Pailhead - Trait (1988) [Full EP]

[@JMarinelli]

The drummer on "No Bunny" is the great Eric Spicer of Chicago punk legends Naked Raygun. Big respect.

[@Briannunez-gj8bj]

Ian McKay has done so much for music.....this is my favorite album of all time...highly underrated album

[@ikehubbs]

Been a big fan of Minor Threat and Ministry for years. Had no idea this EP existed. Feel like I was robbed of 30+ years. What a great EP!

[@newcoolwhat]

0:00 man should surrender 3:39 anthem 8:23 don't stand in line 12:09 ballad 16:00 i will refuse 20:16 no bunny

[@yvngxl]

god bless

[@ebonidickson6251]

💋

[@josephdonati3273]

A hero without the cape

[@robramsey5714]

Thanks Man!

[@WhispersOfRuins]

Listening in 2020 and couldn't be more revalent to our times

[@KarlLind]

S.A.L.V. This moment right now

[@WhispersOfRuins]

@@nashjeffers yes, I meant relevant, lol, thanks, updated

[@Mark-xw2rx]

No One care

[@WhispersOfRuins]

@@Mark-xw2rx just the way I like it

[@Veganrevwithzombies]

How did this record happen???? Ian and Minstry is a super unexplainable combo. There was an all-ages dance club in Chicago in the 80's called Medusas that played all rave-style dance music, My high school friend went there every week. I went with him a couple times. Every saturday they played I Will Refuse and there would be a circle pit every time. So weird.

[@lastup4170]

My band opened for them, pigface and ministry... Great time frame

[@gilgameshtardigrade2141]

@@lastup4170 your band being? I was probably at one of those shows if it was early - mid 90's

[@jovdam]

This was still fairly early days for Al - he hadn't derailed as much as he would in later years. Remember he started out playing sparkly glam pop. But yeah - can't imagine him being clean at the time and Ian overlooking his philosophy

[@johngillespie3409]

I saw the Exploited and Biohazard at medusas 1991. The pit for the Exploited was insane, skins all around it smash everyboby that came by. I went in once went straight across to the other side and walked around to my friends.

[@DawnwalkerUK]

Ian talks about it in an interview with Vish and Steve Albini. Basically says it was 'a wrinkle in time' and that he didnt know what he was getting into.

[@stephanvenner2939]

This Music never gets old.

[@foundatlantis]

skateboarding and falling over stuff 10/10

[@JFKFC13]

Wheels on Fire I believe. Or of Fire. Whatever. They have the VHS at a skate shop near me. The ramp scene with the punching dummy on a stick. I had a Jeff Phillips board at this moment in time.

[@stereotrofia8950]

This was a great record back in the day. Very much in vein of Killing Joke but hey, it's nothing wrong in taking inspiration from the best.

[@glenbellefonte9620]

I have tried for years to get into Killing Joke.

[@Ianhaubner]

Yeah, I'm glad Killing Joke took the advice

[@Randomcorpse]

Killing Joke are my favourite band. It's weird that I never thought about their influence on this particular album, but yeah. It's right there in every element. I guess I just never "connected the goddamned dots" :P

[@missednoahsarc2654]

Back in the 90s it took me forever to get this album now I can share it with everyone. To date still one of my fav collab album. Just perfection.

[@blueflowers151]

1988! the good ole days, sounds like Al Jorgensen meets Minor Threat/Fugazi .

[@andy_manns]

It's the Fugazi guy on vocals (Ian MacKaye)

[@seanr1013q]

@@andy_manns and MINISTRY

[@NOISEONOMICON]

they are!

[@jerrryjames]

Lol... that's exactly what this album is

[@reneharde3459]

Because it is - Jourgensen and McKay do something that is more like Killing Joke...

[@duanebonney]

Wow. Haven't heard this in 25 years!

[@TheGoblin1975]

more relevant than ever

[@the_eerie_faerie_tales]

What do you think now? LOL this shit is nuts!!

[@watamatafoyu]

Don't Stand in Line... great mix of Al and Ian.

[@Bunke09]

I played the crap out of this cassette! This and my VHS copy of In case you didn't feel like showing up concert were played daily for a good year at least.

