Should You Buy the 3M Performance Spray Gun?

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Paint Society

Paint Society

Күн бұрын

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@Dopestt
@Dopestt Жыл бұрын
Love this spray gun! I use it for multiple primers, base coat and clear coat from glasurit. It handles anything with ease. Also its nice to have a plastic gun that I don't feel bad scratching by accident. When the boss makes you shoot 5 colors or more in the same booth, this thing is my best friend. Love the channel. Cheers!
@PaintSociety
@PaintSociety Жыл бұрын
The multiple colors is where this gun wins all the time. Ty for watching
@speedokoterefinishnetwork4937
@speedokoterefinishnetwork4937 Жыл бұрын
Starting from the bottom up is one of the best hacks. Cause if something goes wrong it's in the least visible spot. I'll do this from time to time! Good job!
@PaintSociety
@PaintSociety Жыл бұрын
I use to have alot of dry areas on the bottom wow it was bad lol.
@speedokoterefinishnetwork4937
@speedokoterefinishnetwork4937 Жыл бұрын
@@PaintSociety we all slip up from time to time
@mk3ferret
@mk3ferret Жыл бұрын
I do this when I know booth is contaminated
@pellebjurman
@pellebjurman Жыл бұрын
My friend pete,you are a good teacher in painting.Greetings from a amateur painter in Sweden 👍🇸🇪
@shawns57garage
@shawns57garage Жыл бұрын
I actually used a 25 dollar princess auto (hobo freight) gun to put down my base and then switched to a devilbiss FLG 4 Finish Line gun for the clear and I could see and hear the difference of the better quality spray pattern.
@juanrivera8566
@juanrivera8566 Жыл бұрын
Try switching the guns, the expensive one to spray the base and the cheap one to spray the clear. If you know what you're doing you're gonna understand that the last coat of anything, whether it's base or clear, it is going to take the texture below it. So, would you want to lay your clear coat over a very smooth base coat knowing that the clear is going to take the texture below it? Or, would you spray your clear over a very rough orange peel base coat and let the clear automatically take the shape of the base?
@shawns57garage
@shawns57garage Жыл бұрын
@@juanrivera8566 it’s a one and done job … turned out awesome
@spacegodmurder
@spacegodmurder Жыл бұрын
​@@juanrivera8566I am doing that from times to times to emulate a "thicker" finish when it's due. But in the rest, I just use some quality scotch Brite to run over base to get much closer to factory settings. What you've suggested is good, it's a trick worth adding to your book but experimenting is the key
@takacs05
@takacs05 Жыл бұрын
Hi Brian I absolutely recommend you the newer 3M Fine finish nozzle. Especially the 1.3 Fine finish nozzle. You should try it for clear coat. Way more better atomization and faster than this HVLP nozzle. Keep up the vids! Good job! Cheers!
@gasalesb.v.6922
@gasalesb.v.6922 8 ай бұрын
Hello, the fine finish nozzles are they fit on the hvlp gun? Or are the guns the same?
@andyb7754
@andyb7754 Жыл бұрын
I really like your channel because the paint on your projects looks fantastic (the blue is GREAT). That's why I subscribed to your KZbin channel a long time ago. There are a few thinggs I'm not fond of, running bare hands over the panels, wiping the wax and grease remover by going left and right (should be one direction and fold the wipe), last but not lease is shaking clear coat to mix (creates bubbles in it), that drives me nuts. It works for you so hey, keep doing it. Your paint looks great when it'd done.
@wotruannwah5678
@wotruannwah5678 Жыл бұрын
I love it for sealer, makes clean up easy
@bodyshopsolutions695
@bodyshopsolutions695 Жыл бұрын
I would recommend a 1.3 tip for clear. I used the 1.2 at first but wasn’t sure I was getting enough clear on the panel after 2 coats.. so I checked the next one before and after clear and was only getting about 1.8 mill thickness with the 1.2 tip. That being said I switched to the 1.3 to get a little more material on. Everyone sprays differently and maybe you wouldn’t have the same results as I did but it’s just a thought. I have 8 of these 3m guns and use them exclusively for all aspects of the paint job with top notch results! I love the 3m gun
@Erik7prc
@Erik7prc Жыл бұрын
You ever use the pressure feed connector with a pot?
