The Ones (Ep. 12) - Australia’s LOW COST Business Class on their LONGEST Flight

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

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[@Scarebus_Driver]

Mate great review. As a JQ 787 Captain excellent background work something almost no other reviewer cares about, outstanding. We are looking forward to the cabin refit. We loved by that i mean my wife is a CM that you had your meal prior to Sydney as opposed to waiting an hour for your first drink if flying with others. The flight number 1 thing was spot on with one additional thing that Melbourne is JQ’s financial headquarters so as you said the number 1 is about location location. Anyway solid review and two new fans, cheers.

[@gregorybaker330]

I am QF LT GOLD and rarely get great service in all classes and flew regularly out of Asia and HKG for 25 years and fly Jetstar all the time as no carry on ,reasonable fares and polite, efficient service. Captain above is correct about JQ. I love them,can use lounges,get points and fly to Asia in both classes for less than half the trip. Very smooth and pleasant experiences compared to QF. Safe travels.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Great info man! Great to hear from you. I always appreciate crew stories and inputs! Safe travels mate!

[@deepaksubramony5438]

Indeed, Jetstar and Scoot use the 2-3-2 recliners layout for their "business" class, while full-service airlines use the exact same layout for their premium economy class. For those looking to fly premium economy on any full-service carrier, I recommend sticking to either the 787 or the upper deck of the A380, because they have the 2-3-2 layout with a 19-inch seat width. Another great option is the A380 lower deck (found on SQ and EK, foe example) which is 2-4-2 but with an even wider 19.5-inch seat width. Meanwhile, the A330 also does 2-3-2 in premium economy, but with a smaller 18.5-inch seat width due to its narrower fuselage. Finally, on 777s and A350s premium economy is always 2-4-2 with an 18.5-inch seat width, which makes both of them the least desirable option. In fact the A350 is the worse of two because it has narrower aisles in premium economy to accommodate the 2-4-2 layout ... But that is offset by it being a far quieter plane than the extremely loud 777, and it's pressurization at 6,000 ft instead of 8,000 ft.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Great info mate!

[@kevin19358]

I flew Jetstar for the 1st time last May from Honolulu to Sydney and the flight is good and okay, 10 hours and 1 way, I pay less than $300 on a 10 hour flight from Honolulu to Sydney and it's very cheap, but not the best.

[@deanmeixner]

"DeathStar" are notorious for their departure delays, friends and I have a bet on when the flight will actually take off 😂 A great flight report, it's not the best product in the sky, but as you say, you get what you pay for. Looking forward to your next No1 🥂

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Thanks! Guess I got the full experience with my delay then lol… 😂😂

[@Maxm-nt3zs]

Shouldn’t call it that way. The term Death is sensitive for aviation. Respect.

[@deanmeixner]

@@Maxm-nt3zs have you seen Star Wars?

[@kper5592]

That seat reminds me of the United Airlines international business class from like 25 years ago.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

A nice lil throwback lol…

[@vinniechudam1835]

Great review. Flew on Jetstar's second longest route a few months ago from Sydney to Seoul, which is only a few hundred miles shorter than HNL. I set my standards low, as in I expected Premium Economy standards rather than Business. 10hr daytime flight was okay, definitely not luxurious. I had the same seat as you 1A with a neighbour too. Cabin crew was excellent. No crew bunks on JQ Dreamliners, they opted not to install them. The last row on the right hand side in this cabin are designated crew rest seats on all flights. They come with extra recline. Thanks for the detailed review

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Awesome! Good info. I saw those crew seats. I guess on shorter flights, you may be able to snag one of them for some extra comfort

[@paulkazzer]

Qantas QF 1 SYD SIN LHR First in a A380 should be an excellent experience. Thanks for a great review and lovely cinematography. JQ certainly serves a market well and at a good price.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Been wanting to do that one for a long time… the cash just isn’t there for that one at the moment

[@Cicely667]

Hi Patrick, Im new here and I have just subscribed. Love your channel. I live in Melbourne and I love Hawaii (the Big Island specifically) so much ,that I have taken JQ1 and JQ2 return 9 times in 10 years. Have had mostly good service and mostly on time. I have not paid for business class or even premium economy (we tough it out in exit aisle seats in standard economy) so it was great to get a glimpse of what I have been missing (not to much by the looks, lol). For anyone interested, dress warmly even though you're going to Hawaii, cabin can be quite cool.

