P Basses Vs. J Basses. Which Is Best For You And Why. | EP27 | The SBL Podcast

162 | EP27 | P Basses Vs. J Basses. Which Is Best For You And Why. With Scott & Ian
So, you’re wondering what the differences between a Fender Jazz and a Fender Precision really boil down to, right? They might have come off the same drawing board, but if you think they sound the same, you're wrong. They probably feel the same to play? Wrong again. In today’s episode Scott and Ian try to settle a debate that’s raged on for decades.
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[@ken_wilkens]

You guys are having WAY too much fun! My favorites!

[@admarhermans1]

For me: I love both! But, when I get to choose: P.

[@georgecookonbass]

Anyone else love a hybrid? P pickups and jazz neck for me ALL DAY

[@mcblahflooper94]

I had a Fender P bass deluxe special that I gigged with for years. Maybe its just because I couldnt stand the pickguard (gold on white and maple... eugh) but I could NOT get into it. The sound worked for my band (sort of a modern rock foo fighters thing) and it sounded fine in the mix and solo'd. I just never felt at home on it. A lot of PJ basses are very 'sporty' if you know what I mean, and I think that kinda killed the vibe for me (that and the active PU's)

[@oldasrocks9121]

Just put one together in December w/a Squier CV 60s and a MIM rosewood fingerboard Standard Jazz neck, lefty reversed, Fender PV '63 pickup, & Thomastiks. It's lovely.

[@georgecookonbass]

@@mcblahflooper94 Man I had a glam looking active PJ for about 5 seconds, it was instant dislike for me. I know what you mean about the 'sporty' thing which is kind of the opposite of the 'pickup truck' vibe of a regular precision. Weirdly I've just got my first JJ configuration and everything about it feels completely perfect, especially in the mix which took me off guard

[@georgecookonbass]

@@oldasrocks9121 God I love old school fender pickups with thomastiks, that sounds amazing!

[@Deatg-ek8rf]

The hybrids are rubbish.

[@unclerog]

Howdy from Billings Montana...Vanilla Fudge...When Tim Bogert would do his big bass solo it was always "TIM BOGERT ON THE FENDER BASS"

[@peter_king]

My first bass was a Washburn Status (Stay-tuss :). Red and Black. SOLID! Just getting back into playing and an SBL member. Loving the chat, guys

[@KitBasher1]

I love hearing the accents challenge! I hope you guys eventually cover the bass 6 and the first five string by fender, and maybe get into the early low B era basses. Also, Mono Neon, and how Ian ended up with his flannel!

[@JamesDavisakaRemguy]

Hahaha! Great comment, buddy! Not sure MonoNeon ever WEARS a flannel, however. Maybe inside out and on fire? Haha!

[@andrewpinner3181]

Thanks guys, just saw this, always fun, l was missing 'the hang out' so l delved into older stuff l hadn't seen.

[@HalbeEllgr]

Awesome chat loved it. You guys bounce off each other really well and made for a really interesting hour. I have a Fender Jag (with PJ config). I always felt it could (almost) walk both lines of the P & J. Wondered if anyone else out there had felt that too? This goes for many PJ basses. My Warwick really gets that P tone from the pick up.

[@BobbyKewley]

Another great podcast guys 🙂 Don't know if you've already done it but I'd love to see you discussing rounds v flats in a future episode

[@BenD_Bass]

Idk what it is, I love watching and listening to you guys. I just wanna hang out with you guys and laugh and pick your brains for as much bass knowledge as possible

[@honestbrute9216]

This was a phenomenal podcast..

[@handybunny]

Thanks! Always a fun debate. I got a j-bass first. I have 3 j-basses and 1 p-bass. I just love the feel of the j-neck. In fact, my p-bass is fitted with a j-neck! It's also the original single coil original style p-bass. I think I'm into single-coil! If I were a studio musician, maybe I'd be more into the traditional (new pickup) p-bass. But I'm just a live player, and jazz basses cut through better IMO.

[@idolbass]

Great vibe guys. I love a Jazz and P. They always sound amazing in the right mix. Live P Bass is hard to work. Long live the Jazz Bass

[@itieknots7]

A Passive PJ with a Jazz neck (1.5" nut). i.e G&L SB-2T or one of Fender's Custom Shop Precision Jazz basses are my favorite 4 strings at the moment.

[@The_Ricardo_Sa]

Great video! One thing though, that no one seems to discuss, is what types of music each bass fits in. So, what is best for Rock, or Punk, or Jazz or pop. In a live setting different basses will fit differently in these styles. Which type would fit in best. That will surely help many people chose better, since they are much more relative to what they are looking for to fit their style. From this video I got P basses are good for studio and Jazz basses for live. But surely this won't be for all styles? Or should I just get a crappy cheap bass of each style (that may not sound great) to try and decide what I need?

[@tscoletti431]

So, since 1980 been on a 62 P mod with JPs with a slim line 78 rosewood neck. BOOM! Passive. Does it all in one. Punchy/Chewy and Scooped/Funky and Nasal/Teen Town at the roll of a dial!

[@kevinsavo718]

Great show for us bass folk!

