How Indifference to TMS Pain Rewires the Brain

I speak often about developing a mindset of indifference towards your pain or symptoms. This video explains why that's a great idea.
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[@lisab9734]

I use curable and have the 28 day unlearn you pain book. Both very helpful but your videos are what has helped me the most. Thanks dan! I have noticed such a big difference in just a couple of months after having pain for 20 years!! I really appreciate you and the time you take to make these videos. Have a great day xx

[@rstein3131]

For the last two days, I have been having an uptick in pain. I was so close to calling my doctor to make yet another useless appointment. This has been my go-to vlog to calm my brain down.

[@PainFreeYou]

Perfect. Have you seen my fast start playlist: DansFastStart.com

[@dbpook]

Beautiful teaching, thank you! Another word for indifference is equanimity, mental calmness in a difficult situation. Also detachment. Just allow the symptoms to be as they are, stop struggling to solve a problem - that creates emotional turmoil. What you resist persists. Instead, acknowledge the symptoms, simply allow them to be and move on. Lose interest in the drama. Instead, become super absorbed with some activity, so busy living that you forget about them. This will re-train your brain. Acceptance, release and redirection is the key practice. Our ability to choose our thoughts is incredibly powerful, and learning this lesson could be the spiritual purpose behind this suffering.

[@PainFreeYou]

Well said. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experience.

[@Ana-cb2wb]

Any advice to get engaged and be distracted in activities when you get depression symptoms and loose interest and focus on any activity?

[@hew195050]

My homeopath told me this years ago, to allow it. I believe now there is more truth in that than anything else. Fighting it makes it strong as hell.

[@karenrobargemacon68]

To add my 2 cents which I hope is encouraging-- I had 7 sessions last summer with one of Alan Gordon's therapists from the Pain Psychology Center. She taught me about this--exactly what Dan says--and I was hard-headed but finally got it. She explained that "corrective experiences' are vitally important and she likened them to phobia therapy I had 30 years ago where I had severe phobias of certain things such as elevators. Whenever I tried to ride one, I would be so terrified of having a panic attack that I woul, indeed., have a panic attack. Every time was worse. The psychologist took me to different buildings with elevators and did exposure therapy. The goal was to gradually expose myself to elevators while using self-talk and other techniques to stay calm. Every time I successfully stayed kinda calm was a corrective experience. Repeated corrective experiences over time rewire the brain. It worked! I've never had a problem with elevators since. So the pain therapist told me not to expect to immediately become indifferent but to just work on it. It takes time to learn. The pain was going to a 10 at least a couple hours nearly every day. I really worked in it and for the last 4+ months, the pain has never topped a 7. Dramatic improvement? No, but it's helped a lot because I no longer have to spend time in bed every afternoon in agony. and I know if I keep working on it along with other tools I'll get there.

[@PainFreeYou]

Very interesting. Thank you for sharing your experience with us.

[@joaniemiller4362]

My pain starts usually at around 4pm and comes in waves, but I keep going. I meditate and stay active. This whole indifference mind set is sometimes hard to comprehend. Like really defining what that feels like. I mean I can’t pretend I’m not hurting, I can’t laugh and say this is great everything is coming up roses. So today around 6pm I road my bike even though I was in pain, I said who cares . I want to get in shape and have a good cardio exercise that’s important to me and I’m not going to let the pain dictate my life. After I got home I was still hurting not as bad but still . So I listened to this video you posted Dan and I relaxed and told myself “who care if I’m hurting . I said in my mind I’m o.k. So what. I rested a bit probably 15 minutes and got up and swept the floor and grilled hotdogs and hamburgers for the family. My pain went from a 7 to a 3 . Thanks Dan ! I’m going to really work on this who gives a sh%# attitude lol . And see what happens.

[@PainFreeYou]

You just PROVED that making a decision to not care works. Keep at it and the brain will get the message that there's not need for the pain. Love your experience.

[@chana5770]

I was diagnosed with Fibromyalgia in the 1980's and had many wonderful years and experiences with the symptoms. I traveled and enjoyed life. I found Dr. Sarno's book in 1990's. I traveled with his book in my luggage. I was motivated to enjoy life with my symptoms. Recently I got new symptoms and remembered Dr. Sarno's book. Thank you Dan.