[@christianbayerstein5243]

If you like Hawaii, you should also travel to Tahiti, which is like Hawaii , but much more beautiful and not so overcrowded. And Tahiti is closer to Australia than Hawaii. Of course, Tahiti and its other islands is very expensive , but so is Hawaii.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Great to hear! Hawaii is always fun. I love Kauai. Way less people and way more nature… kinda like the big island! Safe travels! Mahalo!

[@_autom]

oh cool you restarted 'The Ones' and ya, i'm also inclined to agree with your proposed rationale for why it's possibly named that. air vents are the standout feature here as cabin looks super worn and uncomfy but that lamb shank looked tasty indeed. i have to commend you on how you cover an airline's history and inject your own analysis. it is remarkably detailed and well researched; it really makes you stand out among others. btw i think we need more sepia toned or coloured cellophane filters just like that landing :P

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Thanks man! Those 787 window filters give a certain *charm* to the flight I guess lol…

[@sully7735]

Great Review!! Also the Max Business bundle you gain Qantas FF points and Status credits - The nice thing is that Jetstar Max bundle gives you the equivalent points of Qantas full fare Business flights, but for half the cost, so that is definitely a nice perk on top of the lounge access. Also the Max Economy bundle gives you equivalent to Qantas Flexy fare Status credits - We flew to the cook islands in January and got 50 Status credits each way, not bad!

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Not a bad idea. Being my first flight with them, I wasn’t aware of the difference in those fare classes. Good to know for next time though

[@red.guevarra]

I almost flew Jetstar from Honolulu to Sydney, but realized I had some points to use so I flew Hawaiian to Auckland, then Qantas to Sydney instead. I should start a video series where I always sit in 1A of an aircraft! We can call it "The One A's" HAHAHA!

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Haha! The One A’s! Love it! 😂

[@brucemcabee5042]

I trust you had a great time in Melbourne. I hope you will be doing QF1 one day soon. It has a long history.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

I’ve been wanting to do that one for a LONG time! So dang expensive! I hope I get there soon!

[@brucemcabee5042]

@PatrickSheaAviation I can recommend Air Tahiti Nui for your channel. Flew them in 2022, of course the biggest bonus us thst you end up in Tahiti.

[@NickEaster-wj2bi]

Another great Sunday morning with a Patrick Shea review! Definitely loving the diverse locations and the various different airlines

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Thanks!

[@WarlockofSF]

COOL flight review. Melbourne & Honolulu -> two great cities. You're getting more sponsors!!! BTW you have nice teeth.

[@mikec9883]

Since the this flight ended in Honolulu will the next flight possibly be ZipAir 1 from Honolulu to Narita?

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

That would have been fun. I actually used this to get to the Hawaiian 787 inaugural

[@muhamadsupriyono5468]

3:03 I flew on that exact 777 DOH-MEL QR988 26 JAN 2023

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Awesome!

[@kevin19358]

9:25, I agree. 15:01, Yes it counts as a trans Pacific flight, but you lose 1 day when you fly from Hawaii to Australia, even though it's a morning and daytime flight. How many hours did you sleep on the plane?

[@christianbayerstein5243]

Without lounge access , a recliner seat on a long international flight and this kind of meals it is definitely a Premium Economy Seat, not Business Class at all. Air Asia is a lowcost airline as well, but they offer at least angled flat beds in their Airbus A330 planes on longer flights.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Yea it would be nice to see something like that on Jetstar. I guess we will have to see what truly ends up happening once the fleet renewal happens

[@waynej747]

⁠@@PatrickSheaAviationthey’re sticking with recliners in the refurbished business class cabin, most likely similar seats to Qantas’ second generation PE seat.

