Pacific Rim Could've Been a Great Franchise

[@TexYT]

bro dropped one of the best kaiju films then left the genre.

[@anubusx]

Nice dig at the mcu.

[@captain_yuckey]

he said “lets make a movie then dip out”

[@TexYT]

​@@anubusx would it be a Tex video if I didn't?

[@jaylenjayden9305]

Fr

[@_MECHA_]

Underated.

[@conorhamersleyspage8173]

Honestly a shame that we never got a Sequel to Pacific Rim. I would have loved to see more from that universe

[@jasontodd6779]

At least they didn't hire a new director and make a terible sequel that destroy everything the first movie build.

[@conorhamersleyspage8173]

@@jasontodd6779 true

[@archflamingo9156]

@@jasontodd6779megamind 2 maybe

[@OtachiKaiju68]

The ATLA tactic I see :p

[@mr.lizard666]

yeah a real shame.

[@Bluehairarrancer]

bro dropped the one of the hardest movies of the decade and left the genre

[@sauces7465]

bros gotye

[@Cod3nameHurricane]

I think you meant century

[@darkshat3077]

Word for word

[@ivanjerganoff280]

Hellboy and pacific rim.😢

[@satnav1980]

Mr Copy and Paste

[@pradeepdungdung4379]

can we talk about how Amara's flashback scene was supposed to be emotional but it turned out to be way comical than it should've been

[@TexYT]

I laughed too hard.

[@themosa]

I don't even remember who that is 😭

[@pradeepdungdung4379]

@@themosa I only remember her name cause of just that scene and how it utterly fails compared to Mako's flashback

[@dracodracarys2339]

and how they killed Mako to make room for her even though Mako piloting Gipsy Avenger with her adoptive brother could have had some interesting potential.

[@Springtrap11556]

“Jump! I’ll catch you-“ *SPLAT*

[@mecadragoon]

still waiting for the second movie, my hopes up

[@udhayveersingh1855]

You mean third?

[@mecadragoon]

@@udhayveersingh1855 there is no second movie yet :(

[@rodgers1207]

​@@udhayveersingh1855 this is a case where the fandom pretends that a sequel doesn't exist. (or that it's a non-canon spin-off)

[@Wurmze]

Read Occam’s razor (unless you’re super anti newt/hermann) I consider it the true sequel. Basically takes the idea that some kaiju were left on earth after the breach was closed, and the ksci duo are still connected to that hivemind and are effecting each other. Basically tackles the idea of how connecting with the hivemind like they did in the first movie in a much better way than “uprising” did

[@inthecloudz1272]

​@@udhayveersingh1855 sad reality you must live in

[@pattypixel5851]

imagine if guillermo direct godzilla…

[@rengoku_117]

It would've emphasized the radioactive side of godzilla

[@kuro._aert]

​@@rengoku_117 ngl, I'd love that so much better than gvk

[@TheReal_GigaChad]

​@@kuro._aertI mean realistically the movie would just be nuclear mouth beam = kong melts from being near it😭 I don't know if that's gonna be a long movie💀

[@Donnie.Golding]

Would be the best decision

[@boboboy8189]

There's another thing i want to add, 1) never kill OG heroes from previous movie. 2) never makes Kids as soldier unless the original is about Kids as soldier. 3) every sequel need to make it grittier because the audiences age especially Kids already grow up.

[@misaelacevedo7105]

Could have worked if maybe 1) don’t kill your hero’s off in a non heroic way (mako in contrast to every other pilot in the fist movie) 2) have Charley Day’s character doing the kid as soldiers thing (because evil) 3) keep the gothic feel instead of going generic action movie themed There’s a lot of good ideas in this movie but non of the originals soul (bit of an issue when making a sequel)

[@barrymccaulkiner7092]

Yes, do not utilize children as the main protagonist. They get annoying real fast. The trope is getting tired. The reason they went with children is because they were trying to sell the film to kids and eventually toys. Milly Bobby brown's character and her chubby friend in the monster verse is also annoying.