[@PainFreeYou]

You are welcome Linda. Bravo for you continuing to live.

[@ChrisSaenz13]

Your videos are helping me so much! As I was listening to this one, I remembered one symptom that I suffered with for so long (way before learning anything about TMS) - it was this terrible ice pick pain at my ear whenever air/breeze would touch my left ear. I freaked & had all kinds of tests convinced I must be very sick ... had to wear ear muffs even in the summer to walk. .. but doctors found nothing wrong. I kept telling myself nothing is actually wrong & did my best to ignor it ... and after awhile it never happened again. I just made a list today in my journal of all the symptoms over the years that I dealt with starting in childhood ... it's like a junk yard of discarded ailments ... somehow I was convinced my back pain was the exception & was due to a structural something or other arthritis but now I found Dr. Sarno's work & also just by luck my recent images show the exact same thing as when I was 28 years old (nothing worse or scary) & I have had YEARS free of that back pain... until extreme stress & emotions recently triggered a real impressive horror show lasting 7 weeks ... and somehow I found out about TMS. I'm just so grateful. Im almost out of pain now. I know this TMS is what has caused my buffet of symptoms over the years and I'm doing the work including indifference to the best of my ability. Thank you for being such a lifeline in teaching and encouraging us!!!

[@PainFreeYou]

What a fantastic story and testament to the power of indifference and not giving the symptom attention or fear.

[@hew195050]

After years of horrible pain and isolating myself I decided life wasn’t going to wait for me so I invited a couple gals over for dinner. Days before I was concerned I’d feel horrible but I said to myself, I’m going to do it no matter what I feel. The day of the dinner I cooked and cleaned and when my friends came, straight thru til bedtime I felt ZERO pain. ZERO! When I went upstairs and got ready for bed the perception of pain all came back again. So there ya have it! No more proof needed.

[@PainFreeYou]

Such a common experience.

[@davep1715]

This is mind blowing Dan, mind blowing. It’s so difficult to fully grasp this. It’s one thing to say I logical understand, but to fully grasp it is another thing.

[@PainFreeYou]

Embrace it. Here's the full set of suggestions. They work when you get them all dialed in. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aaetmHWkp815qpo

[@davep1715]

Thanks Dan!

[@aprilsky1666]

Thank you my wise friend. I really appreciate all you do.

[@PainFreeYou]

Thank you April.

[@robertklose2059]

This is so therapeutic Dan. I have pudendal neuralgia. I’ve been putting your teachings into practise for app. 3 weeks. I can’t say I’ve noticed a difference yet and I still have unpredictable flare ups but I totally believe in what you’re saying and I’m going to soldier on with the concept of indifference no matter what.

[@PainFreeYou]

This explains what causes pain. Safety is the solution. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qp-4Z354dttonMk kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4TWfKF3nKappLs

[@radhika5101]

This is a wonderful lesson to be revisited as often as possible! Thank you. It's really about belief, isn't it? How totally do I believe that my mind has caused these symptoms....that there is nothing wrong with the body.

[@PainFreeYou]

Study the Dr. Sarno books. Do the self assessment which can tell you if your pain is created by the mind. DanBuglio.com/paintest

[@gayleosborne5109]

Fantastic Dan!!

[@kathleenwharton2139]

I have absolutely NO Fear of my pain or symptoms at all..I know they are just sensations. Dr. Sarno has the key to my problem..and that is ANGER. I have gigantic Anger at the controlling religionists who ruined my Life. My pain and symptoms came when I was being controlled and Now the pain and symptoms Come because of my realization and Anger of having my life controlled. This is what I have to learn to be indifferent to..The Anger to having my life controlled and ruined by these people. This is the Challenge for me. I must come to a forgiveness and a Peace to what happened to me by these people..and a forgiveness to myself for allowing it. But the principles are the same. Keep practicing the Right Mindset until I accomplish my goal. I will be Well when I can be ok and at least close to indifferent with what happened to me.

[@wholly_power_productions]

This is such, such, such good news, Dan! Learning the art of indifference has moved me forward in strides. ❤ Thank You ❤

[@PainFreeYou]

Wonderful.

[@MegaFitness73]

Another great video, Dan!

[@gracefitzgerald2227]

Working on sitting as I watch this. Thank you!

[@rle440]

This video clicked with me! Outstanding advice.

