The BEST Guide to DIY Home Automotive Rust Repair!

[@dukeman7595]

Brian, I just finished painting my corvette hood and front bumper. I watched so many of your videos about B/C Clearcoat prep. and how to achieve a great result, well it payed off, it came out fantastic. I followed everything you said to do and bought the right spray gun you recommenced off your store. Oh, I did this in my garage and I'm so glad I took the time to leran from you. Thank you so much you're a great teacher in both your professions.

[@PaintSociety]

Awesome!!!! Ty. Glad it worked

[@larryz24]

This is by far the best DIY example of panel refinishing, thank you SO much. 5 Stars!!

[@PaintSociety]

Wow, thank you!

[@gregwills7710]

Brian, this is an excellent example of not only how to do auto body/painting work, but more importantly, how to teach others enough to get us jump-started. In your debt - thank you!

[@Zormisprojects]

Found your channel a couple of years ago when I was researching on how to paint my truck, for my first time painting HVLP I was very pleased with my results thanks to your tips! I still come back to your channel because I enjoy your content and it gives me more information to put in my toolbox whenever I find the next project I can use them on.

[@PaintSociety]

Thank you for being a longtime viewer of the channel!

[@dewrus2153]

Great video! I'm a terrible welder but I can make two pieces of metal stick together. The old saying I abide by is "a grinder and paint make me the welder I ain't!".

[@Schmuck1505]

The best of the bests 👍 You helped me a lot to improve im following you from a country of North Africa and the things that you giving here for free no one will tell them to you here thank you so so so much for helping me to improve just from watching your videos

[@talesfromthehood5374]

Bump what they say in the comments, this is an older- well loved truck and your body and paint work on it is as good as it gets at home. This is only a street driver no need for show quality! Besides, if you made that panel perfect the rest of it would stand out to much. Looks great from here! Thanks for the tips Brian!

[@rustyslade7822]

Love your body shop helper. Good to see see your a Family Man love it

[@JohnnieBravo1]

I see you have some highly competent help there from your trainee! What a heart warming project.

[@gthree0239]

I have an older mini van that has rust everywhere. Using it as a training vehicle to learn body work on. I like these tips. There’s just so many different kinds of paint filler sanders sand paper etc it’s hard to know where to start. I like that Yukon XL looks like a nice truck that a person like myself could get cheap and eventually have a nice vehicle out of.

[@cdeprima1209]

I used epoxy and aluminum sheets; finished skim coat with bondo, worked out great, want to keep truck now! ;)

[@BruceLyeg]

The tip about using the Fast Etch is an excellent idea. I've always gone over any weld seams with polyester resin and some cabosil mixture to seal them before epoxy primer. pretty much the same idea as putting the short strand filler. Might be overkill but it was something I learned eons ago and have always done. Nice job, your repair turned out spectacular as always. You're a very knowledgeable and skilled body and paint man

[@PaintSociety]

Great point!

[@kd5inm]

I like that you are teaching the next generation. Its good to see your son helping you and learning. Pass on what you know.

[@SirTubington]

Thank you. As much as I'm a diy guy, unless I do this daily, the amount I would spend on materials surpasses me bringing it to a local shop.

[@brucelarsen6650]

