Pairing the Fellow Ode Grinder with our April Brewer | Coffee with April

[@petercho2462]

Tried your method today and turned out about amazing!!!

[@timoge2740]

Do you think the Ode is a significant improvement in cup quality over the niche considering similar grind size and April brewer with your technique? If not, any brew grinder you can recommend? Thanks

[@peterr4390]

Option-o Lagom P64 review?

[@canaansmith1700]

Thanks for the great video. I think I’ll stick to my Niche - the workflow on the Ode seems annoying and the actual grind quality doesn’t look that much better.

[@listen429]

Is there an April Brewer brew guide for the Eureka Filtro Pro?thx

[@adriancahyazahroni5063]

Niche Zero review & test please

[@josephlee9436]

Can you please explain your comment about grind size for roast profile? It goes against everything written and said by any notable coffee source/expert!

[@RealBonk]

Well... He is an expert. However, everyone's taste is different and it's worth messing around with grind size in your own brews! I could be wrong, but my understanding is the finer the more you're extracting due to larger surface areas, so it's dependent on the bean itself for what flavors you want to extract. From what Patrick said, makes sense, the darker the roast the faster it extracts the smokey/earthy/woody flavors and you'd want to grind coarser to allow less contact time with the grounds (if you don't want the smokey/earthy/woody flavors).

[@josephlee9436]

@@RealBonk please go to time index 2:20. He says light-roast = coarser grind. Admittedly that whole segment was confusing so perhaps I misunderstood but there’s another comment thread here where he responds to confirm this interpretation. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Also I made no mention of his qualifications, just that what he says in the video conflicts with what other well respected coffee folks have said on this subject.

[@RealBonk]

@@josephlee9436 I mean he got 2nd at a World Brewer's Cup and if you look up the winning recipes they are often coarsely grind light roasts. I admit he didn't explain it clearly, but for pour overs it seems to be the case. He briefly said that water passes through the light roast slower, so I assume a coarser grind helps the water pass through the coffee at a reasonable rate to meet the desired brew times.

[@josephlee9436]

​@@RealBonk Placing 2nd at the Brewer's Cup doesn't make anyone the source of truth for all things coffee. I think it's totally fair to question blanket statements that conflict with well-understood principles and the consensus of experts which is what I was doing with my original comment. And again, I was not trying to question his qualifications. I don't understand why you keep bringing this up. And as far as "if you look up the winning recipes they are often coarsely grind light roasts" this is absolutely false. Please google the totality of Brewer's Cup recipes for various years and you'll see most use a finer grind for a lighter roast as many other coffee folks out there and on YT will state. Any time you see a light roast coarse grind combo it's intentionally done to achieve a certain taste profile and often with some adjustment to the brewing method. I get the impression this guy doesn't really care to explain himself and feels, much like you do apparently, that since he is such an expert what he says should be accepted as fact. If that works for you, great! It doesn't for me so I've unsubscribed and instructed YT to ignore this channel. Easy peasy! Edit: To see a coffee pro that I think is worth my time, please see James Hoffmann

[@RealBonk]

@@josephlee9436 alright

[@johs12345]

Hey Patrick, quick question! Does your Ode unit have a low-pitched humming/buzzing, when not grinding (being in idle)? I bought mine from a Swedish reseller, and their batch of grinders seem to all have that issue.

[@cullensmith2342]

Hey Pat. Just a quick question, you mentioned you tend to grind coarser for lighter roaster coffees, why is this? Wouldn’t they be less soluble and harder to extract leading to a finer grind to compensate? Cheers

[@coffeewithapril]

It's pretty much the opposite.

[@KennyCederholm]

@@coffeewithapril Thats not right. Have you confused fine and coars grind? Fine is smaller particles and coars is bigger. For light roast coffee you need smaller particles = finer grind.

[@coffeewithapril]

@@KennyCederholm Thank you for watching. No confusion here, we always recommend the opposite. Lighter roasted coffee in general extract much easier than darker roasted coffee.

[@inuyashaspet]

@@coffeewithapril I find water passes through dark roasts much faster, so this makes sense. But do you turn down the temperature of dark roasts to compensate for unpleasant, bitter tastes that get extracted more than light roasts?

[@coffeewithapril]

@@inuyashaspet no we don't, it's a fair thing to try but we find it easier not to brew dark roasts.

[@happymartin11]

Is there an April Brewer brew guide for larger amounts of coffee for the Wilfa Uniform, too? And where can I find it? Thanks.

[@coffeewithapril]

We have done a video on the Uniform.

[@happymartin11]

@@coffeewithapril I know, I watched it. But there is only a recipe and Grind setting for 13 gr. Coffee to 200 ml water. No Grind setting and recipes for larger doses like 500 ml water. And no chart. 😉

[@coffeewithapril]

@@happymartin11 True, you would have to do some experiments. But keep the pouring structure that we use in this video for the different volumes.

[@happymartin11]

@@coffeewithapril Thanks. I will try and experiment.