[@PainFreeYou]

Awesome!

[@Pumasarrar]

This is a great video - particularly the bit where you say that pain is an emotion, too. I’m rediscovering TMS after a persistent eyelid twitch, shoulder pain, piriformis syndrome, nausea, bursitis and sacroiliac joint pain. There are many things in my life I’m angry at, and a general sense of overwhelm and shutting down. I shall now practice indifference to my physical symptoms and become more curious and loving towards my inner self

[@marymcevillyhernandez-imag9888]

The Monster in the closet is not a silly example. It is exactly one of my experiences! LOL. This was a very valuable video. Thanks so much!

[@PainFreeYou]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@privateperson5769]

I think it is a great concept. Just try it right, and if u can't do it everytime, don't beat yourself up, like u possibly usually do, if u r anything like me. I am doing this concept now. for my chronic pain. TY !

[@PainFreeYou]

It takes practice for sure. Perfection is not required. Just keep going.

[@marlymar7825]

Extremely valuable video Dan, thank you again for everything you do to educate us through your videos..🙏🏼🙏🏼 This is the perfect time for me to hear the wise advice, experiencing a lot of sensations since I started doing more and even jogging after a decade or longer of not allowing myself to do that, out of fear... I have the mistake of allowing the frustration in when the sensations return, even some that were gone for months or longer..😕😓 needed to hear this to continue to reassure my brain that I’m ok and it’s just my brain going to the habitual old pathways.. working on it Dan.. thank you everyone who is also part of this journey for sharing your experiences, reading comments really helps..🙏🏼

[@PainFreeYou]

Thanks Marly. Really glad to be a part of your journey. And yes, the comments are super helpful as well.

[@arieldeangelo441]

I love this video so much (and all of your videos). I always come back to them if I find myself going off track. It takes me right back to where I need to be. Thank you Dan!

[@PainFreeYou]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@lesliebaird1006]

Dan, I can't thank you enough for what you do! I finally understand!!!! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

[@PainFreeYou]

You are so welcome!

[@jameshaughey3212]

Viva la indifference!!! Gonna try it thanks!!! You are very helpful!!!! You are making a difference!!

[@PainFreeYou]

Thank you James.

[@patriciaolds9408]

Perfect timing for me today!! Thank You!! I’m new to this and am totally on board! And then, there are some days.....

[@PainFreeYou]

You got this!

[@christieharrison560]

Excellent Video Dan. This for me has been the missing piece of the puzzle I think. Since last week finding your work and starting to practice indifference, I have found that I am able to do more, get on with my life and have achieved so many wins this week that I am amazed. I have been doing PRT since October but not practising indifference and this I now know is the key to the puzzle as you have said. I still have the sensations but I get on with my day, sometimes it is easier than others but my body is taking note and creating less pain. I am so grateful I found you and this community :) So today I have a headache but I am off to the gym this morning and it will not stop me from enjoying my workout. Meh is all I have to say to it! Meh (I really don't care that you are there any more pain).

[@PainFreeYou]

Meh - great approach. :-)

[@daniellef7261]

Thanks Dan you've helped so many people. Great video here. Havent even read Sarno but read Schubiners book. You r right .... indifference is key - the proverbial .....forget about it

[@PainFreeYou]

Exactly.

[@peterwu8471]

Yeah - allowing, indifference... that's the holy grail. Pain is awful. So hard to let go.

[@lennekevanrossum8422]

Hi Dan watched the video really helped me being indifferent about my pain is the answer thank you love Lenneke 😘

[@melodiegraber4730]

So helpful. Thanks so much.

[@PainFreeYou]

Glad it was helpful!

[@nightlily3855]

Very helpful as always, Dan!

[@PainFreeYou]

Glad to hear it!

[@dianerobichaud8609]

Everything IS where everything IS suppose to be. Think positive and if IT happens IT happens if IT does not IT does not..

[@peterwu8471]

I can be indifferent! I can be happy in pain.... I think I can.

[@NEChristo]

lol how can I be indifferent when I can barely wipe my ass? I appreciate the comic relief Dan. 😂

[@donp11]

thank you !

[@PainFreeYou]

You're welcome!

