Pacific Rim Uprising - I'm Not Mad, Just Disappointed. Also Mad.

Pacific Rim 2 is a giant toy commercial. That's definitely more anime-authentic than most movies... but not in a good way. Let's tear apart this dull, disjointed disaster of a sequel.
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[@JurassicLion2049]

Killing off Mako Mori was the biggest dumbest decision in the history of dumbest decisions.

[@sandesh787]

Jurassic Lion killing Mako and making Newt the bad guy completely and utterly ruined this movie for me. The concepts and ideas are interesting and could definitely be done right but at best the execution was bad (in Newts case) and at worst it was downright insulting (in Makos case). I really hope they somehow invalidate this movies inclusion with the canon and make a good sequel. Or just invalidate uprising, the first one was great just as a stand-alone film.

[@TheToaprimezilla]

I don't know why this film has a lot of hate because I'm one of the few people who likes it. I can understand that they didn't get all the old actors from the first film to reprise their roles like Raleigh but that's probably because the actor would want lots of money to come back. Like in the MCU the actors who played Rhodey and Bruce Banner in their debut were later replaced by different actors because the old actors wanted more money and yet nobody complains about them now. The other issue people have is the CGI saying it looks bad but the first movie was always in shown in the dark but if it was shown more during the day you wouldn't complain. The next issue people have is how the jaegers don't have height to them and how you can't feel their hits like in the first film but you also have to remember that these are Mark 5 to 7 Jaegers and they're more advanced than the Mark 1 to 4 jaegers. They're going to rebuild old jaegers to fight against newer kaiju that might have the advantage in battle. So they made newer models to keep up. And there's the issue that they look the same. I beg to differ, they look completely different to me. And people complain that kids are the ones piloting the jaegers. Are you serious I see nothing wrong with that, we've seen it done in hundreds of anime so why are you complaining now. The next issue is Stacker's son who was never mentioned in the first film. Maybe he was never mentioned was because his father probably disowned him after trying to pilot a jaeger by himself and failed. Next issue was killing off Mako and yes I will agree with that but remember what I said about actors needing money but it did serve as a good motivation for Jake to become a pilot and save the world. The next biggest issue was the kaiju were always heading for Mt. Fuji. Remember what Newton said in the first film the Precursors sent the Kaiju to attack cities to soften them up and then send the bigger threats. They were most likely trying to eliminate any threats that would interfere with their plans to take over the earth. The Kaiju's position of where they were at the time just happen to be towards the direction of Mt. Fuji.

[@WitnessedMe]

@The Toaprimezilla. If you really like this sequel then, you didn’t watch the first (at least the essence of it). -The first one was set in night but not to the point that it was very dark, the city had lights that gave it the “hong kong” vibe and most fights were done in seas or underwater making the setting realistically dark. But as I said, not too dark unlike DC movies. -There’s a reason why a lot of people don’t like the sequel’s fluid and agile choreographies. The first film genuinely put emphasis on scale and weight to everything. You just can’t get that feeling in uprising. There are shots taken below the robots to show how big they are but it doesn’t work when they move very fast and seem airy...just makes the angle pointless. And it’s still not a reason enough that jaegers are Marks V-VII, since they already had a basis from the previous ones. The result looks like a high-budget power rangers movie (which shouldn’t have been if they implemented the scale). -Teens work in anime as protagonists but it is plain cringe and irritating to see in real life (as the movie is portrayed as such; realistic) -I agree with your point about Finn being disowned by Striker because of reckless behavior as to why he wasn’t mentioned or hinted at to exist in the first film and I’ll be connecting this with your next point about Mako dying. Screenwriters just killed one of the main characters in PR. Mako was basically a legend during the 10-year skip but to serve as “motivation” for Finn by dying in a helicopter crash and being all okay about it in the next scene was brilliant *sarcasm. It would’ve been better if Mako was still a pilot and Finn being co-pilot. Since they see each others memories’ then maybe they writers could have made a good story out of that. To let us connect to them, understand what they want to achieve. A boatload of reasons to make Finn realize the bigger picture and maybe then in a fight against a kaiju or drone, Mako would have a decent death. -The thing about Mt. Fuji being the sole purpose of the precursors is basically plot armor at this point so no arguments about that. As Jeff said, this is a good stand alone movie but for a sequel, this is garbage. Del Toro specifically made the first Pacific Rim to not be just another mecha-kaiju film. Yes, inspired from those themes, but to be a genre of its own. So pointing out and comparing this to an anime was an insult to begin with. Have a good day.

[@TheToaprimezilla]

Meikyo Shissui Yes I have seen the first one. I think the newer machines worked because it shows how far humanity has improved. They’re better prepared for new kaiju threats. They made them faster and are more agile. You expect them to use slow heavy moving machines against the mega kaiju. So if you’re telling me that if there’s a live action gundam or evengelion movie with kids being the pilots it won’t work. Thanks for agreeing with on that too. But yes I still agree it was stupid to kill off Mako but it helped Jake step out of being criminal. Thanks again about Mt. Fuji. But I’m still looking forward to a 3rd film.

[@krisnabayu4134]

@@TheToaprimezilla i see what u did, u just going from one to another video about pacific rim uprising critics and paste your long story unbelievable brilliant genius argument. despite of the other comment explaining as much as they can to you, the argument just like passing trough your head, and never accept them. i see u on every single PRU critics video. u just making other people want to debate with you, with your brilliant explanation, then never accept other argument, especially about how you argue about the sense of scale and feel of weight, and you just dont get it. thats it, i win, bye bye...

[@usrunodnal]

Pacific Rim didn't need to be a franchise. It was fine just being a love letter to mecha and kaiju.

[@LegendaryCrystal609]

Dale Ursu make anything successful in Hollywood and its becoming a franchise with or without you (kinda like terminator, it was done after the second, but then they ran it into the ground)

[@MrLewisTan]

It can be a franchise. Just needs better direction. Like they could have done a movie all about that first keiju and the development of the Yeager program. Or pentacosts military career and his Yeager pilot missions. Instead they went with a senario where the events of the first movie had no real effect and these massive bigger than life robots, instead of being truly unique, are mass produced.

[@SushiReversed]

But it does though, because money.

[@guy.animations2935]

Ya

[@TheToaprimezilla]

I don't know why this film has a lot of hate because I'm one of the few people who likes it. I can understand that they didn't get all the old actors from the first film to reprise their roles like Raleigh but that's probably because the actor would want lots of money to come back. Like in the MCU the actors who played Rhodey and Bruce Banner in their debut were later replaced by different actors because the old actors wanted more money and yet nobody complains about them now. The other issue people have is the CGI saying it looks bad but the first movie was always in shown in the dark but if it was shown more during the day you wouldn't complain. The next issue people have is how the jaegers don't have height to them and how you can't feel their hits like in the first film but you also have to remember that these are Mark 5 to 7 Jaegers and they're more advanced than the Mark 1 to 4 jaegers. They're going to rebuild old jaegers to fight against newer kaiju that might have the advantage in battle. So they made newer models to keep up. And there's the issue that they look the same. I beg to differ, they look completely different to me. And people complain that kids are the ones piloting the jaegers. Are you serious I see nothing wrong with that, we've seen it done in hundreds of anime so why are you complaining now. The next issue is Stacker's son who was never mentioned in the first film. Maybe he was never mentioned was because his father probably disowned him after trying to pilot a jaeger by himself and failed. Next issue was killing off Mako and yes I will agree with that but remember what I said about actors needing money but it did serve as a good motivation for Jake to become a pilot and save the world. The next biggest issue was the kaiju were always heading for Mt. Fuji. Remember what Newton said in the first film the Precursors sent the Kaiju to attack cities to soften them up and then send the bigger threats. They were most likely trying to eliminate any threats that would interfere with their plans to take over the earth. The Kaiju's position of where they were at the time just happen to be towards the direction of Mt. Fuji.

[@MisterXeolan]

Also another thing that got undermined in the sequel. In the first movie, they were trying to keep property damage to a minimum, you can even see it when Gipsy steps over a bridge, but mostly with the jaegers fighting in the sea to avoid collateral damage. But then in the sequel, Saber Athena just slices up building for no reason as it charges towards the Kaiju... like.... why...

[@vibraniumshield7383]

Um, uprising's pilots are amateurs and they don't even have a commanding officer at this point like Stacker in the first film. Context.

[@cartoonnetworkdisneyxdsupe6864]

Vibranium Shield Still, they were never at least kind of trained to avoid property damage? I get that everyone was evacuated but that doesn’t mean it’s ok to level the whole city because it looks “cool” in massive quotations.

[@themarkktv]

Vibranium Shield ok how about fully trained and professional pilots of Gipsy Marvel reference literally throw buildings at a monster?

