P320 Flux Legion Raider at the Range

[@JeffBilkins]

When you spend all the upgrade points on the basic pistol.

[@brockgundich]

Double pack a punch the starter

[@blasthammer1806]

sometimes the starter pistol is the most op like in resident evil 8 after you upgrade it

[@rogerborg]

"Why is my pistol now in the rifle category?"

[@tsukishiro70]

Apart from the suppressor. Deus Ex: Human Revolution for the win.

[@Neptune0404]

Beat me to it XD

[@1rbdfl]

ian: throw this away it is junk ian in the spas 12 video: people just threw the hook away

[@ForgottenWeapons]

This press conference is over.

[@cadenhood]

the dichotomy of man

[@znail4675]

I am going to bet that someone picked that up and it was just a joke.

[@Johnnyharperscoutstablegmail]

😆😆😆

[@jubuttib]

@@cadenhood It's a wonder what time does to things. No-one cares about a random piece of junk included with a gun, until it becomes hard to find and suddenly people are paying thousands for them...

[@tribeval]

"not a vfg" "boy those atf agents sure would be mad if they could read"

[@robertwarner5963]

That inscription is purely to keep the lawyers at bay. Which reminds me of the days when I used to write technical/packing manuals for Rigging Innovations' parachute harness/containers. Most of the "must know" information was in the photographs, while it seemed that most of the text was to keep lawyers at bay.

[@A0130EX]

Man hollywood is gonna love these pdw pistol conversions they're gonna be in every trash action spy movie in 3-4 years

[@bip321boom]

Some fake agent is going to look very cool deploying the spring loaded stock.

[@sys3248]

Budget AR already cheaper options for movie set. In some case they don't even bother getting blanks and just put flash through cgi.

[@BTSights]

they probably gonna put this in the hand of protagonist and antagonist as a sniper rifle

[@Rehteal]

@@A0130EX Or in every videogame in 3-4 months

[@Rehteal]

@@BTSights It'd probably be in the hands of some kind of elite badguy commando squad that's way more dangerous than the other ones because they have *future guns* and caliber means absolutely nothing.

[@prdubi]

Full disclosure, Fun Jesus, I'm actually fine with Sig giving you one for review. Your presentation of it isn't like a commercial full of fluff and fancy. Its clear and concise. And that's worth the price of admission. Thanks for doing this video.

[@no1DdC]

Both videos should still be marked as sponsored though. If getting a $1,649 gun for free isn't sponsoring, then I don't know what is. It's not like they asked Ian to return it. Even if he has the best intentions of staying objective, this kind of gift does influence a person.

[@andersjjensen]

@@no1DdC The problem is that sending firearms in the mail is a hassle. Many other review items are much easier to do the "when you're done reviewing it, here's a pre-paid package label for the next reviewer" type arrangement with. That said: Plenty of computer component channels I follow get sent 5 different $1800-2200 graphics cards and have no problem ripping them a new one if they didn't do a good job.

[@znail4675]

@@no1DdC Most professional reviewers gets the products for free and while it may seem like a valuable gift so isn't it quite the same if it's your 50th gun you got at home. It's actually only when it's an actual good product that it have some value by being better then the others you already have.

[@Rehteal]

@@no1DdC Receiving a product for free then reviewing it is not paid promotion

[@MichaelArtelle]

​@@no1DdC Not all firearms are given for reviewers to keep. A lot get them on loan and then sent back to a local FFL holder to be sent to the next reviewer.

[@XaleManix]

This (and other systems like it) seems like the perfect 'car gun' for every fictional protection detail in the next 30 years. If I don't see President Harrison Ford and his secret service sidekick use a pair of these to fight off the bad guys in Air Force Two, I will be deeply disappointed.

[@mikemoore4033]

If I had one of those I’d have to call it my “Flux Capacitor”. Edit, just thought of a way better name, ‘Flux Incapacitor”.

[@fredbecker607]

Would need to suppress then.

[@randallraszick6001]

Aeon Flux.

[@jayabramson6702]

I’ve been calling it the flux capacitor since the first time I picked one up. Definitely a better choice than the MP320 kits SIG released several months ago.

[@forkthepork]

Flux Asseater. There, I said it.

[@varuug]

@@forkthepork Flux Ass Capper.