[@bigpolish007]

Random question that I suppose doesn't matter but... I have talked tots of chronic pain people who don't know about TMS but they DO say they don't let it bother them or interfere with their lives and don't seem obsessed over it like I'm trying to stop. Shouldn't these people be healing if they are following the advice even if they don't understand it from a mind body perspective? I'm jealous if them because they seem to get it more than I do and they don't even know about this stuff!

[@PainFreeYou]

These are people who have learned to "live with it". However, if they still think they have a "bad back" and don't know the accurate information that most pain is created by the brain, they will likely "live with it" for the rest of their lives.

[@monicahanlin504]

Hi Dan, how do we feel safe when the symptom is vertigo, not pain? Feels out of control. When at home, I know what to do. But at a new job or out and about, it can feel scary. Thank you I love you.

[@PainFreeYou]

You can still remain calm, take precautions and remind yourself that you will be okay. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKXLiWlobpaGopI&pp=gAQBiAQB

[@JL-tj9hi]

The best tool for indifference is outcome independance

[@PainFreeYou]

Yes, those two are tightly intertwined.

[@wednesdayschild3627]

I think my allergies caused dry eye. Allergy is highly psychosimatic.

[@Sailormoonc3038]

I believe in TMS but I also cannot let go of my medication. I have been feeling worse. I am fearful that my medication is actually the reason why I am feeling worse. It is also causing a lot of scary side effects It is only recommended by one respected doctor while 4 of my other doctors disagreed to use it. I cannot let go of it because I am still hoping of the magic cure....I don’t know how long I should keep trying. I have negative thoughts daily (fear, anxiety, frustration)...it’s also the thought that I might be doing more harm than good at this point makes me feel horrible. Yesterday someone on FB mentioned this drug might cause headache. I have a bad headache this morning......😣

[@davep1715]

I stopped my pain meds based on tms not needing them and it had been a monkey off my back. My pain has decreased since because I was in fear of stopping them.

[@PainFreeYou]

Medication is for temporary relief. It is NOT the cure for chronic pain. If you don't like taking the meds - work with the doctor to taper off of them. They aren't a cure. The process to get well begins here: Here are my recommendations: Learn the cause of chronic pain: (accept it) PainFreeYou.com Find out if your pain is able to be eliminated. A score of over 29 is TMS and can be eliminated. DanBuglio.com/paintest Once you know the cause of pain and know your pain can be eliminated, here is the roadmap to achieving that. Watch the video, take notes and take action on ALL of the concepts. They ALL matter. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aaetmHWkp815qpo You can do this. Follow the steps above.

[@dariatreptan5208]

Hey Dan, what if the pain is strongly connected with a physical thing like peeing. Not always but very often after urination my pain immediately flares or appears out of nowhere. It feels like I’m irritation a nerve during urination. It’s hard for me to explain it as tms because I can feel all good during the day then I go to the toilet and pain starts immediately. Do you have an opinion on that?

[@PainFreeYou]

Yes, all that means is that the brain LEARNED that peeing is "dangerous". But it's not. We were designed to urinate. The body is not being damaged by that bodily function. But a hyper sensitive brain operating on misinformation and fear can cause the symptoms. Perceived danger explains it perfectly. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qp-4Z354dttonMksi=tyM6dVTHGiadMQId

[@dariatreptan5208]

@PainFreeYou thank you so much for getting back to me and answering❤️

[@crh251]

Dan, would you say that “indifference” has worked more for you than anything else (ie. journaling daily)?

[@PainFreeYou]

Yes, and I get SO many comments from people who have journaled for a long time and they got well once they learned to be indifferent to the pain.

[@SoulGPS]

It clicked! 😃

[@PainFreeYou]

Awesome!

[@SoulGPS]

Your work is invaluable, Dan! I’ve been recommending your channel to my clients. Another great channel is Dr. Eckberg though he deals with the nutrition side of healing and explains how the body works. Blessings to you!

[@MegaFitness73]

Dan, do you know many people that cured their chronic tinnitus?

[@PainFreeYou]

I know several for sure. But only two that did a formal success story with me. kzbin.info/www/bejne/n57NY5qPiMSpnsU kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2mppWajord3d68

[@MegaFitness73]

@@PainFreeYou I'm having great breakthroughs with most of everything, except the tinnitus. It really doesn't want to stop for some reason.

