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The Green Bay Packers take on the Baltimore Ravens during Week 15 of the 2021 NFL season.
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@fordland08
@fordland08 2 жыл бұрын
Man, Huntley balled out. Very impressive, as a packer fan all I have is respect for the young man.
@chrishamre9408
@chrishamre9408 2 жыл бұрын
Your only saying that cause the packers won. Not fooling anyone
@delisharamsey6664
@delisharamsey6664 2 жыл бұрын
Same.
@RomanEmpire50310
@RomanEmpire50310 2 жыл бұрын
Same haha!!!! What a game!
@orlandorussell9600
@orlandorussell9600 2 жыл бұрын
Same here!👍🏾... We (Packers) are getting the wins but giving up some big plays on defense... a little concerning. Still fun to watch Aaron Rodgers do his thing!
@Rolling_Coasters
@Rolling_Coasters 2 жыл бұрын
@@orlandorussell9600 y’all will choke in the playoffs like every year.
@alpha_male_s
@alpha_male_s 2 жыл бұрын
Huntley definitely should be starting for a team. He played his tail off in this game!
@chiefspin
@chiefspin 2 жыл бұрын
Ong
@David.Castro1
@David.Castro1 2 жыл бұрын
Well Packers Are The Real Winners In The NFL (Go Pack Go)🧀
@5c679
@5c679 2 жыл бұрын
Fr
@laquoia
@laquoia 2 жыл бұрын
i think hes more of a jacoby brisett type of player. great backup
@senpaichats2yesigotbanned337
@senpaichats2yesigotbanned337 2 жыл бұрын
Ok ok relax bud
@Harv72b
@Harv72b 2 жыл бұрын
Ravens fan. Love John Harbaugh. He's a great coach, we've been incredibly lucky to have him for all these years, and the fact that we were even *in* this game despite being down to our practice squad secondary is amazing. That said...home crowd, Ravens have *all* the momentum, we've got literally the best placekicker in NFL history on the sideline. You kick the PAT and go to overtime, every time, in that situation. And I'd be just as adamant about that if the 2PT had worked.
@555utubefan
@555utubefan 2 жыл бұрын
True that. Not a Ravens fan. He usually goes for 4th down, If I am not mistaken. He has the guts to do that. Ravens could have easily won this game, I think.
@badsnowman
@badsnowman 2 жыл бұрын
facts, why would you go for 2 for the second time in 3 weeks when you saw that one against the steelers didn't work and especially since they had some momentum on defense, they just sacked rodgers and green bay hadn't scored a td in almost 10 minutes, such a bad call and they really don't have the team to go into kansas and beat the chiefs in their home, ravens needed these wins and they made some bad calls on both of them, john is a good coach and he's won a lot of last minute and ot games in the past 2 years but you need to know when to be bold and when to live to see another day, can't be trying 2 point conversions in the playoffs
@neuropete1
@neuropete1 2 жыл бұрын
Great coach? Ha ha ha. Already lost 2 games this year by trying to get all cutesy and not playing for OT. John Hairball sucks.
@555utubefan
@555utubefan 2 жыл бұрын
@@badsnowman could have gone for 3pts in the first drive then for extra point at the end that would have won the game for them. You are right. He sometimes gambles too much.
@23jakesmith23
@23jakesmith23 2 жыл бұрын
Bro, in what world was your defense stopping Rodgers in OT if he got the ball?
@JordanRA
@JordanRA 2 жыл бұрын
Huge Packers fan here, gotta say that Huntley is balling right now. I really hope this guy gets a shot to be a starter in the League for somebody.
@weaselwolf8425
@weaselwolf8425 2 жыл бұрын
That or our team is actually meh. Its green Bay man. We're not like the other tea.s
@samuelhain2712
@samuelhain2712 2 жыл бұрын
Sure, Huntley BRILLIANTLY threw the 2 point attempt at not one but TWO Packer DBs, LOL!
@Marc-tv3hn
@Marc-tv3hn 2 жыл бұрын
Nah he lost and embarrassed himself tonight. Lamar is probably disappointed that his backup cant even pass or run properly
@collinghood6828
@collinghood6828 2 жыл бұрын
@@Marc-tv3hn what game did you watch
@nickbyron6269
@nickbyron6269 2 жыл бұрын
@@Marc-tv3hn clearly didnt watch the game
@thacrypt223
@thacrypt223 2 жыл бұрын
Huntley played like a top 3 QB today. Don't know why I haven't seen him before. He was amazing, despite their loss.
@samuelhain2712
@samuelhain2712 2 жыл бұрын
AMAZING how Huntley threw the 2 point attempt directly at not one but TWO Packer DBs
@animescsc
@animescsc 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/rKm3ZaOfrsyta5Y👆
@ThePhoenix1
@ThePhoenix1 2 жыл бұрын
@@samuelhain2712 he made 1 bad play all game. yes it was at the worst time. but he was the only reason they were in that position. 4 TDS. 2 rushing, 2 passing. 288 total yards. no fumbles, no ints. he played very well. lost by 1 point to the 1 seed in the NFC and a HOF qb on the other side. shut up.
@TheDistrict644
@TheDistrict644 2 жыл бұрын
Ravens best kept secret. I’ve seen him before and said to be a general as well with the practice squad.
@rexrogers1859
@rexrogers1859 2 жыл бұрын
@@samuelhain2712 Oh, you're so clever! Did your nurse give you your crayons back? Lolol
@dainwhyte9820
@dainwhyte9820 2 жыл бұрын
34-9 record is an insane record to have as an nfl coach, kudos to Matt Lafleur, he’s doing big things with the packers organization, I hope they get him his ring this season 🧀🧀❤️
@vanishing_girl
@vanishing_girl 2 жыл бұрын
he's actually 37-9, idk what Buck was talking about. 13-3, 13-3, and now 11-3
@eaglesman19
@eaglesman19 2 жыл бұрын
He's not that good it's because he has Aaron. It's easy to look good when you have a HOF QB. Watch what happens next year when he loses Aaron, he'll struggle.