[@lola-to9om]

@@barrymccaulkiner7092yes why Millie and her fat friend in the movies they don’t bring anything to the story they just increase the budget I didn’t see them in the new movie trailer so I think it’s a good news.

[@IAloneAmTheYapper]

I disagree with all of those

[@TheBeastInBlack]

​@@misaelacevedo7105When did PR ever have a Gothic feel?

[@melogrey]

Dont ever compare Pacific Rim with Power Ranger Uprising.

[@omirtheohioman]

😂

[@Hari-qw4vq]

Even power rangers had more realistic mech fights

[@FrazerEddy]

Well, it is fair to at least talk about Uprising.

[@Kaegri]

Thinking back on this, I now realise that I can vividly remember each kaijuu in GDT's PacRim, but I legit can't recall a single kaijuu from Uprising…

[@dracodracarys2339]

one of them looked like a giant toothy vagina, that one was memorable at least

[@HeyYouFromThatGame]

LMAO SAME

[@danielloewen2857]

Cause there were only three in that movie and they all merged into one and they were all very basic

[@Guitar_Guy783]

@@danielloewen2857 Were those Kaiju even named?

[@saif-gv6gl]

Knifehead, Leatherback, Otachi, goddamn those were great Kaijus, I really adore that movie with all of my heart

[@tprimeplayz6450]

Pacific rim is a good standalone film.

[@Kal_El1994]

Let's not forget - the first trailer and main trailer go unbelievably HARD

[@dracodracarys2339]

The sad part is that a lot of great ideas were there. Mako's adoptive brother? Newt getting brainwashed? An evil Jaeger? Hybrid drones? A fusion Kaiju? All could have been used to great effect. But they completely botched the execution, killed Mako, replaced her with a boring white teen girl with the exact same backstory and added the trololololo song.

[@FrazerEddy]

Honestly, I don't think they knew how big a cult following the first Pacific Rim had, when making Uprising. They just assumed it was just another dumb monster vs robot film, like Transformers.

[@stonkotron319]

Another small thing that the sequel did wrong was making the jaegers generic. I’m the first filsm they each have completely different feels and so did the pilot suits. They were all unique to the country of origin. But in uprising they all feel like power rangers

[@spy_kek7609]

Different soundtracks as well. Like when cherno and typhoon were fighting and it switched back to cherno beating the kaiju you could hear the soviet music

[@ginnogianni1980]

all have different weaknesses too that go into how they are defeated

[@Pepe_theFrog404]

You mean that one bad fan movie? Yeah anyways it's not canon so...

[@RedEyesBlackKnight]

Back in 2013, while i did deeply enjoy pacific rim i was perfectly content with it being a one and done. Especially considering how the film ends, not really leaving the door open to potential sequels without undoing what the first film accomplished. Which is exactly what the sequel did unfortunately.

[@LeoBlight]

Pacific Rim… Giant Robots and monsters Fighting! Pacific Rim 2… Toddlers playing with toy robots and monsters!

[@makatron]

There's no sequel bro.

[@LeoBlight]

@@makatron yeah that’s right! No sequel 👀

[@makatron]

@@LeoBlight I'm glad we're on the same page

[@pattypixel5851]

first film ❤ second film 💔

[@dantefromdevilmaycry9857]

second film?

[@Iianator]

Their is no sequel in Ba Sing Se

[@makatron]

What sequel are you speaking of? There's just one movie.

[@Theguywhowanders]

Is it really SO bad that you have to ignore its existence ? 😭 people still talk about the last knight in the transformers community, even tho it was trash

[@Moonlight-qo5hw]

Pacific Rim is like an artist who made a beautiful painting to amaze people and gets credit for their creativity. Pacific Rim: Uprising is like someone looks at the artist’s painting, throws it into the fire and puts his own artwork filled with cringey memes and poorly drawn fanfic hand art.

[@twistytwistry]

Pacific Rim: Uprising? Never heard of that. Is that some kind of fan movie to Pacific rim?

[@baboonery3]

@@twistytwistry yea

[@rory8182]

Honestly the new director being a TV director makes tons of sense

[@johnevans4867]

PACIFIC RIM itself was like a great 3d film in a trilogy, where we never got the first two, showing the rise of the kaiju and the rise of the Jaegers, leading to mankind's last stand. A pity in a way.

