Pair o' I.R.SEOLES

Just a few days after we installed a swish new RCBO board in our last video and one of the circuits is already tripping off! What gives? A fishing expedition with an I.R. tester ought to point us in the right direction.
Apologies for the 2018 camera work in a flashback segment - that was a job we captured on whatever shaky mobile phone we had with us at the time as it was before we started vlogging the day job, so the quality sucks and, yes, Nige did look like a freak with his short hair and long beard. Like a fine cheese, he gets better with age… up to a point. Eventually he’ll just turn blue and smell like feet.
On that job, if I remember rightly, the shower was earthed via the water bonding, but its copper pipe wasn’t in contact with the damp wall as it passed through the hole. The rail was in contact with the damp parts via its screws, and the sink taps via their copper pipes which were attached to the wall before joining onto plastic pipework (islanding them from the water bonding). Thus, when the old immersion cable was compromised in the wall, it made the damp section live along with any metalwork bolted onto it. If you touched the shower and tap, you got 180V straight across your nipples.
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[@imark7777777]

In the US GFCI's are usually at point of use aKa at the sockets we do have breakers but they are very often not used in favor of hiding a GFCI outlet somewhere behind some thing in the living room that feeds the outlets outside. They are only technically required in bathrooms, outdoors, kitchens and in wet areas. Yeah this level of testing is crazy for us at most will have a multi meter. Although we do have one thing going for us it is against code to have hidden junction so it either has to be behind a fixture with adequate space or in a box that's covered but accessible so when there's a fault you can split and work your way through circuits. unless of course you run into a property that has wonderfully covered over every hidden junction that they've made.......

[@dsesuk]

Ah, so the GFCI protection is usually at the outlet. Here we're required to protect the wiring, these days for pretty much everything, in case that should be damaged such as by someone knocking a nail through it. As for hidden junctions, well they're permitted where the junction connection is deemed to be 'permanent' such as through soldering or crimping, but I guess any wiring code is only as good as those who follow it, and both sides of the pond see installations by people who figure it's okay if it works, never mind how it works!

[@imark7777777]

​@@dsesuk yep I think hot tubs and pools require GFCI protection as well. Otherwise you don't really see it on 240V circuits only on the 120V circuits. I can count on my hand the number of times I've seen GFCI breakers in use. The UK has definitely been ahead of the game on safety around electrics which makes all the videos from over the pond fun to watch. Except those pesky plugs that lie pins up waiting for an unsuspecting victim like Legos... Especially tracking faults in ceilings that are finished LOL. We have a loophole that the homeowner can do their own work on their house and that is great to a point. That let me change out my entire electrical panel from a federal fire Pacific without having to hire anybody and do it reasonably well (some cables were too short had to be extended not a lot of length to work with) we will have to get it inspected upon sale of course which is somewhat of a new requirement. In a Previous house we rented we cut a hole behind the bedroom door and put a recessed box shelf in on the opposite side of this wall is a shower and much to my non-shocked discovery there were at least 3 buried junctions thankfully at least in boxes that were unaccessible. But I highly suspect that's why there was no ground conductor on the attic outlets. I wanted to get licensed for many years and it's still on my list. Darn Life just got in the way. In the meantime I go around making whatever I can safer. And have a reasonable knowledge of code.

[@ninaevans4501]

P.S. Mr Savery, you look very profound with that beard, keep it growing. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@dsesuk]

The wife orders me to strim it when it gets too long for her liking!

[@sheargillsparkie9588]

I enjoy watching down to earth, no nonsense sparks that have a sense of humour and are not wrapped up with glamourised hype about themselves. This is how the real sparks work, not making it sound like an easy fix and pretending it’s all rosy! Long live David and Nige 👍🏽

[@JIBS.]

HI David just spent the last couple of days watching through your videos and must say I think they're absolutely brilliant and helped me imensley with my training. No fancy edits, or fly by drones just proper sparky life.

