodes is that they always come with two batteries and a charger for a similar price to the tool only with the other guns. I have Dewalt and Makita batteries, and Makita still have no cordless framer, and can't make a finish nailer that's actually good, much as I love their tools, and honestly the Dewalt framer sucks. Dewalt bradders are pretty good, but mine lasted 5 years and crapped itself. I'm just not keen on investing in a third battery system when Paslode is so much more value for money to get into. If you are already on the Milwaukee or Hikoki platforms, their guns are much more attractive, but man they are heavy. Aiso the Hikoki doesn't like the cheap nails that you get without gas, and runs best on Paslode nails, which are only sold without gas in big stores, so the one at work just causes piles of unused gas canisters, while ironically the Paslodes eat any nails you feed them.

[@hoanidecleene6513]

@@Patrick-857 there new one they release is faulty as. it worked good for the first couple months then now when you press it. It doesn’t fire it happen to 3 nail guns because my boss has one and his brother and the work one we have a old one is it’s been going hard for ages and is better then the new ones

[@citizenkay]

They had to lower the price because they're simply not at the races. Being hoseless was really the only advantage they ever held. They might suffice for a DIYer or old guy wirking on his own, but when a framing crew is in a flow state, Paslode will only slow things down with its power loading time,clunky ergonomics, need for cleaning and changing fuel cells. They also give out a shitty smell and probably emit toxic gases like Carbon monoxide.

[@JaySellers]

@@citizenkay no doubt. Since I made that comment, I've moved on to Milwaukee. I have the Paslode on eBay and can't sell it without practically giving it away.

[@bnwww]

The DeWalt pricing has to be aimed at bringing new people into the battery system. I'm M18 - with minor sidelines in Hilti and Ryobi - and this pricing would work to get me into the DeWalt system. I wouldn't stop using my Milwaukee gear, but I would have more options and - most important to DeWalt - I would become a repeat customer. For comparison, the DeWalt kit price is $230 cheaper than the Milwaukee bare tool! Though the spring replacement might bug me eventually.

[@OZToolTalk]

Yep easy to see the appeal isn't it?!

[@zackfishle1009]

I remodel Kitchens and Bathrooms. Dewalt works great for me! I sold my Milwaukee tools because they were wearing out and they are owned by China.

[@benrichards1]

I mainly use milwaukee. The price for their new framing nailer (bare tool) was £100 more then the hikoki, and the hikoki comes with a box, charger and 2 batteries (5ah). Milwaukee, sort your pricing out.

[@OZToolTalk]

fair question

[@mr.wizeguy8995]

It's not expensive in USA whole kit cost around 350 US dollar. So dunno who is ripping people here in Europe.

[@borisjohnson6809]

Hikoki wins it for me. Had mine for a year and love it. Great gun.

[@OZToolTalk]

nice!

[@bigglilwayne7050]

Way too heavy for me, the Paslode is way lighter

[@jakestanton1350]

My paslode is the older version of that one with the long battery and mine sinks 90mm nails all day long

[@OZToolTalk]

Into KD F17 hardwood? We found that it might do a few, but if you asked it to sink more than that in the space of a few minutes, it couldn't. We also got a second unit to make sure it behaved the same (which it did). [Dwain]

[@adenvanlangenberg2821]

Would love you to review the im90ci to see how it compares

[@OZToolTalk]

sorry unlikely.

[@mr.wizeguy8995]

I can say it's more powerful than IM 350 and also bit heavier, works much better on cold temperatures.

[@bhangraboyin]

Nothing beats HiKoki

[@JanvanDeBoerka]

Walt

[@LensCapJB]

Thx lads. Think you guys really under stated how annoying the ramp up is. Also the Milwaukee sounds way too heavy.

[@Thishandleisavailabl.e]

I’m a dewalt user always have been but everyone I know with a paslode talks about it as if it’s made of solid gold I’ll tell you what after watching this I think I’ll stick to what I’ve got I might even show it to them next time they slag off me tools haha

[@marccadec6978]

I gave up on the dewalt, it just didn't have the power, i am sticking with my paslode.

[@OZToolTalk]

Fair enough

[@rotaxrider]

Marc Cadec Type/Gen 3 ?

[@MrBostonBilly]

Like the review I have the Milwaukee but hate the nitrogen cartridge drives me crazy it runs out always at bad times so I'm picking up the Dewalt I can deal with the noise if I don't need to deal with cartridges

[@dchh2872]

As a DIY I have a non branded gas nailer from the Toolshed in NZ. it hasn't been that great, purchased to build a fence, hated the gas so was looking at the Dewalt, (dare I say it in this fourm I have the Ryobi Crown stapler and finish nailers- and yes builders around home have used them rather than drag out there compressor for small jobs) so I started to do research and came across a couple of videos with the Milwaukee, and quickly changed direct, sure its more expensive, but I think I'll go down the Milwaukee track, my only concern is the 3ah batteries in the kit.