[@robpegler6545]

@@cartoonnetworkdisneyxdsupe6864 That was one thing that made me roll my eyes while watching this film: when they tell the pilots that the entire city's been evacuated prior to the fight. I mean, really? They figured out where the three kaiju were heading, scrambled to deploy the jaegers, and in the time it took them to get there they'd managed to completely evacuate a city of 13 million people? In fact, the way it's delivered as a throw-away line makes me think it probably wasn't even in the early cut of the film. They were so concerned with the over-the-top spectacle of giant robots throwing giant monsters through giant buildings that it never even occurred to them that the audience might worry about the people IN the buildings, and it wasn't until later that they tossed that line in to excuse it.

[@dantefromdevilmaycry9857]

@@robpegler6545 It wasn't actually completely evacuated, in the movie you can see Japanese people getting stomped when the Kaiju's arrived in Japan..

[@CeltCanCook]

I was a part of the test-audience for this movie 6 months ago. I tried to give them as much feedback as possible, writing paragraphs on the little paper they gave me with all that the movie was doing wrong, and how it screwed up the fun of the original. I even told them it was "Worse than Independence Day 2," since it did all the same things as ID4:2, but had the chance to learn from those mistakes...and chose not to. I was laughing SO HARD in the audience at the wrong moments...and there were studio execs behind me glowering at me for mocking their movie. Whoops!

[@KoeSeer]

6 months isn't an enough time to change the plot of a movie. All they could do to fix are probably the visuals and CGI. But not the actors, plot, stories, setting, etc etc. on the plus side, you knew this will be shit 6 months before release.

[@alexandresobreiramartins9461]

Then why have test audiences at all? Hollywood execs are a special brand of stupid, aren't they?

[@sultanaljuhani1571]

@@alexandresobreiramartins9461 I think that because they would know how to market the movie

[@TheToaprimezilla]

I don't know why this film has a lot of hate because I'm one of the few people who likes it. I can understand that they didn't get all the old actors from the first film to reprise their roles like Raleigh but that's probably because the actor would want lots of money to come back. Like in the MCU the actors who played Rhodey and Bruce Banner in their debut were later replaced by different actors because the old actors wanted more money and yet nobody complains about them now. The other issue people have is the CGI saying it looks bad but the first movie was always in shown in the dark but if it was shown more during the day you wouldn't complain. The next issue people have is how the jaegers don't have height to them and how you can't feel their hits like in the first film but you also have to remember that these are Mark 5 to 7 Jaegers and they're more advanced than the Mark 1 to 4 jaegers. They're going to rebuild old jaegers to fight against newer kaiju that might have the advantage in battle. So they made newer models to keep up. And there's the issue that they look the same. I beg to differ, they look completely different to me. And people complain that kids are the ones piloting the jaegers. Are you serious I see nothing wrong with that, we've seen it done in hundreds of anime so why are you complaining now. The next issue is Stacker's son who was never mentioned in the first film. Maybe he was never mentioned was because his father probably disowned him after trying to pilot a jaeger by himself and failed. Next issue was killing off Mako and yes I will agree with that but remember what I said about actors needing money but it did serve as a good motivation for Jake to become a pilot and save the world. The next biggest issue was the kaiju were always heading for Mt. Fuji. Remember what Newton said in the first film the Precursors sent the Kaiju to attack cities to soften them up and then send the bigger threats. They were most likely trying to eliminate any threats that would interfere with their plans to take over the earth. The Kaiju's position of where they were at the time just happen to be towards the direction of Mt. Fuji.

[@harronus7758]

TheToaprimezilla I think when people are complaining about the weight is how every single punch or attack thrown feels too weightless. Drawing back to the first movie, there’s clearly more emphasis on these machines pushing a huge amount of tons with each blow, the wind-up shots actually make you feel like there’s resistance such as wind, gravity, friction. It all adds to a satisfying result once the blow is landed. The sequel makes it seem like all the physics shown beautifully in the first movie were scrapped for more flashy nimble Jeagers, and I get the whole advancement in technology can help offset some downsides when it comes to practicality but the weight should remain relatively the same. Mass just doesn’t disappear from a heavy object no matter how many new flashy attachments have been added onto it. All the stunts (like the scene where a jeager does a literal backflip off the Kaiju) being performed would require tremendous amounts of effort if it were grounded in reality like the first film. Not to mention, completely unnecessary. Point being alot of the action is overtly flashy to appeal to a younger audience, it’s something you’d see in a power rangers episode if anything. Just dudes running around in light suits. It’s something i and alot of previous fans dislike about this sequel.

[@revnant45]

As far as I'm concerned, Uprising doesn't exist

[@yeshwantth]

and there is no episode 8

[@jonathangarcia4310]

whats Pacific Rim Uprising?

[@dantefromdevilmaycry9857]

@@jonathangarcia4310 it's Universal's failed attempt to ripoff the Gem that is Del Toro's Pacific Rim

[@healthya7975]

Guess it caused an uprising in another thing

[@Toria._.]

It dose not exist in my mind 🙄

[@ImInLoveWithBulla]

Can Hollywood please stop making movies with the core message of “adults are useless, the only people who can save the world are teenagers”? If teens were really given that much power and responsibility, it would play out less like Teen Titans and more like the “Charlie X” episode from the original Star Trek series.

[@xxgirl101xx]

The problem is that I don’t mind the teens saving the world plot when it’s used as a major theme. Like, the point is that the older generation is screwing over the younger generation by abusing them or placing adult responsibilities on them. And you can see that what the adults are doing either on purpose or through neglect is harming these children who, while capable people, are still being deprived of childhood and are being hurt by these responsibilities that should not be theirs. But that’s not Uprising. Uprising is about hyper competent teens whose trauma is never dealt with or even acknowledged and the fact that the adults are doing anything or are capable of doing anything is never addressed. No bitterness that they’ve been forced to do an adult’s job.

[@anxiousearth680]

@steelhound duncan Not really. There are many kids in anime. But these kids treat their situation seriously and don't make jokes about life and death situations. They struggle and fail just as adults do. The Old guys are usually much more powerful and experienced.

[@DanielLopez-ob9jz]

@steelhound duncan that isnt the message of most anime, most anime never really say that adults are useless or that's almost never the message conveyed because japan is has a huge respect your elders type thing in there culture.

[@aquamarineancientsoul7893]

Am I the only one who is getting tired of teenage geniuses who build massive stuff and save the world,? I am a teen myself and yet I prefer adult and seasoned heroes. Teen geniuses are getting boring to me Its just an opinion tho.

[@Paperfiasco]

I don't know if they were specifically trying to tap the Japanese market - but young heroes by far and away are much more popular there (there are older heroes of course, but the overwhelming majority are young teens). It's why Super Hero movies, no matter how popular they are all over the world, never quite stay on the top in Japan... the second any of their Shonen heroes get a film at the same time, it will always take them off the top.

[@Gwenobbie]

Yeah right? Or at least imagine a teen hero conscious of his/her limitations and lack of experience, supported by a team of baddass veterans who need him for some reason, trying to train him/her the best they can, while feeling guilty for needing a kid they'de rather just protect because they're acutely aware of the dangers and shit... Imagine the potential relationships and stuff, the evolution, the conflict, the teamwork, the growth, that would be awesome. But no, teen saves the day. Yay.

[@darkshark5040]

eh i mean a teen hero is inexperienced and leaves more room for improvement. when you write a story you want your character to grow. tho an adult can have plenty of room to grow too i think the flaws usually come across more apparent in a teen because they're young

[@eclairtleqaq4758]

@@Gwenobbie I mean, that was kind of true in Evangelion. Shinji isn't the most ignorant of his fear and weaknesses, per se.

[@spookshankaman1038]

Don't watch dr. Stone

[@ThePeregrinestar]

Pacific Rim Uprising just made me appreciate the first movie more.

[@elievers1634]

Yay

[@YukaAkemi]

I watched uprising and immediately rewatched the 1st movie bc I missed it so much, and uprising was just so disappointing

[@phothewin6019]

Pacific Rim: A love letter to mecha and giant monsters - a passion project Pacific Rim Uprising: A commercial project - I feel like this is why Guillermo left the project. The execs told him they wanted it to go this more commercial route (especially given how the first film didn't make a lot of money).

[@MrKynzer]

Sauce of your profile image pls sir

[@jorgevazquez1197]

Shame on those executives for wanting to be profitable!

[@stevietonche]

makes sense

[@SonicSP]

Duwang Is Unbreakable What, it made a lot of money. Failed in the US but overseas made up for it.

[@Matrim42]

SonicSP it made about double its budget. Once you factor in marketing costs it didn't do great for a Hollywood blockbuster. It certainly didn't lose money, but it underperformed.

[@vustvaleo8068]

Del Toro needs to return to the franchise, Uprising feels like a cheap knock-off than a true sequel.

[@gabriellesapeg4087]

Vust Valeo Uprising was a disgrace and the equivalent of taking a big dump on the first one.

[@twitchylance117]

But will there be a sequel to Uprising tho'... I feel like this movie won't earn as much money cause there reason that the first one had a sequel is because of their partnership with the Chinese, now they don't have that strong partnership anymore.

[@guyclykos]

They just need to delete Pacific Rim Uprising outright.

[@king_big_pp]

Nah, just let him go off and make more weird stuff. Not everything needs to be a fucking franchise. Sometimes there can be just one good movie and we leave it at that.