@thomasscullion4398
@thomasscullion4398 Жыл бұрын
i like the performance for clear with the 1.3 . tho i did take it up as a challenge when the rep lent us one years ago to do a full job with one
@juanmata2433
@juanmata2433 Жыл бұрын
First.. I’m a big 3m fan and especially of the performance gun. Doing multiple colors at once this gun makes it a breeze. They are coming out with RP style tips soon so be on the lookout for them. Tips sizes offered are 0.9 for uv. 1.2 1.3 1.4 sealer base clear 1.8 2.0 for primer. Awesome job sir. I recommend them for primer, sealer, base and some clear. If clearing with it I would do 1.4 is better than the 1.2 or 1.3
@PaintSociety
@PaintSociety Жыл бұрын
Yes sir. This gun gets the best all around award!!
@juanmata2433
@juanmata2433 Жыл бұрын
@@PaintSociety I agree 💯 % best bang for your buck
@walkerandrews8892
@walkerandrews8892 Жыл бұрын
i have this gun and love using it. what are rp style tips?
@juanmata2433
@juanmata2433 Жыл бұрын
@@walkerandrews8892 the tips currently available on 3m performance gun are HVLP style. They have redesigned some Tips to mimic sata RP tips which means Reduce pressure. Some people prefer reduced pressure tips to get more material out.
@walkerandrews8892
@walkerandrews8892 Жыл бұрын
@@juanmata2433 will these tips require different settings
@michaeldougherty6653
@michaeldougherty6653 Жыл бұрын
personally i have no desire to try the 3m gun out. That said, i did find some great ideas from a different section of this video. I am a hobbyist. little more then a diy guy but not as much as a pro. maybe 20 or so jobs a year. now I have noticed im struggling to keep vision on my edge spraying from top to bottom. you just made some very valid points I never considered so Monday I got a Chrysler 200 I'm going to try and shoot from bottom up and see if that helps me. Thanks for the idea man I really appreciate it.
@PaintSociety
@PaintSociety Жыл бұрын
Report back n let me know how it works
@geekynewz
@geekynewz Жыл бұрын
Surprised to hear this about 3M accuspray, I really like them for the exact reasons you mentioned on this video.
@Whitening98
@Whitening98 Жыл бұрын
Same, everyone I've known that used them has really liked them. At my old shop everyone in the paint shop had one. Now the old accuspray I hated with a passion. They would pop off after a few uses.
@JBBBBBBBB250
@JBBBBBBBB250 Жыл бұрын
Have to one too and love it… I don’t clear with it
@TexasFlyer
@TexasFlyer 11 ай бұрын
This is not an accuspray gun. That was first generation. This gun is completely diff
@markpecoraro5290
@markpecoraro5290 Жыл бұрын
Brian , great video as always. I notice some of the time you don’t you a wet bed . I’m a professional painter in Michigan. We use PPG . They recommend you use a clear base on all metallic colors . I always use it even on solid colors.
@victorthecarguy3126
@victorthecarguy3126 25 күн бұрын
I saw another video with PPS where the guy was spraying upside down. That looked like a nice trick to have from time to time.
@blakereiter7418
@blakereiter7418 Жыл бұрын
I found one of these in my shop when i transitioned from body to paint. Bought some tips and it's been a good little gun it would be cool if they made tips for pps original since that's what I'm using with my other guns but these definitely have a place and function
@waterhead1359
@waterhead1359 Жыл бұрын
The most hated gun in the industry is hi-point lol
@robinmurphy3085
@robinmurphy3085 7 ай бұрын
I have a feeling based on location they / he didn't get this , but 100% agreed!
@erikjimenez7978
@erikjimenez7978 2 ай бұрын
Needed all that knowledge thank you.. I was second guessing it but sounds like a good investment for using it for base painting and using my iwata for clearing. Since all I use is iwatas for primer base and clear.