[@olly7673]

Thanks chaps, another enjoyable installment. ..... your fault finding episodes do seems to go down well and how you are quick to get to the bottom of the issue is great to see, as in this one, done and dusted in a little over an hour! Some sparks might have taken half a day, if it was a quiet day for them, to work it out. As you said, fault finding can be hit and miss and be the polar opposite and take hours to sort out. More fault finding episodes gets a big thumbs up for me. I revisited the "Fixing another man's lash-up!" this week and really enjoyed the science behind that one. Keep 'em coming.

[@dsesuk]

Thanks Olly. We try to have the camera on the van when it looks like something interesting needs investigating.

[@SheddyIan]

You previously said that there might be a limit to how many new sparks videos you can make because you've covered it already, but I disagree. This video is fascinating, curious fault and is interesting to watch the fault diagnosis. Especially fascinating to see the 2018 live wall fault. Keep it up, most enjoyable and educational.

[@gd-bq7em]

You 2 are good at the fault finding process good videos to watch. Keep them coming lads 👍

[@stevejagger8602]

Another good piece of electrical detective work. I couldn’t work without a head torch, particularly on ceiling roses, to clearly see those pesky terminal screws. I’ve used the Petzl Tikka head torch for many years, with AAA rechargeable batteries, which generally lasts a working day, and gives plenty of light to work in the dark. Wearing glasses as well - varifocal in my case - means I need the light in exactly the right position to get clear sight of what I’m working on.

[@jessiepooch]

Informative and entertaining as usual. Thanks.

[@chema_lopez]

Thanks chaps, another enjoyable installment.

[@johnavery15]

Nice fault finding video. I always learn something!

[@oldbutstillcurious3615]

At 38:35 discovering the failure of an RCBO: electrical equipment is often rated for a particular current in a stated ambient air temperature - if the breaker had been running at near maximum current for long periods whilst adjacent to other hot breakers, August's unusually hot weather could have caused the device to overheat. ? Coincidence that Davd's shaver cable also failed in unusually hot weather ?

[@three-phase562]

Interesting video gents, some top fault location skills in use there. I have seen similar damage to 3 phase circuit breakers that have cleared multiple faults and the contacts have become damaged and then overheat, even just when on normal load. As you say, the history would likely reveal more about the failure, but that will be unknown for most installations of this type. Might even make me watch some of your other videos. 👍

[@JBE]

That bloody torch, abandoned and thought to be MIA, when in actual fact it's been gagging on farts inches away from a sparkys starfish all this time!! Ahh a nice flashback to 2018 before all the chaos of today's impending doom. Glued to my seat as usual guys, if only to see if you were actually going to start measuring dongs. Cheers David and Nigel I love a good IR fumbling in the dark upload.

[@dsesuk]

Best torch I've ever used Mr B. I didn't realise how much I'd missed it until it was back on the toolbelt!

[@markpunt9638]

Fascinating - thank you. Your videos are always full of insightful content. Too many “other electricians” now on here are just interested in making money from what they are doing on their channel. You are now the only one I subscribe to. Do you think that somebody’s bathroom wall could actually become live, with respect to Earth is quite frightening.

[@dsesuk]

Thanks Mark

[@metallitech]

Another great video, thanks.

[@Dog-whisperer7494]

Wow, the wall and shower rail was live , makes you wonder how many of that kind of fault exist in council houses one flats, But the main part of the video was interesting and and as always David you got it sorted and made safe and all is working properly, stop saying your videos are boring nonsense they are not give your self some credit mate. You and Nigel are a great team and a credit to the industry. We need more sparks like you to come in to the industry. Brilliant and most interesting video. As always mate. 👍👍👍👍👍👍❤️

[@dsesuk]

Cheers as always Sean!

[@freezefoot]

Learner Question: I may have misunderstood this but @ 3:58 looks like you have piggy backed neutral on earth(and then onto earth bar) and then both Line & Neutral cores into Brown Croc clips at RCBO? on other videos (with MCBs) L&N are linked and then just have Earth Croc by itself going to Earth Bar.Why do piggyback Neutral onto Earth in this scenario (hopefully not a stupid question) .Thank you for all your content this year and Best wishes for the New Year.