[@Tamaki742]

You mean... Atlantic Rim? _Kill me._

[@pakornwattanavrangkul2550]

Unique looks for each Jaeger huh, compared to the last movie all of the new ones just look like the same base mech with different amounts of armor strapped on. What happened to the unique looking Jaegers like Cherno Alpha or even the more obscure ones like tacit ronin or romeo blue. Watching this feels like im just watching bigger transformers, almost all sense of scale is gone as well as weight. Actually with the transformers reference, isnt the plot to this movie just a copy of Transformers 4 age of extinction? With the original robots being replaced by a the mech equivalent of a clone hive mind which then gets hijacked by the villan. The company which also produced the new mechs also have a factory in china with (what looks like) the same actress as the factory owner. Edit: Shit, I actually guessed the plot without seeing it.

[@joshua_prime3743]

Holly shit

[@ZEN-oq4og]

But did u guys see a giant laiju head at 10:24

[@InsufficientGravitas]

its like they made a mood board and had tons of stuff from the transformers franchise and just forgot to include the originals.

[@theminerwithin9316]

Extremely late, but that just tells you how cliche the plot is.

[@lugbzurg8987]

I was having apprehensive feelings when I saw trailer footage showing jaegers zippin' and flippin' around ridiculously-fast, as if they were completely weightless, as well as casually pulling swords out like it was cool and normal. Since some people still don't get it to the point that "How it Should Have Ended" made a badly-misinformed video out of the misconception, I'll bring it up. The reason that sword in the original Pacific Rim was only used once, despite being effectively the most effective weapon in killing the kaiju, is because it was already established that kaiju blood is unfathomably-toxic, allowing for the spilled blood of a kaiju to be capable of exterminating entire eco systems. As such, the sword is a last-ditch emergency weapon. This is why the jaegers are designed in such a way as to bludgeon kaiju to death, rather than piercing and slashing at them. They need to avoid blood spill as much as possible. Fighting so recklessly as to cause the kaiju to bleed in every battle could destroy the very planet (via toxic evisceration) that they're fighting to protect in the first place. That's why the sword was only used once.

[@TheLyokoWarriors]

It's both. Mako equipped Gypsy with a pair of swords during the repair and retrofit. It's why Mako brought it up when Otachi airlifted them. Raleigh didn't know about them until then.

[@yasulong]

I would have agreed with your explain, if not for the proof against it already on screen: Crimson Typhoon. Gypsy and Eureka's sword can be excused if it was used as finish blow, but the so-called Thunderclasp formation would make Kaiju's blood raining like tropical hurricane wherever they fight. Maybe it meant as a jab to China's environment policy, it still invalidate your explain entirely. And let not forget fan-favorite's (at least my) Sir-Not-Appeared-In-This-Movie Tacit Ronin.

[@savagecabbagetnt1521]

Lugbzurg wow... Thanks for that I actually didn’t know that:D

[@muntu1221]

@@yasulong Striker's blades cauterize wounds, the first Jaegers were kind of trash in multiple ways because their original purpose was specifically to avoid the nuclear option, and Crimson Typhoon was made when Kaiju became extremely frequent.

[@samwai3762]

ummmm, wrong video bro

[@maddie9602]

I was a bit "meh" about the idea of a Pacific Rim sequel from the time I heard it announced. I loved the first movie, but its story was pretty definitively finished. Some films are set up in a way that, even after the first story is told, there's more you can do with the world and characters -- Indiana Jones could still go on adventures even after the ark episode ended, it wasn't hard to find an excuse for John Wick to take up ass-kicking again, etc. -- but Pacific Rim is one of those films that ends with "the war is over, everyone's safe, we can all go home and live happily ever after now." A sequel kind of ruins that ending.

[@yinyang2971]

aegideus i thought a sequal would focus on either the aftermath of having giant robots and no monsters to fight so people would use them in wars. or humans creating their on kaijus to replace jaegers and a kaiju cult would be like the main focus

[@Marcelis]

I felt the same way about 300.

[@echotheworld8686]

Where were you when this "film" was being written 😭

[@nwblader6231]

I was hoping the movie would focus on the creators of the Kaiju because I feel there is a lot of story potential there. Like why do they invade worlds, if it is because their world is dying why? Are the Kaijus natural or bio engineered weapons etc.

[@FilmsYouHate]

Dear Hollywood Producers, Stop putting teenagers in your films, like you're some Percy Jackson ripoff. Just don't.

[@vibraniumshield7383]

Percy Jackson is the teenage character that comes to mind?

[@FilmsYouHate]

Vibranium Shield I was thinking bout Percy Jackson that day. Also, Pacific Rim.

[@BlackTempleGaurdian]

Percy Jackson? It was clearly a NGE homage.

[@yaz0333]

Can't agree more, please.

[@mgc9965]

Well There's more than enough teenage mecha pilots in anime so...

[@hydroaegis6658]

The original walked a fine line between cool movements and realistic looking physics which this movie throws out the window.

[@bullymaguireneedsyourprimo6581]

I feel awful for John Boyega, he's a great actor who is always assigned to the worst characters (The last star wars sequels, this movie, etc)

[@M2ofEMMM]

I remember so many people, self included, being excited at the words "John Boyega is going to star in a Pacific Rim sequel." He keeps getting cast in these projects that sound amazing at first and then they just stumble and fall on their faces. It's a massive damn shame.

[@omgcandy16Kimicari0]

What bothered me about the script is how morally questionable it was in establishing fight scenes. Maybe it was mildly unreasonable to believe coastal Hong Kong could evacuate in a few hours in the first movie, but Uprising doesn't even attempt to dwell on or justify its civilian population.

[@garrettgibbons]

omgcandy16Kimicari0 they evacuated Tokyo and it was made clear several times that the city was empty before they started fighting. The movie went out of its way to demonstrate that nobody was there.

[@omgcandy16Kimicari0]

Not sure if you missed the numerous scenes of civilians fleeing, but Tokyo was in no way shape or form evacuated by the time the Teen Squad got there. Doesn't help that we got a scene of a kaiju foot stomping on the ground where an evac tube was a second earlier, and I'm sure that burrowing kaiju did no favors for any underground shelters.

[@vibraniumshield7383]

now we're just nitpicking too much...

[@matumetal6114]

so lesson is: dont let another director touch a guillermo del toro masterpiece

[@jbark678]

hikikomatthew ^This

[@brucebanana4486]

hikikomatthew this going happen again with the Hellboy reboot.

[@brian.jrmontoya3227]

Bruce Banana but that isn’t Del Toros creation. Del Toro’s movies, while good, we’re kinda unfaithful adaptations to the original comic.

[@SinHurr]

That's correct.

[@brucebanana4486]

Brian. Jr Montoya yeah I know del Toro didn't make Hellboy, but I want Hellboy 3 then the reboot.

[@StrunDoNhor]

The first Pacific Rim was a perfectly good, summer action movie that had enough heart in the writing and characters to make repeat viewings an absolute joy. Raleigh's and Mako's relationship felt very genuine and they would've made for one hell of a power couple in Uprising, if given the chance. It was about as perfect of a "summer action flick" as you could get, and was a fantastic entry point into the Mecha and Kaiju genres. It's beyond depressing to see it stripped of what made it so likable, and be reduced to a convoluted mess of a film made solely to sell toys.

[@ninjaninjanesisninja]

If they were trying to make the audience remember the names of each Jaeger, they did a shit job. During the climax, I was literally sitting there trying to figure out who was who...

[@joshua_prime3743]

I don't even know who's the pilots of the orange bot

[@johnP0908]

That's how bad a movie is. they're forgettable.

[@abhirao8582]

The first Pacific Rim is one of my favourite films of all time. I love pretty much everything about it. I love the fights, the characters and the big world Del Toro made. I want to see more from this world and it's disappointing to hear Uprising has failed.

[@NoExplosionsMcgee]

This is what happens when you completely ditch Guillermo del Toro, his talented creative studio and his original idea and script for a sequel to the first Pacific Rim movie(Pacific Rim II: Maelstrom) ALL because a bunch of greedy studios wouldn't stop arguing with each other over who should take credit for the success of Jurassic World. You end up with a god awful low effort sequel that is devoid of any love,care or creativity that only exists just to cash in on the popularity of the first film and to sell toys.

[@starleov]

so true

[@vibraniumshield7383]

Guillermo del Toro wasn't ditched, he still was involved, just indirectly. I'd say he ditched the franchise if anything...

