TBS Caipirinha II iNav wing build using Matek F405-Wing flight controller

[@DXBJ4]

This is the best build that i have ever seen in my whole life, you are seriously an a professional in this field, thank you for posting this video it made my life easy, i would build one like yours using the F722 flight controller

[@sushia.f.1809]

PERFECT! So glad you got the matek in the build. I have the same parts and now a way to go at it. Awesome awesome awesome!

[@toreer66]

I'm in the progress of setting up the same ving with the F722 FC which I believe that is is similar in size as the F402. I have no problem soldering the leads directly to the board but would prefer plugs. What do you think about using soldering on 90 degree connectors and maybe cut off some parts of the foam to give some space for the servo and ESC plugs? Since the connections will be in the rear, front and back it is no problem to get some free space by putting the FC to one side of the bay.

[@datfella9063]

Nice tidy cable runs, looks great, hope you get many flights on it ! :)

[@t.n.2297]

This video was extremely helpful for me. Thank you. If I may, I would love to see a video tutorial for INAV on this specific build. I'm new to INAV and will be commencing a build inspired by yours (Cap 2, f405, GPS, crossfire) and am a bit intimidated getting my channels and modes and endpoints/sub trim and GPS rth/failsafe done with confidence. Right now I feel like I'm piecing a dozen videos together. I wouldn't be able to thank you enough if you did that or if unable a resource that helped you. Thanks!

[@Painless360]

My 'Introduction to iNav' series (mentioned in the video) is designed to cover all you need to know. The basics are the same for any build. I also added an F35 to a wing in anorher series too.. Best of luck!

[@adamkelly6264]

great build, very neat. Keen to see some flight test vid and maybe a review of the flight controller.

[@Painless360]

I've already made a video on the FC, linked in the video.. Happy flying!

[@themanthemyththelegend1392]

HOLY SHIT! That is a super clean my man, I tip my hat to you sir.

[@WX4CB]

Just a note, if you ever cartwheel or #landed it, expect to lose the gopro mount. i'm working with brain3d on a TPU mount to replace it. what I would suggest is find some way to tether a streamer or a fishing line to the aircraft so you don't lose it when it ejects. and trust me. it WILL eject lol My current gopro is sitting in a swampy field for the last 4 days, hopefully i'll find it before they mow/hay the field. There's also vented TPU covers you can get for the underside bays and also for underneath the ESC bay at the back of the rear firewall. I'm using the F35 from furious FPV and have on e of these sitting in a draw, so i might rebuild my other Caipi2 with that. :D btw, if you need a spare motor eventually, let me know i have a couple spares :D

[@joolski]

Great video, just about to build another Capi 2 with the F405-WING, some excellent tips there. Very neat installation, Many thanks.

[@PeterSpringhall]

Great build. 8 core is great for long runs. Is there a maiden video? Can’t see how it flew?

[@gwizzfpv6741]

hi your videos are very good ,i need to ask i have a tbs nano and i was thinking can i wire the GPS & COMPASS MODULE M8Q-5883 matek da pin to the da pin on the nano and the cl from the gps to cl on the nano just to get the compass working then would i need to flash inav onto the board?

[@CDigata]

Nice im glad you managed to use the Matek F405 look forward to the flight and to see what you think

[@CradyLab]

Sweet! How clean is the supply to the VTX and camera coming off the F405-Wing - any need to add an LC filter?

[@Painless360]

Seems to be good - so far...

[@CradyLab]

@@Painless360 Cool. Thanks!

[@drvimalan]

Hi, What type of OLED screen you are using here? I am building thins wing following your build. Hope to hear from you. Thankyou for this very nice video!

[@Painless360]

something like this -startingelectronics.org/tutorials/arduino/modules/OLED-128x64-I2C-display

[@chinny0803]

Great build video! I would like to build a Caipirinha 2 soon and was wondering if you would use the same components if you were building one in 2023?

[@Painless360]

F405 wing board and Walksnail Now... Happy flying

[@Caroline_Tyler]

May I ask why you didn't take the power for the OLED from the 5v next to the data and ground connectors you connected to?

[@Painless360]

Just my choice. The are lots of less complex builds on the channel. If you're new.. Best of luck!

