MY MOST DISAPPOINTING FLIGHT! Business Class Algiers to Montreal

[@ramdaneboucheloui4419]

Air Algerie, known as Air Couscous, never let me down, we have a great relationship, i don't fly with them, they don't disappoint me.

[@soukathu10]

For me, I recently flew the A330-200 to Algeria from LHR, it was so much better compared to the video and I’ve enjoyed the new variant cabin it was clean and refreshed, food wasn’t cold and the cabin crew were more interactive.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

That’s good. I’m hoping to see a total revamp with the new aircraft arriving. I’d hate to see new A350s being neglected in the same way

[@utb45]

​@@PatrickSheaAviationt'inquiète en algeire c est avion était très propre les premiers années mais ils comence à devenir vieux les nouveaux avion puisque se seront des meilleurs avion il vont bien en prendre soin

[@davidbrown5628]

Did they have in-flight entertainment?

[@soukathu10]

@@davidbrown5628 Yea Ofcourse, they had lots of themes like live sports, movies, films and other things like that.

[@soukathu10]

@@PatrickSheaAviation We all hope that. 😂

[@BRTripReport]

The cabin is so dirty!!!! No excuses for that. Thanks for sharing.

[@ahmedilyas125]

Even the Algerian don’t like air Algérie

[@Badidibidou]

That’s true

[@salim7025]

Lol we don't, I can confirm

[@brahim4038]

I recently flew Air Algerie's new 737-800 from Moscow to Algiers, the cabin is freshely new and its not dirty, seats are slightely enjoyable and the food is... Very delicious. I can say that some planes are a big catastrophe, including this one. Hope they will upgrade it soon. Thanks for the review Pat!

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Glad you liked it! Thanks!

[@brahim4038]

No problem!

[@justsomeone7382]

Air Algérie tbahdila

[@steveohana6216]

I flew Their 737-800 a couple of time and they are even worse Air Algerie is a mess

[@abdelkadermehiz9407]

​@@steveohana6216those are from 2003-2011 ones quite old, but renewed in 2020

[@deanmeixner]

That's a shocker of a flight for business class ... the cleanliness ... can't complain about it, there is NONE ... and that food ... makes Air Koryo looks like haute-cuisine ... safe travels 🥂

[@mariavandenbosch2723]

YIKES! If I had a parachute, I would have used it 😝😝😝

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Love it, yesss!! 🤣🤣

[@Abdulkarim_1991]

Excellent video. I'm glad that you were not arrested when taking the pictures in the departure hall. That shows that Algeria is evolving. I haven't flown AH since decades, when it was a correct carrier. Algeria being a rich country, Air Algérie being a public enterprise, they ought to have more decent airplanes. It's a matter of governance not money.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

New airplanes showing up should hopefully bring new life to the airline as well. It’ll be great to see and I hope to go back and check it out once that happens

[@seeker119]

الغاشي الراشي كما انت اموت على السب في بلاداه

[@abdelbelmehdi9829]

مخدوعين و رخاس

[@roronoa02]

Algeria is a third World country

[@dailymotivateandcultivate]

incredibly informative! appreciate the clear explanations. Thanks' for sharing that's give us a clear idea about the company but i think there is no other alternative carriers that operate that same flight?

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Air Canada does actually fly to Algiers as well, so you do have another option. Hopefully when Air Algerie’s new fleet arrives, they’ll be competitive again

[@abdelkadermehiz9407]

​@@PatrickSheaAviation yes Air Canada does fly here but only summer seasonal service 😅

[@berendbrowny]

Nice video as always!! Really like it too see these exotic airlines being reviewed 🙂 keep up the good work mate

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Thanks a bunch! Appreciate it

[@souissi1]

I did the same

[@Moi-Moi1]

Sad to see that most of flight reviews from North African airlines end up with so many negative points, especially about the lack of cleaning and cabin maintenance.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

It’s the unfortunate truth at this point. I do hope the management can start to take some pride in their airlines with new airplanes and airports coming so that they can start a new chapter, as they have the culture and location to really offer a wonderful product

[@yosefzentino2268]

What do you mean north African airlines???? Do you know how many countries are in north Africa???

[@Moi-Moi1]

@@yosefzentino2268 I mean Tunisair, RAM, Air Algérie, Egyptair

[@Loftikaz]

when Air Algerie is ever on time, that's when you should worry.

[@Adam-om3dz]

OK as in American Algerian here I cannot tell you how much Algeria pisses me off I flew in Algeria one time and I probably want to go back ever again they are just bad but hopefully with the new airplanes they will be better. I’m willing to give them another chance in the future, I prefer to fly Delta with a stopover in Paris, I definitely understand your frustration and I thank you for making this video to bring awareness to the problem

[@jtinsfo]

Excellent coverage and objective as always. Thanks Patrick!

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Thanks! Glad you liked it!

[@derekbell4641]

Hahaha..just look at that happy mugshot at 26:31. Reminds me of the faces I saw in my local supermarket this morning at 7.45am. They'd had to leave their freezing beds to get to work., poor things.😆

[@ullahelwegrothe2024]

I remember - I flew to Oran in 1987 , with a Boing 737- 200 . Oh dear ..no one spoke english. Only arab and french. I was 21 years old and going to visit my algerian boyfreind...❤ in Oran .