I have never even HELD a $40.00 rattle-can of spray paint. In my entire life. But then again, my idea of body repair used to mean using pieces of wood and gooping them into dents and damaged areas with heavy roofing tar using a 2-inch putty knife, and letting the tar dry-out in the Sun for a few days until it quit wanting to sag off the car. Then a $5.00 can of Hardware Store Rust/Red Iron Oxide colored Farm Implement Primer to give it a good, strong, good-looking "skin". I thought that looked so classy. I spray painted the entire car with it, and I mean the ENTIRE car - chrome, lights, windows, wiper blades, etc. A single-edge razor took the paint off the windows and lights like MAGIC, and all the dirt and stuff came off in the ribbons of paint and the glass and signal lenses sparkled like new. Before it all dried, it rained a little bit and the paint all mottled (my then being 16-year old idea of a Custom Paint Job) To preserve that wonderful mottling effect, I mopped the car about 5 times with that then-new product "Formica Floor Shine", and it would almost blind with shine! Leaving High-School one day, the local State Patrol Trooper pulled me over. He's a really, great guy, and we all knew and liked him well in our small town. He inquired about my Mom, my Dad, my siblings, just a bunch of small-talk. All the other kids drove past us, his Blue and Red lights blinking, staring at me and him. When I finally asked him what I did "wrong?", I swear he almost started crying. He took his big Trooper hat off, held it to his chest, looked at me (I'm thinking "Oh my god, something bad has happened in my family and needs to inform me" and he said "You know, I've been a State Patrolman for a long time now..." here it comes, oh my god, what? It never gets easy, right? What??? "and NEVER in my career, EVER, have I pulled over... a BIG. SHINY. TURD!!!" He could barely get the words out, turned around, and as he walked back to his Cruiser all he was doing was snorting, guffawing and laughing out loud. That was over half a CENTURY ago. Every EVERY time I've seen him after that, no matter where, no matter when, him and his Super-Duper State Patrolman VISION would see me well before I'd see him, and it was always the same thing when I'd see him: that big, beautiful toothy grin of his, POINTING at me, and laughing soundly. In the store, on the road, walking somewhere. ALWAYS. But a $40.00 spray can of paint? How many of those did you use in this video? I dunno, man. I think I've proved to myself that a tube of roofing tar, a can of tractor primer and a razor blade can yield some pretty spectacular, quite memorable results, too. Thank you for all the tips and tricks, however! I'm glad I watched your video, and "yes", I thumbed-up AND subscribed!

[@richcombs4805]

​@@brucelarsen6650 I've bought a number of $40 rattle cans from an auto body supply place that makes them to match custom. Worked well.

[@stevec5657]

I was one of the "spray can repair" people, then got a used 26 gallon compressor, an Areopro R500 gun and never looked back. Now I get consistent, much better results. Thanks Brian for another cool video 👍

[@nononsense5457]

Incredible result but I definitely don’t have the patience to go thru all these steps nor have the wallet to splurge on all these required supplies. But….. my hats off to this guys for having the patience and thorough explanation for each phase of this operation. I couldn’t do it.

[@MikeyMack303]

Thank you for another great video. It's good to see you have an apprentice learning the trade!

[@michaellopez809]

Glad to see you back to the DYI garage paint and body. Keep up the good work.

[@PaintSociety]

Thank you!!

[@jeffro.]

I've gotta say, the end result looks really good! When I saw those welds, i didn't think you'd ever cover them up! That's a LOT of work, though.

[@loopflex9359]

Great work and great to see your young son helping ❤

[@kc_speed9980]

Thank you for taking the time to make these amazing videos.

[@Jim-fe2xz]

Great video! Nice helper you have there! Word of caution on grinding welds. You may get a nice weld with little or no warping and ruin it by leaning too hard on your sanding disc and building too much heat. Go slowly and keep checking how hot the panel is getting. Ask me how I know!!!!

[@MaNuLaToROfficial]

I've used the metal overheating to my advantage a few times too but yeah the metal heating up can definitely be a bad thing

[@Ray-n5z7q]

Brian, I was doing a PDR glue pull on the roof of my 07 "Kona blue" Mustang, and it pulled the very small dent AND the paint n primer clear down to the metal, in one pull. Its about a 1.5" diameter circle. Ive been following your videos and learning step by step. Can i try and blend the paint, or do i need to redo the whole roof. This will be my 1st time painting, so im still trying to learn by watching your videos, which are extremely educational. Thanks for teaching us.

[@renecenteno5921]

A lot of useful information as always Brian, great Job 👍🏽 Love how your son is around you watching you work, I hope he likes what you do and hopefully see him learn from a great teacher.

[@PaintSociety]

Hi! Yes. He starting to enjoy being with dad in the garage. Ty for your comment n good to hear from you

[@I_keel_you]

Brian, one good trick I learned and that works with the 2K clear coat is that after using it, if you freeze the can you can preserve what’s left way longer. My last can lasted over a month and I was able to use the whole can instead of throwing it away, you just gotta let it get back to room temperature before it starts to spray correctly again. Maybe it might with the epoxy primer as well. Try it and see!

[@alexandrecouture2462]

Great video! I had to replace the hood and a fender on my old Jag due to a deer. The car is beige tan color and my used replacement panels were black, severely burned 30 years old black paint and clear coat. I finally got the panels nice with high build primer, but I had difficulty with the coverage of Dupli-Color paint. In fact, it took me 11 spray cans to get good coverage on the hood and fender. But, I got it and the covered it with 2K Spray-Max clear coat and it looks very good for a DIY job!