[@martinglenkenny]

Hi Painless 360, thank you for your continued great videos and I hope you keep the good work up. I've just purchased the F405 board and I'm setting it up using the traditional PWM setup and Im kind of lost as to where I should connect my outputs from the board to the receiver for PWM setup. I understand I need to connect the inputs servos to the S3S4S5S6S7S8 section of the board and Ive watched your videos on this board but you are not using PWM setup. Sorry for my ignorance and your help would be greatly appreciated. Martin.

[@jasonroy1141]

Thanks so much for this. I will be building one exactly like this. Thanks to you!

[@adamrose2761]

Can you please make an updated version with the Matek F405 Wing V2? No has a good version to help noobs with wiring plan. Might be useful to use the crossfire nano rx you mentioned also. In any case thanks for the excellent advice and videos!

[@Painless360]

Setup steps are exactly the same. They changed the MCU, IMU, Baro and moved a few of the pins about but the setup steps are identical to all of the other INAV series on the channel.. best of luck.

[@adamrose2761]

Brilliant, thank you.

[@Slash7FPV]

Very nice work, will use many of your tipps on my incoming S1100 build which also has got bays right and left of the canopy. I´m wondering why you haven´t connected the compass of the gps module? Is there no use for it in iNav or the Matek F405? Thank´s a lot for sharing this build!

[@Painless360]

The reasoning behind the compass is all covered in my iNav fixed wing videos and the iNav documentation. Best of luck!

[@marksol4751]

did you connect any bec to power the servos? is it really required? I'm using f35 flight controller. Thanks so much.

[@Painless360]

The F405 has a decent 5v BEC for the servos. See my build with the F35 for how I did that one..

[@barrycole8378]

I am trying to set one of these up for a Multiplex Twin star. (Remember them?). I have the servos and GPS all working, and the arming switch shows as working, but I cannot gt the motors to run. On the Inav motors page the graphic moves with the throttle stick, but whatever I try, will not make the motors turn. The ESCs and motors will run direct from the Rx. Help please, it is driving me crazy.

[@Painless360]

Assuming that you've set everything up correctly (esc setting in the configuration tab and arming ok) I'd try swapping one of the known good servo outputs with the throttle to rule out a hardware problem on the output pins.. Best of luck

[@Fukaka2343]

Hi, for the Bluetooth, I have connect the Bluetooth hm-10 with baud at 19200 and enabled msp on uart1 and set the same baud on Bluetooth , however the speedybee app keeps timing out , how did u connect your board using Bluetooth?

[@Painless360]

I remember reading somewhere that the application will only talk to the speedybee USB devices. Best of luck

[@pereoz]

Bravo! This is a masterpiece

[@Painless360]

Thank you. If you like that then check out my Drak, AR Wing PRO and Blackhawk builds... Happy flying

[@austntexan]

Where is the current sensor on the PCB? It mentions it in the Maytek F405-Wing PDF, but I'm not seeing it. Is it possible to add a standard 3rd party APM power module/current sensor?

[@Painless360]

It's on there - www.mateksys.com/?portfolio=f405-wing - no need to add anything else.. Best of luck!

[@TobyMuirson]

Hi Lee, I know this video is old now but because of this I've ordered a Tbs caip 2. I will probably set it up the simulator. I have a question though and I couldnt find the answers. Would the flarm system on the tbs diversity rx work with inav?

[@Painless360]

Not sure, I've not played with the FLARM system myself. Best of luck with the build!

[@TobyMuirson]

@@Painless360 Do you have a cli file of this build?

[@mdmkoopman]

Great build! good point about connecting the shield to ground, if you leave the shield unconnected it basicly become an antenna. This could make matters worse instead of better. kudos

[@chrisjames9150]

just did nearly the same build with a arwing was able to use pinouts with it since the bay is so big

[@RobertSmith-dq6hy]

Well done Lee... awesome clean build bro ..... bravo !! Just about 2 build the same setup ... many thanks 4 the tips and layout ideas .... luv u man !!

[@NOXFPV]

Thanks! Adding one to my first wing.

[@QuadDamageFPV]

Very tidy, but looks tricky with the soldering. Looking forward to a maiden. 👍

[@Painless360]

Yep, you need to be decent with the iron here.. Happy flying!

[@kevintatum4903]

i know its older but im amazed at how well you put everything together. Im assumingthat its not possible to use a pixhawk cube in this model? would you prefer the cube over this fc?

[@Painless360]

If it's Arduplane you want then check out the latest builds on the channel where I'm using it with things like the Omnibus and the Matek F405-Wing FCs..