[@MadameDeForklift]

My boyfriend and I basically agreed that this story would've succeeded had it been either A) A short live-action series or B) at least two separate movies. There were so many good ideas in here, with a lot of potential! However, in combining them all into one massive story, their viability and effectiveness actually decreased. In the first movie, we learn about the Kaiju black market, and how that affects human society. In the first twenty minutes of this film, Jake narrates at us about the JAEGER black market. This concept is fascinating, and the introduction of Amara as a capable mechanic, engineer and pilot with a working Jaeger is positively fuckin RIPE with story potential. Yet, it's not used. Same with the introduction of drone pilots, Jake confronting his daddy issues, Mako's story post-PR1 (where the hell is Raleigh??? I seriously don't remember anyone mentioning ANYTHING about him???), and yes, the big twist with the villain. Ultimately, I just find it unfortunate that so much potential was wasted SO HARD

[@sainkanzaki]

I hate Jake Pentecost, he was shoehorned because Boyega wanted to be the hero in this movie. Stacker was all about family, that's why he adopted Mako, and he was close to his sister too. Stacker nor Mako never mentioned having a son/brother. Jake mentions he was part of the PPDC until a year before Stacker died. Stacker was trying to get all pilots he could when he found Raleigh because they had the new plan to destroy breach, and his son's only misstep was piloting a Jaeger alone to show off, why did Stacker never mentioned that he could be an option to pilot , I mean he would be drift compatible with Mako. Or back up to pilot Gipsy with Stacker in case they don't find more pilots. And Jake never appeared in Mako's memories in the first one, because, he didn't exist. They just wanted to use Pentecost character to not explain anything about Jake, but Jake is just a fanfiction self-insert. I liked Boyega, but hate what he did in Uprising with Stacker and Mako. :(

[@TheLyokoWarriors]

Which brings up another problem: where was Lambert in the first film? I haven't seen Uprising but have read the prequel novel and in it, it is constantly mentioned how Lambert was angry and depressed about Jake leaving the PPDC. Why wasn't Lambert one of Raleigh's potential partners/back-up? The film made a case of pointing out that the war was causing the numbers of Jaegers and pilots to dwindle as support was pulled from it. Yet, they had at least one perfect good-to-go pilot on standby that was never mentioned or seen in the first film? Of course, this is because Lambert didn't exist in the world of the first film, just like Jake. Also, I wouldn't put the blame on Boyega about Jake being Stacker's kid. I would put that on the writers/studio/producers. They wanted Boyega because Star Wars made him a big name and since Pentecost was one of the things people enjoyed from the first one, they tried to capture that same excitement by making Jake his son, continuity be damned.

[@vibraniumshield7383]

There were tons of other possible co-pilots for Raleigh. Mako was just the best. Lambert's absence isn't actually an issue. Jake leaving means he has no partner to properly pilot a jaeger with. But I get what you're saying about Jake being Stacker's son. But we only get Jake's perspective on their conflict. It probably was a lot worse and Stacker and Jake stopped talking.

[@uk69uk]

There was so much retconning in this film it's not even funny.

[@cayranm]

sainkanzaki Boyega is a household name, or at least he’s growing to become one. But he most certainly does not have anywhere near the clout to force the studio to make him Pentecost’s kid. He’s an actor, brought in to perform what he’s been given. It is absolutely ridiculous, and unfair, to blame him for the way Jake Pentecost turned out beyond his performance.

[@muisverriet]

@@cayranm He's one of the producers of this movie.

[@aguywithalotofopinions412]

Del Toro should be pissed

[@moisesezequielgutierrez]

Michael Mello People need to see this comment right now

[@gabriellesapeg4087]

I hope so.

[@DisDatK9]

With this and the first Hobbit movie, I’d be fucking sick and tired of Hollywood at this point if I was him.

[@luhedi6303]

He is too chill and very sweet for that.

[@leilalopez6003]

luis hernandez You didn't get the joke?

[@aiwash2766]

You wanna know the biggest crime of this fucking movie? Not using the amazing badass theme song the first one used during the fights. Like why?! You made it use it!!!!!!

[@PixlPlayer]

Noe Hernandez I know I was so upset that wasn’t there

[@wessdabeast4290]

Instead we got a shitty pop song that would be in Alvin in the Chipmunks. And guess what? No one cares about that song because it's sooooo stupid.

[@johnP0908]

The trailer was cringy enough. but when the rap track plays in the trailer, I crumpled like a prune. I regret paying to watch this movie. should've downloaded it through a torrent instead.

[@simond6050]

And then in the kind of cool rocket scene they play lolololol song like come on why

[@nathanmahmod9025]

I hate the fact that they killed mako

[@abigailbostic2198]

I avoided all reviews of this movie so that I could form my own opinion on it when I went to see it and was honestly super super excited to see this... Wow, I have never ever felt so much sheer anger while sitting in the seats of a theater ever. I'm usually VERY forgiving of movies while I watch them and then later form established opinions once they've had time to settle but this was completely different. I literally discussed almost these same points (minus a few that I didn't notice and plus a few minor ones like the child actress's poor acting skills) with my fiance in a rant after this movie. I was absolutely livid. This movie doesn't even have any of the clever abilities and surprises the other Kaijus had! They literally just fight for a few moments with Jaegers we literally never see in action til the very end, climb up a mountain, then get killed by a pilotless husk of a Jaeger. Like....what the hell?! All the fights in the first were so memorable and badass. And they actually MEANT something; when a Jaeger is fighting, you really feel the characters inside developing, bonding, working off each other.... It's COOL when they do something badass because you feel their confidence and it's a personal victory for them. Everything is so well earned! Not only did they just kill off Mako like it didn't even fucking matter, they trivialized her entire development by being like "Hey, you know how this grown, adult woman has been suffering with PTSD her whole life which is causing her to struggle fighting in the Jaeger? Well this random ass teen with a bitchy attitude got over her family dying in like...two seconds. Also drifting is apparently the easiest fucking thing in the world to do" This film made me feel so sad and empty. And also absolutely furious.

[@vibraniumshield7383]

So not Pacific Rim good but not Transformers bad either. Somewhere in the unsatisfying middle? To be fair, Uprising had better teamwork between different jaegers than the first one. The Hong Kong plan in the first movie was all kinds of disastrous as two of the coolest mechas got fodderized while Striker and Gipsy were held back.

[@johnP0908]

I initially watched this in a theater then downloaded it after through torrent to watch it again. I was with my friends and left the theatre disappointed. I tried appreciating it so I downloaded it but to no avail. damn. Del Toro should've stayed.

[@namegoeshere5220]

It's almost like something was missing... Something with genius writing, world design, passion and love, and is so amazing he is able to make you believe the love between a woman and her fish is real and okay.

[@conradkorbol]

William Bussey and is being sued for ripping off a play and giving no credit. Hmmm I wonder what could be missing?

[@SomeRandomJackAss]

Maybe the Silent Hills thing hit him harder than we thought.

[@ispaceghost]

BadAssMutha006 fuck Konami

[@slifer875]

Plague of gripes?

[@lugbzurg8987]

Well, to be fair, I never bought into The Shape of Water's "romance" to begin with. I just never bought into the whole "Hey, person I met last week... I find you attractive! LET'S BONE!" attempt at "romance" that plagues Hollywood so badly.

[@Jeeps-ye5ct]

When I literally laughed out loud when amaras “sAd bAcKsToRy” happens and the whole family is just like “jump jump” then smush. Gone like that, you know it’s not a good backstory

[@sparkyceasar8859]

You know the sad part... After all of their trying to make remember the Jaeger's names... I dont

[@AtlasInTheWest]

“Sad people don’t sell toys!” *stares at Deku pointedly*

[@argnator]

The first Pacific Rim felt like a Western director paying sincere homage to Japanese super robots without changing very much in the way of the style that those stories captivated him. This film seems more like the standard and practiced "westernization" of something inherently Japanese, a la all those 80s and early 90s adaptations that tried to put too much "Americanism" into the subject and turned it into something else entirely. Like the Super Mario Brothers movie. They took something stylishly Japanese, and malformed into something passibly American, rather than just taking what was there and filming it in English.

[@Thoreaux]

Without agreeing or disagreeing with your point about this movie, I think that's the weirdest comparison. The only thing especially Japanese about the style of Mario Bros was that it was zany and nonsensical, and the movie adaptation's liberties were all just made-up setting details, trying to fill in for the complete absence of worldbuilding in the videogames, not to create something that was any less weird but just to build the world out of some facts that relate to one another so a plot could even exist. I don't think it as a failed adaptation has like anything to do with Pacific Rims 1 & 2.

[@trequor]

Like reverse Dark Souls. The director of that game is a huge fan of western fantasy and Dark Souls is his love letter to it

[@MakiPcr]

Okay, this has to be the weirdest criticisms of this movie, since it was clearly made for the Chinese audience and it's knee-deep into Chinese action movie aesthetics

[@Rikuo86]

Remember how fucking cool it was when Gipsy Danger used a fucking tanker as a goddamn sword!? Remember how Uprising didn't have a single moment as interesting as that? That's when I knew Uprising wasn't really worth it. Yeah I liked it as a dumb popcorn movie, but it had none of the soul that made the original so much fun and so good in the first place.

[@TheVivapinsam]

Rikuo86 Even better comparison would be Pacific Rim: "Elbow Rocket!" "ELBOW ROCKET ENGAGED!" Pacific Rim Uprising: Regular punch Like the first had the music and just all around build up while Uprising just happens.