[@mikep509]

Might have been more cost effective if you had got a hold of a sprayer and compressor with the base, top and clear in cans

[@alexandrecouture2462]

@@mikep509 Oh yes, for sure! But, I wanted to try to do it by myself. At 22$ Canadian per Dupli-Color can and 45$ Canadian per 2K clear coat cans, it was expensive. Lots of square foots in this hood!

[@mikep509]

@@alexandrecouture2462 ... yeah it's pricey with rattle cans.. I'm in canada too, I have borrowed a 16 gallon compressor and picked up a $130 paint sprayer on sale at Canadian tire for $50... I have a rear side door, front left fender and a spot on the roof near the windshield to fix/paint ... paint , primer, and clearcoat cost me $300 in cans... I just need time (and good weather lol) to work.on it... should take a day or so.... dialing in the sprayer is needed, and also for covering a bigger area like a roof, rattle cans are very difficult to use, so a sprayer was the way to go... 2009 toyota corolla, 150k km on the drive train... its in great shape except for a few corrosion spots... that im attempting to fix... bodyshops are quoting a fortune for this job if I was to go that route...

[@stco2426]

Another great masterclass in painting and body filler etc. So much fab teaching. I applaud the use of the cut panel from the full piece but yeah the welding could be better. Still, it's not the metalwork than brought me here and the finish looks really great. Many thanks. There's loads for me to implement when I get the steel work of my project vehicle ready for these stages. Thanks!

[@PaintSociety]

Thank you! I would love to learn to weld as well

[@mikeberry885]

Brian, if you get a vehicle that has very bad sun spots with a little rust on the hood please show a DIY Because I love watching your videos you are the most informative and the best videos

[@gtchalie5038]

Question, would you or did you treat the backside of the panel? It seems if you do nothing to the back all your work will be for nothing when it starts to rust.

[@WoodenSteel-J6artisan]

Not a criticism…. Your work looks very good…. Your choices of materials is a real eye opener…

[@jonathangaliano2617]

I've watched a few of your videos and they really are the best DIY painting videos I've seen on youtube. I haven't painted in a while but it's awesome to see what you can do with basic things when you know what you're doing. Where are you located btw?

[@PaintSociety]

The hottest place on earth! FL

[@bravobravoh1344]

You have a good helper and future painter there.

[@davinlaroche3029]

That's where it starts! I started working for my dad on weekends when I turned eight. Been there ever since.

[@jimprovax6846]

Hi Brian. Great tutorial as always. Folks might not realize what is involved in getting a quality repair. Nice to see your little apprentice. Hope your summer is going well. Enjoy your weekend with your beautiful family.

[@PaintSociety]

Jim, as always, your comments always come through and brighten up my day. Thank you so much for watching the channel always.

[@digitalcommandos303]

Great timely video Brian, about to put my e46 convertible back on the road and needs a few rust patches sorted ❤

[@chrisgraham2904]

Look great from this side. What do you do to protect the welds on the inside of the panel?

[@myrondel]

Thank you for a clear, to the point and thorough video, excellent job.

[@donaldbaker6961]

Thank you so much for this video I really appreciate seeing the do it yourselfer videos you show a not perfect weld and how to clean it properly thank you so much 😊

[@VooDooV6]

How do you protect the inside of that panel,i thought that part rusted from the inside out..great job

[@jeepsblackpowderandlights4305]

generally you dont unless its galvanized or you paint it being from a hole drilled on the other side... I used galvanized steel, this way it wont rust on the otherside.

[@UnfilteredGolfer]

I understand you do these in your garage,but why dont you use any ir lights?those 2k cans are longer to dry and arent as hard if the weather is difficult.great vid!

[@deangrande7207]

I have done some body work when I was younger , always wondered How concerned are body shops , developing rust from the inside .

[@Artoconnell]

Thanks Man. Even if thats not perfect its 6587 times better than it was. and thats not bad at all. Not everyone can drop 10k on a 20 year old DD.

[@shortyred60]

Perfect timing I'm doing the same to my truck right now, awesome job! Thanks! I need to get a shirt!