[@MCsCreations]

Beautiful work, man. Awesome! 😊 When you can, please post a flight video! 😉

[@Painless360]

I will, I need a day when I'm with another pilot who can operate the camera and in a place where I have permission to share the FPV footage.. iNav launch mode is VERY handy for this model..

[@steveallam]

Very nice toriel and build....I like your style. I build the TBS wing using all TBS gear TBS zero zero camra, Vision VTX, Colibri Race FC and two GPS's and crossfire working on I NAV which is more compact then your build and is not as stright forward as yours much harder to set up and get it all working. Kodos on the build mate!

[@ethoiguess9448]

100% nice job

[@DrewLittleFPV]

I just built nearly the same thing but with f405 osd, I have 5mm of reflex and 60% travel on servos. does that sound about right? I am getting about 13mm of travel on elevons in both directions in manual mode. I wish i would of thought to use shielded cable. Your build came out very nice!

[@peterott8053]

Hi boys, checking in late @painless360 I built a caipirinha and test flew it a few times with my buddy. When in manual mode, full pitch, thrown by my buddy, it goes straight out and starts to climb as desired. But when thrown in autolaunch (It goes into anglemode, full throttle like described above) it first falls down a several meters unti it starts to climb. Stall speed is at about 45km/h (in angle mode, the pitch has not enough power to further pitch up). Would you say its too nose heavy then? any experience?

[@Painless360]

With heavy wings I usually have the launch idle set high to help avoid that exact thing - see my Autolaunch setup video where I talk about it...

[@FarmerFpv]

I really love how you use ethernet cable or the multi-strand cable that shielded very brilliant Lee sorry I haven't contacted you yet been having issues with my inav Nano Goblin just been sick hopefully you'll still be able to help me when I feel better. Have a blessed Lee 🙏

[@seniorblackfox7001]

Painless, Thanks for all the super videos… always my first choice for finding information on my projects/problems’ This is a little off subject but I have a couple of F4 Omnibus boards and a Matek F405 Wing running iNav and have seen some info on putting Audupilot on these. I would like to try it but want to make sure I have adequate information before going ahead. Did you or will you make a video showing the process of loading Audupilot on the F405 Wing or a source of info on this? Thanks, Jerry

[@Painless360]

When the code and implementations are a little more solid. I did mention this in my recent 'Flight controller comparison' update video but will only look at it once a little time has passed - else I'll end up doing all the 'support' for the project ;)

[@seniorblackfox7001]

Wise decision. I'm in no hurry so I will just wait for this to mature and stick with iNav. Thanks

[@davidmarkwood7314]

Brilliant video just what I was looking for ... Thanks for your time great job.....

[@pvenzELP]

Nice build . I'm running the F405 in a wing also , BUT !!!... I'm getting a bunch of lines in the video . I've tried putting an inline LC filter and a separate 12v BEC and I still have lines on throttle up . I thought the F405 would have enough filtering that I wouldn't need to worry about that , but that's not the case . Hopefully you dont have the same problem.

[@mikekenyon9789]

I have a Caipirinha (flies great) going to convert to iNav. However, how do you set the reflex on it? Do you do that mechanically so the iNav thinks the midpoint on the sticks is center, but you have shortened the linkage rods to give that 5% (roughly) reflex required? Keep up the great work. :-)

[@Painless360]

Please see my iNav series where I cover the steps you need to go through to set everything up so it works fine in manual mode to. Best of luck

[@mikekenyon9789]

@@Painless360 Ok thanks.

[@Painless360]

It’s key to follow all the steps in the video (the same as in the iNav docs) to avoid any nasty surprises.. :) best of luck!

[@humbertomontalban3932]

Fantastic work.

[@carbidedge]

Great video, I want to do the same but with DJI Ocusync air system, I hope the latency would not be an issue on a wing. Appreciate your thoughts.

[@Painless360]

I've not used it myself, what I've heard of it seem good..

[@ladraode9dedos409]

Super nice! meks me feel like building one myself!

[@KurtisRupnow]

If you have FrSky telemetry, you don't need the oled screen. The iNav lua will display if you have gps lock, and other parameters, right on your Taranis.

[@Painless360]

Yep, and in the OSD too. For my pre flight I’ve got used to the status right there in the plane in the OLED. You can build it, and fly it how you want. All options valid.. ;)

[@KurtisRupnow]

No doubt. Just info for people to see so that they are aware the options do exisit.

[@CaallMeeMrrD]

Amazing wiring... Where can i get the OLED board?