[@hypethekomodo6495]

I wish there was a stock attachment that made Ian's sound of the stock shooting out, such as "Huuah!" and "Kawammo!"

[@tylerwilliams6022]

Lightsaber sound for the win!

[@timbirch4999]

HAWK TUAH!

[@klausnielsen1537]

It's gonna be an aftermarket thing 😂

[@adamwheeler4763]

Thank you for using the word "Hypothesis" in the correct context! As a research scientist seeing many KZbinrs and screenwriters use it incorrectly is infuriating! ❤

[@lucusloc]

Another fun thing to note is that the Flux Raider can take *any* standard sized P320 slides/mags. This includes the .40 cal stuff. Now that in itself may not be all that interesting as .40 is a bit of a niche round, but if you do not care about that you might also want to note that if a gun takes a .40 it also takes a .357 Sig as a drop in barrel replacement. I am not the type of person who cares, so I built a raider in .357 Sig. Now *that* is a PDW. Plus you can still throw a 9mm slide on there if you want to practice for cheaper. .357 Sig is not exactly plinking ammo.

[@77gravity]

That on-gun spare mag stowage also allows for a VERY fast "load from empty" - have the gun unloaded, spare mag in the stowage, and then that single-button release and rapid transfer of the loaded mag into the grip. (for places that don't consider a loaded magazine stored with the gun as a "loaded" gun)

[@BabyEatingFoxes]

I like the double mag drop. If cops had these, there would be a bunch of full magazines on the street.

[@theprojectproject01]

Lying right next to the acorns, no doubt

[@DH-xw6jp]

Loot drop!

[@merpius]

I had not considered negligent police (a redundant phrase) as an explanation of PUBG, but it fits.

[@cikame]

Fastest pistol to rifle conversion i've ever seen.

[@Kremit_the_Forg]

You forget the time where when you "manufactured" a "rifle" when you shouldered your braced pistol 😂

[@cikame]

@@Kremit_the_Forg Schrodinger's stock

[@Stevarooni]

Remember that an SBR is a rifle even if you have a brace attached to it.

[@skillz7119]

Guess you have never seen an mp5... literally a single pin with no tools

[@Getpojke]

Can see this getting used a lot in future Sci-Fi movies, it just has that cool aesthetic.

[@mariokrenz520]

It's already in a "SCIFI" video game as the MP28 in Battlefield 2042. Looks a little bit different but yeah it's this thing

[@aliceakosota797]

What is a decent modern sci-fi movie anyway?

[@no1DdC]

@@aliceakosota797 Here's a very incomplete and unsorted list of almost exclusively better known sci-fi films from the last few years: Tenet, Dune, Edge of Tomorrow, They Cloned Tyrone, Upgrade, Poor Things, Looper, Everything Everywhere All at Once, District 9, Elysium, Children of Men, Looper, Blade Runner 2049, Hunter Prey, The Endless, Annihilation, Rogue One (and the accompanying TV show), Inception, Attack the Block, The World's End, Source Code, Snowpiercer (+ TV show), Her, Moon, The Man From Earth, The Platform, Gravity, Interstellar, Arrival, Wall-E, Mad Max Fury Road, Previously Saved Version, Watchmen, Deadpool, A Quiet Place, Godzilla Minus One, Boss Level, Don't Look Up, Palm Springs, Vivarium, The Martian, Coherence, Oblivion. In other words, sci-fi fans have been eating good. These aren't just decent, they are all excellent. Not all of them have scenarios where a cool gun makes sense, but plenty of them do.

[@Sabretoothsquirrel]

I thought it looked like something out of Cyberpunk 2077 already in the first video :P

[@razer666L]

@@Sabretoothsquirrel And now we just need SIG Sauer to make a modernised Beretta 93R-inspired three-round burst pistol. With the Flux Raider and a suppressor attached, it'll become the closest thing you have of an M7S SMG in real life.

[@geodkyt]

The maximum length stock really puts the gun into the "same size as a genuine SMG", which seems counterproductive. It looks slightly longer with the stock stowed than the 1990s MP5K-PDW with a side folded stock. The minimum length stock seems the most in line with the design intent of the chassis, although I wonder if reducing the vertical length to about even with the bottom of the grip would compromise its utility as a stock all that much. The medium length is probably a practical compromise. I also wonder if there is an extended slide and barrel combo that comes right to the end of the chassis. Since you can't make the gun any shorter than the frame, might as well use ALL the frame length forward and eke out an extra 50 FPS or so, if you can.