[@theredeft5319]

Rikuo86 I'm kind of glad ready player one already took over my theaters IMAX so I didn't waste any extra money on uprising. The original Pacific Rim I saw in IMAX twice and was so damn amazing. I miss the feel of the weight of the monsters and jagers when they move and the fact that most of the fights take place in the daylight was a poor decision. It's a lot easier to believe the CGI in the dark lighting. Not to mention the cool bioluminescence is downplayed.

[@vibraniumshield7383]

Oh the first film definitely had better utilization of music. But Uprising does some things better or comparable (oh blasphemy). There was no Cherno and Crimson moment. The strongest weapons were used from the start. Speed is controversial, but it does make jaegers more effective and more easily justifies why special guns strapped to vehicles aren't as good. The elbow rocket was also able to knock back Obsidian Fury very far even with the chainsaws being used to slow down its movement. Leatherback just got turned around then retaliated pretty quickly after that. It was a weak attack that didn't even cause hit to spit up blood and had a long "charge" time. It's easy to write off the sequel as a whole since it requires little thought or effort, but I'm not going to. Since when did people start treating the first film like it was perfect?

[@TheVivapinsam]

Vibranium Shield I get where you're coming from. The first film isn't perfect and it makes more sense to use everything upfront. The whole Elbow Rocket felt a bit more realistic in the first with it's speed because it would probably need to power up for momentum similar to a Jet. I just felt more in the first one if that makes sense. I had a lot more fun compared to Uprising.

[@debroizem]

The stupidest moment is when those little drones take apart and recombine the kaiju. If those drones could so easily tear apart a kaiju in a matter of seconds with nearly no collateral damage, it means that the entire plot of the drone jaegers was pointless. Those little things can solve any kaiju attack cheaply and quickly.

[@mslaughter2821]

Agreed on every point. I enjoyed the movie, but only because I forced myself to think of it as entirely different from the original. Comparing this and the original is like comparing a McDonald's egg mcmuffin to a fancy eggs Benedict at a great restaurant. It's really a spit in the face to the first movie

[@BlueDavrial]

Wow. That's disappointing. With a Pacific Rim sequel, I could honestly tolerate making the mechs or monsters more marketable. I could tolerate the action not being as good... *because the story was the driving force of the original*. The mechs, the monsters? They were just the devices to aid the survivor's guilt story. The fact that they disregarded that and butchered it so bad in this movie just shows utter *disrespect* to the original and a lack of understanding of what made it good.

[@xmm-cf5eg]

Replacing the original cast made me say "yeah not watching this."

[@XogeiD]

A true meca story is never about the meca.

[@billcipher147]

Replacing (almost) the entire original cast is never a good idea. It'd made sense if they all died in the previous movie, but just replacing them with other character for whatever reason just doesnt make any sense. That's the problem with Uprising: It doesnt feel like a sequel but more like a (bad) spinoff.

[@dgwdgw]

A bad spinoff like JJ Abrams' re-cast "Star Trek" movies? You know what's worse than replacing all the characters in a franchise? Keeping the same characters but swapping out the actors. (Not that what PR:U did was good.)

[@stivaoblonskystan]

Honestly I thought the mech fighting in Uprising sucked as well

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

If the last movie came across like a 13 year old with talent wrote it, this comes off like a 15 year old who saw what the 13 year old did, but thinks they can do better wrote it.

[@BumbleCrumble1072]

E p i c M e m e s Cause he is a wizard

[@hithere5553]

E p i c M e m e s he feeds off of upvotes, if he skips some videos he’d starve

[@jasoncarto]

Well fucking sais

[@Healermain15]

He's brainlinked into the nerd corner of the internet.

[@wtfcrazygaming]

Tru

[@samberinger5647]

Mako’s fate in this is enough to kill any of my interest in this movie.

[@kherossilverlight8400]

I will say only one thing: When I heard about the drone jaeger, my inmediate thought was of the mass produced Evangelion. Was of Asuka's incredibly epic and tragic last stand. I was so excited... then the rest of the movie happened... and it sucked. I was so sad.

[@NRB10ful]

If Fast and the Furious, Pirates of the Caribbean, and The Land before Time have taught me anything it's that if Hollywood makes money on one good or great movie they will never let it die and we'll beat it to death with unnecessary sequels while trying to save money by hiring hack writers who don't care about the project themselves until what we once loved is because a joke and we can barely remember why we liked it at all.

[@NoExplosionsMcgee]

Yeah, It's kinda why I'm glad in retrospect that Blanderunner 2049-as amazing of a movie that it is-bombed the way it did otherwise the Blanderunner franchise would have been cinematic universe'd to hell and back by greedy studio executives and untalented hacks to the point where everyone is bloody sick of its existence. As someone who is massive fan of the both Blanderunner and 2049, I *_reeeeeally_* don't want that to happen at all to be honest.

[@Horrormaster13]

NRB10ful The same thing is with the Alien and The Terminator Franchise. Both had two very good first movies. Later they got a Sequel that was probably even better than the first movie, Aliens and Terminator 2: Judgment Day. But after those two amazing Sequels they got one crap Sequel after another.

[@Tamaki742]

In a lesser degree, the Transformers movie. The 2007 movie is very flawed, but it's a more or less decent adaptation, and compared to the other 80's - 90's nostalgia adaptation like TMNT, G.I. Joe, Alvin and The Chipmunk... Jem... Yeah, it's probably the best out of it all. But Michael Bay especially, clearly didn't try after that. Like the Prime animated series and the current comic line showed how much potential it has. Nope, Paramount and Hasbro don't care. They just care about easy money and selling kids toys goddamn it.

[@vibraniumshield7383]

Yeah, the recent Transformers movies don't even have the effort of the first 3...

[@Tamaki742]

Vibranium Shield Exactly. Until today I still don't get why they don't just bring in James Roberts as a writer. At least they stop the movies entirely, for now.

[@javelinmaster2]

This is what you get when Del toro is not the director....

[@mechajay3358]

javelinmaster2 Have they learned nothing from the Hobbit? He would have made it into a masterpiece like what Peter Jackson did with LOTR.

[@plasmaoctopus1728]

WHY WOULD THEY NOT USE DEL TORO!!! wait, is it because of that game he is involved in?

[@DarthJoshReturns]

He was busy with "The Shape of Water."

[@javelinmaster2]

Josh Sinclair and that is the good answer. That makes me question why they just didn't wait or just left it be. Plasma Octopus Well Death Stranding is most likely just a voice acting job so if that was the case then the shape of water couldn't be made also.

[@ProxyDoug]

Hellboy 3 is going to suck.

[@althds7099]

Charlie (Newt) literally said the whole plan of the Precursors when he drifted with that secondary kaiju brain alone. And no, the volcano was not the plan, earth was terraformed by humans, and the precursors wanted to eliminate the humans. Setting of the volcanos would probably make it useless for them.

[@eatatjoes6751]

Oh my God--and to think I actually wanted a sequel to the original Pacific Rim when I finally saw it on FXX. The fact that they created a Gary Stu in the form of Boyega's character and tried to make us bond with him and Girl Replacement Mako was just plain stupid.

[@ScaryBoiSupreme]

At least Mako dies in the movie. Raleigh died in a fucking book

[@electricboxers9043]

Could you explain how he died? I'd like to know

[@ScaryBoiSupreme]

Oh they write him off has having died of radiation poisoning The problem isn't that, it's that you don't have major plot points in fucking extended material.

[@electricboxers9043]

Oh man, I feel so dissapointed hearing that. Even though he was a bit forgettable I really liked Raleigh

[@kornilious]

Wait seriously?!

[@natesmodelsdoodles5403]

wait, their both dead? that does it, I'm skipping this fucker for the fanfiction.

[@brackonstudios]

Should've been a prequel with Idris Elba and the Jaegers in their younger years fighting some of the first waves. Also, I wrote how this could've gone below:

[@brackonstudios]