@elking7601
@elking7601 2 жыл бұрын
*Aaron Rodgers
@DRose1101
@DRose1101 2 жыл бұрын
Overrated ass record lol, he's Rodgers made. Without Rodgers he ain't a good HC
@AdamB34
@AdamB34 2 жыл бұрын
@@eaglesman19 you must've forgot the Packers went 10-12-1 in the previous 2 years with Rodgers before Lafleur including going 6-9-1 with Rodgers the year before Lafleur took over. Packers hadn't won more than 10 games since 2014 before Lafleur... they've won at least 11 every year with Lafleur.
@elijahmccourtney1438
@elijahmccourtney1438 2 жыл бұрын
As a packers fans, all respect for the ravens, they played a hell of a game!
@YooperHatesOhioState
@YooperHatesOhioState 2 жыл бұрын
Same I like harbaugh probably because I’m a fan of his brother’s team
@edwardgaines6561
@edwardgaines6561 2 жыл бұрын
Surprised they got as close as they did.
@frandavis1990
@frandavis1990 2 жыл бұрын
@@YooperHatesOhioState ive been against harbs since 2012
@sanderslotboom7022
@sanderslotboom7022 2 жыл бұрын
Congratz on a tight and good game from a Ravens fan!;)
@YooperHatesOhioState
@YooperHatesOhioState 2 жыл бұрын
@@frandavis1990 pain
@_michaelfaith
@_michaelfaith 2 жыл бұрын
We should’ve went to OT. Our defense started stepping up. GG Huntley & to the packers. Great game overall.
@douglaswalker7707
@douglaswalker7707 2 жыл бұрын
aaron rodgers had 42 seconds and a time out it was game over regardless, he came back against a better defense with less time and no timeout, so no questions he would have did the same here
@edwardgaines6561
@edwardgaines6561 2 жыл бұрын
@@douglaswalker7707 Nah. Harbaugh is just a poosy.
@newagain9964
@newagain9964 2 жыл бұрын
I like how you understand what’s happening better than the coaches. 🙄
@_michaelfaith
@_michaelfaith 2 жыл бұрын
@@douglaswalker7707 that OLine was tired.
@blueberryfreddy2432
@blueberryfreddy2432 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah pretty dumb by the coach
@Gegi1992
@Gegi1992 2 жыл бұрын
As a Packers fan I literally sat in front of the screen shouting "Noooo hes gonna run it again!!" and man he did. And the few times they actually countered him potentially running he usually found another good solution. That man was terrifying. I hope he got some team'sm attention because if this wasnt a one-shot-wonder game then man, I'm looking forward to seing more from that guy.
@lukegavin124
@lukegavin124 2 жыл бұрын
Dual threat qbs definitely are the next evolution of offensive play. The extra threat of a scramble gives you a level of play pocket guys dont give you
@deedsofdecapitation7477
@deedsofdecapitation7477 2 жыл бұрын
Except he completely missed that open read on the 2 point conversion and instead threw it into traffic to Andrews.
@lgsus4209
@lgsus4209 2 жыл бұрын
I hope the Steelers get him Ben should be out next year
@AdamB34
@AdamB34 2 жыл бұрын
@@lukegavin124 dual threat qbs are not new or the next evolution of anything. What you want is a mobile qb like Aaron Rodgers or Pat Mahomes. Guys who can run if they HAVE to but rely mainly on their arm. If you look at running qbs they're ALWAYS inconsistent. Up and down year by year, good one game bad another. Plus, you'll probably never get 15+ years of elite qb play out of running qbs unless they stop running. You'll probably never see a Lamar Jackson type of qb be good for as long Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady.
@fsk5053
@fsk5053 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not even a Ravens fan and I feel frustrated for them. They made the same exact decision to go for two against Pittsburgh and it didn’t work because they thought they could just end the game right then and there. Now you’re trying to do this against the Packers? If I was John Harbaugh, I would’ve just gone for a field goal and go to overtime. It’s terrible that it ended like this because Tyler Huntley played phenomenally against a great Green Bay team today. These cocky decisions from Baltimore have to stop if they ever want to be successful in the rest of the regular season, let alone doing well in the playoffs.
@Bighoodiekid
@Bighoodiekid 2 жыл бұрын
Some people question if we could’ve even stopped this team with 42 seconds remaining, and you want to go into overtime? Not to mention we’re essentially playing with our preseason team so we can’t sustain the brunt that comes with playing an extra quarter. Excellent decision, and courage on part of John
@AndrewD624
@AndrewD624 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously they felt their chance to get the 2 point conversion was better than their chance to win in overtime.
@newagain9964
@newagain9964 2 жыл бұрын
Going for 2 in the GB game was the right move. But the playcall was nonsensical. And add to it, they tried the exact same onside kick as last week. Bruh.
@jakewilliams713
@jakewilliams713 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree kick the damn extra point! The coach literally cost his team two games with that bonehead call!
@charlylucky7508
@charlylucky7508 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't like it. But there is a good argument either way.
@attilathorbjornsson1519
@attilathorbjornsson1519 2 жыл бұрын
11:05 is a spectacular play in a game with many from both teams! Rogers to Marcedes Lewis who frieght trains over a number of Defenders, the guy is💪 just hard to bring down in this game and it takes a bunch of them to finally do it! 💪
@Jiang-
@Jiang- 2 жыл бұрын
Dude is 37 years old, juking out defenders and breaking tackles
@davidm136
@davidm136 2 жыл бұрын
Sure would like to see the big dawg have a game for the ages Pull a gronkowski in the SB Go Pack Go
@sgshumblecrumb6046
@sgshumblecrumb6046 2 жыл бұрын
When did he get that big? Good lord.
@drizzyge
@drizzyge 2 жыл бұрын
I was just at the game! First NFL game I had ever been to. And what a game it was
@Mustang1984
@Mustang1984 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, heck of a game to see on your first time!
@ricercr44
@ricercr44 2 жыл бұрын
Watching games at the bank is always such a good time! And the tailgates are amazing!
@mmldr9306
@mmldr9306 2 жыл бұрын
Wow good for you 💪
@christophermanley3602
@christophermanley3602 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats!
@punknhead23
@punknhead23 2 жыл бұрын
That's awesome! Couldn't have gone to a better place for your first game. Hope you got to tailgate!