[@kmrumedy]

If I was to connect SBL to one bass it would be Scott's Overwater Jazz bass. That was his main bass for so long....also...in my opinion the best sounding bass (other than the Smith).

[@aaronl7669]

even scott's coffee cups are made of acoustical foam

[@Deatg-ek8rf]

The P reigns Almighty!

[@ken_wilkens]

Last time I was at "The Bass Place" here in AZ getting a setup - I was talking to the guy about SBL. He said - "Oh yeah, Scott - THE P BASS GUY?" LOL

[@BOMBPHONICS]

I never would've guessed Ian knew of Candiria, so rad

[@jodymoses156]

I’m 50 and I’ve just started playing a PBass it’s a squier classic vibe. It’s great. But I’m a Jazz bass guy since the early 2000’s. Basses have come and go. But my Geddy Lee 2007 CIJ has been the best Jazz I’ve ever played

[@bassimprovjams3772]

I’m late to this one, but Ian I think the player with the light up dots on the Warwick was probably Sam Rivers from limpbizkit at least that’s who I remember had it, I want the Lakland Daryl Jones Jazz so bad!!

[@therifflizard]

Loved this episode. I agree with Scott to a point about the "stand for something" moto but Scott, if you read this.... what would you say about Prince? Surely he's a perfect example (I'm a fan) of being a jack of all trades/master of none?

[@maartenkooymans5071]

Master of all, I'd say

[@darrelllovitt8753]

My bald bass playing brothers from other mothers haha, My first bass was a Peavy T-40, it was so heavy it was like a tree trunk with pick ups, but I thought it sounded good and I could get some different tones out of it, at the time I had no clue what a P or a J even was I just loved music and thumped the bass

[@ulis3082]

What flats are on this bass? With this green silk wrap at the headstock (10:39)? Thanks

[@HalbeEllgr]

I know Fender flats have green silk?

[@trailblazeratv6306]

Harmony Brand from SEARS

[@malcelinho]

Ep. 27??? How come KZbin never showed me that?

[@danielrose542]

Yeah, choose the 2 Jazz basses. Life is too short to play other basses.

[@ericdallairez]

What I understand from this whole conversation is that any self respecting professionnal bass player needs both instruments.

[@RobiTheophilus]

Scott legit reminds me of myself 😄

[@joninawhitecoat]

CANDIRIA!!!!!!!! What a band.

[@davidvitale9338]

You need both, and a PJ, and you need to buy parts and assemble your own, and....

[@paul_to_the_music]

Hamer?

[@johnsilver8059]

Neither. A Mustang.

[@normt6226]

Jazz basses rules...

[@Woozy.0]

Was it a hondo Ian?

[@teresaravenshaw5477]

Stuart Zender and P-Nut are and were Warwick endorsees and I believe both had LEDs all over the shop.

[@davidturkos8502]

The p j pick up combination sound is great. Their so many examples to sight however, the p j pickup combination is ugly. Now two pickups like the early buzzards ii don't mind that look but, p j look I'll pass

[@Nugmania1]

Boys, big brother weighing in, Ian your branding is solid, just going through some older SBL casts, your chameleon aspect is one your best assets, and Scott is the quiet riot, your monster solid playing and tasty licks define you and keep people coming back for more

[@dantreview4698]

Today's lesson: Scottish accents and proprietary eponyms ;-)

[@JamesDavisakaRemguy]

And yes, I could listen to you two go on for DAYS! (Daze?) I wish I could be buddies with you guys, but I guess that’s the whole point of the podcast. It’s like packaging and selling your friendship to poor friendless people like me...(sad violin music here).

[@JamesDavisakaRemguy]

😢

[@oldasrocks9121]

The thing is you can get 1 great passive Sire of each (P5 and V5 for instance, not even their entry level) for $1K total. That's 2/3s of the price of the first Fender you'd be as confident buying, but only for one or the other. B-stock Squier CVs for even less, if you can bring them up to snuff yourself. And say $150 for a handwound PBass replacement pickup for the Sire, $250 max for a handwound set for the Jazz. $14-1500 before tax. I think the question might actually be Which one first?

[@simonbowkett124]

Hondo?

[@robertp457]

In the south they don’t say “Mountain Dew Coke”. You’d be asked what you would like to drink and if you wanted a sprite you’d say coke then they would asked “what kind” and you’d say “sprite”.

[@MFitz12]

One of each. No need to even watch.

[@arthurkjr]

Neither.

[@JamesDavisakaRemguy]

Yeah, Carol Kaye used to say she played the Fender bass! Poor girl, they made the only girl switch from her jazz guitar to a Jazz bass. Totally made her career, though. And gave us a LOT of bitchin music to listen to and play in her wake. (I hope nobody FLAMES me for my use of the word ‘bitchin’ in conjunction with a female bass player...)

[@JamesDavisakaRemguy]

You see, THIS is why I am FRIENDLESS!

[@alanwadey2848]

WW2 was happening Scott

[@alanwadey2848]

Also; my Dad was born, the two events are not connected.

[@teresaravenshaw5477]

Worst Cockney accent ever, Ian.

[@BenD_Bass]

Offender bass player lol

[@user-ve4ig6pw1s]

Fender basses SUCK. PERIOD.