@glennnickerson8438
@glennnickerson8438 Жыл бұрын
I sell 3M and have sold a few of the spray gun tips. It just rubs me the wrong way that they are a designed to fail part. All my guns have been swap meet scores where people just never cleaned them and pick them up for cheap. A good cleaning and they are as good as new. I stopped counting after 20 the number of guns I have now!😆
@deadsaylordesigns8871
@deadsaylordesigns8871 Жыл бұрын
I always love the content here I painted a few things from the guidance of this channel, and I actually own this gun. I definitely don't got your skills but I found better success with the 1.3 than the 1.2. I like the 1.3 with base and definitely clear.
@PaintSociety
@PaintSociety Жыл бұрын
Yes. I also like the 1.3 for clear
@donproctor4480
@donproctor4480 Жыл бұрын
Great video as usual. I use that gun everyday with the exception on clear coating, painting multiple bumpers & only having to clean just the nozzles is nice and I don’t have to own 4 guns. As far as clearing, sometimes I start at the bottom, sometimes from the top, sometimes I go from bottom the 2nd coat from top. There’s no right way. Next time you clear, try using a 1.4 tip, you can always up the psi to 23-25 with no issues. Keep in mind, hvlp guns need to go slower cause of the lower psi, and with that 1.2 tip(I know that’s your favorite size) you would need to go slower then normal to wet it up, I’ve tried the 1.2 and didn’t like them for clear.
@Jimmyt829
@Jimmyt829 Жыл бұрын
The professional model is probably good but i had issues with the one that the nozzles that snap it i guess it newer model.
@jimprovax6846
@jimprovax6846 Жыл бұрын
Awesome job Brian. You really go above and beyond explaining all your procedures. I like the 3M gun. Does a decent job. Super easy to clean. Enjoy the rest of your weekend.
@PaintSociety
@PaintSociety Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jim! One more day to rest. I painted this one today
@jimprovax6846
@jimprovax6846 Жыл бұрын
Dude you’re a machine.
@icebmwpower
@icebmwpower Жыл бұрын
Another great content Brian! You’re in my TOP 3 channels when comes to painting. You’re doing great! Keep going that way! *PS. I would like to see you painting with SAGOLA 4600 Extreme TROPHY TRUCK and hear your opinion on how it perform for garage painting. Thank you in advance. Stay safe brother! 🙏
@AudiRSAvant
@AudiRSAvant Жыл бұрын
What are the other 2 channels in your top 3?
@davidbeck1614
@davidbeck1614 Жыл бұрын
Kudos to you on working in that semi down draft booth. That air is moving fast. Almost as fast as some straight up cross flow booths.
@PaintSociety
@PaintSociety Жыл бұрын
Ty!
@shawns57garage
@shawns57garage Жыл бұрын
Laying that clear seemed like you would definitely get a run 🏃‍♀️ but makes sense when you say the 1.2 is not throwing it down so heavy … I used a 1.8 and I had to get moving a lot faster once I realized how much product was going down
@fiys567
@fiys567 Жыл бұрын
Clear coat out of a 1.8? What that is crazy
@shawns57garage
@shawns57garage Жыл бұрын
@@fiys567 I could be wrong .. I have to check …
@andreblanding4817
@andreblanding4817 Жыл бұрын
Looks good dude but can you blend a Is chameleon pearl color is 3 different colors green blue and teal when you look at it at different angles how would you go about blending this or does the whole car need to be painted ?
@dieselapegarage
@dieselapegarage Жыл бұрын
Well what I learn from you you can make anything get the job done because you got the skills the know-how and you never forget that it's just paint 🎨 😂😂 keep it coming 💪
@PaintSociety
@PaintSociety Жыл бұрын
Right on. Thank you!!
@dieselapegarage
@dieselapegarage Жыл бұрын
@@PaintSociety thank you appreciate the tips and tricks that you have shared they have helped me along nowhere near ur level but as you say the learning never stops when the video ends keep it coming
@Tablerj23
@Tablerj23 2 ай бұрын
Like to see you revisit the 3m performance gun with the new Fine tips. I think your your going to change your mind when you use it for clear with the new fine tips.