[@BUENOWITHSOMEbuoNo]

They should have done a prequel instead, would have been great to see some mark 1 and 2 jaegers.

[@atomf9143]

Absolutely! You could have some epic Kaiju fights with earlier generations of Jeagers- the peers of Cherno Alpha and Gypsy. But noooo, let’s just make up new stuff.

[@jacktoma21]

If only we could go to a universe where all of Del Toros cancelled movies came out, like Mountain Madness, his version of the Hobbit, Justice League Dark, and Hellboy 3

[@TexYT]

So upset about his version of The Hobbit never getting made cause of all the arguing amongst the studios

[@jacktoma21]

@@TexYT the worse crime of the whole affair was making Ian McKellen cry, shame on them.

[@evilalex87]

still can just need another good film and its back

[@jonathan.l_yt]

Messed up they killed one of the best main characters in the 2nd. Would be cool if they did a sequel to Pacific Rim between the 1st and Uprising or used a drift connection of some sort to bring the characters back, but it would defeat their sacrifice. It was an honor growing up with the 1st movie and having neca figures to preserve the memories.

[@yahzee.skellington]

She didn't die because Uprising doesn't exist. It's just a collective delusion we're all sharing

[@jonathan.l_yt]

@yahzee.skellington in that case, hoping Del Toro makes a real sequel, if not, it was awesome having Pacific Rim

[@arrownoir]

@@yahzee.skellingtonYou’re too old to be living in fantasy land.

[@brawler8839]

Something i loved about pacific rim is the worldbuilding and lore in it. That intro shows dozens of kaiju and jaegers in a matter of seconds and every one of them has a documented name, combat history, and background if you decide to look into it.

[@zillauniverse7208]

Literally I was the right age when the first Pacific Rim came out, it was a 10 year olds wet dream and I still love till this day, as for Uprising I gave it a rewatch not to long ago and I will admit had this been its own separate Giant Robot vs Kaiju movie not connected to Pacific Rim I would have enjoyed it in a dumb fun kind of way but because it is a sequel to the first Pacific Rim it really is a big slap in the face.

[@souls1lver]

The first film was perfect in what it set out to do, not the perfect movie but the perfect mech monster movie, it's clear that the people making it put pure creativity and attention to detail into it. They should give it another shot; bring back del Toro and the og director and retcon the second movie, if monsterverse can sell tickets, so can a retconed sequel.

[@abelmatw]

WE WERE DRIFT COMPATIBLE! “Theme music kicks in”!

[@G59METH]

I thought there were like 5 Pacific Rim movies until I watched this video and until last year I didn't even know Guillermo Del Toro directed the first one lol

[@rishiredij2449]

Yeh, sad there's only one when you expected five😔

[@TheSpinkels]

I've said it once, and I'll say it again. Best idea for a sequel would have been - Jaeger Cold War. No more Kaiju means suddenly a whole bunch of nations right next to each other with the tech to build nuke proof rock-em sock-em robots, plus the sudden revelation that Kaiju are technologically engineered and could be reversed. There's gonna' be fallout over that for sure. It's dark, it's gritty, it's action-y, and there's avenue for a big monster resurgence that doesn't just feel like a "somehow Palpatine returned." I'd buy 10 tickets for something like that. Also points if the Aussies are the evil overlords, seeing as they're canonically the ones with the primo MK5 Jaeger tech.

[@danielramsey6141]

The Sequel Did the One thing I hated! It Killed Mako. The Fan Favorite, the Character that had the most potential. And she Died. That was some Bullsh*t.

[@thematiasmadness7010]

Fantastic movie but what’s up with all this people who had an optical illusion about a second movie?

[@TexYT]

Mandela effect.

[@makatron]

These individuals are delusional beyond what current medicine could cure, they strongly believe there's a sequel, where we as the sane ones know there's only one film.