The movie follows Marshall from Childhood to Broken Veteran, he is one of the best pilots, so he would see a lot of stuff both on the frontline and behind the scenes. And it goes something like: The world's governments are scrambling to find these monsters' weaknesses, all while losing more and more ships, jets, and civilians. Economies are crashing, people are fleeing the coasts, society is crumbling. Eventually, one scientist comes up with the crazy idea of "making monsters of our own". The Jaeger mechs. Desperate for results of any sort, (lets be honest) Japan funds the program. Numerous prototypes fail, the world ridicules them, but eventually, one stands triumphant. The public is ecstatic, and this underdog victory opens the eyes of world leaders: *We Need Heroes.* Someone or something humanity can rally behind in both spirit and financial support. Thus mankind enters a new technological era, the "Jaeger Revolution." Every country uses these mechs as a competition, trying to out do and out smart the other teams (much like what happened in WW2 and the Cold War. Technological progress exploded), in order to become the one's who saved the human race. But soon separate competition proves to not be enough, we have to join forces. Everyone compares notes and soon, the second wave of Jaegers roll off the assembly line. Based in China, dozens of Jaegers are marching into the sea, it becomes so easy and common place it's turned into a spectator sport, with Marshall as king among the pilots, and merchandise powerhouse. (This where Raleigh explains their past state of glory at the start of the first movie.) But all things lose their luster. The world grows bored of the threat-less dinosaurs, public support starts to fall, and the Jaeger program loses funding. Being forced to downsize we become complacent. The original scientist (Father of the Jaegers) pleads them to not do this, "They'll come back stronger if we relax our presence in the sea!" but his ramblings are dismissed as someone concerned only of money slipping away. The board of directors soon removes him and puts the downsizing into motion (while setting aside one to two Jaegers for each surrounding countries, but even they are scrapped one by one.) One day, something started happening which we never even considered: The Kaijus start emerging faster, faster than ever before. We can't recover quick enough, we start loosing Jaegers left and right due to the beasts having new weapons, new features and new strategies (Flying, Splitting in Two, Violently Self-Destructing). It's like they were studying us as much as we weren't of them. More have to be built, but we are out of practice. Our Jaegers aren't just too cheap, our old models, our old heroes, aren't strong enough anymore. The few Jaegers left have to hold off the onslaught long enough for production and innovation to get back on its feet. The public's fear grows, and government funds begin to be directed towards a new project (popularized by the promise of millions of new jobs): Building a Wall. (lol) The Jaegers' role is now delegated to: 'hold them off long enough for the defense wall'. Love of pilots and mechs was still there, but not like it was. Their repeated failures ended the old days of legends like Marshall, the hotshot who matured after loosing most of his team, as well as his health, in the Kaijus' new onslaught. While the wall had promise, some held faith in the Jaegers. Refusing to place all hope in the wall, the remains of the Jaeger program started gathering what little remained of the old team of pilots and scientists. Old salts like Marshall, through the help of the Chinese government, starts a more condensed version of the Jaeger program. They have a shoestring budget, many of their people were retired, but duty calls. And there is work to do. *Cue where the first movie started off, either before Raleigh's injury, or right before his retirement to the wall.*

[@Monstrous_Delta]

This sounds like an amazing movie and is absolutely something I would watch. How did they fail to come up with such a good but simple plot? It's literally what the first movie was (simple but good plot).

[@kokofan50]

I think that plot is trying to do too much. I think a simpler plot of the first generation of jaegers heing put into service and the sacrifice the pilots.

[@brackonstudios]

+kokofan50 Well, I kinda imagined the first half of what I wrote being in montage form, much like with the first movie, and the actual story starting with the downsizing, and then the struggle of having a lack of jaegers to fight the new, and quickening, kaiju waves.

[@wwangyeoh]

They could adapt the comic into a movie, prequel movie. Also I'm really disappointed when they change the name into Uprising, I like the name Maelstorm better.

[@NeumaghAnon]

When I first saw the first trailer for this I turned to my sister and said “wow Bionicles have really gone off the rails!”

[@SophieHatterLeFay]

Geoff recommending his "how to survive a harem anime" when he talks about the forgotten potential 3 way was the best joke I've ever seen on this channel

[@txcforever]

You add uprising, reloaded, revenge, revolution, revelations and other random words like this in the movie title and it is bound to be crap.

[@buttonmasher7615]

Rewashed, Refunded, Rewound, Recorded, Recreation, Resized

[@levitatin2264]

reeeeeeeeee

[@patriziopucci9316]

I wonder if you were thinking of Matrix...naa

[@IRNStudios]

txcforever What about Kid Icarus Uprising? That game is a mastapeece

[@PokeMaster22222]

REVENGEANCE. Seriously. Perfect title for an extremely oddball game, but otherwise? t(-_-t)

[@gamelairtim]

Is "How to ruin a Franchise" a regular thing on this channel? Because it should be a regular thing on this channel.

[@tadhgknight3484]

*yes*

[@dylanorr2127]

yeah I want to see that now

[@ayers01]

Will EA be on the next segment?

[@mr.j7444]

how to ruin a franchise the 3,000 part video set on ea

[@QuartzIsAnOxide]

Are you reading this Jeff??

[@Drunken_Hamster]

My favorite part was probably Amara's mini-Jaeger and their little tactical play against November Ajax. That and the themes associated with home-built Jaegers, as well as the Mega-Kaiju were the highlights of the movie for me. Lowkey, it would've been cool if a part of the final battle or holding off the Kaiju involved a bunch of civvies and their homebuilt brawlers.

[@MARPOLO13]

I completely agree. I kept telling my friends that I rated the movie TWO ways: one as a standalone without comparing it to anything but itself, and a second time as a sequel. As a standalone I thought it wasn't that bad and actually quite enjoyable. As a sequel, I absolutely hated it. My friend sent me this video and man I felt like I was listening to myself think. Spot on dude.

[@torgan]

I remember seeing the first film and I still think that it is one of the greatest popcorn flics of all time. This is just... bland. Also one of its biggest flaws is the evangelion type jaegers, which no longer have any weight to them. The original jaegers were gods of metal and fucking lasers, with each step, laser beam and punch being a slow and deliberate action.

[@KurstKensei]

Torgan Nassar not to mention they were all unique. These just all look like a gipsy danger with different weapons. Wheres my Cherno Alpha and the jeager with 3 arms

[@torgan]

Kaiden Krueger I never understood how the triplet jaeger worked

[@drfoto2673]

Regular Jaegers had two arms and required two people to control them so for a Jaeger with three arms you'd naturally need three people to control it. I honestly don't think it's much deeper than that but that's what makes it so good IMO.

[@EionBlue]

Ironically, the unique movements of the Eva units is one of the main points of Evangelion's choreography.

[@cassyblack3346]

Torgan Nassar "Gods of metal and fucking lasers" is exactly the way I never thought to describe them but fits perfectly. Most mecha anime have them just bouncing around all the place but the Jaegers for the first time felt like something that was just really that huge and powerful. It's like Raleigh monologues about the power of them, that you feel like a force of nature that could fight a hurricane. In that movie I could believe that.

[@Chu-Raya]

It went from an epic movie with humanity's struggle, to Power Rangers in mechs.

[@thomasbraithwaite1381]

You really should do a "what's in an op" for the monty python intro on April fools.

[@nslater1388]

Glad we feel the same way about the original film! Respect!!

[@NathanSeals]

What's interesting is that John Boyega and his newly formed production company was heavily HEAVILY involved in nearly every aspect of this film. Ironically, following up one of the smartest, greatest and most unique creative minds of our time with a 'summer blockbuster' clone of his passion project would have required someone as passionate and creative to fill those shoes. I hoped Boyega was that man, but I guess I was wrong. It needed someone who could give their own interpretation of the themes of the original film, providing a fresh perspective on it's ideas and world. Maybe he was not ready for that sort of responsibility yet. Maybe he should stick to popcorn flicks for awhile. Maybe Star Wars gave him too much too soon. Who knows. Only time will tell.

[@roronoa1243]

"And Gaijin Goombah told me he likes it" Okay so it's shit, good to know

[@dangreen3868]

You should read Pacific Rim: Amara, it's a comic on webtoon about Amara, and it has beautiful artwork, solid characters, and a heartwarming message about family beyond blood, which as someone with an adopted brother I appreciate that. It definitely seems more worthwhile than the movie it was promoting.

[@aislinngraves4291]

Agreed. I love Pacific Rim and was eagerly looking forward to seeing Uprising but I walked out of the theater feeling disappointed and cheated.

[@maraschwartz6731]

When you are rewatching an old Mother's Basement video and you have to stop because a new one just came out.

[@GMM5Art]

When you are watching German Scat Porn and you have to stop because a new Geoff video comes out.

[@Wayneisboss]

What upset me the most in the movie might sound stupid, but it was actually the music. The original film had an absolutely stellar soundtrack, and the score was treated as much of an important part of Pacific Rim’s DNA as even Gipsy Danger herself. And then Uprising just...doesn’t use it. And the one or two times it tries, it felt like a bastardization of the theme and sounded just awful. Every single aspect of this film’s score was forgettable, formulaic and so uninspired that it hurt more and more as the film went on. I still think I enjoyed the movie more than you, Geoff, but I gotta admit that I was disappointed too.

[@davidlaurence6763]

That's an interesting aspect of how this film fails that I haven't seen brought up by others. Thanks for mentioning it. I'm a musician and I studied composition in college so a good soundtrack really gets me going and shitty ones can just make bad films awful.

[@CelestialDraconis]

Currently laughing at all the 12 year old idiots who brushed off my comments in the trailer video about how this movie was going to be a transformers 2.0. They defended the shit out of the movie by saying "stop judging this movie when it hasn't even released hurr durr!". I got the last laugh.

[@vibraniumshield7383]

It's actually better than the Transformers movies..........not living up to the first doesn't mean automatically falling to the depths of the Transformers franchise. The last laugh goes to Michael Bay who's making a killing off of a dead franchise he barely even cares about at this point.

[@CelestialDraconis]

That's not really saying much when transformers already has a low ass bar to surpass, lmao.

[@Mrcryptidsarereal]

Now to drink the sobering beer that reminds you that we ended up with a trash sequel

[@johnP0908]

@@Mrcryptidsarereal What sequel? I thought Uprising was a fan made movie. lmao.