[@dsesuk]

Sorry for any confusion - it's not how it looks. The Metrel tester always has three leads connected because of its proprietary connector, however IR is a two-lead test with the voltage applied to the brown lead, and the green lead used for detection. The blue lead has nothing to so, so I keep it plugged into the green lead to keep it out of the way. In this instance, the brown lead is connected to both line and neutral with the green lead on the earth bar as you would expect. Blue is present, but isn't doing anything.

[@freezefoot]

Thank you for clarification

[@AndyFletcherX31]

I loved the spaceships

[@dsesuk]

I was surprised we didn't notice those passing overhead on the day...

[@siall123]

love you ufo bit nice fault find keep it up thanks siall

[@allanmould2633]

Another great vid dave f&cking brilliant

[@steverpcb]

Dave, if you are going to do torch reviews, then the Nebo Redline 1800 is great with fool proof switches :) For low cost options try Poundland for a £1 head torch or a £2 adjustable angle lamp that both use AAA batterys at £1 for a pack of 12 :)

[@markrainford1219]

You work in Poundland don't you? 😂

[@taxisteve60]

Good video lads

[@s.kxx1956]

Pretty sure that method of integrating the boiler within the fabric of the kitchen may go against gas safe regs !

[@tresslerj1985]

"sure" & "may"

[@mathman0101]

What testing do we use for running down GFCI faults in the US? The grey matter mate we think and investigate like you did🤔🤣 thinking without testing is just a mess. Seriously same as you lot using MFTs (I am one of the few that do this kind of testing) IR, continuity testing, circuit tracing and point of contact plug in sockets as someone has said below a lot of our RCDs are localized at point of use in terms of receptacles/sockets. Your own guidance note 3 recommends a floor and wall insulation resistance test - not seen one UK electrician do it in a residential setting but hey hey I do it all the time/ I got some pretty nifty sonel floor and wall insulation test pads to do it. I certainly think doing the wall and floor insulation resistance tests will pick up every now and then some dangerous fault which your old 2018 video indicated. A very good teaching moment right there about doing these rare types of tests…

[@markvinter7522]

Just found you, Enjoying your videos Will regards to thermal damage of breaker, yep have had all makes over the years give up the ghost. I have had thermal damage from poorly terminated cable (high resistance) creating heat at nominal current. thermal image ID excessive heat, found cable pushed though to far, retaining screw wound through insulation just making contact with copper creating heat. Terminals over tightened (must have been done up with impact driver) splitting retaining clamp. Ferals put on not crimped Crimps put on, crimped number to sheath, sheath taper to crush band. Thermal damage, yes can be component failure but can also be installation practice.(not pointing the finger, just saying it does happen) importantly though is how supplier responses, do they just replace with out question or start arguing the toss. Fully endorse periodic testing but have found thermal imaging helpful in large control Mcc’s. Ps stars war made me chuckle

[@dsesuk]

All good points, thanks Mark. I suspect if it were down to a poor connection then the thermal damage would have been around the terminals. This looks like something that's been running hot within, but I don't have the thing for disassembly to look further.

[@acelectricalsecurity]

I remember watching that DIY SOS, and Billy the bodger and the rest of the crew found it hilarious that a freshly plastered wall appeared to be live, because when he was putting his volt stick on the wall at various places it was lighting up.

[@dsesuk]

Volt sticks can be fairly useless and sometimes give completely false indication of an electric field being present (same with those crappy stud finders). That said, if they thought the wall was live then it would be no laughing matter. There was a case of a woman being electrocuted about three years ago because of a screw through a damp wall which had penetrated a cable. The property had been signed off as Satisfactory on an EICR and the guy who got done for it wasn't the drive-by 'inspector', but the QS back at base who'd signed off his paperwork!

[@acelectricalsecurity]

@@dsesuk yeah they are vague, yeah just like that MPs daughter, Jenny tong, I think, who got killed by a metal utensil rack, the builder/kitchen fitter had run the cables on the angle and I can only imagine the screw went through the live conductor, then she touched the rack and that was it, she was dead.

[@radiator7731]

@@dsesuk they gave us voltsticks on the railway, the overheads mean they're permanently on!