[@SA80TAGE]

@@TexYT This doesn't look like anything to me 😐 \W/

[@tsepheletseka5115]

I've heard of a movie about giant Power Rangers (haven't seen it) stomping through Tokyo trying to stop a giant monster from going into a volcano. Any idea what movie that is?

[@thematiasmadness7010]

@@tsepheletseka5115 no doesn’t ring any bells

[@chidieberenwadike4165]

Well, Tex, I have some good news for you, because Legendary just announced a Pacific Rim prequel series

[@Skyler_Deacon]

The first time I watched Pacific Rim was on a giant tv with surround sound and some nice 3d glasses for 2013, not the blue and red kind. It has been one of my favorite movies ever since then. To bad they never made a sequel. 👀

[@MarkusB37]

Coincidentally I literally finished watching pacific rim right as this video was uploaded

[@Poppyscooop3]

There should be a prequel! There’s literally source material and comics. I’m so glad they haven’t made a 2nd movie. Hope they do :)

[@chasehodgmo5537]

If there were any news for a 3rd movie, i think most of us could universally wish for it to be a prequal during the glory days

[@sbi168]

I love the first one. It was such a great 3d movie. Adored it. The sequel was......there.

[@VampTheTrash]

Still the best Kaiju movie Hollywood ever made

[@shonuff9655]

Pacific Rim gave me hope for a Mobile Fighter G Gundam film.

[@Dirteater123]

I love how this is the same stuff that is happening with the Godzilla movies that we are getting. There is no sense of scale and it lacks everything what the first two movies accomplished.

[@Kaiju-bm4ts]

Godzilla's franchise has been going back and forth between weight and scale far longer to the point fans can take it or leave it either way. Is Godzilla 98 for example a better G flick cause it had more weight than let's just say gvk? Absolutely not. Is the godzilla animated series worst than the godzilla anime trilogy cause the latter has weight to godzilla but the former doesn't? Absolutely not. Godzilla works regardless of the style. PR is an original IP that needs Guillermo's style to work, otherwise it just doesn't work as PR if it tries to do any other style.

[@nkeneca]

@@Kaiju-bm4ts The problem is that those were distinct different movies, series. The monsterverse is intended, as its name implies, to be the same universe, a single saga, so seeing those inconsistencies is even more jarring for those that like one version more than another all in the same line of movies. "If Godzilla can run now why didn't he do that in the first one?", etc

[@Kaiju-bm4ts]

@@nkeneca Um..because...it's a stylistic choice to make him run in one movie and slow in another? That's not a continuity connection. Let alone not a inconsistency. It's called variety. The franchise being versatile is why the MV (just like showa/heisei) doesn't stick to the same tones or styles in every movie and doesn't repeat the same style over and over again to the point it gets stale. This is why I said the godzilla franchise hasversatility, PR doesn't

[@BlazeSwigglePlayzMc]

@@nkeneca But the monstervers has sort of explained why he can run now, he literally juices up more every movie he is in, even in the Monarch show which takes place after 2014 Godzilla shows that same version just 1 year later is already walking a bit faster not running but he definitely is not as sluggish as in the original film.

[@shockmaster0792]

@@BlazeSwigglePlayzMcguess godzilla is a terrible morning person then, I can relate.

[@svz1345]

Pacific rim is the perfect power Rangers movie.

[@alexer52]

Honestly, the second movie had robots with rocket feet. That's enough for me to love it

[@doomy1803]

I’m just happy we got that first movie. Nothing could top that imo

[@Naheealson]

0:36 Whats that? A fan animation?

[@TexYT]

Found it online. Origin unknown.

[@gigerdevoter5577]

The biggest issue with Pacific Rim is that there is clear disinterest in making a good film like the first one. Pacific rim uprising tried too hard to be like evangelion and other 90's anime where, which hurt the plot and aesthetics. The only three characters that actually returned were either killed off way too soon or acted differently. I think the biggest disappointment however is how it was placed in the wrong hands. Aside from pacific rim uprising, the only other media we've received is Pacific Rim The Black, an animated miniseries that tried to fix the problem uprising had, but somehow made its issues worse at the same time. How can you make a show that centers around two kids piloting a robot and go on an adventure with a boy that was secretly a kaiju superweapon? It strayed too far from the concept and as much as I hate to say this, the idea of a franchise is dead. Del toro stated that he was not interested in making another movie and legendary might not want to make a sequel as it would be too risky in the financial sense.