[@siphilipe]

Because it's Patrick's coverage. If the same work was done by Mohamed, tons of critics will take place.

[@khaled7732]

Don't want to imagine how economy class looks like, I usually fly with Air France way better product and experience!

[@user-nv9px2hy6b]

The worse is that you pay to get disrespected by the cabin crew. It's way better to fly Air France or Air Canada.

[@allisonabbott-kline4765]

Thanks for this objective review & for flying this plane/route so we don't have to.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Thanks!

[@theRoyalHouse-ys6gd]

Algeria .never 😊

[@263Leo]

I would have walked off the flight before it left. You are a better person than me

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

I had to give them a fair shot at least 🤷‍♂️😂

[@znsaidi]

Wow! I bet there's worse. Relax

[@AmineAmine-by6bu]

Hi Patrick what a disappointing and frustrating conditions you gone thru your Air Algerie long haul flight. I'm Algerian and never jump on Air Algerie flights when heading overseas coz deeply in my mind and in prior I know what disappointments I definitively will face if not aircraft interior conditions it will be flight attendents attitude and arrogance and food quality service. Air Algerie allows these disappointing situations with firm intention to strenghthen and root frustration into passengers bodies and minds. All Algerians are well familiar and hitorically experienced with Air Algerie service quality turbulances. Good luck.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

That’s unfortunate. I would love to come back and try their new airplanes when they arrive in a year or two since I did enjoy my time in Algiers

[@user-nv9px2hy6b]

The crew is definitely the worse in this trash airline

[@FTWciaran]

I only managed to watch 9 minutes of the video so far, YIKES! This was rough. No IFE for a 12 hour flight. I'm shocked, don't know why anyone would book to go on this. Thanks for trying it, I'll be sure to avoid.

[@amiroamiro8809]

4:29 was there something called selecto for sodas? Cause If there was, you missed out on a lot

[@raymondleongdiva]

Omg I actually cracked up watching your video. I feel so bad for you but at least you arrived safe...

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Travel is all about the journey… as good or bad as that journey may be 🤷‍♂️

[@pronazaro8091]

لاتنسي أنا جزائر حررت أمركين الذين إختطفو ولاتنسي أنا جزائر تريخها عريق ودولة الثوار والحمد الله انا أفضل شركة طيران في عالم هي عربية وإسمها خطوط الجوية القطرية

[@Ratio66]

@@pronazaro8091 😂😂🤣

[@perryugalde639]

The joys of traveling. Equipment swapping does happen, and it either elevates your experience or forces you to throttle back on your expectations. Ultimately, comfort (discomfort), good (bad), superior (inferior), etc, are relative to the individual and a matter of definition - most notably when there is no choice in the matter.

[@a.gougam465]

Very informative and fair. let's hope Air Algerie would view this and take action . Thank you

[@sharjah246]

J espère que la direction d air algerie visione la vidéo plusieurs fois pour avoir un petit peux de motivation pour le changement dans la bonne direction

[@EpicThe112]

Excellent video If it right out Frankfurt Germany in Canadian French it's spelled as Francfort sur le Main which is where Air Canada 845 is coming from. Speaking of the air Algérie business class seat old version it is exactly the same as a Cathay Pacific 1990s Long Haul seat and the Regional Business class seats also Korean Air Prestige Class B737-9B5/ER pre retrofitted B777-300 like HL-7573 unless retrofitted to resemble the A321-271N. IFE screen is in your right armrest. I'm wondering which of the Legacy carriers in the United States still use this setup in the domestic fleet. US CBP Stamp is MTL for Aéroport Pierre Eliot Trudeau provided you went back to California from Montreal via Newark Airport. For Canadians go to Montreal Airport to Florida they would simply drive to the US border Plattsburgh,NY or Burlington, VT that way they can simply pay the domestic price. There are 2-2-2 business class seats are flatbed example of these in California are the Korean Air Airbus A380 services. Also 2-3-2 flat bed seats SFO/LAX PR Mabuhay Class Korean Air Prestige Class B777-3B5/ER sleeper seats.

[@CraziiTiger]

Yikes! That whole flight felt like it was from hell! Thanks for review!

[@soukathu10]

Recently when I flew with their new A330-200 variant, the quality was quite good and was much more different compared to him flying with the older variant.

[@mathewvanostin7118]

Yeah i think people forget their experience with the same company gonna defer. Depending of did you get the old still fuctionning gear or new gear/renovated gear Depending if you got good employees who take their work seriously. Or the bad employees who dont care about their job quality etc Its the same about hotel. And everything else

[@znsaidi]

I see you are not a fun of Algeria.

[@davidoneal1518]

I think you are a much nicer person than I am. I would have been really mad to have to fly that distance in those seats and not have a bed.

[@user-nv9px2hy6b]

+ the crew is catastrophic. The worst people you will see if traveling to Algeria are air algerie crew members.

[@yosefzentino2268]

​@@user-nv9px2hy6b Totally true, Algerian people are naturally rude

[@cms4229]

Like I flew BA’s open skies back in 2015 in business and it was a better seat than this.