[@sharkyshark3296]

i always wondered what happen to Rik Mayall and Adrian Edmondson after Bottom , never would i have thought that they became Electricians .

[@taxisteve60]

I've recently had a lewden rcbo 32a type b also connected to car charger go down to thermal damage

[@ninaevans4501]

Mother loves you Dave, so does the other half. But as for Nige...... well🤪🤪!! As for me, have another date elsewhere. Dark, and furry, I'll stick to sheep! No seriously, another great vid from you both. You're great, please both TAKE CARE. Wayne & Nina (Ipswich, Suffolk) ❤️❤️❤️👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@FrontSideBus]

Funny about the end bit... I was just thinking how you are looking more and more like Obi-Wan Kenobi with that beard.

[@dsesuk]

The wife has since made me shave it off. We're going to a wedding in a few days and she doesn't want me looking like Nigel.

[@HeathenGeek]

I need to do some vids. First one would be on the LED Lenser MH10 Rechargeable Headlamp. Get your bad selves one of those each and the problem of having to throw electrical accessories at the apprentice for not holding the torch properly will disappear.

[@dsesuk]

LED Lenser are pretty good, but it's the wearing of a head torch I never could get on with. I'm not sure why.

[@Bazza-tn5ck]

Another good video with Dave and Nige, I have a question which is slightly off topic but o would be interested in your opinion. It’s regarding EV charge points and RCD protection. As we are aware RCD protection must be provided (30ma/6madc etc. etc. ) now in my opinion although some chargers, zappi for instance have integral 30ma double pole RCD which they claim complies but in my opinion to comply with BS7671 a manual test button should be present which (correct me if I’m Wrong) isn’t. So I believe a separate RCD should be installed?? What’s your opinion Dave? Cheers pal.

[@MrBinabanana]

19:30 Sounds like you're over the border in Birmingham!

[@lukecourtney5602]

Olight are the best for headtorches. 👌

[@Nypartcannon]

Disappointed in the lack of shower scene 😂

[@NivagSwerdna]

@21:00 Rental property with electrified shower and taps... nice!

[@hackwoodelectrical]

Great video again chaps! Could a surge cause damage to the OCPD which could effect its performance over time with a continuous load near its 32A limit?

[@metallitech]

I think that the regulations have required surge protection on all new installations since 2019, so there's every chance that it had this.

[@markrainford1219]

@@metallitech Surge protection is not required all new installations, it depends. For what they cost now I don't know a good reason why you wouldn't though.

[@hackwoodelectrical]

@@metallitech it’s a fair shout… most installs should have spd installed but budgets etc don’t always allow for it and I’d never assume it’s always installed on new installs or board changes Also just asking in general if surges could affect OCPDs especially AFDDs… (yes surge should be installed but what if it’s faulty and the client doesn’t know)

[@metallitech]

@@hackwoodelectrical I think the thing to do is just to not install Made-In-China components.

[@hackwoodelectrical]

@@metallitech if only it was that easy… everything seems to come from china

[@richardjones3112]

😂😂😂brilliant entertainment, fair play.

[@gd-bq7em]

Hi David. Quick question I do some work for white goods shops sometimes they ask me to go out to a job where they have been because they can't install say a 13 amp single oven because it's been hard wired straight into 32 amp supply. So they want me to install a socket there or fuse spur but with these new regs it's turning into a right pain with these type a rcds. How are you getting round little installs of this nature without saying you need a new c.u lol. I would of thought a 13 amp single oven would be fine on a type ac rcd but all I keep hearing dc components Needs type a rcd Thanks

[@dsesuk]