[@JF-sv7qo]

Great to see Young Buckaroo getting the knowledge. Eachone teachone excellent

[@dreamdesigner442]

Thank you for great tips,perfect explanations and great camera point of view👍👍👍🙏😊

[@JD-kg3mx]

I've never had any problems taking a finish off metal on any car/truck and applying lacquer primer surfacer to the bare metal. Primer is the adhesion prep (it's not classified as paint) to accept your finish coats. It sands well, exposes warps and issues of metal patches and won't rust at all depending on the length of time and prep work for the final coats of paint.

[@tractortinkerer11]

Great video for this beginner old man. LOL Thanks for the in-depth tutorial. What was your total time for this small space? Thanks.

[@jeffreyeaton9934]

An old timer at local paint supply store said the particles are different shapes between blocking sandpaper and disc sandpaper. The block sandpaper has a more pointed shape and disc has more rounded at same grit

[@tegomarartsandillustration2564]

Great video no other video showed a battery operated grinder and I don’t have a compressor so that alone gets my two thumbs up

[@PaintSociety]

Glad it helped

[@bradnichols8667]

What's a good company to get patch panels. I've got a 2007 Chevy Avalanche And below the gas lid on bottom panel exactly the same area you're doing. Thanks 👊

[@robbutler19777]

I love this video. Great outcome. I have one question, what do you do with the back of the welds? Isn't it exposed to the elements? Would it rust again from the back? Thanks in advance.

[@PaintSociety]

Watch the end of the video please

[@ratsrodsgarage461]

Outstanding video with really good info, thank you for taking your time to do it .

[@dougmac444]

Great job, cheers from Vancouver 🇨🇦

[@mortenfransrud7676]

Hey, i can't find a video on this subject. But I would love it, if not others as well, that you or someone would make a video explaining the different properties of the masking tapes and their functions. There are so many types I feel, and as a novice, I am unsure if I really understand the differences between the types?

[@godbluffvdgg]

Bro, that finish is TIGHT! I wanted to do some work to my Cateye chevy, Rocker panels...Are all those two part sprays; One and dones? once it's mixed use it or lose it?... I use pre-cat epoxy paint in residential trim etc, but; you can reuse it once it's open...

[@Muzzleblast-1911]

Love the kiddo hanging out!

[@PaintSociety]

Memories!!!

[@richcaseaxon]

Not too bad of a weekend project for a couple hundred in paint plus some sandpaper. Thanks for the video.

[@exarmysgte5]

The best cheap body board I've found, a plastic meat cutting board from the box store. easy to clean and reusable 😊

[@1980s-fan]

Great instructional video for professional results. My only concern is the cost of this repair, if I am just a week end warrior and trying to fix my daily driver the cost of all this repair is crazy expensive. Patch panel, welder, PPE for that, and supplies, short strand body filler, Bondo, glaze putty, primers, sand paper, hardener, etc. etc. how many types of primers? etch, high build, epoxy, guide coat .... holy Toledo I might as well pay a body shop to do it IMHO.

[@PaintSociety]

Yup! I mention this in my closing remarks. Very true

[@ceciliaremusneferu9797]

Esti un mentor foarte bun.

[@alexgustafson2582]

I was recently quoted 1,300 dollars to have a bumper cover and one fender painted to OEM color no installation or prep and parts are both brand new oem. Does this sound right? I do allot with Cerakote so I have a decent spray set up I just needed a new spray gun so I ordered everything from eastwood for 550 and a gun from amazon and figured I would just do it myself

[@jasonkennedy3408]

Thank you for making a video on something I’m doing I like your other ones but this is more of what I’m running into on my 91 Chevy truck and my 94 Chevy 4x4 can you teach us some stuff dealing with fiber glass beds like my step side beds I have I’m working on four cracks this week in the fiberglass thanks brother

[@blackenigma1054]

That came out pretty good, thanks for the video

[@tinkertable1977]

How do you get your spreader clean again after use?

[@Will_JJHP]

Great video as always. I plan on doing a similar project removing bubbled paint, patching/filling and repainting some rusted roof gutters on my Jeep. Any suggestions on what type of paint gun I can get that is affordable and gets the job done spraying all four of those products? Thanks!

[@nigelstewart4736]

Your Eastwood commercial is complete.... along with a two tone quarter panel

[@josephtriunfante1384]

that is awesome! you do magic on cars and you are very good at it. how do you paint plastic bumper and trim to match the body color? i have honda hrv in mind and i'd like to paint the bumper and trim without spending so much or paying a shop to do the job.