[@Kaiju-bm4ts]

Just pointing this out there...Del Toro said one of his ideas for the PR universe was to have the precursors be future humans so.....if boy being a kaiju is far fetched then idk how precursors being humans themselves gets a pass.

[@smurgerburger]

​@@Kaiju-bm4ts precursors dont turn into a giant fucking kaiju. A little boy turning into a giant kaiju doesn't make any sense at all unless there is some type of black magic.

[@Zirah58]

​​@@smurgerburgerIt's Anime logic, that's why you can't really say it's canon at all. Although, I liked the part where they make the mother experience what could have been finally reuniting with her husband. That was beautiful.

[@BUENOWITHSOMEbuoNo]

The show was good, I really enjoyed it but I must admit after like three or four episodes, I didn't feel like watching pacific rim anymore. Still thousands times better than that fan made sequel.

[@Lonelyboy0-u5n]

This movie is the reason i like mech genre in the first places

[@georgeo309]

one thing that not a lot of people know is that Hugo Martin, the game director of Doom 2016 and Doom eternal was working alongside Guillermo del Toro designing the Jaegers and Kaijus. if you look at the movie's behind the scene, you can spot him a few times.

[@jupiter5673]

I hope Warner Bros reboots the Pacific Rim franchise for the Monsterverse so we can actually get a Godzilla X Kong VS Pacific Rim movie

[@TheSleepSteward]

I absolutely love that in the recent months; there's been a bunch of KZbinrs making videos on Pacific Rim. Hopefully it'll get the attention of someone high up and make this possible but... You can only hope right?

[@yeahboyz9314]

I got an idea, a small country with a long coast line (for example vietnam) they put all resources into a single jeager, the moive is about a duo who compete to become the pilot to defend the country, and they get help from other pilot that pay them a visit, or about a group of potential pilots get send aboard to train while the country is on count down

[@fioregrimaldi4120]

A missed opportunity for this movie, it should've did a crossover with the Monsterverse, we got Godzilla, we got Kong, we got Jaegers fighting Kaijus. It would've been great

[@TrueNamelessOne]

Godzilla is, like, four times their weight.

[@twicedemita2151]

@@TrueNamelessOne ye monsterverse is so much bigger

[@thesovietduck2121]

​@@TrueNamelessOnewe had 30 of them in 1 shatterdome I wanna see them wail on the big G or the monkey

[@Abyssxll]

@@TrueNamelessOnefor some reason on the wiki, their stats got updates although without a source. so most jaegars weigh around 50k tons now

[@TrueNamelessOne]

@@Abyssxll So NOW he's 4 times their size. *Weight

[@Arob4343]

Pacific Rim is so great and I really want more of it. I still do, I haven’t given up on it. But I know it’s not happening, so I’m not holding my breath 😢

[@the8626]

another thing i never see mentioned about uprising is that none of the jaegers there have a nationality they're based on. a lot of the personality derived from the jaegers in the original was based on the ideas that people had about those countries and their cultures. for example; cherno alpha is aggressively russian with not only its theme music, but also the feeling of its WWII inspired design and heavy emphasis on armor and brute force. whereas, most of the jaegers in uprising don't really have that cultural identity, and instead come off more as a vague idea of a jaeger than a specific identity. makes sense that people often compare them to power rangers.

[@xyrendeocampo4069]

Now that you have listed the problems with the sequel I just realized something too. It really felt like the second film was trying to copy the first film but does not quite capture it. The Kaijus that were supposed to be the big bads was treated like your typical goons that got beaten by a bunch of children. It does not capture the essence of the first film's fighting for humanity's survival.