[@OP38074]

Yesssss finally, we got an Australian airline. Hopefully, we will get a Qnaats review soon and, as always, amazing video!!!

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Hoping to try Qantas soon!!

[@OP38074]

@PatrickSheaAviation yess finally. My experience was mixed with them so it'll be interesting to see how ur experience will be. They're typically pretty good in domestic routes. But if u fly international like I did, then ur probably gonna get a mixed experience.

[@pgilb70]

Jq adl to bali is also pretty gd actually.

[@MiltBrady]

Jetstar is renown for delays and cancelled flights.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Sounds like I got the full experience then… lol

[@mxyzptlyk]

Lamb shank! Damn, premium airlines could learn a trick from that. And then... chicken sausage turned up. Oh dear. A great idea of doing Number Ones (😀😀) and so much more information about the history.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Totally! I love the lamb shank!

[@tomsoden1738]

A6-ETI - Etihad, I flew on that plane last summer. Another great video, cheers Patrick.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Thanks! Awesome!

[@johndouglas5712]

Excellent review Patrick . A Mid Pacific flight ? I think this airline should just go all economy . Thats basically what you got

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Fair enough. Definitely not international business class standards, but at least better than economy. Not terrible for a low cost carrier

[@bobgraham3289]

You have a good voice for audio I was on the inaugural HNL- Sydney flight some years ago; not in the business but main cabin. It was fine, although Jet Star definitely has the rep for flights being delayed, and I often see that on the arrivals departures board when I am at HNL. Now I always take Hawaiian Airlines. I flew Quantas once, but was disappointed in the shape of the older aircraft, poor video screens and content and not much service; of course it may be different now.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Totally get all that. Jetstar just has the cheapest prices so some people will suffer whatever could go wrong in order to save some cash

[@aristhecargayandavgeek]

No Bogan Bus reference? Disappointed!! 😂😂😂

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Ha! Good point! 😂😂

[@pascale2]

Hi Patrick, another great video! The $1,490 and $1,710 are AUD, right? Still pretty pricy for a one way ticket on a... 6-7 hours (?) trip in a, well, basically premium economy seat. I would've felt ripped off.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Yea it’s AUD, but it’s definitely pricey. Cheaper than the Qantas flight however. Just depends what you’re looking for I guess

[@TaniTaniwha]

Nice balanced review, although "horrendous" is a pretty strong word for a personal view ( pun intended) of a window. Conversely, I like the shaded window and especially the huge size.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Yea fair… I do like the size of it. The 787-8 just has a negative reputation for the yellow-ish filter the window gives. This was improved on the -9 and -10 variants at least

[@mark123655]

Good review. The onboard service on JQ Business definitely sets it apart from Scoot and AirAsiaX (AirAsiaX has a better seat with an angled lie flat). Interestingly when Jetstar launched international this cabin was call StarClass, which i think is more apt.. but probably gets better sales as Business. Also Qantas FFrs get lounge benefits that othrr equivalent oneworld elites dont get given Jetstar isnt part of oneworld. (Afaik similar with BA and Level and Aer Lingus)

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Thanks! All good stuff to know!

[@camf7522]

When JQ launched their long haul fleet, initially A330s because of the delays with the B787s, what is know as business class was called Star Class because it wasn’t business class. I think it confused customers who just referred to business class. Personally, they should call it premium economy.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Yea… probably all comes down to the marketing of it

[@danielx6960]

Does/did JQ also fly to HNL from SYD? I was considering booking SYD-HNL with them as it's far cheaper than the other two options (QF and HA). The route shows up on Google Flights and third-party sites, but I'm not able to search for it from JQ's own site.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Interesting. As far I know it exists, but not every day I believe. JQ3 operates SYD-HNL

[@MLeonard317]

Great video. Thanks for sharing. In October I will be on Air France flight 001. JFK to CDG. I'm really excited

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Awesome! That’s a bucket list for me

[@Rocket-hb6jh]

Qantas’ flight to HNL has always been QF3, so the first flight to the USA was made JQ3 for familiarity. JQ1 was random but seemed to fit the MEL HO as QF1 is SYD to LHR which JQ will never operate. A tipi, if I may, when you say Qantas don’t pronounce it QantasEZZ, it’s very grating. If the word end in s the single apostrophe after the s means you don’t need to do that. Maybe it’s an Australian English vs US English thing??