[@stevenuhl6675]

The screen that you showed with the waypoints...is that an app that I can put on my phone, or is that a different system? I've ben looking for something like that for a while now. Thanks!

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

It’s ForeFlight. I use it for my flying for work

[@stevenuhl6675]

@@PatrickSheaAviation Thank you! I will look into it.

[@josephalison12]

This is what happens where people working in those planes (and for the company as a whole) are hired based on accountaince and not on skills and competence.

[@tarwingrill4531]

That is exactly the problem. Air Algerie jobs are among the most demanded and they go for connected people with no skills. Not only they have no skills, they also feel protected and can't be disciplined. Same issue for all big government owned companies, and that is why they run a deficit almost all the time.

[@robinklo4566]

The buttons on the armchair was (before IFE) used to control different music chanels. That was the only onboard entertainment 😊

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Oh yes! But unfortunately nothing happened with them on this flight. I was hoping to at least be able to listen in to ATC… I do miss when that was a normal thing you could do with these buttons

[@luiskp7173]

I remember that “IFE” in AVIANCA’s 90’s 767s. They even played movies in the bulkhead TVs! You could use the headphones to listen to the audio from the movies or change the channel to music by genres (In a pre-set, no skipping!) 😂

[@mokdadus]

Thank you for the constructive review. I hope that Air Algerie management will sit down, watch this and take notes to fix this messy Airline.

[@freedom9243]

In Algeria we call That Airline Company Air Couscous

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

🤣🤣 love it!

[@amiroamiro8809]

As soon as Emirates started flying to Algiers from Dubai, my family and I directly started going on it since air algeire was bad

[@aj742]

The people mover is actually called a mobile lounge. Aside from Dulles, CDG also had such large people movers for a long time, though I don't see them these days in any of the videos on KZbin. Great video, I'm liking your content. Nice work!

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Thanks! That’s interesting, I didn’t know they were at CDG

[@aj742]

@@PatrickSheaAviation yep I rode in those a few times at CDG, back in the day. In '02 and '04 if memory serves me correctly. Quite large as well.

[@ATjfds]

Tom Scott did a video about them a few months ago

[@MEGIDIOT]

I’m Algerian-Canadian. Whenever I book a flight on Google Flights, the first filter I set is “exclude: Air Canada; Air Algérie” 😂😂

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Although…. I may even choose Air Canada if I flew this route again 😬

[@MEGIDIOT]

@@PatrickSheaAviation for sure, Air Canada>Air Algérie, all day any day

[@mb8kr]

As Algerian myself I ceased to travel with Air Algerie since 2010 for the exact same reasons you showcased in your video. At least you landed in Montreal safe and sound. Furthermore I don't think new fleets for AA will change anything for the very simple fact hygiene is cultural. I bet you might have seen a lot despicable things during your visit in that country. An airline and Airport reflect an image of the country. Unfortunately Algeria failed very badly for that matter.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

I actually quite enjoyed my time in the country, but I am nervous for the fate of the new fleet. Although I of course will hope for the best, and would love to return to Algeria to try the new aircraft when they arrive (maybe before they get dirty 🤣)

[@mb8kr]

@@PatrickSheaAviation hi Patrick, I'm glad that you've spent good times in Algeria, as far as the new fleet is concerned. I can tell you right now, it is gonna look pretty similar after couple of years in service, mainly due to lack of sense of urgency and competitiveness. Truth be told. But i hope I will be proven wrong. I hope also despite the disappointment in the airliner you will continue to come back to Algeria, a beautiful and generous country without doubt. Many thanks for the objective review👍🖐

[@JotunnMeister3222]

As an Algerian traveler , I’m using Air Algérie most of the time .. and I can relate to your video and experience, but I can truly say that it’s dépends, sometimes you have also flight with planes much much cleaner and with plate much tasty . You had a pretty tough experience I can see, but trust me air Algérie worth better than that …

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

I definitely want to return once they have their new fleet and see how they renovate their brand. They could definitely do something special with it

[@ok7513]

Never fly with air algerie!!!

[@luiskp7173]

Those headphones are actually used for the “music” channels. I remember AVIANCA’s 767s in the 90s using this system. They even play movies on the bulkhead TVs! 😂

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Totally. Although the music and live ATC channels weren’t working on the seat controls

[@nycflyertravel]

Hey, very interesting video! Hopefully they start flying their newer wide bodies on this route soon. I would have been upset too flying on the one you were on. Did you need to get a visa to fly to Algeria or did you just transit through Algiers?

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

I did need a visa for Algeria, but if you transit, then there’s no need. I would think once their new aircraft arrive, that we will see the upgraded product on this route… or at least I hope

[@nycflyertravel]

@@PatrickSheaAviation thanks!

[@Sydorrah]

After he said a roach ran across his feet I screamed 😂 thats absolutely disgusting. They need to use their updated 330 for that route....false advertising

[@user-nv9px2hy6b]

The worse is that they always make videos and pictures of nice crew members but once you get onboard you get surprised by how mean and unprofessional Air Algérie crew members are.

[@cms4229]

Like this seat would be fine for a 2-3 hour flight but crossing the Atlantic especially on a night flight would be torture in 2024. This would have been fine in 2000s and maybe early 2010s but not today.