[@BenfromFlux]

Good thoughts. The 5.5 inch full size threaded barrel is flush with the end of the frame, I have various comp designs that would make the slide aesthetically flush. It’s still very small with the 1.5”, much smaller than SMGs. The 1.5” stock is the most used variant by SOF.

[@MrTrilbe]

This really does look like "a solution looking for a problem", or "a we could so we did" or more likely "how can we get someones bean counter happy", there's better SMG's, better carbines, and better PDW's for its role, it's good points are you already have a SLA with Sig and you have Sig mags and 9mm, downsides is you have a P320's range, stopping power, and penetration, and I would rather have any one of the things it lacks over all of it's good points be that stay away, stay down, or stay in cover.

[@rienezukana]

​@@MrTrilbego ahead name few PDWs in this size class. I could mention B&T's USW A1 and Glock/320 Chassis, TP9/MP9, Micro Uzi, MAC-10. Flux Raider surprisingly is one of the better option. MP5K is just too big. Also if you haven't grasp the concept of PDW, go watch Brass Facts' video about it

[@tiredsoldier]

Y'all folks comparing it to SMGs and going "So what?" are missing the point. Even at SIG prices, it's still lots of kilobucks less than the entry price for a 40+ year old SMG, not to mention finding parts when something breaks while you're converting dollars to holiness. Start thinking of it as a pistol-caliber carbine which fits in the nightstand drawer and you'll find it's legitimate raison d'être. Which would you rather have when investigating something that went bump in the night: two hands on one of these or one hand on a (pick your favorite 9mm pistol)?

[@edwardscott3262]

PDWs always suffer from the "Hey that's too cool for the losers who it was designed for." effect. They end up on the tip of the spear where people find out it's still just a slightly easier to shoot pistol. Which shouldn't be shocking but as generations of PDW design has shown. It always is.

[@colbyalmendarez6048]

As a fellow southpaw, I appreciate the commentary on the impracticality of the right handed elements

[@charlesfisher3983]

The fact that Ben has almost made GM in PCC with this thing when he's competing against purpose built AR-pattern race guns is very cool

[@Yapperinos]

I'm not sure but he might even be using the smaller 365 raider which is arguably more impressive

[@LordJuan4]

Love the brass facts shout-out at the end

[@paulhopson7603]

Praise be to the PDW! 🙏

[@joshuaschoonyan3263]

It's good to hear/see, fo sho.

[@sthenzel]

While it is not much shorter than a compact SMG in an intermediate caliber but also much more bulky than a pistol, I think there is a good reason behind this PDW: One single gun can be an officer´s sidearm (in pistol config with a normal mag) and a PDW for vehicle/crew/policing uses. Eases maintenance and ammo logistics a lot!

[@silphonym]

Yeah, that's probably its biggest selling point for military contracts. Simplified logistics across sidearms and PDWs.

[@Supercohboy]

Yes. The pistol to PDW conversion frames all fit this paradigm. This fad exists to sell the military/militaries another breakable doohicky that they'll waste millions on, if we're being honest. It's still a neat fad that's resulting in some interesting products for civvies, but I think this is a stepping stone towards the repopularization of micro-SMGs/machine pistols. Modern materials and ergonomics made possible through new production methods = a perfect combination to make "micro-PDWs" a more feasible concept.

[@sbreheny]

It looks like it could be advantageous if the stock had two pieces - the actual butt plate and a cheek weld pad which sits part-way along the rails. You could make it slide into place automatically when the stock is deployed and then slide back up against the buttplate when you push the stock back into the chassis to store it. This would allow the collapsed length to be just as short as if the cheek weld pad were integrated into the buttplate, but still allow a cheek weld further down the rails.