@HPAcustomriflesandcerakote
@HPAcustomriflesandcerakote Жыл бұрын
Dont know if I would call them most efficient. Minimal air consumption with minimal overspray is what makes a gun efficent. Tuff to beat the efficiency of the Devilbiss DV1-B and DV1-C. I use the B-1 and C-1 aircaps at only 8psi to 12psi and the overspray is atleast 20% less than my overspray was when I was using Walcom Genesi 360 light HTE guns. 3M has kind of gone to sh*t with some of their junk. I still use their sand paper and PPS 2.0 cup system but stuff like their buffing compounds, spray guns, regulators, clay bars, ect kind of suck
@ganeshnarayan5505
@ganeshnarayan5505 Жыл бұрын
Great video Brian thanks for sharing.
@derickphillips8367
@derickphillips8367 Жыл бұрын
Would you be able to do an episode on medium to full wet coats?
@Dotool
@Dotool Жыл бұрын
Your videos are awesome and have inspired me on how we can get your attention!
@ronallen6578
@ronallen6578 Жыл бұрын
Brian, I'm not even a novice. I painted my 02 Silverado earlier this summer. It turned out just OK. However I did learn things. Are you telling us that you can get a quality finish from just about any gun, given a little time with it??
@fiys567
@fiys567 Жыл бұрын
You can get a good finish by adjusting settings. Not every gun is going to be capable of a quality finish. You can still get a quality finish out of some cheaper guns less than 200 which isn’t bad at all. More expensive guns are going to spray fairly well without much adjustment or even technique. Try out the Eastwood concours lt100 for clear coat. Thing lays clear and atomizes it very well. I just painted for the first time and the clear coat came out extremely nice with the lt100 only a bit of orange peel which was still a lot less than all new cars these days.
@ronallen6578
@ronallen6578 Жыл бұрын
@@fiys567 That's what I bought for that project. Like I said it turned OK. Repainted just about every panel trying to get things better. Frustration in action🤔🤔
@fiys567
@fiys567 Жыл бұрын
@@ronallen6578 Did you use the lt100 for clearcoat and base? I used the lt100 just for clear because it’s the only gun I have that my compressor will keep up with at such a high psi. I used a kiwami4 for base coat. I ran the lt100 at 33 psi wide open material slightly dialed in fan and it sprayed beautifully.
@ronallen6578
@ronallen6578 Жыл бұрын
@@fiys567 Yes, both base and clear. I used my trusty Harbor Freight $15 purple gun for primer. Actually had to toss 1 when the epoxy primer set faster than I thought it would--DUH😱😱. I have sprayed a lot of lacquer in my woodworking over the years and figured how different could it be?? Like I said, I've never done any body work along these lines. Lots of you tube videos, talking to several body guys locally and just pure stupidity on my part thinking I could do this. I don't think there was a single panel I didn't end up spraying 2x. Hood I actually hit 4 times??? It ended up turning out ok, but I'd sure like to know then what little knowledge I managed to acquire through this. At 67, not to many more opportunities going to fall my way.
@mk3ferret
@mk3ferret Жыл бұрын
Still dropping solid tutorials friend Now if i can figure out how to get that work i want to do vs all these i hate doing maybe id be a happier guy
@Alexgetstowork
@Alexgetstowork Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment on the trigger pull whilst you were clear coating as its something i have wanted a painter to answer. Do you release or not release the trigger after the stroke. Appreciate the constant awesome content 👏
@bodyshopsolutions695
@bodyshopsolutions695 Жыл бұрын
You can spray either way it doesn’t matter.. it’s just preference
@Kryoner1ex
@Kryoner1ex Жыл бұрын
In factory we are using SATA for 800€ for paint repares. But for my project i will use something much cheaper 🙂
@jasonehredt968
@jasonehredt968 Жыл бұрын
I tear down and even r/i my own doors in the name of simplicity and efficiency all the time. Gotta get it done! Still pays better than running around crying to the estimator and body man trying to get it supp’d for.
@tomnassar5884
@tomnassar5884 Жыл бұрын
I bought one for the ease of cleaning since I don't spray daily How do you feel about using this gun for single stage paint?
@BigDGeo01
@BigDGeo01 Жыл бұрын
Hey love your videos, i just wanted to know what are the steps on painting a brand new bumper that already comes with primer?
@jtmcfarland3512
@jtmcfarland3512 4 ай бұрын
Maybe instead of wrapping the whole cup in tape, you could try the disposable shower caps. Turn it inside out and get 2 uses from each. Super quick and simple. 🎉
@jesusgodina2735
@jesusgodina2735 2 ай бұрын
Have you tired the new automizing tips? They have better atomization if I am not mistaken they are black in color.