@davidwellons8905
@davidwellons8905 2 жыл бұрын
Tyler Huntley's got a bright future. He just needs to stay healthy. I like how Lamar was supportive of him as well. Keep grinding Ravens
@jerryjeromehawkins1712
@jerryjeromehawkins1712 2 жыл бұрын
Look at Teddy today... these guys will have short careers unfortunately.
@breonmitchell2443
@breonmitchell2443 2 жыл бұрын
Every Qb need stay that point don’t make sense Huntley extremely talented
@newagain9964
@newagain9964 2 жыл бұрын
I like Lamar. But there are maybe only 3 QBs worth more than $25M a year. And Lamar ain’t one. To hefty of a price, esp considering the next guy up looks like a starter. I wouldnt be mad if Lamar walks.
@endcycle2502
@endcycle2502 2 жыл бұрын
As a Packers fan, I was impressed by his performance 👏
@samuelhain2712
@samuelhain2712 2 жыл бұрын
LOVE the way Huntley threw the 2 point pass right at TWO Packers DBs, LOL!
@Lebronto_Jackson
@Lebronto_Jackson 2 жыл бұрын
Overall one of the best games of the year. Ravens fan here and also love the packers their my second team so if we lost to anyone I’m glad it’s Green Bay. And for those who said we shouldn’t have gone for 2 both times these last couple weeks are stupid. Against the Steelers we lost our top corner who I know was struggling but still we were way short handed on the back end. And today if we did kick out you know for damn sure a rod finishes it off. Just ask a 49ers fan. Also great game but Huntley he played his tail off!
@cell9899
@cell9899 2 жыл бұрын
Huntley and Andrews built a connection in this game that I didn't know existed
@B.I.of_65th
@B.I.of_65th 2 жыл бұрын
49ers will redeem the red n gold Saturday!
@shocktrauma85
@shocktrauma85 2 жыл бұрын
Or, or, and listen to this, you take the 3 points early on.
@woodensurfer
@woodensurfer 2 жыл бұрын
Ravens took unneeded chances. Going for it at own 29 and then the two-point. Huntley played great, however.
@seandonoghue2347
@seandonoghue2347 2 жыл бұрын
Going for it on the 29yl is suicide.
@DaFifaKid
@DaFifaKid 2 жыл бұрын
@@seandonoghue2347 nfl coaches have been HORRIBLE lately at time management/going for it on 4th when they have no business doing so. the fact that they STILL had a chance to win the game after the 29 yard line 4th down is insane.
@seandonoghue2347
@seandonoghue2347 2 жыл бұрын
@@DaFifaKid I think it's this creeping analytics based play calling rather than gut and momentum play calling they are talking about.
@DaFifaKid
@DaFifaKid 2 жыл бұрын
@@seandonoghue2347 also, have you seen the analytics on teams who score on the first two possessions of a game?? The ravens could have EASILY taken a 10-0 lead to start the game. I am not so mad at the 2 pt conversion but the first drive when they GAVE UP FREE POINTS, when they literally watched the chargers do that FOUR SEPARATE TIMES and lose the game. Its literally pissing me off at this point and I am not even a fan of these teams lol
@UniqueBay.
@UniqueBay. 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh, they were needed. Nothing they did the whole afternoon let you to believe that the defense was able to stop ARod (let alone with them basically spotting them a field goal). If you play with a secondary made of backups you choose your fights wisely and even though they didn't convert, going for two was the right call. They play call on the other hand....
@jamesfitzgerald6581
@jamesfitzgerald6581 2 жыл бұрын
Not having Kenny Clark on dl really hurt GB. Both teams played good. As a PACKER fan i am happy Ravens went for 2 instead of tying game at 31. I didn't want ot 😊
@modimmusic9571
@modimmusic9571 2 жыл бұрын
The Ravens did not play 80% of their starters due to injury.
@davidbarker2507
@davidbarker2507 2 жыл бұрын
Ravens didn't want to go to OT against Rodgers. Don't blame them for going for the win rather than to tie.
@georgiaguardian4696
@georgiaguardian4696 2 жыл бұрын
This has got to be the best game of week 15. Incredible scoring drives from both teams.
@kevinjames60
@kevinjames60 2 жыл бұрын
Chargers vs Chiefs
@ThePowerOfOneThePowerOfTwo
@ThePowerOfOneThePowerOfTwo 2 жыл бұрын
@@kevinjames60 chiefs chargers was full of dumb play calling
@shawnbopko858
@shawnbopko858 2 жыл бұрын
Rogers and Adams are killer together MVS and that whole packers defense i smell a ring
@kellerlaseure7413
@kellerlaseure7413 2 жыл бұрын
Props to the ravens Huntley played his ass off, glad my packers won but 100% congradulations to the ravens they fought hard as hell today
@erion2227
@erion2227 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations for what ? They lost
@kellerlaseure7413
@kellerlaseure7413 2 жыл бұрын
@@erion2227 The raves found themselves a great backup quarterback
@Ferbals
@Ferbals 2 жыл бұрын
Lifelong Packers fan, living in Minnesota, from Chicago. My life has been rough 🤣 One point wins are alright with me!
@kiwanesalaam3687
@kiwanesalaam3687 2 жыл бұрын
So let me get this Str8 yur from Chicago, living in Viking territory calling yourself a Packers fan, gtfoh
@Ferbals
@Ferbals 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, sir! It was easier back home. Bears' fans are WAY less annoying than these lunatics! The moment preseason starts, the Vikings are "winning" the Super Bowl. 🙄 Then, after a beautiful 0-6 start, they're still "going" to the bowl. And they, legit, mean it!
@tjmthegreat4009
@tjmthegreat4009 2 жыл бұрын
Ok so now we know coaches: STOP GOING FOR IT WHEN YOU DONT HAVE TO AGAINST GOOD TEAMS!
@DolphinDivingChamp
@DolphinDivingChamp 2 жыл бұрын
I think there odds were in there favor they could get the on side
@rbeforme
@rbeforme 2 жыл бұрын
You're either a hero or a zero for going for it. That's the fact. They would have lost either way.
@joeyboombatz6509
@joeyboombatz6509 2 жыл бұрын
You play to win not to tie
@Slipperyslope333
@Slipperyslope333 2 жыл бұрын
He went for the win I like the call
@AdamB34
@AdamB34 2 жыл бұрын
@@joeyboombatz6509 you know there's this thing called over time right?