[@KarateSensei71]

I was curious if you would ever access the backside through a drain hole that you could create and then plug and spray corrosion protection on the panel's backside. Excellent DYI.

[@Big-Foot-Randy]

If he doesn’t, it’s just going to rot out fast with all that welding having burned off the primer coat on the inside.. Good video otherwise…

[@PaintSociety]

Wish you guys watched the end of the videos

[@Big-Foot-Randy]

@@PaintSociety my apologies - I got pulled away and somehow it skipped to the end. You made a really good video of a repair that will last for years. Kudos!

[@KarateSensei71]

@@PaintSociety I did watch the entire video, showing some minor spritzing through a screw hole at the inner fender wheel opening is not coating the inside of the panel adequately. It will just rust through from the inside.

[@kenmcclintock5535]

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[@kennethboydsr3966]

Great job thanks for the instructions😊

[@omarnabel909]

Thank you Brian I learned a lot from you about paint👍

[@albertocuellar6406]

I would've liked to see the welding process also. Good job! Learning from here.

[@oldredcoonhound2182]

Check out fitzees fabrications

[@donaldbaker6961]

Really happy with this project again thank you from a do it yourselfer wow very happy

[@explorer7669]

Bardzo dobrze zrobione👍👍👍 świetne auto😊 uwielbiam amerykańską motoryzacje❤❤ pozdrawiam z Polski 🇵🇱

[@VooDooV6]

Any replacement panels for the lip above the rear wheel thanks .

[@geetea2220]

Brian has been hitting the gym 💪

[@PaintSociety]

15 more pounds to go!

[@RobertRandin]

Thank you great explanation great tutorial and great video

[@wadecs1]

Is it ok to use a urethane primer under an acrylic/enamel paint? Seems like I read you’re supposed to keep the systems the same acrylic with acrylic, urethane with urethane…

[@richcombs4805]

Would you need to epoxy prime the backside of the welds?

[@PaintSociety]

Its a great idea

[@richcombs4805]

@@PaintSociety thank you so much Brian. So far I've used auto shop Bulldog, Transtar, and PPG in custom SEM cans to repaint the rear bumper of an 05 Highlander. Next up is a rust spot on rear of my dad's '10 Four Runner that is 2"x3" or so. I'm hoping to sand down, treat pitting with Metal Rescue Gel and then get into epoxy primer etc etc ...but after watching you, I'm thinking I don't have a good grasp of why the various body fillers were needed. Time to research a little more. I don't intend to cut, patch, weld, etch and fill as the rust is not thru....not fun in salty upstate NY.

[@gregwoody75]

Is that a harbor freight welder? I've been debating on getting one

[@The-truth-is-valuable.]

Brian, can you do a price comparison between shop repair and this "DIY" style repair?

[@SirTubington]

Shop would be cheaper.

[@bewernia]

@@SirTubingtonreally? I find that difficult to believe. I guess a cost comparison is the way to go.

[@bewernia]

@@burtreynolds3143 I hear ya. Your breakdown doesn’t tell me what a shop would charge though.

[@DennisBai-r2j]

Hi brian ive been watching all your videos on painting at home, and was wondering if you recommend single stage paint or base and clear coat for a car thats going to be parked outside? Looking to repaint my 08’ civic si with peeling clear coat.

[@stickymonsters5158]

how far can you go with fiberglass and bodge can a van whole step be done

[@PappyNet01]

Please advise, I was trying to find my notes on products that I saw used on one of those Car and/or Truck shows. I remember It is a product that you can spray on your vehicle to stop the rust from spreading and yet it protects the patina - I think it is good stop-gap until you can prepare and paint your vehicle. I own a 2005 GMC Sierra 1500 and the clearcoat is basically destroyed on the hood and roof; the sides have a lot of scratches due to bungee cords used while covering the truck with a tarp to impede water leaking into the passenger cab for approximately four years-(4-yrs).

[@bgee461]

Vice grip garage has a product and poppy's sweet patina that Dylan mcCool uses. I forget what budget buildz uses...

[@RealityLifeGod]

Hi Brian great work on all this 🤩😮

[@andru2625]

Great job! Thanks for the video.