[@Painless360]

I get mine from eBay or Banggood usually..

[@mcattee1983]

Is there a flight controller that you would recommend that's a little more plug-n-fly for wings?

[@Painless360]

Yep, check out the F35 build..

[@Hyperious_in_the_air]

I have this same board, for some reason I can't get the GPS to talk to the FC at all. I've tried 2 separate NeoN8M's, on 3 different UARTS, no luck. and yet, I've made sure that tx--->rx and rx--->tx already. It's like this thing just doesn't want to communicate at all.

[@Painless360]

Have you checked that the GPS has power?

[@RickMaddoxSr]

Have you mane the maiden flight yet? Are you going to do a video on how your radio is setup? Are you using FRSky? Great Video as always. Thanks

[@Painless360]

Please see the recent iNav wing build using the F-35. The radio is setup identically for this model. Happy flying!

[@demacherius1]

I have a question and I hope you can answer it. If I have the 405 wing with a TBS Crossfire nano, how do I get the Rssi information into my FC so I can see it on the OSD. Is it send via Tx/Rx or do I have to wire it up seperatly?

[@Painless360]

Please check out my TBS Crossfire series.. best of luck!

[@karondkarpaintwingsnstuff4323]

Hi. I have a question about Inav. I am trying a micro flying wing with inav and differential Thrust. Does anyone tried it? I have problems with setting it up

[@manjularathnayaka]

Im beginner for this , I'm so interesting about aerial drone mapping system. therefore is the possible to connect with raspberrypi with matek f405-wing flight controller.

[@Painless360]

No idea, I've not looked at that. The FC is running iNav and I'm not sure that's an option..

[@travisr3999]

Im lost on your power wire wiring for the esc and lipo power and grounds, can you send me a pic or description, thanks

[@Painless360]

Close-ups of the power connections at 10:44. The Matek connection diagram is excellent and the one I followed - www.mateksys.com/?portfolio=f405-wing#tab-id-3 Best of luck with your build.

[@travisr3999]

@@Painless360 did you cut the factory xt60 lead off of the esc ?

[@travisr3999]

@@Painless360 whats the other end of those power wires look like? Am asking cuz the factory runs the esc to an XT60, did you cut it?

[@bg563195]

Hi Mr 360, a bit off topic here, sorry about that. Do you have a video on how to set up an patreon account account with you. Thanks in advance

[@danniecarmona2509]

I'm not finding a maiden video for your Caipirinha2 did you ever maiden her?

[@Painless360]

Yep, but no video.. happy flying!

[@chrisgriggs8038]

Great video. Did you ever run into issues with interference with this build?

[@Painless360]

Not yet!

[@hillbillypetej]

Hi trying to get CG on this wing any help please.

[@Painless360]

I had to have the action camera and a nice chunky battery in it to get CG - see my comments in the video..

[@Josh-vu4sb]

At 10:27 where does the red ESC wire need to go?

[@Painless360]

Nowhere - it's not needed..

[@Josh-vu4sb]

Was that the TBS compass?

[@Painless360]

Nope, just a good ol' compass I use in most of my iNav builds.. Happy flying!

[@Josh-vu4sb]

@@Painless360 Gotcha. Im knee deep in a TBS build at the moment and trying to figure out the avionics.

[@andy1514-g1q]

regular UTP - Unshielded Twisted Pair - ethernet cable isn't shielded. STP - Shielded Twisted Pair - cable exists but is very rarely used these days.

[@alexislechevalier1022]

I never think about using some kind of ethernet cable, that I've in stock, for the wiring. I'll put a sticky note on my bench to think about it. It'll help me to not make a ridiculous wiring mess on my next project. Thanks.

[@seanmetzger4780]

Hey painless360. I’m not sure if your at all interested in this. But I was wondering if you would make a video explaining how to integrate an antenna tracker to work with inav?

[@Painless360]

Thanks for the idea. I’ll keep my eyes open..

[@longrangefpv]

sean metzger that would be great, I ordered all the parts for a U360gts to give it a try

[@alexpolakis2016]

What gps sensor is that and where can I find it?

[@Painless360]

Please see my more in depth inav flight builds. It's a Neo m8n

[@zeebeefpv2273]

Beautiful work man! I hear you about this build taking a little planning. I am doing mine as an inav build with a Powercube FPVision PDB and a Colibri FC. Using the Colibri is problematic because it doesnt have builtin osd for inav, the osd has to be TBS’s so I am hoping that I can get all the inav functionality but I will end up missing the inav messages on my osd... but I hope it will work. Do you know of anyone else who has done this? I will be happy with the TBS osd and I just want to be able to have flight modes and RTH on failsafe. Anyway I would take any advice from the Powercube guy and all around rc demigod cheers!