@timothyasberry3470
@timothyasberry3470 2 жыл бұрын
Just an all-around great football game by these two, they went for it from start to finish, but you got to tie the game up and go for it in overtime 💯😁👍
@revolution2405
@revolution2405 2 жыл бұрын
I agree
@Mokotarish
@Mokotarish 2 жыл бұрын
And risk a 50/50 of Aaron Rodgers getting the ball and going down the field against a practice squad secondary? I don’t think so. It was the right call
@antoninicolas6222
@antoninicolas6222 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mokotarish obvs OT play calling is a different approach but the Ravens had just stopped Aaron Rodgers on two straight drives
@stephx7275
@stephx7275 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mokotarish If the Raven's somehow secured the conversion, yeah then I'd agree Rodgers could pull up some miracle and move the ball to field goal range. But tying the game makes Rodgers know if he doesn't win it now he could have OT to win, and with enough luck from the coin toss Huntley could potentially score a TD with the momentum they had in the second half.
@georgepanagiotou8673
@georgepanagiotou8673 2 жыл бұрын
Considering what my boys have gone through with injuries, I’m proud to be a ravens fan.. they never give up 💪🏼😈
@matthewschauenburg
@matthewschauenburg 2 жыл бұрын
They played their hearts out, I'll give them that.
@jvtherrien
@jvtherrien 2 жыл бұрын
Say what you want about the GB defense giving up touchdowns on the final two possessions, but this is a well rounded team. Green Bay's best since 2014
@tcbruh
@tcbruh 2 жыл бұрын
They got too comfortable, and a little too cocky
@mooloo5523
@mooloo5523 2 жыл бұрын
Never ever mention 2014 in the same breath as Green Bay...its the stuff of recurring nightmares...
@RyanLombergini
@RyanLombergini 2 жыл бұрын
Green Bay is the best in the league no question but after they lose arod and Davante Adams having no reason to stay they will be terrible
@tcbruh
@tcbruh 2 жыл бұрын
Ravens are the best team in the league at coming back and winning, we held up, hopefully the defense gets back to how it was in the beginning of the season
@auburnmann3630
@auburnmann3630 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not going to lie; at times this afternoon It looked like Lamar was out there. Baltimore has great taste in signal-callers.
@MrCopyRider
@MrCopyRider 2 жыл бұрын
What a big Game from Huntley and Andrews. But can anyone Tell me why they try this 2 Point and Not the Safe extrapoint? I mean we have the best Kicker in the NFL!
@infernumparadiso3063
@infernumparadiso3063 2 жыл бұрын
They did not want Rodgers have ball woth 42 seg
@MarloSoBalJr
@MarloSoBalJr 2 жыл бұрын
@@infernumparadiso3063 🤦‍♂️ Bro, the Packers would still get the ball back.. With 42 seconds still remaining. Even if the 2-pt conversion was good... Packers would still receive the kickoff with... 42 SECONDS TO DRIVE DOWNFIELD
@thomassankara1391
@thomassankara1391 2 жыл бұрын
Play like a Raven is a real thing. Any other team in the NFL has this many injuries and they are a 2 win team. Next man up with this team is real, and they always play up to the competition, win lose or draw
@Veracity7778
@Veracity7778 2 жыл бұрын
Facts can’t wait until we get out secondary & o-line next year
@matthewthemilkbender8095
@matthewthemilkbender8095 2 жыл бұрын
Packers have had this much injuries.
@BmoreAkuma
@BmoreAkuma 2 жыл бұрын
Bullshit They scored a touchdown to have a healthy Justin kick a field goal just in case to win.
@Veracity7778
@Veracity7778 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewthemilkbender8095 stop it so the packers whole secondary been out? All 3 RBS? Ggs tho
@constantinestefanidis4838
@constantinestefanidis4838 2 жыл бұрын
Saints?
@JimKopriva
@JimKopriva 2 жыл бұрын
Huntley is relentless. Impressive effort. He ran unchallenged when contain was broken, and passed well from the pocket when contained. Backup QB, emaciated defense - Ravens knew they had to claw for a victory and nearly succeeded. The early 4th down and late 2-point conversion were sound strategy. GG Harbaugh & Huntley.
@Thelilantjr
@Thelilantjr 2 жыл бұрын
Brown was wide open on the 2 point conversion but I'm very impressed with Huntley
@se7enkxjzone298
@se7enkxjzone298 2 жыл бұрын
When I seen that I was like damn
@Kelz91
@Kelz91 2 жыл бұрын
@@se7enkxjzone298 even if he recognized Hollywood running free in the endzone it still would’ve been an extremely difficult throw to make because idiot Greg Roman basically cut off the entire left side of the field by having Tyler rollout & he would’ve had to throw across his body because his momentum was going the opposite direction. Other than that I have to admit he actually called a pretty good game for once
@shawn8809
@shawn8809 2 жыл бұрын
3 NFC Championships in a row for The Packers. They are definitely one of the favourites to win The Super Bowl.
@fraud23
@fraud23 2 жыл бұрын
They will still lose and they also got carried by the Refs. Nothing new
@YooperHatesOhioState
@YooperHatesOhioState 2 жыл бұрын
@@fraud23 didn’t y’all get handed a game against the bears? 😂😂
@trustmepalimthatguy3052
@trustmepalimthatguy3052 2 жыл бұрын
Woah... Don't forget about the GOAT of this era and the defending champs. Everything goes through them!
@darksuicune1
@darksuicune1 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevej71393 last year yes, not the year before
@kungfufury291
@kungfufury291 2 жыл бұрын
Packers will find a way to lose in playoffs just like every other year
@krestenneufeld8532
@krestenneufeld8532 2 жыл бұрын
Even though I’m a Steelers fan, I have to give props to the Ravens 1 good offensive player, Marc Andrews is a top TE.
@saulm3252
@saulm3252 2 жыл бұрын
More like a ravens cheerleader lol
@vk0u532
@vk0u532 2 жыл бұрын
As a ravens fan they legit did so good with the injury’s and huntly should be starting qb he is great gg
@forgedbyironandfire4150
@forgedbyironandfire4150 2 жыл бұрын
Stop , you idiots always get caught up in the moment and say idiotic things
@vk0u532
@vk0u532 2 жыл бұрын
@@forgedbyironandfire4150 bro what💀
@dvdnj78
@dvdnj78 2 жыл бұрын
@@forgedbyironandfire4150 I don’t think he means the starting qb of the ravens, I think he means in general.