[@bobalto]

Air Algérie ordered many brand new A350-1000 and A330neo aircrafts to renew its long haul flights fleet and also 737-9 max for short flights , so we expect much better in the future for sure…however they should have definitely refurbished the current fleet in the meantime, I mean it’s still operating!!!

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Exactly. I think that was mentioned in the video. I am excited to try the new fleet when it arrives

[@bobalto]

@@PatrickSheaAviationI’d be pleased to experience it as well.

[@wahwahmtl199]

I came 5 days ago on your seats 3A 7T VJV and I am totally agree with you , I do this flight 5 time a year and It is always the same aircraft coming and going to algeria , the new one it is only for CDG, PKX, DXB.... I feel shame for my country because I know that they can do better, hope for the best but your video is excellent and objective.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Well I do hope that the new aircraft arriving will be a nice refresh for Air Algerie, and I look forward to trying those out when they arrive!

[@wahwahmtl199]

Any how I just started following you I love your content and when those aircraft come to Air Algerie , try it :) @@PatrickSheaAviation

[@zaki-fd2fd]

Excellent coverage. I never flew with Air Algérie business class nor have I ever been on such a long flight, but I'm actually quite surprised that besides the seat size, there is pretty much no difference between Air Algérie business class and economy. I'm pretty sure even the meal is the same. How much did you pay for this ticket?

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Good notes! This flight was around $800

[@TheSeal-if6lc]

Thank you for your constructive critique. they might listen to you because they have never listenned to their Algerian customers who continue asking them to improve their services. Lets wait and see. This might work.

[@flyboy3110]

As someone who works inflight catering (and an avid aviation fan who loves air travel), I guess I can safely say that the plane isn't as sanitised as it could have been 🥲 And as for the meal service, the tray set-up and main course didn't really look as pleasing as I expected for a business class flight. Awesome video, nevertheless. :)

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Thanks man. Glad to hear the input. The plane and food definitely had a strange smell…

[@user-nv9px2hy6b]

As an algerian I am ashamed to see this. We can find excuses for many things but not for a disgusting dirty cabin. I hope one day my people will no longer have to be ashamed by their airline. However, your video was really good and respectful even though you were not respected by this airline. Are you going to post your Montreal-Algiers flight?

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

I didn’t film any content on that flight, just because I was trying to sleep the whole time. I definitely want to try Air Algerie once the new aircraft arrive next year. Hopefully they can sort out some of the mess and the new fleet can mark a new chapter for the airline and the country. I’m excited to try that out soon!

[@anthonydelcoure1264]

Algerian people are ashamed of everything in their country since 1962 and you as an algerian you know that very well....

[@anthonydelcoure1264]

​@@PatrickSheaAviation Air Algérie is not a compagny, it's actually a state's administration, Air Algérie is not a compagny which seeks to make profits and this situation has been going on for decades...

[@user-nv9px2hy6b]

@@anthonydelcoure1264 We're ashamed of almost everything in our country since 1830, indeed.

[@anthonydelcoure1264]

@@user-nv9px2hy6b Your country was created and built by us, there was no "algerian" state before 1962 and since then, algerian people dream only about to leave Algeria and come to France and you know that very well ! Did you know that Algeria was economically more developped than Spain, Portugal and Greece in 1962 ?

[@femboykiki4409]

You should try the Air Algérie a330 to dubai or doha route they use the new a330 not the old ones

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

I’m hoping to try out their A350s once those arrive. Then I’ll definitely get to see the new product

[@femboykiki4409]

@@PatrickSheaAviation yes. As per airbus they will start delivering on 2025

[@danielcoa2189]

And, just like that, Ethiopian economy from Buenos Aires looks like a lavish excursion. The state of that cabin!! The mere fact that you ate what they served you in there... Sadly, I experience flights like this regularly travelling through Africa, India and China. And, however long these flights are, I usually keep my hands firmly in my pockets let alone have a meal. Having said that, your trainers have seen better days.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

These shoes have definitely seen plenty corners of the world… 🤣

[@raxxmoriti]

can you give a comment about south african airways?

[@lesiu69]

Ouch! This would seriously stress me out! Always check Seatguru for cabin configs and avoid surprises!

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Oh I always do… unfortunately this one’s not on there

[@user-ce1pd5bp7l]

Guys stop talking about my country’s airplane plus this is the old version the new version has entertainment systems like example tv, games etc shall u guys please stop talking trash about my country im proud Algerian

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Unfortunately you’re only as good as your weakest link, so until the airline can fix their deeper problems it will be tough to have a comparable product. I do commend them on having a long haul aviation market, which most countries struggle with, I just wish them the best in improving the whole product for when I do come back out to try it again in the future

[@myt763]

new version is 10 years old and still dirty bud im algerian and even i condemn the airline

[@mouhamedbeladjimi7018]

Hi men, I can understand your point of view, I'm french but each time I go there to visit my family I regret paying 3/4 of a Paris-Tokyo flight for just 2 hours and a horrible service... You'r not the only one complaining about this company, every Algerian or people who went there hate it !

[@brain346]

Not very accurate though cuz I did fly with air france from UK to algeria and was horrible. So it's depends on the plan condition that u flying with at the time

[@mikeflyer2059]

et t'es content de partager ça avec un étranger ?