[@PainFreeYou]

Fear and attention keep it going. Do your best to not care if it's there or not. @@MegaFitness73

[@applej3496]

Anything on disassociation depersonalization list COVID

[@PainFreeYou]

I have not yet done a video on disassociation or depersonalization, but I absolutely see that experience as something created by a brain perceiving danger. This video on Perceived Danger Pain / Symptoms explains a bit more. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qp-4Z354dttonMk

[@applej3496]

@@PainFreeYou thank you for responding and guiding me in a good direction! I’m super appreciative😊

[@PainFreeYou]

@@applej3496 My pleasure.

[@AMBoyd721]

I’m struggling with this right now and experiencing a terrible flare. I’m new on my journey & haven’t eliminated my pain yet. I don’t think I’m giving attention to my fatigue, fibro, endometriosis, insomnia & headache. I’m not complaining about it per se. But I do know it’s why I’m more anxious & doubting whether I can handle the stresses of the day. My son is doing fully remote and I’m struggling. The pressure of trying to help him constantly and not being able to have a clear thought. Then there’s confusion with technology etc. What I am asking is what do you do if you know you’re not actively trying to keep the fear alive? How can you get into that mindset? I don’t know if any of this makes sense. I believe & know this is TMS. I don’t think I’m keeping the fear going but my stress is. I tried to meditate & read my affirmations this morning but still just so anxious every minute. I also am experiencing some fatigue because I think I included more physical activity too much too soon. I’m going to be more mindful & kinder to myself.

[@AMBoyd721]

I guess what I’m asking is.... Is stress & freaking out about it a way of sending a fear signal to my body? Even if it’s a stress signal?

[@PainFreeYou]

Try not to over-think it. Overall, we want to teach the brain that we are not broken physically, mentally or emotionally. The concepts in this video are all you need to end your symptoms. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aaetmHWkp815qpo

[@PainFreeYou]

And yes - freaking out about symptoms tell the brain you are in danger.

[@AMBoyd721]

Pain Free You I wasn’t sure feeling stressed & overwhelmed was considered freaking out about my symptoms. But it makes sense.

[@Ana-cb2wb]

Does this apply to depression/anxiety symptoms?

[@PainFreeYou]

Absolutely it does. Focus on messages of safety. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4TWfKF3nKappLs

[@maryjovranizan7254]

Dan could you please give examples of indifferent comments to ourselves - those based in love and those based in fear. Or does our brain know the difference?

[@PainFreeYou]

I'll add this topic to my list. Basically - indifference literally means, don't care if you hurt or not. Live your life and shift your focus to anything other than your pain/symptoms. Do that consistently. Fear is the fuel that keeps the symptoms persistent.

[@elaineremains]

but isn't baaaad pain something dangerous in itself? it steals your life, how can i say it's not dangerous?

[@PainFreeYou]

Not necessarily. It depends what is causing your pain. Read a book by Dr John Sarno. I like "The Mindbody Prescription". In it, he describes a very common cause of pain and the fact that most pain is not caused by abnormalities in the body. While pain IS a danger signal, but in most cases, the body is fine. If you'd like a quick introduction to the concepts, you can watch a video at: PainFreeYou.com Then, to see if your pain is able to be eliminated, take this quick pain quiz: DanBuglio.com/paintest And once you understand what is going on, the suggestions in this video are how you can begin to reverse it and turn down and eventually turn off the pain. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aaetmHWkp815qpo I would encourage you to do a little more research into the concepts I'm sharing before you discard it as not relevant or not possible. In either case, I wish you the very best.

[@cdracos1]

Step by step you steal it back and during the journey you will experience reduced symptom moments, that really boost your confidence that the pain is fake in regard to structure . Then its up to you, if you choose to buy into fake stuff or not care for it . During first attempts the concept seems totally wacko! , and angrily frustrating !, and even cause flares as tms symptoms fight back for your attention. Until you have just one moment when you didn't notice the symptoms because your mind was on another path .

[@elaineremains]

@@PainFreeYou thanks for your help, i've read both of Sarno's books, and even talked to him on the phone, he said i need therapy, which i can't afford

[@elaineremains]

@@cdracos1 thank you, your response was quite beautiful

[@cdracos1]

@@elaineremains just like me 😁😁😁

[@edsparky7512]

👍TY … if you literally don’t care … no problem 🍩☕️