@thanos2588
@thanos2588 2 жыл бұрын
If the Ravens kick the extra point, the Ravens win this game in overtime. Instead Harbaugh makes a stupid call to go for 2 *at home* and the actual play call was even worse
@edwardgaines6561
@edwardgaines6561 2 жыл бұрын
Next time, snap him out of existence.
@midwestent.7010
@midwestent.7010 2 жыл бұрын
I think so too they had the momentum
@princemidnight6495
@princemidnight6495 2 жыл бұрын
Harbaugh even had a timeout to reconsider.
@newagain9964
@newagain9964 2 жыл бұрын
So ur crystal ball had 100% surety ravens win in OT...but didn’t give u any probability on the 2 pt try?? Weird.
@MarloSoBalJr
@MarloSoBalJr 2 жыл бұрын
@@newagain9964 Better odds & multiple chance of winning in OT than to go for 2-pt
@FuSiOnxNationFx
@FuSiOnxNationFx 2 жыл бұрын
And this proves every week how much heart this team has, just wait until we our fully healthy next season it’s our year. Also S/O Huntley he balled out 💜 #RavensFlock
@zakarykeeling1497
@zakarykeeling1497 2 жыл бұрын
It's a shame you have to play Joe Burrow twice a year :( see you next week 😉
@neuropete1
@neuropete1 2 жыл бұрын
Heart but no brains…
@johncompton5742
@johncompton5742 2 жыл бұрын
Respect to the ravens from a packers fan.
@princemidnight6495
@princemidnight6495 2 жыл бұрын
GG from a ravens fan, it was all harbaugh’s stupid repeated 2-point decision when we played pittsburgh
@newagain9964
@newagain9964 2 жыл бұрын
@@princemidnight6495 tho they should have kicked the XPT vs Steelers, this wasn’t even the same scenario. You’re just an upset fan boi.
@princemidnight6495
@princemidnight6495 2 жыл бұрын
@@newagain9964 I mean even if the ravens did get the 2 points aaron rodgers could still get in field goal range and win the game, i remember what they did to the 49ers.
@newagain9964
@newagain9964 2 жыл бұрын
@@princemidnight6495 now ur thinking rationally. Some team did exactly that last week (49ers?). Also. Going into OT with a scrub team vs the3rd ranked D with Rodgers is a diff game.
@princemidnight6495
@princemidnight6495 2 жыл бұрын
@@newagain9964 I was talking about the 49ers leaving too much time for aaron rodgers back in week 3.
@randyragsdale23
@randyragsdale23 2 жыл бұрын
As a Steelers fan, I was rooting for the Ravens to lose and they did, so I'm happy.
@maxmurphy7306
@maxmurphy7306 2 жыл бұрын
Not cool.
@stephandemaria4895
@stephandemaria4895 2 жыл бұрын
Great game played from both teams. Happy to see MVS with a fantastic performance.
@nejikuchiki_7047
@nejikuchiki_7047 2 жыл бұрын
This is the second time, in a row, that we went for it on 4th down, didn't convert and lost the game. I really wish we let Tucker kick it and go into overtime then rely on the defense instead of going for a 50/50. Still absolutely happy with the way my team played even with all of our missing pieces against one of the best teams in the league.
@Nugs59
@Nugs59 2 жыл бұрын
Haha it wasn’t 4th down buddy it was a 2pt conversion
@matthewcarroll2533
@matthewcarroll2533 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nugs59 Pretty sure he means the first time they went for it on 4th down during the 1st quarter, instead of simply kicking a FG and getting more reliable points on the board, bud. Jim has been way, way too aggressive with his calls lately in this season; at least in my opinion.
@reallyaprophet
@reallyaprophet 2 жыл бұрын
why would you take your chances in OT when you can get two yards and win the game (2 pt conversion)
@FamilyMSV
@FamilyMSV 2 жыл бұрын
@@reallyaprophet because a 2 point conversation you only got 1 chance. In overtime you have plenty of chances to win the game.
@packfan1015
@packfan1015 2 жыл бұрын
They left Rodgers with 40+ seconds left on the clock. You already know how that usually ends. The 2pt conversion was the right call considering the time that was left for the goat to rally for the win.
@animesempai0
@animesempai0 2 жыл бұрын
Kings of the north back at it once again, GG ravens, Tyler Hunley got my respect.
@smackflack6994
@smackflack6994 2 жыл бұрын
Kings. This loss and bengals win put yal in 2nd bum
@mathewlagueux8470
@mathewlagueux8470 2 жыл бұрын
@@smackflack6994 Ravens lost by 1 playing with practice squad players against the best team in the league.... Bengals would've gotten clapped if they went down 31-17... Keep hating
@jamesditmars7272
@jamesditmars7272 2 жыл бұрын
@@smackflack6994 hes talking about the packers not the ravens. We are a part of the NFC north. Say less and learn more.
@andrewjones4774
@andrewjones4774 2 жыл бұрын
@@smackflack6994 he’s talking about the packers kings idiot not the ravens
@ST0NE_206
@ST0NE_206 2 жыл бұрын
I mean even if the Ravens had gotten that 2 point conversion, 42 seconds is more than enough time for Aaron Rodgers clutch up a game-winning drive, remember that 49ers game back in Week 3?
@fraud23
@fraud23 2 жыл бұрын
Packers always getting carried by the Refs
@antho364qc4
@antho364qc4 2 жыл бұрын
if i am John Harbaugh i want to make Aaron Rodgers work for that game-winning drive i would've kicked that extra point no matter what , that was an awful decision
@aspiringvoiceactor645
@aspiringvoiceactor645 2 жыл бұрын
@@fraud23 I think you are confusing them with Brady
@pascalkabalt
@pascalkabalt 2 жыл бұрын
@@fraud23 get a life… trolling your way thru the web.. Pretty pathetic
@elijahmccourtney1438
@elijahmccourtney1438 2 жыл бұрын
@@antho364qc4 yeah agree! And their the ravens D was actually pretty good at the end
@ryanchilcoat2394
@ryanchilcoat2394 2 жыл бұрын
Ravens fan here this is most brutal loss this season this one hurt there is no moral Victory in nfl Tyler is a stud who will start somewhere though he looked good
@tysteazyy8741
@tysteazyy8741 2 жыл бұрын
That pass at 2:47 Aaron Rodgers had so much swag and confidence wit the ball while waiting for dude to get open
@internalambiencechannel5111
@internalambiencechannel5111 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see the Ravens try for the two point conversion...and try to win instead of playing it cheap safe. OK, they loss, but you gotta respect the gutsy call.