[@mouhamedbeladjimi7018]

@@mikeflyer2059 Oui, il faut qu'il sache que notre companie national est pourrie jusqu'a la moelle, avec l'argent des billets du Covid ils se paient de nouveaux avions sans rembourser et je te parle pas des pots de vins. La vérité fait mal mais elle est nécessaire a montrer.

[@daniyalbbd5281]

But you're not french , you're Algerian freeloader

[@user-nv9px2hy6b]

@@mikeflyer2059 De toute façon, il a remarqué par lui-même que cette compagnie est désastreuse, principalement en raison de ses équipages.

[@andremp03]

Yikes, that 'old' business class is something you would have seen 20 years ago (as airlines were moving to flat beds) - it's quite sad how some countries don't take pride in their state-owned airlines. The lack of cleanliness is revolting.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

It does seem almost as if this airline is just stuck in the past. Here’s to hoping they can figure the mess out before they get the new aircraft

[@sofiane5984]

@@PatrickSheaAviationthey ordered 15 new aircrafts

[@adell4738]

​@@sofiane5984 W9tach ydkhlo llkhedma ??

[@mingushill8416]

😂😂 I took recently a business class from Algiers to Doha, with the new seats cabine and it was amazing,honestly I was afraid to find those old seats too cause I know them

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

I am hoping they continue to install the new seats... I'll be back once the new aircraft arrive and *hopefully* will have better feelings about it after that

[@dbnsalim9602]

have you previously taken air canada for the same destination. recently the air canada flight left 23 hours late, because the pilot had missed a connecting flight to reach algiers, and once airborne, the in-flight cathering service as well as the menu were deplorable compared to what air algerie offers

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

That sounds horrible! But it is understandable as it’s not the easiest airport to get to, comparatively to other airports nearby

[@user-nv9px2hy6b]

At least when you fly Air Canada you get acceptable service, clean cabin and good entertainment. I hope one day Air Algérie will stop being so terrible.

[@abdelkadermehiz9407]

I think that was one of the 2005 a330s, cuz Air Algérie has 5 old ones and 3 newer a330s delivered in 2015, with 251 seats and 20 of them business class seats 💺, but the a330 neos and a350s coming in few years, we'll hop up a bit, but don't worry, even these old cabins are about to be changed, like the 5 737-600s that already started

[@brahimchaouki6328]

What a disaster this country😮😮😮

[@abdelkadermehiz9407]

@@brahimchaouki6328 yeah I know but whatever

[@user-nv9px2hy6b]

It doesn't matter. If the horrible crew members don't get fired, Air Algérie will sadly remain trash. Today aug 4 I took the same flight and the crew was awful, just 3 crew members were working, the pilot was insulting passengers. I still hope one day this company at least gets better.

[@abdelkadermehiz9407]

@@user-nv9px2hy6b yeah I know I just mentioned to him about the seats on ads, but still we take a step forward only to get further behind shortly after 😔

[@abdelkadermehiz9407]

@@user-nv9px2hy6b anyways I do hope to get a chance to get out as well 😉

[@TheWuschelMUC]

I only had a short domestic flight on an Air Algerie ATR72. You are right, the cabin is not spotlessly clean, and the ATR72 was quite old. There was not even a cup of coffee available, but on a one-hour flight it is not so important. But the flight still was better than an eight-hour car ride on the way back!

[@epictea5122]

air algerie sure had a massive upgrade, the best ive seen was their 737 from moscow to algiers, got some good tea and extra cake

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

I do want to get out there once their new aircraft arrive and give a good chance to their new product

[@abdelkadermehiz9407]

​@@PatrickSheaAviationyou want the Max 9? Well it'll be new but a bit crowded more than -800's

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

@@abdelkadermehiz9407 I’m more referring to the A330neo and A350s

[@abdelkadermehiz9407]

One of them is 7T-VKJ the one I took from Oran to Algiers, on my video 😁😅

[@abdelkadermehiz9407]

@@PatrickSheaAviation yes the big boys ✈️✈️, can't wait to see them

[@Mavi-de2mv]

What a dump truck airline! Thanks for the warning They need to change the management, logo, identity, inflight service and everything. I’m sorry to say this but I love Algeria as people and country and I want only the best for them. I’m really shocked

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

It will take a lot…. Once the new aircraft arrive, I do want to go back and see if they’ve improved anything else by then. They’ve got a couple years to figure it out

[@alexanderallan215]

This was an extremely informative video , the plane was in a deplorable, unsanitary, and in extreme disrepair. The worst parts for me were the following: 1. The absolute filth , the tray table & where it was housed, the stench of said tray table. The floor that was home to the cockroach. The bugs in between the glass of the window. Which for me , calls in question, the ability of the cabin to remain pressurized ( correct me if I’m wrong) . 2. The worn & disrepair of the cabin. The lack of air vents , overheating in the seat ( on such a long flight) , The broken foot rest, and tray. 3. The inattentive nature of the cabin crew, were they too busy relaxing to attend to the passengers? The lack of communication by the pilot & crew. 4. The food was very disappointing, and unappetizing. Did you later get food poisoning? Overall, I would definitely avoid that flight, possibly the airline. Given the fact, that the crew was so inattentive, and prioritized socializing with each other ( on your Montreal flight back to Algiers ) . New equipment won’t correct that. Great video, very informative, I look forward to your next flight video.