[@app369]

Truck looks really good man, you are looking slim!

[@PaintSociety]

Thank you, this comment means a lot to me because I’ve been working my butt off to get down again. I still have some more to go, but I’m feeling much better, thank you again.

[@badad0166]

9:30 Pre nead the catalyst after purging a little air and before squeezing. It separates too.

[@ryszardfrysztak4223]

Great job Brian, however, the rust started from the inside which is where it all began. Is this the end of the project, or are you going to address the fixing up of the inside?

[@PaintSociety]

Watch the end of the video for the rust protection 😀😀

[@ryszardfrysztak4223]

Lookig forward to it tks.

[@OldBondoBilly]

Attention BB welding trolls; ATTACK!🤣🤣. Brian must have a deleter on retainer. When I show a weld that doesn’t look like stacked pesos, I get 40 hundred trolls😉😉🤣

[@stevec5657]

😂 Bondo Billy is the BEST !!! 🇺🇸

[@mikecunningham7621]

Yo Bondo B... Just mentioned you in my post here. You might get a kick out of it.

[@PaintSociety]

Folks been kinda nice lately😂

[@jerryf609]

I have 2014 F150 with steel body color painted bumper. The bumper has some surface rustvabout the size of your palm near the front wheel well. The paint is white platinum pearl paint. Can i use this method (other than welding patch panel) to repair the bumper and make it look good?

[@theneoenigma2094]

Off topic question: I love the paint side of the industry but don’t particularly have an interest in the actual body/repair side. Is it possible/reasonable to become successful in paint without knowing body?

[@PandaKnivesRo]

That is a very nice job! I also want to do this on my car, I have a few rust spots that need fixing. What do you do with the rest of the can that still has some 2k clear coat or primer in it? Because I'm guessing it's going to harden in a day or so in the can.

[@deezyh5089]

You can preserve any 2k leftovers if you put it in the fridge for about a week maybe more until the day its ready to be used again. Let it get back to room temp hours before spraying it

[@bubbajohnston]

On working on those lower panels jacking up the vehicle helps

[@lifequest7453]

Well I am also repairing some metal on my truck. You have holes in the welding. You have to fill all those holes to prevent moisture from getting through and making the paint fail. The bondo is not good enough to stop the moisture from getting through.

[@davidcoudriet8439]

How was the back side of the panel treated against rusting?

[@PaintSociety]

Watch the end of the video please

[@thomassouliere7613]

I swear Brian could pull off a factory paint job with an old Windex bottle and a water pistol!

[@johndutton4860]

what grit to sand plastic for paint to bind ? should i be using adhesion promoter as well ?

[@is300glenn]

This is great but what about treating and rustproofing the inside of the repair?

[@PaintSociety]

Watch the end of the video

[@dvljet]

2k clear $40 a spray can same with the primer going to a bodyshop jobbers store or site can of oem exact match colour between $20 for a small can and $50 for a large can has for the clear i asked the owner of the paint store i go to what he recommended and he said use the laquer clear for small repairs its a waste of money to spray a small repair with a $40 can of clear . if your doing anything like a door panel then yes use the 2k stuff because its a large panel and youll use the entire can . brian when do you use blender on small repairs before or after clearing .

[@lewisburnett9805]

ok can you explain how cutting a section out of a new panel and welding it into place after you grind away all the rust to as good as you can get it and then applying a rust inhibitor and hoping the rust does not come back is easier than bolting the new panel in place and painting it if the color does not match??????? one is for sure the easier route to fix the rust i wonder which way is easier???????

[@jordanbest3926]

If you’re asking this question you don’t need to be doing this kind of work in the first place. On what planet can you just “unbolt” a rear quarter panel on a freakin SUV? The front of the vehicle “unbolts”. The rear does not in most applications.

[@seanb2451]

I just have a question it's not about this video but I searched to see if you had done a show on diy"car paint" like from AutoZone(Dupont paint shop)or a truck,tractor and implement paint from rural King? I used the Majic diamond hard truck,tractor and implement paint(the blue can)and thought it was really good for being cheap. However now they don't have it here so I'm gonna try the Dupont paint shop paint from AutoZone along with the clear coat. Was curious if you have ever used any of it and if I should use a hardener with the clear coat(it says not necessary)I would think it would make it more durable. Any tips if you have used it please