[@Nah_id_win_883]

It was a pilliar of my childhood along with godzilla 2014

[@milchesarreal6964]

Dude love this dissection of the Pacific Rim fanfilm, it was so well done but it's still got room to improve story-wise Still needs a proper sequel though

[@sauceofbeanz]

i stand by my opinion that pacific rim is the best live action kaiju movie and we need another anime

[@drzen7703]

Pacific rim had a lot of potential, Like gozzila and kong. The director really know how to make big monster and robot looks big and mechanical. And the Idea of humanity cooperate together to fight against alien enemy is a awesome idea. Much bigger scale than "america superhero save the world" and "family" stuffs.

[@MrFizzz]

Yo tex long time no see Also since you're watching more anime now are you planning to put out videos related to it ?

[@TexYT]

Perhaps

[@Bane520]

Parasocial

[@juliane.mfarias9285]

There is a perfect universe somewhere where Pacific Rim and the Monsterverse are both a mutual success. Imagine how happy Legendary is in that universe. And the fans.

[@Tazytots]

Seems you have missed it, but Guillermo said he's making a third movie, and has plans for a cinematic universe for Pacific Rim.

[@ammomusic5319]

i think about this at least every other week, could’ve been a great franchise

[@wickdaline8668]

If they used Del Toro's script, Uprising might have been better received.

[@DeathTrooperReviews]

It actually sucks what happened in this universe. The first movie is one of the best if not the best Kaiju film of all time, then uprising killed the franchise leaving nothing behind. The black couldn't even save it. It honestly deserves another chance to be good and fulfill it's purpose as a good Kaiju universe

[@BUENOWITHSOMEbuoNo]

A prequel could maybe save it

[@DeathTrooperReviews]

@@BUENOWITHSOMEbuoNo well let's wait and see, there's a prequel tv show in active development!!!

[@gunnnervirden5543]

I pray that we’ll get another movie, I 100% think that if we got del back on project we could get a really good movie, pacific rim is a great movie and I find myself coming back to it.

[@bruhboi7305]

I hope pacific rim gets a second movie after 11 years of nothing,pacific rim is the best kaiju movie ever it must come back

[@BUENOWITHSOMEbuoNo]

A prequel would be nice.

[@krismac7695]

The first Pacific Rim is one of my favourite movies ever and really kick started my love for the kaiju genre, then cemented by the monsterverse. Such a shame the franchise was mismanaged like it was. How good would it have been for the Pacific Rim and Godzilla franchise's to have grown alongside one another. Most likely the two universes would have merged together at some point.

[@BrontoSmilodon1]

this movie actually performed better in China but underperformed in the US because more people wanted to see Grown Ups 2 in theaters. This "win" was so impactful for Sony they decided to make lightning strike twice when they released "Blended" opposite of X-Men Days of Future Past.

[@thomasffrench3639]

May I recommend Getter Robo manga? It is pretty similar to this in a lot of ways, but a little more heightened with anime/manga craziness.

[@TexYT]

Of course! What is it?

[@thomasffrench3639]

@@TexYT Getter Robo manga is a mecha series that started in the 70s (one of the OGs of the genre) about the fight of humanity against the Dinosaur Empire. It is initially a simple story that was promotional material for the anime running at the time, but it got a sequel in the 90s, and started to really get insane. Also created the Gainax pose and heavily inspired Gurren Lagann. Unfortunately it is one of those manga with only fan translations and no official ones aside from a spin off. Although be warned that the story is unfinished due to the death of the author, but I'm pretty sure that Getter Robo Go has a conclusion, but don't quote me on that. Order of the series is Getter Robo > Getter Rob G > Getter Rob Go > Shin Getter Robo> Getter Robo Arc

[@makatron]

Now imagine if they made a sequel, Guillermo needs to come back.

[@steelbear2063]

Have you seen what ideas he had for a sequel? That garbage was 10 times worse than the actual sequel

[@makatron]

@@steelbear2063 could you point me towards that info? 👀

[@pr2_2001]

Apparently a second movie could happen if Guillermo Del Toro comes back. If that happens Hunnam will return as well, how exciting!

[@TevyaSmolka]

It’s a shame because I loved the first pacific rim movie it was really awesome and badass in my opinion.