[@user-nv9px2hy6b]

1. Air Algerie's planes are always so dirty and It's clear that this is the worst point for Air Algerie. Even though they are less dirty in newer cabin, they remain disgusting. 3. Cabin crew with Air Algérie are usually unconsistent. Sometime you find an amazing crew that just make the flight look amazing, other time you find horrible person that just should not be working with human being. 4. Even if the food don't look great in this specific flight, it is usually one of the great thing for Air Algérie. Moreover, no matter what, the food is always clean and don't forget that Air Algerie catering also make the food for Emirates or Qatar, so they have potential. The government of Algeria is saying that they want to improve quickly the airline, which they haven't started yet in the service. However, the pre-pandemic economy with Air Algerie was great and Business class was bad and that is because it used to be a family company.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

These are all great points! Luckily no food poisoning for me. Now we stay waiting for the new aircraft and see if things get better 🤞

[@ZombieKiller1965]

You're a pretty clean cut guy. That filth must have been a nightmare.

[@iran747]

North African airlines just cannot compete with more innovative carriers such as Qatar or Turkish Airlines more committed to higher standards.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

That’s very true, but that’s also not their market. They work more on point-to-point travelers. People will fly with them for the direct flight options at least

[@abdelkadermehiz9407]

That was a 737-600, we still have 5 of them which are the only ones worldwide besides Janet Airlines ones

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Good to know. Exciting!

[@abdelkadermehiz9407]

@@PatrickSheaAviation yeah 😅

[@petrileskinen9915]

Thanks again for a very informative video.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Thanks! Glad you liked it

[@georgezaharoff]

I would have NOT been happy - I went to look at prices and it’s about $1100 one way, about the price of an economy plus which is what that looked like….from 1992. 9 hours is a long ass flight in those seats. Better to just buy three seats in coach and spread out.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Totally, or just use Air Canada instead 🤷‍♂️. Or wait for the new fleet to arrive

[@williamsZhou]

This Air Algerie A330 is old and has not been refurbished. Based on the check. It was manufactured in 2006.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Correct. They do have a new batch of A330s that are nicer and an order of new airplanes on the way. I guess we hope for better things

[@Checo777]

How the airline is not embarassed to sell this product as business class is beyond belief... I have no words... This would also be honestly a horrible economy class service, let alone business... woow, speachless

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Yea… it’s tough. Their new fleet can’t come soon enougg

[@IzzemMA]

Air Algerie should stop flying until it gets its act together. Just sounds like this was horrendous experience.

[@MB-vm1fu]

And how does that concern you as a moroccan ? Pathetic behavior.

[@gamerb5343]

Try the Algiers Dubai or Algiers Doha flight and you will find the plane. You will find modern planes of this type. Thank you👍

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

I plan to come back once they have their A350s, but it still seems weird that one of their longest flights has these ancient cabins

[@gamerb5343]

@@PatrickSheaAviation The 350 aircraft will enter service in late 2024 and early 2025 and will be introduced with a new and modern design. Thank you.

[@user-nv9px2hy6b]

@@PatrickSheaAviation No route, except the one to Beijing, is exclusively operated by one cabin or another. However, Air Algérie has 5 planes with old cabin, and 3 with new, for long haul flights. It is just more probable from these numbers that you would get the old layout.

[@charlie77577]

Glad my love Tunisia Airline did not disappoint you this much.. I’m from New Zealand.. Hope you will come fly Air New Zealand if you haven’t already..I’ve never flown Air New Zealand, only United Airlines when they used to transit here, emirates and my most favourite Qatar..

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

I’ve never flown Air New Zealand but their SkyCouch intrigued me. Especially because of how expensive their business class can be

[@portobello36]

Am Algerian and I hate it , I flew with them just if I have too 😢

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

I just hope the new aircraft can help make the whole experience better. I will definitely come back to check it out as I enjoyed Algiers.

[@portobello36]

@@PatrickSheaAviation we hope for the best 🤲🏼 it’s a beautiful country, we need the right person for the right position this is what is lacking in my opinion. Take care bro

[@JDLFTrips]

That middle seat recline is criminal

[@سارزين]

I traveled with Algeria Airlines twice, the flight was fine and the food was good and delicious, but unfortunately the plane was old and dirty, and the behavior of the flight attendant was bad.

[@midouie6620]

I understand you and sorry to hear about your experience,even me I am Algerian origin and I never fly with them I rather to add some money more and flight with different company ,

[@MaartenVVonk]

Thanks Patrick for another great trip report. What can I say? Air Algerie beats Tunisair and not in a good way... gross and disgraceful…. well, it is what it is 🤷🏼‍♂️ Looking forward to your next trip report, cheers! 👊🏼😉

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Glad you liked it! And yes, I would totally choose Tunisair over Air Algerie when given the choice

[@carthagestar4477]

​@@PatrickSheaAviation 😂😂😂😂😊😊😊😊😊😊 THANK U ONE OF THE RARE TIME I SAW A GOOD COMMENT ABOUT our national company. I think that our company tunisair became bad since révolution when i was young before 2011 it was ok for me. But you can try Nouvelair if u want an other tunisian company. You have a good chanel thank u for u video.