[@ClaymoreM18]

I like that hat, the camo pattern is exactly or very similar to the one used before by the Colombian army

[@ForgottenWeapons]

That would be because it is a Colombian Army hat ;)

[@ClaymoreM18]

@@ForgottenWeapons :D

[@KyleSunday-b2d]

Wow this is really cool good eye for the hat and it’s really cool to see someone as big as Ian actually interacting with fans in the comments! Go Ian 🎉

[@no1DdC]

@@KyleSunday-b2d You will see more seemingly genuine interactions in the future, because KZbin is starting to roll out a feature (that nobody asked for) that lets creators post AI-generated comments. I'm not saying that Ian is doing this, but it's already happening elsewhere.

[@stuppittyhed]

@@no1DdC cry

[@LeonM4c]

Been seeing this on the various gun channels lately. I DO enjoy the concept of the "upgraded pistol", seems like one could have a lot of fun with customizations and looks fun to shoot.

[@paneofrealitychannel8204]

When they invent the "Sig Switch" they gonna have something there.

[@stuartwhelan233]

I really appreciate you videos over the years lan thank you from Carlisle Cumbria England like to wish you all across the pond a happy Christmas and new year.

[@SW-ii5gg]

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all and to all a good knight.

[@playmaka2007]

In the end, Brass Facts always wins lmao. We will all fall to the great PDW

[@knightofgrimwaldt2721]

Got mine rececently for my fullsize and its been a blast

[@addedcheese]

some poor soldier is going to lose that hex wrench and will have a serious earful from their commanding officer

[@charlesfisher3983]

*SSG but yes

[@koumakyo]

This is a weapon intended for civilians.

[@addedcheese]

@koumakyo pretty sure there is already a military contract for it

[@HalfmoonForge]

What quartermaster in their right mind (besides elbonian) would even approve this.

[@tilmykillme]

@@HalfmoonForge ones that need concealed options

[@sntslilhlpr6601]

This thing is super cool. I don't have a use for it, and the price tag is a bit steep, but just the fact that it exists definitely ups the cool factor of my P320. I look forward to seeing it on screen.

[@gcm423]

IAN WATCHES BRASS FACTS!! I always get excited when my favorite guntubers reference each other and/or collab. Glad to see Brock getting the recognition he deserves.

[@ShimadaSharra]

i LOVE how he is holding it at the "NOT A GRIP"

[@beverlychmelik5504]

As an sbr, that restriction is gone.

[@immikeurnot]

It's only a VFG if you can wrap your hand around it.

[@lassikinnunen]

​@@immikeurnothow big is the standard hand?

[@bower31]

@@beverlychmelik5504 Theres no restriction on holding a magwell, it just has to distinctly not be a vertical grip. In the same way you can shoulder a brace but the ATF strongly discourages it, and says you can't demonstrate or encourage people to do so.

[@broworm1]

Next level captive screw, it stayed in the sight.

[@robertsolomielke5134]

TY Ian. As a low key pdw it has a place. There is some terrain , like doghair scrub forest where 10' ft is all you can see, and maybe hunt with it. Not my 1st. pick of what's available.

[@matthaught4707]

Missed a perfect opportunity to say "If you like it, put a sling on it"

[@MichaelTravis12c27]

Thanks for the update. I’ve been debating doing the sbr with mine. I assumed the mid length stock would be the way to go.

[@1MoTimeRound]

Previous Flux Legion video: "They finally got it right". Within 30 seconds: RE: Brace - "that is dumb"....

[@Goc4ever]

The P320 Flux Legion Raider looks like a very sick-looking gun someone would find in a sci-fi media like Star Wars, Halo etc. It's an exquisite gun conversion kit to look at.

[@Urix9999]

It’s actually in battlefield 2042. Pretty fun to use.

[@SailaSobriquet]

The Flux would be a great platform for 10mm.

[@csorgb05]

I wish SIG made a more budget friendly version of this. A version without the front magazine storage would be great for states that might have issue with it.

[@alancranford3398]

Add a suppressor and select-fire capabilities and you have the UNCLE Special. I don't know how sleep pellets are going to be crammed into the capabilities of the Flux Legion Raider, though. This video and the introduction were enjoyable.

[@jmpetersrn]

Lord, you are old like me to remember that!

[@Lexman00]

I think this is definitely the future of PDW's. The SP5, APC9, and MPX are cool and all, but this design just makes so much more sense to me. I definitely want to buy one of these, and keep it in my truck

[@stevej6991]

Great videos Ian and a fun product, but I'd love to see some side by side targets with the P320 freehand at the same rate of fire :)

[@srspower]

I'm sure nobody buying the braced version would EVER shoulder the brace or use the magazine storage thing as a front grip. Not ever!