Don't forget that changes to BS7671 are not retrospective. You can undertake like-for-like changes on older installations without them having to meet the letter of 18th Edition Amendment 2. It's the same with something such as lighting - 18th Edition says domestic luminaires should have RCD protection, but if you go to some pensioner's house to replace a failed light fitting, there's no need to insist their old BS3036 board be entirely changed out first and leave 'em in the dark until it's done! If a wholly new circuit is going in for the cooker, then it would have to comply with 18th A2, but if it's an existing circuit, with or without RCD protection, Type-AC or not, then you can perform a like-for-like swap of the appliance unless the manufacturer states that RCD protection must be present for their equipment. Type-AC RCDs aren't suddenly dangerous or inadequate, although I'm sure there are moody EICRs being performed up and down the country where pre-A2 consumer units are being C2'd by the Check-a-Trade cowboys. Amendment 2 even still permits Type-AC for resistive loads on new circuits, and the testing requires only a 1x Type-AC for any minor works certificate if an RCD is present. Make your like-for-like changes but note on the minor works if an RCD isn't installed or if it's a Type-AC, and also state in the comments section that you recommend the installation be inspected and tested to see if upgrade work is required. That puts it onto the homeowner to decide whether or not they should splash out on any improvements.

[@gd-bq7em]

@@dsesuk hi mate thanks for response yes if its like for like then as long as all the tests come back right it's installed. But alot of the time the appliance has not been installed correctly say the 13 amp oven was wired directly in to the 32 amp cooker supply. The shop then want me to install a socket on the end of that cable so they can then go and plug the oven in would only install the socket if there was type ac rcd protection. But Now after speaking with technical they are saying that socket installed or fuse spur would now need type A rcd because of the dc components that are in the oven. Which to me is a bit silly to me because it'ssafer than it was before. Was just looking for your take cus I trust your opinion more than there's lol I don't want to foul any regs but don't want to charge people for things not needed. Thanks

[@dsesuk]

@@gd-bq7em It's a bit much to expect Type-A to be present on any installation predating 2018 and I doubt something like an oven would add too much of a headache for a Type-AC device personally. You're in a world of pain if you're being told that a straightforward minor works job now has to have that kind of protection in place because it either means an upgrade to the RCD/RCBO in the CU (which invokes an EIC instead of a MW), or installation of a sub-board or new CU because the existing stuff on site is obsolete and cannot be upgraded. Meanwhile, Joe Homeowner tells you to bugger off because he's just blown £500 on a new oven and can't afford expensive upgrades he doesn't think is necessary, and after he's shut the door on you, he'll get on the phone to just about any other local spark who'll come and do the job without a second thought. I'm certainly not going to insist on Type-A for any and every like-for-like minor works job! Remember too that the RCDs we're talking of are for additional protection - if the cooker circuit has its primary means of shock protection, i.e., the earthing is present and correct, then that's what'll do the business in the event of a fault. I'd do the job, log the details on the MW, and note in the comments that the homeowner has been advised on inspection, testing and recommended upgrades. That's as much as I'm obliged to do and it puts the ball in their court where it belongs. They're the ones living with the installation and in control of whatever budget they can throw at it. The lack of a Type-A RCD or even the lack of an RCD wholly is not necessarily a problem and certainly isn't something I'd insist on like some kind of sparky Gestapo! If a family on the breadline has an oven that's failed and they've scraped together just enough to buy a new one, any suggestion that it can't be installed in place of the old one unless they now find the money to pay for CU upgrades is a nonsense and effectively holds them to ransom. Same for lighting or anything else. Most of the people who have the worst electrical installations either can't afford better or are in accommodation they're not responsible for and cannot improve directly. Do your minor works job, check EFLI, IR and the OCPD are correct for the circuit and cover your arse in the comments section. That's what it's there for. Also, go tell Technical to wise up. There's a real world outside of their comfy office and they should try visiting it sometime!

[@gd-bq7em]

@@dsesuk I totally agree mate. I said that to the napit tech. people just won't pay and they will end up using an extension lead to the nearest socket and that even worse. Thanks for your advice I appreciate it. if its a new circuit i totally understand it go all guns blazing type A rcd spd the works . But just a slight alteration like putting a socket or a fuse spur in-between the cooker cable and oven then saying it needs type A is silly. I am just going to stick to the same way as always been doing it never had no probs before. Like you say I can't see how a cooker is going to give a ac rcd any real problems. I appreciate you time mate like I say I will take the opinion of a top spark like you over there's any day thanks

[@dsesuk]

@@gd-bq7em Ah, NAPIT tech. I'm not sure I'd trust them to tell me the time from a digital watch. The CPS tech peeps always go exactly by the book... unlike the real world which has an annoying habit of deviating from it!