@modimmusic9571
@modimmusic9571 2 жыл бұрын
💯
@harrisonmueller3601
@harrisonmueller3601 2 жыл бұрын
I’d just like one game where I don’t have to pace around my living room stressed tf out
@nathanharris7815
@nathanharris7815 2 жыл бұрын
I know right?
@wheels899
@wheels899 2 жыл бұрын
i will NEVER understand why Baltimore went for 2 at the end. you either go up 32-31 and GB needs a field goal to win, or tie it 31-31, and GB needs a field goal to win. 🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️
@AndrewD624
@AndrewD624 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously they felt their chance to get the 2 point conversion was better than their chance to win in overtime.
@edwardgaines6561
@edwardgaines6561 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewD624 Better? It didn't work against the Steelers! Either Harbaugh was using analytics or he's just a coward.
@CIASPY
@CIASPY 2 жыл бұрын
Plus given aaron rodger 42 sec left that what John afraid about it no wonder why he didn't want go overtime.
@davidolson8559
@davidolson8559 2 жыл бұрын
Harbaugh lost to Steelers and Packers going for two. Coach of the year.
@alankoslowski9473
@alankoslowski9473 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. It seems kicking the extra point would've given them a better chance since they'd have a 50% chance of getting the ball first in OT.
@rthetruthful
@rthetruthful 2 жыл бұрын
Hollywood was open in the back of the end zone on that 2 point try
@newagain9964
@newagain9964 2 жыл бұрын
Yup. Huntley didn’t even bother eyeing his 2nd target (wide open and in his line of sight). Yet haters out here saying he’s as good/better than Lamar. 🙄
@ashkans2176
@ashkans2176 2 жыл бұрын
Packers fan here, Mark Andrews is an absolute star. And Huntley played very well today.
@XxSofaKingDopexX
@XxSofaKingDopexX 2 жыл бұрын
Damn good game man, ravens made this a close game! Go pack go!
@elijahnaff146
@elijahnaff146 2 жыл бұрын
Aaron Rodgers had a great performance for the Packers. Tyler Huntley tried to rally for the win, but came up 1 play short. Green Bay becomes NFC North champions again!
@tannerplaysguitarhero8031
@tannerplaysguitarhero8031 2 жыл бұрын
@Devon Nortan Rodgers came back weeks ago.
@Mrcharles.
@Mrcharles. 2 жыл бұрын
Rodgers might’ve played great today but I still have no respect for this guy after lying about his Covid-19 status.
@dadofducks
@dadofducks 2 жыл бұрын
Against a weak division. Who cares?
@Mustang1984
@Mustang1984 2 жыл бұрын
Rodgers played a great game, and I respect the guy for wanting to keep his vax history to himself.
@dylanvazquez9374
@dylanvazquez9374 2 жыл бұрын
Packers fan, but you gotta respect Huntley for coming out ready to compete. Made some mistakes, but he’ll get better with reps.
@Lue_Jonin
@Lue_Jonin 2 жыл бұрын
Game of the week 👍 🏈 🧀 Too close though GB .. Detroit beat Arizona today so I was concerned the Packers were going to give up a win to the Ravens.
@TheLaundryGuy32
@TheLaundryGuy32 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty impressive from the Ravens today. They have been smacked by the injury bug.
@EdHealey88
@EdHealey88 2 жыл бұрын
They lost a home game
@caseherc5991
@caseherc5991 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, and smacked by bad coaching decisions as well.
@TheLaundryGuy32
@TheLaundryGuy32 2 жыл бұрын
@@EdHealey88 and?
@markdavey2107
@markdavey2107 2 жыл бұрын
All teams this part of season has tons of injuries...Harbaugh is a dipshit coach and it showed again today..
@sexi7o23
@sexi7o23 2 жыл бұрын
11:05 is a spectacular play in a game with many from both teams! Rogers to Marcedes Lewis who frieght trains over a number of Defenders, the guy is just hard to bring down in this game and it takes a bunch of them to finally do it!
@Abdurrahman-zo6wi
@Abdurrahman-zo6wi 4 ай бұрын
Hard to believe this was 2 yrs ago I remember this 😭
@Megastar_Tye
@Megastar_Tye 2 жыл бұрын
This was 100% a good game! I wish it was overtime but still a good game, now Packers need to beat the Browns so they beat the entire AFC North
@farazshahzad9650
@farazshahzad9650 2 жыл бұрын
Packers swept the best division in the NFL and might be able to sweep the second best as well
@Bighoodiekid
@Bighoodiekid 2 жыл бұрын
This game really signifies how great an organization the Ravens are top down. There’s no reason for them to be in this game to start with. Literally playing with our preseason team, and still only 1 point behind possible super bowl teams
@yurisaiko5890
@yurisaiko5890 2 жыл бұрын
Almost winning doesn’t count. Ravens fans can check what Packers did with undefeated Cardinals missing big bench of starters. Currently Ravens have a possibility to miss playoffs.
@talonpederson7599
@talonpederson7599 2 жыл бұрын
As a packer fan I give the ravens props for keeping it so close
@jdajayi92
@jdajayi92 2 жыл бұрын
What it really signifies is that the Ravens have great players but very incompetent coaches.
@Bighoodiekid
@Bighoodiekid 2 жыл бұрын
@@yurisaiko5890 yeah, but look at how incompetent the packers were without Rodgers. The Ravens have a 2nd string oline, our number one wr is literally 5’8. We’re missing our edge rushers in Campbell and Derrick Wolfe, our free safety in DeShon Elliot is out, and our number 1 corner rn is our 5th option. The Ravens and the packers are not the same.