[@RedXlV]

Obviously, only somebody who's registered it as an SBR would ever do that.

[@fpsvoltage3005]

i love the sound it makes

[@craigulatorOne]

I wish to come back when it's a two stamper, thanks for the initial range report.

[@bartolomeothesatyr]

That spring-loaded brace and the double mag drop'll look frickin' awesome in slow motion in the next John Wick.

[@vojtechtax9723]

Hey Ian, that thing is so cool. Almost feels like the next step in the evolution of (service, not concealed) pistols as it adresses so many of their weakness. I do have a question: would this be viable with a full auto trigger? Surely since it has a stock (and a compensator in your case), it negates the uncontrollability of a machine pistol while potentially being usefull in tight spaces, where this thing might already see use. On a side note, whag watch are you wearing in this video?

[@timgunn3670]

This goes on my long list of firearms I need!

[@stephanb.3342]

Watched your first video already. I really enjoy the dual magazines ejection button.

[@ericsalazar2337]

This seems like it needs a suppressor at all times to make everything come together in a small and accurate package 😊

[@srspower]

It would be interesting to see how it looked and performs with a stubby silencer on it.

[@DarkestVampire92]

Still think it needs a slide racker, maybe in place of the front sight. Also, with a suppressor mounted, its probably the size of an MP5...

[@k5blaze84]

8:49 THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID! 😂

[@wslrichards]

Beat me to it!

[@angelorasmijn7306]

Haha, that’s my kind of humor! 😂

[@MrGrimm1911]

I feel like the extra long stock could have a collapsing cheekweld that attaches to the back plate below the sight and covers the whole top of the stock

[@alexcapps9290]

Having shot a few of these all of your complaints with the stock are not an issue with the recover tactical setup I run on my G17. you have to use slide mounted optic but I run the HS507 comp and the sight picture is quite nice. I agree about the manual safety being a requirement and found one that works with my glock setup

[@johnkapri6306]

It's obvious how much fun Ian has with this pistol and to be honest, I would love to be able to tinker with with and shoot it, too! It seems like such a cool concept.

[@Marcin206pl]

Pm63 RAK, welcome back!

[@SW-ii5gg]

That's what I was thinking.

[@gandalf5895]

8:45 "Too much is easier to work with than too little" That's what she said

[@douglasthomashayden2566]

9:00 -ish Maybe suggest to the SiG or Flux folks to make a backstrap 'cover' that could be detached and thrown over the stock rails for a cheek weld that could be adjusted / placed by each shooter where it would be the best fit?

[@twenty4DD]

Love to see a 10mm/7.5 FK version

[@kevinkearney902]

So whats to stop them from making a cheek weld (sp?) that springs forward when the stock springs back? That way you can still lean forward into it. If thats to difficult maybe a telescoping plate?

[@douglasclark1894]

Put 6" bbl on it if using as pdw? Also maybe take front sight off and design a charging handle that fits in the dovetail

[@MrMe-lf2ov]

LMAO "that is dumb and I dont want it". Best line on the interwebs this week.

[@TMNewtBoy]

Now we just need Sig to make a modernised beretta 93r inspired 3 round burst pistol...

[@avwillis5269]

Even better, Beretta has their own firearm that runs off a fcu, that actually sells at extremely competitive prices online. I think we're sleeping on the idea of an APX chassis.

[@michaelg4931]

@@avwillis5269 They could name it the APX Predator. 😉

[@andrewreynolds9371]

Okay, now for the ultimate question: does the add-on stock/brace actually improve your accuracy?

[@no1DdC]

The fact that this is never answered in combination with Ian being gifted this expensive gun does leave a bit of a foul after taste.

[@MrCarGuy]

Maybe for shorter people with shorter arms.

[@AdamantLightLP]

Literally yes. He didn’t say anything because it’s obvious. Shouldering a weapon is ALWAYS more accurate and easier than pistol shooting.

[@andrewreynolds9371]

@AdamantLightLP but enough to justify the added cost of this 'accessory '? Now that would be a question I'd like to hear the answer to.