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Thanks man! Sounds good

[@patriciafuchs5970]

Very interesting as always.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Thanks!

[@kawika6201]

Great concept offering the amenity kit to economy passengers! Do you know the additional cost or another carrier that does? I don't ever think I've noticed (time tag 18:01), "How to properly use a toilet" on an airplane before.🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

I don’t remember the cost, but you can book it at booking. Saudia is the only carrier that I’ve gotten amenity kits in economy, and those were free

[@kevinjohnson386]

Don't stress out young man anybody. Even you can get food poisoning in those extreme heat conditions. You just have to be careful what you read and how it's been refrigerated and how long it can be left out without being in the refrigerator after you eat main meal. Maybe you get some leftovers as we sit here in the United States and you get a doggy bag. Also when we're saying yes thanks and you bring it home

[@Rocket-hb6jh]

Jetstar Airways, Qantas Airways. Not airlines. Just because most US carriers use the moniker’airlines’, doesn’t mean everyone else does.

[@Masterleechan]

Good morning Patrick, I appreciate the hard work.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Thanks!

[@ohnene4936]

Love to see some content from my home airport and can't wait for more reviews!

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Thanks! Great to be in Melbourne always!

[@abdelkadermehiz9407]

I thought the ones was a title for the best and special flights 😂😅

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

I mean for Jetstar this is a “special” flight 🤷‍♂️

[@abdelkadermehiz9407]

Sure is for low-cost airline

[@funk44]

As a resident of Melbourne and regular traveler you missed out on nothing in the Qantas lounge. "The Basement" as it's known is complete shit and universally despised

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Good to know that it’s not worth a couple hundred extra dollars

[@botruong4102]

This business class seat look the same as American airline firstclass.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

The domestic first class, definitely

[@gunvaldsandhaland7757]

I Have A Simlar Produt Whit NORSE Atlantic Airways.Great Video And Info

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Awesome! I almost flew Norse, but they discontinued their SFO flights

[@gw6431]

you should have mentioned you were in melbourne ! i would have shouted you a coffee :)

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Heck yea man. Maybe next time!

[@gw6431]

@@PatrickSheaAviation let me know :)

[@jonasbrothersrockist]

Excellent video!

[@Bryce_y]

hey just curious what is your job? im curious what job lets you travel so much

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

I’m a pilot. So I’m either flying for work or pleasure basically every day 🥲

[@azzure001]

qantas international business lounge is dreadful. being in the basement doesn’t help.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Fair enough. Guess it isn’t worth that extra couple hundred bucks

[@Akry_RBLX]

What’s ur opinion on Melbourne airport?

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

It was nice. Although the QF business class lounge is a bit awkward of a space

[@Akry_RBLX]

@@PatrickSheaAviationahh yeah it’s getting renovated it’s all apart of the expansion plan, sorru for late reply

[@Akry_RBLX]

@@PatrickSheaAviationalso you should try Turkish airlines to Melbourne

[@soconner72]

haha the one!

[@billytoysandgames2128]

Wow! Man you flew them on their last day because a bankruptcy reason they are now retired

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Dang that’s wild… I hadn’t heard about them going away

[@misterhamez]

oopsie this video might get a lot of traction now

[@tekkieman]

Why can’t Americans pronounce the names of cities the way locals do?

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

I mean I could say the same thing about plenty of other nationalities when visiting America… but that’s just the way it is. If you’re not from somewhere, you’re bound to mispronounce things here and there

[@Alex-ci6oe]

We help him get more and more subscribers❤

[@andykillsu]

Need to get on that LOT1 soon!

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Totally! Working on the timing for that one!

[@paulsz6194]

As in LOT Polish Airlines? 🤔

[@composimple364]

When will you try out this airline 🥹 3:07 fly their long haul A350 business class