[@bradleylowden9433]

This music isn't stuck in time.

[@darkmodern5333]

My soul died in Wax Trax in December of 1991. My body died in 2009 but my soul came back at least. Undeath is better than living was.

[@vincent9119]

What happened Dark Modern, did Al Jourgensen got you wasted??? ;)

[@blueflowers151]

i luv wax trax

[@michaelweaver4589]

Another awesome album that I had on a cassette that got damaged. Thanks for the upload, Max!

[@faulifauli1783]

same same :)

[@quazimodo1973]

thank you uploading this. i got this on vinyl when i came out and ive not hear it for 30 plus yrs... i will refuse is reignition and the soul awakens

[@michaelweaver6067]

Thanks a million for uploading this!

[@ignacioriesgogomez1527]

Gracias, Thanks!?👍🏻👍🏻🤟🏻🍀🍀👍🏻

[@stevechartrand4362]

Genius!!! Still

[@exexalien]

Lightning in a bottle! Any attempt to recapture this magic would have been/would be madness.

[@bvdatech1]

SKATE OR DIE

[@skawashers]

quality product

[@thebarbaryghostsf]

So much Killing Joke influence in this project

[@sicottish]

So much Fugazi and Ministry influence in this project....go figure.

[@unified_method]

@@sicottish There are indeed Kiling joke influences on this record, why the irony?

[@maxeypad]

Should of worn my Pailhead shirt today.

[@rp8211]

As many times as I've heard this song, I obviously hear uncle Al/ ministry influence, HOWEVER iam just now picking up not-so-subtle hints of KILLING JOKE. ... or is that just me?

[@NOISEONOMICON]

in fact is Al from Ministry and Ian Mackaye from MT/Fugazi

[@stephanvenner2939]

Maybe Paul Raven is on Bass Guitar?

[@johngrayatkinson1214]

Minor Ministry Great colaboration. Add Cavelera you got homemade dynomite

[@MrEyeM]

how about no. nowdays (since quite some years actually..) max cavalera has the reverse mida's touch

[@johngillespie3409]

@@MrEyeM he's had a lot of haters.

[@RobertoReyesChHC]

@@MrEyeM lol reverse Midas touch. That guy still has some good songs left in em he’s just lost a spark and I think the whole drama with Sepultura hasn’t helped

[@williamgraham363]

Mackaye sounds like al at some points, bad ass

[@Aimless_cursed_scrolling]

@@RobertoReyesChHC Derrick has been singing for sepultura longer than max was in the band, gotta let it go at this point.

[@madpanoverviewed4254]

Victory! There's more! Faster than light and Harder!

[@nicoguarini28]

Amebix meets Killing Joke in a accidental industrial explosion? Strange brew but it works. Never heard before. Nice.

[@simonmagus1892]

yeah this is more than a little derivative of killing joke's first album. especially the song "the wait" kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJmsnWurr6-nZrc

[@NOISEONOMICON]

it´s Ian Mackaye and Al Jourgensen. Mighy collab.

[@facet44]

Haha, truly. I am older than these musics, captured in time. It's definitely a vein, shared by many a sleeve. KJ, WxTrx, 'Gazi, all the sh*t. Genius flow. In a sub-sub-subgenre. And in part, entirely sober: xxx! It's bountiful balance which endures.

[@xMephitis666x]

This album is so f***** sick.

[@maxmordon7295]

EP*.

[@daniellewis409]

MINORSTRY

[@AnklepantsSkateZine]

Fugothi

[@nicholasromig5506]

hahaha

[@Mark-xw2rx]

Yesss

[@miczulpa727]

Relevant as hell.

[@MrWREV]

Skateboarding? This is discipline ..O:-)

[@matthiasmaczollek2942]

thx

[@bastalasalut]

they must had keep on this project

[@布衣-l1l]

The capitol on the cover is a little crazy now right?

[@Briannunez-gj8bj]

Ok I said this was my favorite album 3 years ago too

[@keithkickanigga]

Matt Hoffmans BMX introduced me to pailhead via i will refuse. The early 2000s treated me to good music

[@nolanduarte]

The algorithm read my mind and this appeared in suggested

[@karenbailey7081]

Reminds me of killing joke song

[@simonmagus1892]

the first song is a blatant ripoff of "the wait"

[@glenbellefonte9620]

@@simonmagus1892 Damn. You can't let it go, can you?