[@Craig-u6j]

Happy Christmas (birthday)when it happens, GunJesus, but how does it shoot un stocked, and as a pistol. The intended market are likely to go for accuracy by volume in the first instance of a contact, and then pop the stock out when its time to manoeuvre of the x. So still needs to be functionable as a pistol with all the strap on fun strapped on

[@BBB_bbb_BBB]

Even if it didn't end up being reliable, this is just cool enough to warrant use. But fortunately it seems to actually be highly functional. I was hoping he'd try out the iron sights as well since there is the little passthrough under the rail.

[@MrTribalpanther]

I found out this existed when a buddy of mine showed up to the range with one a couple weeks ago. No optics, so that's how we shot it, iron sights from the pass through. Works great, but you really have to get your head down to look under it, so it's not the most comfortable. Still a fun toy, though.

[@larrykostopulos1332]

So good to see a man enjoying his work so much, therefore it’s not work at all.

[@Anon-mk4ms]

I'm a fan of these pistol chassis kits.

[@andrewkasmar9769]

Try it with a EOtech XPS . I tried a few different optics and it is by far the best setup from an easy of use perspective. It allows for better head placement and some fund night vision use cases.

[@CenlaSelfDefenseConcepts]

I'm hoping they'll make one for the ruger RXM because it uses a fire control chassis. I would like to have a raider but I don't want anything to do with the P320 due to the issues they keep having.

[@P2501-y6u]

In the other video didn't Ian say there's only a trigger safety? I thought he said the stock blocks the manual safety. And you have to rack the slide from the front. Is it safe to carry chambered? A cocking handle adds weight and size but might save a pinky finger or two lol

[@cmdrgunslinger5955]

Needs a slightly longer barrel & slide or a shorter frame. I'dve thought that the brace would work fine as a stock especially for a lefty. As you sbr'd it anyway you'd still be legal.

[@MyxeQ]

I have mine set up with a Rugged K suppressor and it is very pleasant to shoot.

[@immikeurnot]

I tried mine with a couple suppressors and wasn't happy with getting a face full of gas...

[@MyxeQ]

@@immikeurnot I put a piece of tape over the rear site port on the back and it reduces the gas substantially.

[@immikeurnot]

@@MyxeQ I tried that, then I bought the solid rear "gas cap" and it didn't really help. Earlier, I pulled the cap off, stuck my finger in the channel and it came out black. I doubt I've run more than a couple hundred rounds suppressed through my Flux...

[@braydancoe3390]

Love the video ✌️

[@Maximilian178]

If that last one had a cheeck weld (maybe on top) that you could slide forward once the brace is extended, that would be great.

[@jimsvideos7201]

There’s another way to do the stock piece to both keep it short and get you a cheek weld. More to follow.

[@marks1638]

Thanks Ian. I enjoyed the video. But you also pointed out the convolutions we have to go through in the US to use a really functional rifle or pistol caliber carbine because some idiots decided they were "evil" short, barreled weapons is really beyond silly. I'd love to have some pistol caliber carbines in proper configurations, not in 16-inch barrels that make them impractical to carry.

[@davek7706]

The comparison I'm looking for is accuracy of the raider with shoulder stock vs. a normal sig.

[@AdamantLightLP]

It will be better. It’s weeeeell known that 3points of contact is always better than pistol shooting.

[@damirblazevic4823]

Nice watch, Ian 👍

[@SW-ii5gg]

What kind of watch ⌚️ is it?

[@propdoctor21564]

Another great video as always. Really looks like a neat little weapon 👍

[@user-mb1bq9se1w]

I'm curious where one would engrave a Sig FCU for an application like this in SBR config

[@gunman11]

The stowage for the hex wrench should be universally copied by EVERYONE. Thank you Ian, for another good morning vidio. 😊

[@The_Social_Dude]

That's basically the grandson of the Hotchkiss Universal. :D But my they did a great job! If you use that along with the GM6 Lynx you get the most telescoping setup ever.

[@bobbressi5414]

The carbine module for a pistol is a concept I don't really get. If you plan to SBR the chasis, why not just buy a ready made pistol carbine? It will give you greater barrel length improving acuracy and velocity. This to me is like putting giant rear tires on a car and calling it a dragster.