[@anjasdstr]

Waiting for Pacific Rim 2, uprising is not Canon

[@elmantishrimp1689]

This movie died as soon as it was announced that daddy del Toro wasn't directing

[@NoahMonroe_]

I need more of these half-live reviews in my life. Seeing Geoff's actual angered reactions really help emphasize how much he hated this, here, and made it more fun for me to watch, as a result.

[@yofiesetiawan]

"Hey Charlie, wanna play in the sequel of Pacific Rim?" Charlie Hunnam : "Cool, i kill more Kaiju with Mako, right?" "No, you will just die in a choper crash in the first 30 minutes of the movie, and the kids will avenge you." Charlie Hunnam : "WTF!"

[@deanspanos8210]

But you have to understand that the monsters only had apple maps at the time, so of course they would get lost.

[@craxnor]

The 14 year old genius prodigy made her own jaeger. How? I hate the whole I was able to do this thing because I'm a genius. How'd she get the materials to make the jaegar, how'd she get the machinery to put it all together, how was she able to experiment with it without killing herself and no one noticing. I'm not against intelligent kids I'm against Mary Sue bullshit in order to make a character cool rather than an actual person.

[@Healermain15]

Presumably from a scrapyard and the help of a suspiciously resourceful granddad with a grouchy attitude, a frozen heart of gold, and a strange medal with a giant robot on it.

[@kayleerinehart3904]

craxnor is

[@arimathereaper249]

craxnor Stop bitching search for pacific rim : amara it's a webtoon about her and her adopted family jeez

[@fourtoozero7062]

jaime ruiz wow... I liked the movie, guess my taste is shit.

[@silverfangmoonhunter]

You guys always act like this is the first time this is happening when child characters, especially if they're the protagonist, have always been given bullshit plot armor and abilities they shouldn't have since action films marketed towards kids or teens even became a thing. And novels too. Also why does it seem like people only ever bust out the mary sue label when the character is a girl?

[@JoJoTalksTooMuch]

I kind of had a feeling Uprising was going to be hot garbage, I'm glad I didn't go before seeing this.

[@plasmaoctopus1728]

I had a feeling it wasn't going to be as good when the trailers showed teenagers as the main characters. I know its a shitty way to judge a film, but a lot of sci-fi movies with teen protagonists just tend to devolve into like what the Michael Bay Transformers movies are like, with uninteresting fight scenes and bad jokes.

[@bernardstrauss1183]

Well, anyone who wasn't mentally challenged could see this was going to be a piece of shit by just looking at the teaser trailer back then and the music they decide to use in it.

[@JuFated]

I didnt have Raleigh anymore with no real explanation and Del Toro's just a producer. That was enough warning for me.

[@lesbiantrash440]

When I watched a trailer for this movie I got a feeling like, "pls don’t do the same mistake the eva reboots did" Guess I was right

[@HeilRay]

You were all right. The signs were point to it being a soulless popcorn flick. I just didn't think after the 1st one BARELY gotby with slight hopes of a sequel thanks to China, that they'd take what was great and sequel worthy about it and turn it into fucking Transformers.

[@WeboKonAroz]

Your reenactment of the helicopter scene is a true work of art.

[@maldorov6297]

To be clear, uprising was another variation of iron man without real character development or real world sense (excluding the concept of giant robots and giant alien monsters) which was created as a means to get the interest of younger audiences for the sole purpose of commercialism. Hope the director didn't list his name... nevermind, he was dumb enough to proudly claim ownership of his giant let down of a sequel to a movie that didn't need a sequel to begin with

[@punishedcaptainfrog1993]

Pacific Rim shouldn't of ever been a franchise.Should of stayed as a cheesy love letter and introduction to the Giant Robot/Kaiju genre and that's it.

[@brucebanana4486]

Punished Captain Frog that not a problem with uprising. It was poorly executed and to many ideas aren't flash out.

[@ridwana4037]

You can write more than one love letter, you know. But you have to write the letter wholeheartedly. Don't write it with the intention of making money.

[@TheMadjake50935]

As long as it’s a love letter that I can get model kits of the robots from

[@ridwana4037]

The Great Saiyaman You want a glorified toys commercial? Because that's how you get a glorified toys commercial.

[@ridwana4037]

Theo Cambel which is why I said it has to be made wholeheartedly. That show has heart, and it was done with some thoughts put in it. The easiest example for the glorified toys commercial would be Michael Bay's Crapformer. They just put their toys, then move the camera wildly while exploding some fireworks.

[@geeks_dungeon]

Top notch animation man I loved it

[@MooseHowl]

Absolutely fantastic animation but I was very disappointed to see the animator's name wasn't even in the credits. What a slap in the face. WHEN WILL THESE BIG STUDIOS LEARN???

[@TheTundraTerror]

Better animation than what's in the movie.

[@unclaimedusername6608]

3:14 I honestly couldn't remember a single one of the PR2 bots, but I will always remember Cherno Alpha and how much bullshit it was that Cherno didn't get much time to shine. Oh Mr Thunder Formation got his big thing but cherno's crew and their really awesome costumes got gipped. Also that three-way bullshit at the end sort of soured things. Fucking WHY? It was bad enough when the Netflix commercial did it, i don't want that in my giant robot movie.

[@aegisghost]

When the hydraulic fist smashes into the Kaiju's jaw, you felt it in your face. When the four-hundred-foot tall cgi robots try to do fast-paced jiu jitsu, it just gets laughably comedic.

[@vibraniumshield7383]

To be fair, anime mechas are like uprsing jaegers......sometimes even faster and more agile. Pacific Rim always referenced animes to begin with, it's just more obvious now. Having watched Gundam series, the quicker movements aren't really a disappointment (there's much faster mechas out there). Fast mechas have been around for a while.

[@gojiracz955]

I love cherno alpha

[@Kucoz]

Like your points, well spoken. Seen other videos of yours... But then I saw Last Story on your shelf in a place of honour. Subscribed.

[@legomeaker101potato]

WE DIDN'T NEED MORE TRANSFORMERS, what we needed was a good pacific rim sequel

[@vibraniumshield7383]

We didn't get a Transformers movie.........you really going to argue this being worse than the last two messes in the series?

[@00atmsk]

An obvious cash grab is obvious

[@zillarex7416]

WhyFlySoHigh *DING*

[@TheBluePhoenix008]

Jeff pulled that one line that every child hates.

[@andrewwestfall65]

I enjoyed this movie, but I have to admit that I feel like it was 3 movies mashed together. I also felt it getting more generic, but it was still different enough for me. It did bother me that they were heading toward Mt Fuji, my headcanon is that they need any surface volcano and don't have maps. Those last three were just near Mt Fuji and had maps

[@mechajay3358]

John Boyega just can't catch a break. First The Last Jedi and now this trainwreack of a film.

[@andrewputnam2717]

Jay Infinite John Boyega is a high light in both film's though

[@happysadyoyo8200]

What's interesting is I could've forgiven all of this if they hadn't killed Mako. It's interesting to see where lines are drawn for different people.

[@GaussedUp]

Specifically (bad) Rim: Uprising

[@bogustoast22none25]

I loved Pacific rim, when it came to action scenes everything had such weight to it. For example the elbow rocket. You saw the rocket really going off like "I'ma go full nuke on his ass." Then see that it really didn't change that much, because the weight of the hand was so enourmous that it didn't get that much acceleration. When Gipsy Danger crumbled on the first part of the movie, the enormity was felt by me as a viewer. When it came to relationships, even though we were given so little, it wasn't that hard to glimpse under the hood. A woman who was still the same scared child, a man who lost his brother. A colonel who had the world on his shoulders. Two scientists that while goofy, earned their own badass seals of approval, being the minds behind the shutdown of the gate, the brains to the brasn if you will. And the most beautiful moment, it did not end in a fucking romantic relationship, it ended in friendship, earned through pain, physical and emotional. It felt real, it might have been sci-fi, but the humanity in it was real.

[@DragonfameDracas]

Pacific Rim is my all time favorite movie because everything about it was practically made for me and got me so excited I was literally cackling like a mad man during some of the fights. This abomination literally had me questioning the existence of a benevolent god.

[@slandgkearth]

i liked the fucking weight of the mechas, God damm i loved Cherno Alpha, that thing felt massive and somewhat, realistic, the sequel ones feel like paper made, :c

[@Odinsday]

The fights in the first movie made me nut

[@necrospaci4835]

I hated it.

[@jthompson8177]

The first one wanted me to make giant fighting robots causing me to get an engineering degree now I think the past 5 years were a lie

[@rivenrime]

The new ones look like toy models in a fake city to me. 😅

[@ReinBelmont]

Omg i thought i was the only one to feel bad for the lack of weight of the Jaegers in this movie, i even compared the first trailer to the first movie because it felt so weird.

[@DaneBoDoubleE]

Awesome video! Congratulations, you just earned yourself a subscriber.