[@simonmagus1892]

@@glenbellefonte9620 nope

[@maxmordon7295]

@@simonmagus1892 Being an uninformed cυητ is OK... as long as you don't try to unnecessarily poison others with your ιdισcγ; if your eardrums were useful, you'd know that a minor 2nd interval is not the same as an augmented 4th/diminished 5th just by listening to it (intuitively). Have a nice day.

[@813lynch]

13 doses of acid * this is fucking tight

[@ukaszbiernat4305]

NO BUNNYYYYYY

Fuckin' eh! Thanks for sharing.

[@DanielAngeletti]

Pailhead needs to reunite

[@manuelplez6429]

cool ! 'sounds like killing joke .

[@chrisshervheim2520]

Oh yeah

[@spoilsofgrace5837]

WAXTRAXBAYBAY!!!

[@kristastiger]

Track 3 *"Don't Stand in Line"* was used in the Santa Cruz Streets On Fire skate video during the mini house ramp session. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJyVlH16jZinm7c #Sk8rBoy #80sKid #SantaCruzSkates

[@brianjnunez3384]

Well this is my favorite album...or is it minor threat outa step

[@afauxican_american]

Murder and weather is our only news I will refuse!

[@schwinnbike18]

Santa Cruz Skateboards

[@stefanoferuglio7050]

🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘👍👍👍👍👍🖤🖤😎😎⚡⚡⚡

[@cristianordenescalvert3601]

This is pure dynamite! It makes me remember Bleach of Nirvana, Greetings

[@paul-olof]

Black Box

[@joshshanks4550]

Santa Cruz cory o brian

[@teofeo333]

this live was like sex in a car crash, so lovely but most people wouldn't get it

[@artificialenergie]

They never played live with Ian though….

[@2xMegaLoco]

they are Bob Marley of punk

[@sikskejt6103]

Misled Youth

[@larryphillipsjr.1607]

😉

[@levioftelie9405]

Surrealism, actually

[@BlueArcStreaming]

Fugistry

[@saidceromaldad5864]

MINSITRY THREAT

[@simonmagus1892]

this is such a killing joke ripoff. the first song sounds *exactly* like "the wait" off their 1980 album, right down to the tempo, guitar riff/tone, rhythm, drum beat, and overall production. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJmsnWurr6-nZrc

[@midnighttomidnight7604]

Listen to Car Trouble by Adam and the Ants, from '79, and you'll hear where Killing Joke got some of their sound.

[@larryphillipsjr.1607]

"God Bless Amerikkka" 😂🇺🇸

[@discharge29]

Killing Joke anyone?

[@KevKavanagh]

Why, because the vocals occasionally sound a tiny bit like Jaz Coleman? Nup, not even close.

[@discharge29]

@@KevKavanagh chill out out - it was only an observation

[@unified_method]

Totally influenced in many ways not only the voice like the agressive fan boy pointed out.

[@rossturcotte419]

🌈

[@jukepablooner]

F$$k you al you still owe me from your fuk up at Lollapalooza tour in Los Angeles you were so fup you did a one hit wonder super automatic fuk u all pay up I went and paid the ticket to see ministry

[@blueflowers151]

huh? lalapaloser? lol hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahhhahah thats the worse festival, the festival of POSERS!

[@stevenmccarthy534]

Uuuhhh,????? Huh??

[@jukepablooner]

@@stevenmccarthy534 pailhead is a collaboration between Ian from minor threat and al jourgensen from ministry....

[@stevenmccarthy534]

@@jukepablooner I'm aware of who Pailhead is!! Hahaha 🤣 I just didn't understand your post about lollapalooza!!

[@jukepablooner]

@@stevenmccarthy534 in 1992 ministry headlined the lollapalooza tour I went to the Los Angeles show my problem was ministry only played 2 songs due to the fact that jourgensen was 2 fucked up to play...basically ripped me off

[@TheBigMclargehuge]

McKay is such a hack.