@patrickmazzone9066
@patrickmazzone9066 Жыл бұрын
Excellent job could you try a sata x5500 I tip gun on clear
@jvssgod
@jvssgod Жыл бұрын
Do u have a video of buffing a panel right after paint?
@jamespolucha8790
@jamespolucha8790 Жыл бұрын
I’m in the process of painting my motorcycle myself and I’ve never painted before so I know I’m not buying a top of the line spray gun but yet i want a good paint job, so what do you recommend I buy , I probably will only use this a couple times, unless it comes out really good , I might paint all my bikes
@ryanwolfe911
@ryanwolfe911 Жыл бұрын
I agree 100% Brian. That accuspray pos left a bad taste in everyone’s mouth so they automatically just write off the Performance gun. Like you, I HATE cleaning guns, this thing changed my life lol
@PaintSociety
@PaintSociety Жыл бұрын
Yup. Thats basically how it all went down.
@jtmcfarland3512
@jtmcfarland3512 4 ай бұрын
I’ll be curious to try clear with a 1.3 and maybe 25ish psi or 1.2 with a smaller fan. Brian, any chance you can let us know your thoughts using the gen3/fine heads?
@rongamble9884
@rongamble9884 Жыл бұрын
I have a custom and restoration shop and looking to get a new gun setup I'm looking at a 3 gun DV1 setup for $1,800 what is your true true opinion of the 3M over the DV1 ?
@dannygaines6539
@dannygaines6539 Жыл бұрын
do you worry about screen in cup hurting the metallic paint
@karlavillajulca9683
@karlavillajulca9683 Жыл бұрын
what a great video!
@PaintSociety
@PaintSociety Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@t-panda808
@t-panda808 Жыл бұрын
Yeah you did get a great finish with those spray guns. I gave mine away and I’ll never go back to them. I bought the full paint suit and absolutely love it. Thanks for offering your merchandise from the channel 🙌🏽😁
@PaintSociety
@PaintSociety Жыл бұрын
Thanks for supporting the channel!!!!
@noreenali5065
@noreenali5065 10 ай бұрын
i use this gun to paint furniture, what capacity compressor would you recommend
@vasacermak1
@vasacermak1 Жыл бұрын
Dont take it as a hate but how do you get so poor coverage that you have to do multiple coats with black? I use water base and one coat is always enough in a scenario like this. (I am kinda new-ish to painting and I've never used anything other than water)
@emmanuelhud1
@emmanuelhud1 8 ай бұрын
Was that 2k clear coat? I thought you had to wear an air fed mask?
@larrydbuckhoutjr1130
@larrydbuckhoutjr1130 Жыл бұрын
Are you spraying Akzo water borne?
@PaintSociety
@PaintSociety Жыл бұрын
Solvent
@larrydbuckhoutjr1130
@larrydbuckhoutjr1130 Жыл бұрын
@@PaintSociety your technique is close to mine except I use a 1.3 for base and a 1.4 for clear.
@larrydbuckhoutjr1130
@larrydbuckhoutjr1130 Жыл бұрын
Good informative videos.
@sttm1283
@sttm1283 Жыл бұрын
what is the pros and cons of not letting the trigger go?
@andyhedges5705
@andyhedges5705 10 ай бұрын
Achy finger 😀
@jasonehredt968
@jasonehredt968 Жыл бұрын
It’s slow but I love having it on hand for the high production days.
@ericpierce7311
@ericpierce7311 Жыл бұрын
Yep, I had a gun like that , threw it in the trash after a month . Ihate PPS ! Just give me a regular gravity feed HVLP , Im good .
@Stellarffxi
@Stellarffxi 7 ай бұрын
so I dont really understand why thats the right way to do it... Aren't you just going to have the same issue with potentially different metallics now between the front door and the fender or the rear door and the quarter panel?
@PaintSociety
@PaintSociety 7 ай бұрын
No
@Avtovaz21057
@Avtovaz21057 Жыл бұрын
looks good, do you never use air fed masks? thanks!!