[@borjankosarac3645]

Your feelings on how the film treats Mako Mori? Yeah, I felt similar disgust in "Kingsman: The Golden Circle" for just blowing up Roxanne Morton and JB in the first twenty minutes (granted, the former was a secondary character and the latter was the protagonist's pet, but STILL). At least this film has the excuse of the original director not being in the chair... except that Mako in "Pacific Rim" was actually a protagonist on par with Raleigh, so I guess they're both equally guilty in their own ways? Goddamn it, this is "RoboCop 3" all over again - twice! Why do sequels have to kill off the best female character from the previous film(s) and not give it the gravitas it deserves? F**k you, writers/directors with no respect for these beloved characters... especially since it's VERY likely that in "Star Wars", the token Asian character who people were VERY divided on (if only for her sh**ty storyline) will most likely NOT bite it even though people were more interested in everyone else (including those who did die). *Sigh* See, this is why I give the MCU a pass for its frequent shortcomings; at least they ALWAYS treat their major characters (outside most villains) with respect.

[@darrylaz3570]

Yeah. The death of Mako Mori really remind me of Roxy's death in The Golden Circle... What I really hate about they killing Mako is that Mako is probably one of the most memorable female movie characters of recent years (and yes, Roxy counts too). She don't fall into damsel-in-distress type of character and instead more towards Sarah Connor/Ellen Ripley type of character, which we haven't seen in a long time. So seeing her fate ended in a helicopter really is an slap in the face to all Pacific Rim fans

[@borjankosarac3645]

Not to mention, having a purely-platonic friendship with the male lead in both franchises - and if Mako hadn't died, I would have loved her pulling double-duty with the PR series' new lead. Who is also her adoptive brother, a relationship we rarely ever see in Blockbuster movies... so whose idea was it to kill her off, exactly? Speaking of Ripley, I'm still incensed that Newt was unceremoniously offed in "Alien 3" - I point-blank refuse to accept any sequels past "Aliens" as canon... unless we get that Neil Blomkamp idea for "Alien 5" which would bring her (and Ellen Ripley) back to life decades in the future. As you can imagine, I was elated when I first heard of that and gutted when it turned out Ridley Scott's masterpiece in mediocrity (ie: "Alien: Covenant") had for the time being at least torpedoed any chances of something that would undo that gutsy little girl's untimely demise...

[@darrylaz3570]

Borjan Kosarac It's not David Fincher's fault. It's the studio interference (in this case, 20th Century Fox) that makes Alien 3 bad. Even Fincher himself hated it as it is not according to his vision

[@borjankosarac3645]

Yeah well, I know all that stuff and I don't blame Fincher, but I wasn't talking about the film's OBJECTIVE qualities - I simply refuse to accept it as canon that Ripley, Newt and Hicks didn't survive to become a proper family unit beyond "Aliens". Killing Newt and Hicks off simply makes a complete hash of that film and its message, which is a key reason James Cameron (in a rare case of me agreeing with the man!) was not happy with what they did to his characters... The thing that really gets me, is they didn't even have to make the film an immediate sequel; you could easily have it pick up a few years later with a teenage or young adult Newt, where Ripley and Hicks are called upon to help the marines because of word of another Xenomorph situation - and Newt doesn't want to be involved, but she also doesn't want to lose her surrogate parents so she smuggles herself onto their ship - or something along those lines. Seriously FOX, why... oh wait, because you're freaking FOX; that's why.

[@ronaldraygun8708]

My god man, don’t remind me. That scene in kingsman was so bad that I didn’t even realize they were dead until it was said out loud. Even then it really didn’t sink in. The first movie was a joke in a good way, the second was a joke in a bad way.

[@Seth-jn2yq]

Pacific Rim is a movie that people claim is dumb when it's actually genius. Uprising is an actual dumb movie. I honestly liked it a lot, but in a different way than the first movie. Pacific Rim kind of lacked the ridiculous anime style action I was expecting it to have and the almost immediate death of every robot felt disappointing. However, uprising is devoid of almost any intelligent drama but has some sick robot fights. I'm conflicted, and the first is far superior in almost every way, but less than 30 minutes off my first watch of the Uprising and it was cool enough where I'm hardly comparing the two.

[@solaris100]

Seth Callina Yeah same here. Quite enjoyed Uprising for what it was...

[@nicholasfitzgerald585]

Seth Callina I agree with the robots dieing so quick. I did wanted to see what they were about. But I disagree with the action of uprising. And agree with the video. Each their own.

[@Millweed]

I completely agree!

[@ricanso1125]

Great way to put it. I feel like one was a proper film with great direction, story, themes, the whole package, followed by a Saturday morning anime sequel expanding on its predecessor. Both were loads of fun in their own way.

[@vibraniumshield7383]

Does a smarter movie make the viewer smarter? I get the feeling that's what a lot of misguided souls believe. You will stay smart or dumb after any movie and it doesn't matter what movie you like. Because in the end, it's not real life. The first movie was good because it clicked with me. Didn't matter if it was actually smart or not, because it's not going to affect my work after watching it.

[@Rycluse]

Those goofy clipart cutaways were great. If not overused I think they'd be a really fun addition to your other videos.

[@weaslelysherbeard6485]

I cry every time when stacker pentacost dies I really feel that moment!🥺😭

[@ServantOfPriss]

It didn't need a sequel to begin with.

[@RicardoMenson]

I was greatly dissapointed in the middle of the movie when they blew up all Kaiju-Jager hybrids. I was waiting for last stand epic scene like Asuka vs mass produced Evangelions from NGE, cuz setup was RIGHT THERE, they were going for that biomechanical style anyway, why not go full on and quote best example of the genre? But they just fucked it up. It was, also obvious next step up in awesomenes: 1. Giant monsters; 2. Giant robots; 3. Giant monsters MERGED with giant robots with rocket launchers in chest. But nope, they all just blew up.

[@Millweed]

Didn't Asuka died in that scene?

[@Coolpiss123]

I love this trend of action movies having no action in them.

[@davidlaurence6763]

I know right? It's like movie execs think we go to popcorn flicks because we want to listen to insufferable snarky dialogue where the writers are shoving it in our faces how clever they think they are. Instead of you know, action...Christ, when Dunkirk-a movie I genuinely love-, a war drama that is in part about the horrors of war, has action in it that better satisfies that popcorn-action movie itch than actual action movies it's just really pathetic.

[@vibraniumshield7383]

Dunkirk is meant to be realistic, which does it more for some people. A horrible comparison. Very few will admit thinking a popcorn flick is better in any way than one that is realistic (and realistically violent), historical, and acclaimed. Use a different comparison (you also said you genuinely love Dunkirk too, which hurts your point even more).

[@alecchristiaen4856]

Pacific Rim is glorious because underneath big mechas through down with Godzilla's ugly cousins, there was conceptually sound writing and character drama. The kaiju, in true Gojira fashion, are symbolic monsters (Gojira represented the danger of the nuke) who symbolize climate change (they are literally likened to tropical storms, get an adorable nickname, and are scaled 1-5). From the perspective of the monsters, this is a story of how humanity can fix the world if we get off our ass and try. The survivor's guilt you mentioned is the character part which makes sense. Our protagonist duo have a clear arc of growing past their trauma, and the drift is a clever way to force the need for character development before the plot can advance. The drift is conceptually sound too. It makes sense that it gives more finesse to pilot the jeagers like that, and it being too taxing for one pilot is a believable explanation. Much like with good anime power systems, Pacific Rim ties plot advancement and/or power level directly to character growth. And emotional moments are given the gravitas they deserve. Herc telling Pentecost to take good care of his son is a scene lasered into my brain. This big, brawny movie about beating sea monsters with advertisable machinery snuck in scenes like this that can genuinely bring people to tears. And then Uprising did that capitalism thing where it ruins a rare spark of beauty in the world and now I demand someone's head's gotta roll for it.

[@commanderbale]

I mean shit pressing f to pay respect for the coffin had more of an impact than Mako's death. The only character I genuinely gave a shit about. The rest where meh.

[@misskobeyoshi2500]

Its funny i said this in the past and everyone assumes im not "accepting change". no i was calling out something i see that is bad.

[@vibraniumshield7383]

tbh you're opinion wasn't unique. a lot of people already said similar before the movie dropped just by the trailers.

[@totallynotnoone4380]

Can they just remove this movie from the cannon and make a new pacific rim 2?

[@scottjs5207]

Only if Del Toro does it.

[@Spicypuff]

Scott JS If he does, uprising could be a spin off. A "what if" type of scenerio.

[@Spicypuff]

jaime ruiz Thats not a bad idea actually.

[@kirstenc6221]

YES REPLACE IT... WIth a live action version of the webtoon that's it's prequel because so far that's way more interesting

[@darrylaz3570]

Uprising is already non-canon ever since del Toro wasn't directing

[@ILoveBees]

I've only just now arrived at your channel, so I have no idea if this is a recurring staple of your content... but boy do I love your T-Shirt. I wonder how many people even remember Powerline...

[@outcast_stars]

I put off watching this video for months, thats how much i like your work jeff! I saw PR2 last night. I really enjoyed it but your right about pretty much everything. HOW COULD THEY KILL HER? ugh