[@samabd3665]

AA is not always bad. I am Algerian and never experienced such flight…

[@ala_dine2709]

Yeah no one ask you to come😂

[@daniyalbbd5281]

​@@samabd3665AA is racist. If you're ot Algerian - they won't treat you well. Not with respect

[@samabd3665]

How much did you pay for this flight ?

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

This flight runs for about $1000 USD

[@samabd3665]

@@PatrickSheaAviation I am sorry that you had a bad experience, I’m Algerian and I never fly with AA on long distance. But seriously when you pay $1000 for business class from Algiers to Montreal you would expect this service. Also I don’t know if you mentioned the price in the video but it would make sense to add it. I don’t excuse the quality of the service of AA, I think it was terrible 🙃

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

@@samabd3665 it’s always great to hear from locals on these videos. That’s all good and true. I do look forward to trying out their new aircraft once those do arrive. Algeria’s location and culture puts it in a great spot to make a great airline, it just needs some work and desire from management

[@anthonydelcoure1264]

​@@samabd3665 Everything is terrible in Algeria since 1962, every body knows this ! Dirtiness is a culture in Algeria that's why i'm not shocked by seeing this plane so dirty !

[@samabd3665]

@@anthonydelcoure1264 your comment is terrible because Algeria is one of the best countries to visit. 1962 is our year of independance. We prefer to live in a country that is dirty than having the nasty French people enslaving our people… are you French ?? From your comment we know how dirty your are inside and out.

[@NewYasmine-nl9jq]

Algerian here. I admit our airline is shitty 💀

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Ha! I’m holding out hope that the new fleet order arriving soon will bring a new look to the airline!

[@eddie8745]

Thanks for your report. Too bad the airline has a lot to work on. Your flight was definitely not an international business class offering worth exploring.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Agreed, unfortunately. Once they get a new fleet we will have to see if it’s gets improved at all

[@pipoune91]

Safe to say there are room for improvement here, but bear in mind that this is a tier world country, created only 60 years ago. They will learn and get better ❤ you can’t compare that experience to big country carrier as Algerian standard are way lower than ours. Good video !

[@pipoune91]

I want to add that unlike its neighbors (Morocco and Tunisia) there is almost zero tourism in Algeria, in comparison.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Well said! I do believe that compared to other countries on their level, they are still below average, but at least they have new airplanes on the way… so the best is yet to come

[@samysmati6781]

there is a video about Air Senegal on this channel, it's interesting to watch it to see the difference.

[@abdoushow6137]

​@@pipoune91 الجزائر استقلت في 1962 اما تاريخها فهو كبير جدا فنحن قمنا بأعظم ثورة في القرن العشرين اما السياحة عندنا فيأتينا كل عام 3 مليون سائح اجنبي و هذا الشيئ لا يسعدنا كجزائريين لان دولتنا سابقا لم تكن تشجع السياحة و الان عادت الى الواجهة

[@yosefzentino2268]

​​@@abdoushow6137 There is no way 3 million tourists visit Algeria every year 😊 May be 3 people at the most 😊 زكك يالبهيم ، 🤣🤣 قالوا ثورة ؟؟ واش يقولوا الفيتنام وكوبا والروس والصين ووو، تبهدايلكم أصبحت عالمية يالجاهل ، ادرس الانجليزية حتى تفهم تعاليق وتعرف انك تعيش في بلد الخراء وبشهادة عالمية 🤣. القوة الحازقة أصبحت حزقة كونية. Algeria 🇩🇿 = North Korea🇰🇵 Same shit different continent

[@peterfinn6098]

What did you expect from Air Algerie? Seriously are you mad. You do realise how corrupted this place is in the first place. And the crew can easily alternate the cabin temp. The overhead air flow isn’t air conditioning, it’s just air flow. Try RAM next time could be OK. Did you expect the crew to explain anything to them. You have to understand Algeria as a whole mate

[@Amtran727]

What a disgusting product they are offering!

[@soukathu10]

They work so much better on their new A330-200, I recently flew on there and the quality compared was so much better, it was clean, food wasn’t cold and it was really enjoyable

[@karimboulman4036]

Dirt has nothing to do with plane models. Algeria is ruled by a corrupt military junta and they use Air Algerie as a way to hire their relatives and pay them with hard currency. This airline has the worst crash record in North-Africa. Flying with them is a big act of courage.

[@samabd3665]

@@karimboulman4036 wawwww crashes with AA. What a liar ??? What’s your proof and statistics ?

[@Ka3boul_family]

@@samabd3665 don't trust him.. he's Moroccan

[@samabd3665]

@@Ka3boul_family right! I am sure he’s 😃😃😃

[@redademe]

What a torture, I am sorry for your experience.

[@utb45]

Non moi j ai voyager beaucoup beaucoup de foit ça n'a jammais était un torture car l importance c est d'arriver saint et sauf selui qui aime pas air algerie ou l algerie tout cours il vien pas c est le comportement typique d un français critiquer se qui appartient à l'Algérie

[@thomasmala2952]

bro there is no torture 😂

[@karimbenh7622]

​@@utb45Je suis Algérien et j'ai honte de voir cette horreur. Je n'ai plus voyagé avec Air Algérie depuis 25 ans.