[@SlayerbotTheslayer]

Personally I would love to see them try again but slowly. For example a live action show series centered around a Jager engineer or even worker during the start of the Kaiju crisis would be perfect for audience and writers alike. Hell it can even retcon the original if it meant a new story could be made avoiding the mistakes of uprising.

[@Firezilla2030]

Dawg i wish they wouldnt of replaced the director, it would be a dream to see a crossover wiht the monsterverse and pacfic rim

[@towballbamford575]

Would have been sick to see a crossover with godzilla and kong and that

[@thegoofygoblin2081]

1:18 HE'S ME BRO

[@DoomSlayer-k46]

4:24 jipsy danger doing half T pose was the actual reason of explosion because only full T poses can muster up the energy required to withstand the power

[@denniskristos3800]

What happened with Universal as far as Guillermo del Toro and Zakk Penn's "Pacific Rim 2: Maelstrom" script was concerned was Universal had budgetary concerns overt it. They ordered it to an overhaul and didn't secure the sound stages in Toronto two weeks before it was to go camera. Del Toro and Penn attempted to address the distributor's concerns with a pair of re-writes when Universal pulled the film off their release schedule. Wanda may have wanted the film to shoot in China, true enough, but by the time Universal made its decision, the window for del Toro to helm the picture had lapsed and he walked, moving on onto prepping "The Shape Of Water" since he contractually obligated to do so. Incidentally, this was the third time Universal screwed over del Toro over film budgets ("Hellboy III"" first, "At The Mountains Of Madness" , touted as an R rated flick starring Tom Cruise, second and "PR: Maelstrom"). Several months later, enter John Boyega and his production partner's company and Steven S DeKnight with their revamped version of Maelstrom's script and "PR 2" was back on the boards. Universal botched its marketing campaign from the get-go, by sequentially progressing to reveal the film's strongest visual effects scenes in the trailers and sneak peek clips. Aside from die-hard fans, why should the general audience of movie goers show up and see it in theatres when the movie's best parts had been spoiled.., well before its release.

[@GypsyDanger2000]

Idk about you guys but I'm still waiting on this second movie everyone is talking about.

[@hiair]

You know why Pacific Rim's sequel failed? Because they "Godzilla x kong frozen empirized" it. I don't get why there is a double standard in the fandom towards judging that other movie. Is worse of a sequel than this one. Why they hate sequels that don't live up to the original standards, like Pacific Rim 2, Batman & Robin, the Star Wars prequels, any Transformers and Fast and Furious for being dumb, childlish, unrealistic, style over substance, an insult to the audience's intelligence, franchise killers but praise Godzilla x Kong Frozen Empire for being all that? Didn't we learn that movies can be intelligent and entertainment at the same time? Why you lowered your standards overnight? "DUMB" does not equals "FUN". Pacific Rim was intelligent and espectacular, it deserved a lot better, so did Godzilla 2014.

[@sadaderlangga17]

We could have had an amazing prequel story showcasing the war before Jaeger came around. We could have a TV Show like Pacific Rim: Black to see how other countries fare in the Kaiju Wars. WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN SO MUCH MORE

[@Lazidiz]

You should also cover the Animation versions of PACIFIC RIM

[@ChristianJay-e5b]

I believe that if Original Pacific Rim is release today it will be a huge hit.

[@ryan25196]

MY GOAT DROPPED A VIDEO ON A MOVIE THAT NEVER CAME OUT WHAT A LEGEND❗❗❗❗❗

[@BzCoffin1663]

The main difference you feel is like the first movie just goes hard af and you just get a dopamine rush everytime a Yeager hit a kaiju with a big punch, in the second movie it’s the opposite, it makes you feel stupid for watching it and the cheesy one liners are just embarrassing

[@dionysisnance4204]

Gipsy danger in favorite Jagger.

[@TexYT]

Gypsy Danger: 😤 Gypsy Avenger: 🤢

[@pradeepdungdung4379]

I honestly can't remember the name of Jaegers in second film cause they were just that dumb

[@MCRBLXPlayer]

​@pradeepdungdung4379 All I know is gipsy avenger.