[@Fishbait075]

Star wars over Warwickshire? It's on older fault sir, but it still checks out! Very intresting damp wall problem. Badly fitted tiling? Or a leak elsewhere?

[@dsesuk]

Y'know, I can't remember the cause now. A shame we weren't really vlogging back then as that was one of the more interesting ones we've come across, but the recorded footage is poor and limited in scope.

[@brettuk]

hi. i am new to your videos but i can tell that you're not too happy with with what your producing. Just wanted to say that eeven though you may feel that the content is not exactly raising the bar, your audience perspective differs (in my humble opionion). no need to apologise for anything cos it's our choice to watch and i laugh loads with the banter between you both + the occasionaly weirdness :D

[@cm0916]

Agreed makes a change just watching two sparks take the piss out of each other instead of watching a video and dealing with the “ I’d like to take a minute and talk to you about todays sponsor ….. TRADIFY “ nonsense!

[@stevejagger8602]

Should higher current RCBO’s or MCB’s have spacers fitted between them or spaced by lower current rated devices, rather than being mounted together?

[@danielelise7348]

Hey mate,so are you thinking in terms of better heat dissipation are you??or just an air gap for better circulation?🤔

[@stevejagger8602]

@@danielelise7348heat dissipation for devices which are carrying higher current. If they are mounted side by side then overheating leading to failure is possible. There are other environmental factors to consider as well. Humidity, ambient temperature, condensation, loose connections, etc.

[@danielelise7348]

@@stevejagger8602 Yep, I have actually given this quite a bit of thought too, even entertained the idea of incorporating a thermo-fan into boards with heavy loads,but obviously space is at a premium in a board so...!?not sure about that!

[@stevejagger8602]

@@danielelise7348 Extra spacing implies higher cost. Is the volume of material used in making contacts and terminals being paired down to the minimum to pass the required current. This has happened to higher current using domestic equipment like kettles.

[@dsesuk]

The same questions were asked of the new AFDDs which run hotter because of the electronics inside them, but the fact is no manufacturer instructs you to leave an air gap, and if such were needed they'd design it into the CU. So long as busbars and boards are designed for protective devices to physically sit side-by-side, then it's not for the likes of me to start second guessing heat dissipation and airflow currents within the enclosure.

[@sarahjrandomnumbers]

38:46 Oooh, excitement stains!

[@YGELLYPIKER]

Hot hot was that breakers neighbour?was it next to a shower or similar circuit running at full load

[@datsunruss]

Jesus - I bet the wife who was getting a tickle every time she got a shower is pleased that it is sorted out. 👍Nice one chaps

[@mattsummers2467]

Should the bathroom not have a IP rated light? 🤔👍

[@dsesuk]

Why? It's not in any zone. It also has the extended skirt, a design brought in for bathrooms many moons ago (actually called the H.O. skirt because the Home Office introduced it I believe!) The light is no more or less IP rated than the pullcord switch or, if they were present, a shower pullcord isolator, fan pullcord isolator, ceiling fan, fused isolator or anything else you'd find out of zone on a bathroom ceiling. The only stipulation for an electrical item in a room such as this, when out of zone, is that it be fit to be present in there. This fitting is insulated, won't corrode and the base of the lamp is covered by the extended skirt preventing access by all except those who really want to start taking it apart with wet hands while it's on and while they're standing on a metal step ladder. When it comes to that, I'm all for natural selection - let physics sort them out!