[@utb45]

@@karimbenh7622 la c ton problème

[@user-nv9px2hy6b]

@@utb45 Je suis algérien, j'aime Air Algérie et l'Algérie. Cela dit, c'est simplement épouvantable ces hôtesses, stewards et pilotes aussi impolis, désagréables et SURTOUT arrogants. Ils ne font pas leur travail, pourrissent le voyage des passagers, n'assurent aucunement la sécurité et en plus de ça ils préférent passer le vol entre eux plutôt qu'à travailler alors qu'on paie, mis à part ça Air Algérie n'est pas si mal et je sais qu'une infime minorité font bien leur travail. Air Algérie ne réussira pas tant qu'elle ne se débarassera pas de ses équipages qui ressemblent à des douaniers.

[@abdelkadermehiz9407]

If you need to be in the newer business class you should take abother route, like Algiers-Doha or Algiers-Dubai Algiers-Beijing, they use it more frequently in these routes

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

I do want to come back and try the new product, although I am a little confused as to why they don’t use it on Montreal, one of their longer flights

[@abdelkadermehiz9407]

@@PatrickSheaAviation maybe for the density, they need more number of seats 💺, or just forgot to set it properly due to late execution or unrevised policies, I mean it's common for our country to set slow solutions or cover plenty of problems 😔😕, anyways whenever you feel like you can try it, I'll be waiting to see the review 😁😉

[@abdelkadermehiz9407]

@@PatrickSheaAviation I have to say the cabins are also dirty and have little leg room when extended and small storage boxes, but the overall is much better than what you've been into, and the crew service and food quality adds more to the equation ofc ❤️

[@marcopolo2036]

I Flough over 60 airlines and have to say that Air Algerie is more decent than most EU companies except big ones (klm lufthansa)...and most importantly I experienced the best landings with Air Algerie

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Well then maybe something was off on this flight, but I’d choose the EU airlines over this flight. I am curious about Air Algerie’s new product so I can see how that compares at least

[@user-nv9px2hy6b]

@@PatrickSheaAviation He said that because on flights to Europe, you usually get a 737NG with a decent and clean cabin, without IFE in eco (there are in BC) but with recent seats. You would get there a full meal for a 2hour flight, which is usually good. (You would be surprized, but economy food is better than business food with Air Algérie, no idea why). Long haul service is sadly terrible, however, as we can see from your review.

[@bilenttuna6921]

Terrible configuration for business class. Thanks Patrick for your nice, simple and understandable video

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Thank you! Now I’m waiting for their renovated business class to start showing up so we can see if they really do take this opportunity to improve themselves

[@CentralAgency-zx1ik]

I would like to know how much the cost .please thx

[@MarkusTravels]

Nice footage! It's my first time running into your channel. Your video could really benefit form a higher quality microphone for the voice-over; there's quite a bit of echo. A simple, dynamic USB mic could be a great solution for you! Or you could record in an environment with more soft surfaces.

[@pcmacintyre]

@MarkusTravels You'll find Patrick's audio better in his other reviews. I wonder if he had some difficulty rendering the video.

[@MarkusTravels]

@@pcmacintyre I'll be sure to check out some others then!

[@abouabdelah9197]

كل هذا بسبب الفرنكوبارباريست و فرنسا...و العلمانيين و الليبراليين ..الخطوط الجويه الجزائرية كانت من أقوى الخطوط في العالم أثناء حكم الراحل بومدين رحمه الله ..

[@AyaBoulegheb-yd2gd]

Great video and beautiful photography from you. I also travel with Air Algerie. It is amazing ✈️

[@nicholasrv8834]

Amazing they actually charge people to fly on that monster

[@user-nv9px2hy6b]

And then once you get onboard the crew make the cockroach look friendlier then them. Paying such high prices for getting terrible service, this airline is a shame for Algeria.

[@al-batll2023]

نعم النظافة الخارحية مطلوبة و لكن الاسواء في الإنسان عندما يكون قذر من الداخل لم يغسل نفسه بعد دخول الحمام منذو ولادته امه .

[@fifikenenn1279]

I know very well Air Algerie company from the 90's. It was a kind of punishment at that time to fly with them and departing from Alger's old airport smelling dirty toilets everywhere.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Well maybe the new fleet showing up soon will help with their aging aircraft issues 🤷‍♂️

[@ashleymyrrh1756]

Crikey! That's a Business class meal? I dread to think what was served in Economy 😨

[@mahyar305]

It takes a lot indignity to operate an airline like this, absolutely no shame whatsoever...

[@Z3US6]

what app did you use to track the flight ?

[@abdelmessaad8862]

Hey! What’s the name of the app you use to track your localisation ? Thanks

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

I use ForeFlight for that. I use it for work so I have the paid subscription to it. But it does come in handy at times on airline flights

[@wogame7906]

Can you try Air Canada Montréal Algiers??? Plsss

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

I definitely want to try Air Canada’s long haul service, although I haven’t chosen an exact route yet