[@brendanrobertson5966]

14:00 dual holsters to use for both your rifle and pistol for the night match? :D

[@jasonjavelin]

This is really cool and I’m usually a hater on the whole mag as a front grip thing but it just looks sick on this platform

[@windwalker5765]

It looks like an interesting system, but I need to see how it works in a holster with a spare magazine in the holder. I feel like if you get to the point that you can't easily carry it holstered, if you're wearing it slung, you might as well go to a compact PCC like the CMMG Banshee.

[@FluxCaleb]

There are a couple companies that make after market holsters. The full size raider is mostly designed around being a bag gun. However, our 365 version has a holster and is very concealable IWB.

[@tribeval]

the most forgotten thing about the flux raider, was the idea of actually selling them to paying customers instead of hype beast e-flexers. It truly deserves it's place in the gucci graveyard.

[@WillardLongshot-ks8yg]

It's not forgotten, nor is it in the graveyard. It's a very exciting piece of equipment, and people are already buying them. Everything from Sig is expensive, and whinging about it like an entitled child isn't going to change that.

[@tribeval]

@@WillardLongshot-ks8yg that last bit is so ironic

[@FluxCaleb]

We’ve done a fair bit of scaling the last few months to the point where if you want one, they are readily available most weeks after a restock. We’ve also made sure to always prioritize customer sales. We’ve barred many influencers and employees from getting units in the past until they are readily available or at least more available than every 6 months.

[@bower31]

@@WillardLongshot-ks8yg lmao

[@mrfoxgamer4202]

That is so cool.

[@blakebrady9002]

you should also check out the Flux 365, it has a flip out brace that deploys automatically when drawn

[@Smokey_Cornbread]

Stupid question and I'll take however many L's I need to 😂 but is that chassis only for the 9mm? I know the 320 also has a .45 version, that's why I'm asking

[@bigslinking]

Because your rainbow unicorn bro.... Any other questions!

[@zerofactor7871]

You could always get a Recover 20/20 brace for a 1911...with Wilson Combat 10 rounders and a dot mounted to the chassis it's cyberpunk as hell and highly efficacious

[@mabs9503]

Recover 2020 also makes a Glock 21 chasis and Vektor makes stendos tho I'm not sure exactly what capacity.

[@Noximillien-LHorloger]

prob only 9 mm bcs the chassis is made with injection mold, to make one for 45 they would need an entire new mold which would be very expensive if there arent enough people who have them

[@immikeurnot]

Only the 9/.40 version. Magazines and even FCU dimensions are different for the .45 guns.

[@scribejay]

4:39 I wonder if the spring to deploy the sometimes a stock is also strong enough to pull the slide.

[@titter3648]

This would be a ideal fit for a micro prism sight. That way you get some magnification, a BDC reticle, and a etched reticle in case the battery runs out. And micro prisms is compact enough to fit on the short top rail. Eye relief will not be a problem because the rail is really close to your face anyway.

[@havadatequila]

"whatever your purpose for having this is" is the question.

[@robert8984]

Ok, serious question. The thing looks fun and cool, but if i want a PDW for the D in PDW, there is no reason to buy this thing, right?

[@FluxCaleb]

“Personal defense weapon”? There’s a fair bit of people that enjoy them as their “go to” home defense firearm.

[@Vespuchian]

And here I was thinking Ian was done with Space Magic Future guns when he did that H&K G11 video. Damn thing looks straight out of an 80s Van Damme movie (Damme thing?)

[@alexmccauley503]

Brass Facts name drop 13:40

[@Dtrain79]

I haven't shot mine yet, I am planning on buying a fullsize 320 and getting a threaded barrel for it and using that slide as I want to shoot it suppressed. In turn I will have a nice comped 320 pistol as well

[@Sabretoothsquirrel]

I was wondering in the first video how one would efficiently and comfortably rack the slide in that chassi. This video have answered with an apparent; sorta efficiently and seemingly not so comfortably.

[@FluxCaleb]

There are a couple companies such as TacDev that make a charging handle specifically for the Raider. Definitely give them a look.

[@apborick5796]

How practical is it to carry all the bulk on your thigh/hip?

[@theprojectproject01]

Maybe not that practical? But it does give a great excuse for a Sam Browne crossbody sling for your belt.