[@mattsummers2467]

@@dsesuk - Thanks for your reply. I thought because it’s a rental it needs IP rating and RCD protection or bonding. However, I will bow to your wisdom and keep silent to those 2 landlords who I have robbed this year by saying they needed to change the light fitting to one suitable for a bathroom. Guessing you wouldn’t code it c3 just make a note? Thanks again 😎👍

[@mattsummers2467]

I remember as a child playing cowboys 🤠 and shouting the bathroom light with a water pistol 🔫 it exploded, I went downstairs, after taking off my ‘cunning disguise’ and told my parents “ I just turned the light on and it’s exploded”. It would have never happed with an IP rated LED 😝.. might have gotten away with it if I’d not still been holding the water pistol 😂😂😂

[@dsesuk]

Ah, those incandescent lamps used to run pretty hot, so a jet of water hitting the glass could shatter them. But then, all bets are off on any electrical equipment that's being subject to mistreatment! As for IP lighting; well, there's nothing wrong with it. Personally, I wouldn't comment or code on a skirted batten fitting that's out of zone.

[@mfx1]

If a company lends you equipment to test then it's your duty to test it in real world conditions and if it breaks then it's not your problem.

[@RichardArblaster]

You watch now, after you've bounced the metrel off the floor, they'll ask for it back 😆😆😆

[@dsesuk]

They'll get it back with genuine field service scars Dickie!

[@oninbridders]

David, I don't think if your ever have explained if you guys always work together in a team or just for the videos? Can you answer this in a video (or here will be fine). I guess is it safer to work in twos? If you don't what does Nigel do when he's not working with you.

[@dsesuk]

Both Nigel and I are employees of the company, so we're stuck in each other's company all. the. damn. time.

[@davidpatterson1574]

Thank team--

[@steverpcb]

A quicky for everyone, cable of whatever type buried less than 600mm deep with no "electric cable below" tape, pass or fail ?

[@Mattja1]

Depends on situation. For example if it's an SWA going into the ground on the side of a house, next to the side-passage connecting the front and back gardens, and remerging about a meter away on the fence directly opposite, then I wouldn't worry how shallow it is or whether there's any tape as it's presence and route is obvious. Beyond cases like that use your judgement, taking into account what would happen if someone were to impact the cable with a shovel or similar, exactly how deep it is buried, and how apparent the route is (could someone dig there and not be aware of a cable?). If it's an SWA with the armour continuity to earth confirmed and a working protective device at the supply end (MCB at least, although additional protection from an RCD would be nice), or a cable in earth metallic ducting I'd probably put it down as a C3, since the potential danger is somewhat mitigated (impact with the live part with short to the armour and trip the device). For something non-armoured in standard ducting then you can only consider where it is and the chance of disturbance to decide between C3 and failure (or perhaps nothing if it's very obvious like my earlier example). If some muppet has stuck a bit of twin and earth or flex or whatever else inappropriate under their garden without protection that's a failure regardless of how deep it is or tape/no tape.

[@ConorNoakes]

2018 footage looks like you could've done with some Diazepam!

[@ThePa1ch]

A 'low failure rate' or ' a small number of users have experienced this issue ' is just the kind of legal speak that comes out of companies like apple before they initiate a repair programme.

[@islandhopperstuart]

Funny, that spaceship didn't come over Redditch....

[@dsesuk]

I think they turned left at Wootton Wawen and headed Evesham way.

[@islandhopperstuart]

@@dsesuk Phil the Plumber would have seen it then, unless he was flying it?

[@steviecandtheplace2b]

Oh, how much I’d want to be your apprentice….

[@dsesuk]

We're even more boring in real life.

[@steviecandtheplace2b]

@@dsesuk try me :)

[@ryanfuller964]

17:44 if nigels beard was a bit longer he would like bigclive. i though the cigar smoking was like an april fools joke but it seems like your serious.

[@Marshun]

Keeps him off the booze and actually smelling a bit nicer.

[@ryanfuller964]

@@Marshun Thats one way of looking at it. But the big question is why a "devilishly handsome" and "well hung stud". would start smoking cigars in there late 40s. sounds like a midlife crisis or could be the start of something even worse.

[@Swwils]

SBS should just use the low heat type of electricity.

[@supersparks9466]

Still didn’t remove that box

[@dsesuk]

There was a scene where we addressed that and your annoyance with it... but we chose to leave it in place to mess with your Feng Shui! Sadly, it didn't make the edit.

[@supersparks9466]

@@dsesuk disappointed of Twickenham

[@ninaevans4501]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍👍👍❤️ Nina.