@IAMMOVIN4WARD
@IAMMOVIN4WARD 2 жыл бұрын
Packers were on fire between the 3rd and 4th quarters.
@lanecriddle1124
@lanecriddle1124 2 жыл бұрын
As a Utes fan I'm loving seeing Huntley succeed. That said, go Packers!
@Nightowl333
@Nightowl333 2 жыл бұрын
Huge win for the Packers what a game. Rodgers continues to be absolutely amazing, but DAMN HUNTLEY looked good, dare I say he looked better than Jackson lately in this game. Very impressive.
@derrickluv1147
@derrickluv1147 2 жыл бұрын
When it comes to throwing the 🏈 his accurancy is way better than lamars and he still has the legs to get it done. I luv my Ravens but I'm for trading lamar for a lot of draft picks , start Huntley and build on defense and offense. I luv Lamar but if we give him this 💰 and he still can't thread the 🏈 consistently from the pocket , our organization is in trouble for year's to come.
@patszz9159
@patszz9159 11 ай бұрын
@@derrickluv1147lmao you’re such a clown go root for another team we don’t claim you bud 🤡🤡🤡
@him1062
@him1062 2 жыл бұрын
Tyler Huntley C/ATT 28/40 215 passing yards 2 passing touchdowns 13 attempts 73 rushing yards 2 rushing touchdowns 35.9 Fantasy Points!
@jeffsantay865
@jeffsantay865 2 жыл бұрын
The players played their hearts out . That was a good game . I'm sure Harbaugh was playing for the win.
@markdavey2107
@markdavey2107 2 жыл бұрын
But he lost another to his coaching
@maxmurphy7306
@maxmurphy7306 2 жыл бұрын
No he wasn't , the game should've gone OT.
@sports3117
@sports3117 2 жыл бұрын
John Harbaugh tried to outthink himself and go for the dagger backfired on him. You do that, you give Aaron Rodgers too much time to go down the field and get into field goal range and win the game. Dumb move by John Harbaugh
@trixxy5382
@trixxy5382 2 жыл бұрын
This was by far my favorite game
@TheRealGaryColeman
@TheRealGaryColeman 2 жыл бұрын
Huntley looked like Lamar 2.0 And made the game very close. this was a Great game and a GOTY Contender
@joeomalley2835
@joeomalley2835 2 жыл бұрын
Great game. The Ravens fought hard despite being so short-handed. Huntley played like a seasoned veteran QB.
@joeomalley2835
@joeomalley2835 2 жыл бұрын
@@sylvesterhughesiii2248 Well he didn't play like a rookie, at least and kept them in the game.
@Itsrowbear
@Itsrowbear 2 жыл бұрын
what a great game. my buddy and I went to this game yesterday and i couldn’t have asked for a better game!
@TheoHuxtible
@TheoHuxtible 2 жыл бұрын
That boy Huntley looking real South Florida. 954 Hallandale 🏈🏈🏈
@donparkvideos
@donparkvideos 2 жыл бұрын
Forget the noise. Fans are getting a terrific season. Great games.
@BandyGnat
@BandyGnat 2 жыл бұрын
We….. almost…… won to Green Bay :(, but both teams played well
@MCTaezer
@MCTaezer 2 жыл бұрын
Tyler balled his whole heart out, what a guy.
@brittdavid8591
@brittdavid8591 2 жыл бұрын
Big plays Big Performances, lots of Heart, we see u Baltimore, great show, see u in the Post Applause
@redrich7679
@redrich7679 2 жыл бұрын
Rodgers is a regular season winning QB....not a clutch playoff QB. Big difference.
@danielherrera7362
@danielherrera7362 2 жыл бұрын
Can't believe Huntley missed the wide open receiver in the back of the end zone for the two point play...
@jimnorton3718
@jimnorton3718 2 жыл бұрын
Gg Ravens! You guys are really good. Andrews is a beast. GoPackGo!
@paulgrimm6850
@paulgrimm6850 2 жыл бұрын
Huntley ran right over our defense ! This guys a keeper!
@tyrandungee2432
@tyrandungee2432 2 жыл бұрын
Huntley and the Ravens played their hearts out today only to lose possibly because the coach goes for it in the 1st quarter instead of kicking for the 3 points and then not going for the tie in the 4th quarter. SMH, but good job Ravens!!!! Coach Harbaugh lost at least 2 games this season
@CollegeGamer0
@CollegeGamer0 2 жыл бұрын
To be honest, I thought the Raven would've won, but my favorite team, the Packers, won!!!
@Trabunkle
@Trabunkle 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing performance by both teams! Nuffr Said!
@johnnyutah9874
@johnnyutah9874 2 жыл бұрын
I say it all the time no matter what team is playing, it’s crazy nowadays how it’s pretty rare to see yards after the catch and even more rare to see a spin move or a good juke. Most players refuse to even attempt a spin move anymore, they see a db and they basically just take the tackle where they stand or so
@temporaryfixes
@temporaryfixes 2 жыл бұрын
Being at this game was not only my first one, but it was also one of the best experiences in my life. Glad we're going home on a win! Go Pack Go!!! 🧀💚
@Mrcharles.
@Mrcharles. 2 жыл бұрын
Packers might’ve won but that doesn’t mean I have any respect for Mr. Rodgers after his vaccine status.
@animescsc
@animescsc 2 жыл бұрын
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@attilathorbjornsson1519
@attilathorbjornsson1519 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mrcharles. His body his choice
@Mrcharles.
@Mrcharles. 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t care if he’s vaccinated or not at this point but he should’ve just told the truth from the beginning. That’s what made me lose his respect.
@Dakobah20
@Dakobah20 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mrcharles. show me where is life choices hurt you..
@cameronholder8029
@cameronholder8029 2 жыл бұрын
Hell of a Game!!
@travisdonaldstanley6420
@travisdonaldstanley6420 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing. You have home field advantage, and you don't go for OT.
@RYMAN1321
@RYMAN1321 2 жыл бұрын
Time for Harbaugh to get fired. It’s obvious he doesn’t have it anymore to actually win when it matters.
@farazshahzad9650
@farazshahzad9650 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly wouldn’t matter too much against Rodgers. I’m sure he would march down first drive and score a TD
@Doodoofart725
@Doodoofart725 2 жыл бұрын
They have 29 players out. They can't afford another OT.