[@kde09]

Who thinks they should make a few movies like this in the monsterverse, maybe with the main one as jet jaguar

[@palerider1137]

I honestly wish we got Del Toro to do GvK over Wingard where Del Toro gets Kaiju movies Wingard just feels like he scrolled through a MonsterVerse subreddit and paid attention to the posts demanding pure monster action and want nothing to do with humans

[@lolstuffenjoy9880]

im worried the monsterverse is slowly going down the pacific rim path. everything you said about uprising about lost scale, not feeling like its connected to the world of pacific rim 1 and the cinematography and lightweight of the jaegars is what the current adam wingard godzilla and king kong movies have felt like for me. except people are responding to those movies positively whereas uprising was slammed hard for the same things. i dont understand why

[@Theo-bk6qj]

scale was never an issue in the Godzilla franchise. Showa Era Godzilla for example seems to be an inspiration for Monsterverse in terms of the monster fight scene. Unlike Pacific Rim, Monsterverse is much more consistent in terms of their own key elements (some social commentary a bit similar to the old movies like environmentalism, anti-war message etc...) while Pacific Rim 2 is basically like Michael Bay's Transformer but without the grittiness and the intense action scenes (which Pacific Rim 1 manage to achieve in its own style).

[@Kaiju-bm4ts]

Godzilla's franchise goes back and forth so much with weight and scale it hardly matters anymore, fans can take it or leave at this point. PR is a IP that has less variety than godzilla and only works if you're mimicking the first film. Meanwhile godzilla works regardless of how you use him. People slam uprising cause it goes against what the first movie did. People don't slam godzilla for doing X Y and Z cause it doesn't go against anything he does most of the time.

[@theamazingwebhead6453]

There’s a good reason the scale is lost with Godzilla, it’s because most Godzilla movies now, Godzilla and the other Kaiju are around other Kaiju more often, we don’t get the human POV of slow, heavy movements because we’re not looking at the pov of other humans now, we’re following the Kaiju for the most part, which are the same size, we still know they’re big, but it’s way more action packed now because we’re following the Kaiju with other Kaiju. And also what the other guy says, with Godzilla, it doesn’t really matter, cuz Godzilla always goes back and forth and sideways and all of that, nothing you do with him is really out there because of how he’s been used in a variety of different ways

[@dagoodboy6424]

First movie was just awsome. And the main theme slaps

[@squibbles9887]

I think they could still do well with it. Just because the sequel that theoretically exists did bad, doesn't mean they can't just retcon it or do a prequel which i think a lot of people would like

[@anubusx]

This film and Independance Day are so alike.

[@oshwaflz]

i like how the wiki has multiple pages with 3 seperate sub pages (og movie, 2nd movie, inconsistencies)

[@rampagoetech7024]

still waiting for Pacific Rim 2

[@ghost-taskforce141-gr4ty]

what i kind of want to see if they continue pacific rim is a past one of the beginning of like the mark 1s or seeing what gipsy did before its battle with knife head or knowing the old jeagers and how they feel like romeo blue or tacit ronin and how they fought and how they ended up and the jaeger decommission sight that is what would bring me back to pacific rim and if they do it right too

[@exoticnoodles4740]

It's worthy to note though that the animated series Pacific Rim: The Black did pretty well from what I've heard, fans liked it, though it's basically just that. Fanservice. It didn't do too well when it came to attracting new people to the franchise however.

[@venm766]

Imagine a universe where we got pacific rim , kong and godzilla

[@TheRealRiptide01]

“one of” nah, THE best kaiju movie ever made. PERIOD.

[@chipsahoyboy5407]

For me to summarize the issues with screen play, the first was good because you had that anticipation for every movement and could never be certain if that jab or hook or sword would reach the kaiju in time for it to count. Uprising made everything far too quick and fluid, and now the robotic flaws were lacking, removing that anticipation for the slowness of everything, and that’s what made the first so great. Anticipation

[@centuriongirlw5822]

If you want cool Kaiju, get into the anime/manga Kaiju no8

[@KuruttaSeibishi]

Pacific rim prequel with the mark 1 jaegers

[@Raiden-si4ru]

It could've been a great franchise, too bad they never made a sequel... 😔