[@steveallam]

ZeeBeeFPV I have it all working with all TBS gear just need two GPS units to get it to work if you need help let me know

[@jean-francoisdupont5952]

Hi Painless360, what version of INav are you using to be able to make the oled display working ? I also have the matek F405Wing with INav 2.0.0 but in CLI the "feature DISPLAY" is not provided anymore !! I tried to use iNav firmware 1.9.1 but still the same. Furthermore, current wiring diagram on Matek website still shows the oled display together with Inav 1.9.x configuration stuff.The feature seems to not be implemented anymore. It's really a shame... I think this is a really handy feature for checking GPS status before flight. Also, I have done my tests without any GPS connected, but still the display could display information like current consumption... Any idea on the subject ?

[@Painless360]

This was v1.9,..

[@jean-francoisdupont5952]

Hi @@Painless360. Quick follow up... after some discussion on INav GitHub, it appears that the feature for Oled display is not called DISPLAY anymore but DASHBOARD now. Confirmed by test on my F405 Wing FC with INav 2.0. Tooltip for CLI command in Configuration tab in INav is wrong.

[@austntexan]

@@jean-francoisdupont5952 Hi! You mentioned current consumption in your initial post but, even though it's listed on the Maytek website, I'm not seeing a current sensor on this board at all.

[@jean-francoisdupont5952]

@@austntexan LOL. Sorry I'am french and I made a stupid language mistake. My fault. I wanted to say "actual wiring diagram". But it seems there is a current sensor anyway. On the back side of the board there is this big resistor like component which seems to be part of usual current sensing electronic stuff. And the website clearly state that there is a current sensor with scale value of 317... And even if my build is not finished yet, when powered by the power input that board actually mesure current. So I would says Maytek website is right ;) Or there is some magic behing :D

[@foryueey4647]

awesome love you videos and content

[@Nebul3r]

COMMENT DELETED: , deleted the comment after reading more and watching more tutorials, was confused if i should bridge the 12v pad for the vtx (tbs unify pro 2s-6s) or not, from what i understand there is no need for the bridging as its already supplying 9v and that would be sufficient for this vtx

[@dronereviewman9580]

Great build!! That looms like its going to be so fun to fly!!!!!!!!. GREAT CHANNEL & HAPPY FATHERS DAY!!! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 👍😀👍 I❤DRONES & WINGS LOL lookimg forward to trying to fly a wing looks really fun!!!!

[@jacquessteventon]

Might be worth mentioning that if using ethernet don't use UTP. That is unshielded. You'll need to use STP :)

[@jollyriderrc2453]

Amazing work ;)

[@ДмитрийБолтрушко-с7и]

Просто великолепно.. Так держать +5000000

[@aeroweb100]

Nice video but would rather have it been on a conventional fixed wing, different setup and more complex options - why always its a flying wing ?

[@Painless360]

All wiring, except for the servos, is identical. The wiring for the servos is shown nice and clearly in the iNav interface you you just follow that simple picture. Maybe a more conventional fixed wing for an iNav 2.0 series?

[@MalloChannel]

Awesome! I'm making the same model with the same component, i'm copying you! :D Please consider to share your inav settings for that model!

[@tweekFPV]

👍 👍

[@termitehards]

masha Allah, thank you this vid brother, insha Allah can use this for other fixed wings too 😉

[@DavidTaghehchian]

PID's?

[@Painless360]

PIFFs...;)

[@DavidTaghehchian]

Oops. PIFFs for the Caipirinha II? :)

[@danwedrat2783]

Wow this build makes me moist 😍

[@runforestrunfpv4354]

Too lazy I got F35 flight controller instead.

[@Painless360]

If you don’t need all those ports, it’s a lot easier to build..

[@runforestrunfpv4354]

At least the Matek board has clearly labelled I2C solder pads. Well for F35 flight controller I think for the I2C screen it work it needs to daisy chained into the same port as the airspeed?

[@Thidsa]

Hi. how did you fasten the 405? Sticky pads or screws? Its seems to be aligned with the holes in the bay...

[@Painless360]

Double sided foam tape

[@Thidsa]

@@Painless360 Thx