@jeremyblack1929
@jeremyblack1929 2 жыл бұрын
As a packer fan, Huntley was a terror. Seemed like our rush couldn't get to him without leaving him open to run. His quick executions were so crisp, his shots were on point. I'm glad the Ravens are 8-6 now mostly because I don't want to face this team again in the playoffs.
@MaDFroG88
@MaDFroG88 2 жыл бұрын
Well, ravens went for the win 🏆👏
@waylonswaycraps
@waylonswaycraps 2 жыл бұрын
Man Mark Andrews is a damn beast with speed and great hands! Impressive
@thomassankara1391
@thomassankara1391 2 жыл бұрын
That's 2 Losses for the Ravens due to Harbaughs horrible decision making
@edwardgaines6561
@edwardgaines6561 2 жыл бұрын
Bengals will win the AFC North.
@vincentestone5764
@vincentestone5764 2 жыл бұрын
SENSELESS extra point play by The RAVS. Tie it up, especially with the momentum on your side.
@brianpaige3681
@brianpaige3681 2 жыл бұрын
True
@DSrDavis-tq9qp
@DSrDavis-tq9qp 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with our coaches decisions the last few weeks, bc our team can not play extra secession of football due to all the injuries. Unfortunately we come up short on them.
@netty1221
@netty1221 2 жыл бұрын
Yasssss to mi PACKERS 💚💛💚💛 God bless everyone n Happy New Year!
@nedludd7622
@nedludd7622 2 жыл бұрын
A couple of odd calls for the Ravens. Going for it at 4th and 5 with 12 minutes left and then going for the 2 point conversion.
@samwhite616
@samwhite616 2 жыл бұрын
On your own 29! Resulted in the game winning field goal
@tonym4136
@tonym4136 2 жыл бұрын
As a packers fan..Ravens put up more of a fight than I expected
@georgepanagiotou8673
@georgepanagiotou8673 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if we had our full squad. I think we would’ve won .. gd game though I like the packers.
@MrGNugget
@MrGNugget 2 жыл бұрын
Packers defense is hitting NFC Championship game form at the perfect time 🔥🔥🔥
@deathman2549
@deathman2549 2 жыл бұрын
giving up 30 points to back ups is championship form? The ravens only starters on offence was a guard, 2 tightends and their WR. They are using 2nd, 3rd or even practice squad guys for the rest
@MrGNugget
@MrGNugget 2 жыл бұрын
@@deathman2549 it's sarcasm, the defense chokes like this every year in the NFC championship game
@benjones44
@benjones44 2 жыл бұрын
It’s no quit in the Ravens gotta love it
@Markph7
@Markph7 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Ravens had a top 10 receiving corps or a coach who used analytics instead of gut to make decisions. Great trust in Huntley, but putting entire effort on two pt conversion to win it wasted Huntley’s great start
@saulm3252
@saulm3252 2 жыл бұрын
They’d still be trash
@Balmighty7
@Balmighty7 2 жыл бұрын
@@saulm3252 yeah that’s why next time y’all will be taking a L by the ravens
@saulm3252
@saulm3252 2 жыл бұрын
@@Balmighty7 sure buddy
@nickolastadych4761
@nickolastadych4761 2 жыл бұрын
Na you can't take away from what Huntley did out there at all. To go.out there and show.his ass to arguably the best team in the league right now is nothing less than amazing
@paulroggenbeck3129
@paulroggenbeck3129 2 жыл бұрын
Great Game! Wow! Harbaugh hasn't learned yet to play it safe yet by making stupid gambles on extra pts.... 4th and short, in red zone, instead of field goals in past couple games. 0-4.👎🏼 He owes his team an apology!! They work too hard to give up games due to bad coaching decisions. They possibly could've been 10-5.
@isaacclarke7425
@isaacclarke7425 2 жыл бұрын
Ravens even probably win this game if they didn't gamble on 4th down and taken the field goals. They have Tucker for crying out loud, the most accurate kicker of all time
@hhdjfjfjnfng1832
@hhdjfjfjnfng1832 2 жыл бұрын
really good game by andrews
@JMcN76
@JMcN76 2 жыл бұрын
Second time this season Harbough has cost his team the game going for 2 instead of going for the tie. I get it, but you have to make better decisions.
@Fife_knight
@Fife_knight 2 жыл бұрын
Bro I agree, I just don't get it with those two calls
@AB1B1
@AB1B1 2 жыл бұрын
Huntley shot out the pocket like a cannon on that last TD
@glennafcnewyalk5925
@glennafcnewyalk5925 2 жыл бұрын
Serious props to all involved in editing this. Not knowing the score, this was thrilling to watch. Cheers!
@yurisaiko5890
@yurisaiko5890 2 жыл бұрын
It’s really weird to see that Harbaugh doesn’t trust his defense to such a level. Having the best kicker in NFL you should go to OT any day any time if you have some trust in your defense, especially after that Packers-Cincy game.
@maximilianmiller1963
@maximilianmiller1963 2 жыл бұрын
We're missing our CB1, CB2, CB3, CB4, S1, S2, LB2, and calais Campbell so I don't rly blame him
@bguiles1
@bguiles1 2 жыл бұрын
Ravens secondary today was just a bunch of dudes from a temp agency and three raccoons in a trenchcoat. We're literally on like CB #10 at this point. Harbaugh made the right call.
@maximilianmiller1963
@maximilianmiller1963 2 жыл бұрын
@@bguiles1 right decision, awful play call
@popalot_gaming
@popalot_gaming 2 жыл бұрын
As a packer fan y’all gave us a heart attack let’s hope we get to see each-other again at full strength
@jayce1315
@jayce1315 2 жыл бұрын
And with different refs.
@antho364qc4
@antho364qc4 2 жыл бұрын
John Harbaugh is the stupidest coach in the NFL, AWFUL decision to go for 2 imo No shame on Tyler Huntley he did what he had to do in this game
@Kursive
@Kursive 2 жыл бұрын
Huntley gave every chance for the ravens to stay in this thing, and the difference between winning and losing is a dumb 2 pt call that didnt even work on the steelers 2 weeks ago. When you have a guaranteed pat with tucker to tie the game, you do it. Im really disappointed with this call making
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