@fiys567
@fiys567 Жыл бұрын
If you’re in a booth with air moving in and out an air fed mask isn’t going to be really needed because most of the chemicals and fumes and paint is going to be taken out and there will be enough oxygen in the booth for your mask to still work. But air fed masks are always preferred that’s the only true way to stay as healthy as possible just super expensive
@bodyshopsolutions695
@bodyshopsolutions695 Жыл бұрын
Fresh air system is the only way to paint.. anyone that doesn’t use one is killing themselves.. please take care of yourselves fellas
@mikeshaw7670
@mikeshaw7670 Жыл бұрын
I only use that gun for primer
@danw1089
@danw1089 Жыл бұрын
The problem with the 3m guns is they break .
@TexasFlyer
@TexasFlyer 11 ай бұрын
Love the gun. I can spray anything with it. If you haven’t tried it………..you should.
@lawncuttingplusdelta
@lawncuttingplusdelta Жыл бұрын
I painted bicycles in the 70 s with spray bombs …. I’ve never met a gun I don’t like !!! …. If anything it’s about the longevity in terms of quality not spray quality
@NeseComedy
@NeseComedy 5 ай бұрын
People like to act like the non plastic guns cost a lot more in manufacturing lol
@jotighe2
@jotighe2 Жыл бұрын
you deserve a vacation
@BrianCarpenter-he7oi
@BrianCarpenter-he7oi 2 ай бұрын
Nope. Its designed to keep giving them money every time you spray. Just the tips are 40$ for 5. Can get disposable cups for any gun to do color changes its easy to spray out your gun.
@anttikorhonen4990
@anttikorhonen4990 Жыл бұрын
I use 3m spray gun everyday and i think its very good..
@BrianCarpenter-he7oi
@BrianCarpenter-he7oi 2 ай бұрын
Id rather spray with my spectrum from harbor freight.
@rollinggordo9945
@rollinggordo9945 Жыл бұрын
Do you like this gun over the Accuspray?
@prawnstar9213
@prawnstar9213 8 ай бұрын
The 3m performance gun in 2024 costs almost $800. You can buy cheaper guns that are just fine if you are just needing to paint one car in your garage diy style.
@kevingregory9416
@kevingregory9416 7 ай бұрын
I just got mine cups, tips nd everything for about $350
@Sumkindawonderful
@Sumkindawonderful Жыл бұрын
Hate seeing a gun used on black!!
@michaeldougherty6653
@michaeldougherty6653 Жыл бұрын
ok I have to ask. What would you use to lay black paint?
@PaintSociety
@PaintSociety Жыл бұрын
Not sure what he means by his statement either
@Sumkindawonderful
@Sumkindawonderful Жыл бұрын
The 3m gun is amazing, a black blend job is kinda cutting what the gun can do short,that's all I'm saying.is it clear enough now???
@PaintSociety
@PaintSociety Жыл бұрын
@@Sumkindawonderful yes. You originally said “a gun” not the 3m gun ty.
@michaeldougherty6653
@michaeldougherty6653 Жыл бұрын
I understand now thank you. when you had originally just said just "hate seeing a gun used on black" it had looked as if you were saying that you didnt like to use a spray gun to paint black, so I had been a little confused. I do believe the video was more geared more towards the guns capabilities and not the actual blend itself. but again thank you fore clarifying that for me I was mistaken there, I apologize and thank you for clearing that up for me.@@Sumkindawonderful
@Bradley_Clark
@Bradley_Clark Жыл бұрын
thumbed
@ssweetromeo
@ssweetromeo Жыл бұрын
can u paint my knight rider for your car video for free :)
@melondarrat4788
@melondarrat4788 3 ай бұрын
this gun is pure garbage, there is slow guns on the market, but this is trash, imagine doing a complete with that, would take like 2 hours
@PaintSociety
@PaintSociety 3 ай бұрын
Well, why would you do a complete with it?
@melondarrat4788
@melondarrat4788 3 ай бұрын
@@PaintSocietyIm just hating my way to the toilette bowl, im a sagola fan boy so you can imagine my reaction watching you paint 2 panel in 4 min just for clear xd
@PeteR-or5kj
@PeteR-or5kj Жыл бұрын
Do you ever blow thinner through it when let's say using a heavy primer? That stuff can be like cement.
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