[@generaldisarray]

31:50 Mickey Mouse will pay you a visit and f you up, f you up good...🤣🤣 40:50 but he said he stuck a monitor on it and it never saw more than 30 amps. Manufacturing faults do happen, I've seen servers that cost tens of thousands be DOA cos of a manufacturing fault. Dan the Man should open that up and see what went wrong, it could be as simple as a duff contact causing arcing and thus heat build up. If the non latching 40 amp, he mentions, was next to the 32 amp one, the heat may have caused the 40 amp's externals/internals to deform causing that issue.

[@dsesuk]

My understanding is that it was an existing device that was being monitored only after the EV charger went in. Its history prior to that and, presumably, going back to 2018, is not known. The thermal damage may have existed before the EV installation - it was only found when Dan went back to change it for a Type-A I believe.

[@generaldisarray]

@@dsesuk I've been there have that t-shirt. The shower in a rental place I lived in before would always trip out the MCB after around 10 minutes of use, so if you have 2 people using the shower, one after the other, it would cut out on the 2nd person. The shower was on a 32 amp MCB, probably the MCB that came pre-installed in the CU. Issue was the shower was a 9kW shower so should have been on a 40 amp MCB. Once the MCB was changed it all worked fine. It just seems some sparks can't do simple maths, cos even a 8kW shower would really need a bigger MCB than 32 amp, if it's going to be used for any length of time.

[@ninaevans4501]

As a last, DO NOT TAKE ON ANY MAINS ELECTRICAL INSTALLATIONS UNLESS YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE WORK YOU ARE UNDERTAKING. ALWAYS HAVE YOUR WIRING INSPECTED BY A QUALIFIED, TRUSTED ELECTRICIAN. OTHERWISE DIY COULD STAND FOR Death Is Your resposibility.👍

[@carlhobson1578]

Unfortunately there’s going to be a percentage failure rate, no matter who the manufacturer is. As long as it’s not a known manufacturing or design fault that requires a product recall you just have to take it on the chin.

[@mattcartwright8272]

I was on my way back from a bit of doggin'...Sorry, I mean dog walking and saw your trusty tranny on the side of the road. My immediate thought was there aren't enough little flashy lights on that van. Come on lads sort it out. Surely a sparky's wagon should look like a mobile christmas tree?

[@Marshun]

I'm sure Dave'll be up for more flashing lights. He should be turning the illuminated signs on more often.

[@dsesuk]

Ah, was that on Radford Road last Thursday? That's the last time I had the Christmas lights twinkling away for a few hours!

[@mattcartwright8272]

@@dsesuk Yep, Radford Road.

[@AndyK.1]

Come on Dave. Split half technique.

[@SME_Ste]

Regardless of which non big name brand is used, when or if something goes tits up, theres never a proper technical contact at the companies. Thats the issue Ihave with them.

[@Actual_electrical_content]

please please please put the shower video up as a separate video with a clickbait title to get it out ther eits one of them things nobody would believe

[@dsesuk]

Ah, that was an interesting fault old chap. If only we had some decent footage of it from the day. Frankly, I'm amazed I still have the shaky mobile stuff shown here. These days, if called to such a fault, we'd be sure to have the 4K camera and wireless mic loaded onto the van!

[@David_11111]

yay 100th like lol my claim to fame not!

[@dsesuk]

Thanks David.

[@Sharron-Idol]

If I hold off my donations for a month or so it's because I'm enjoying my honorary virginity prior to my impending whoredom. I know I should be giving something for partaking of content of such quality; but money's a bit tight for the next few weeks. I must admit that this is the first time that I've ever heard of a high-voltage wall. - 'Quite amazing! The homeowner was literally shocked by the dampness in the property.

[@dsesuk]

Oh, there are always better things to spend the coins on than a couple of old fools blowing it on coffee and cigars! I'm pleased we were able to restore your honour though!

[@TheLastPariah89]

( Y )

[@diesel508]

When ur a nob and u don’t realise

[@damonbtc9701]

A wee tiny high resolution camp meter maybe what the yanks use. Its an OK first call