Pakistan's DARK Secret: Why Ahmadi Muslims Were CENSORED! | The Untold History

Though once celebrated during Pakistan's inception and endorsed by Muhammad Ali Jinnah, Ahmadis are now severely persecuted. In this podcast, you will hear the untold story of Ahmadis and why Pakistan censored them. Uncover the perplexing turn of events that led to their persecution and the imposition of Ordinance XX, prohibiting Ahmadis from practising Islam. Delve into the lingering suppression, including bans on Ahmadi literature, as we reveal a story often overlooked by many Muslims and intentionally concealed by Pakistan. Discover the hidden truths the scholars of Pakistan don't want you to know! Asif Mahmood Basit and Fatir Tahir discuss.
Sources & further reading:
- Further reading on the Kashmir Committee: Self and Sovereignty (by Ayesha Jalal)
- Further reading on 1974 Ahmadiyya episode:
www.dawn.com/news/amp/1057427
- Jinnah's Speech - "Lost and found speech":
www.dawn.com/news/amp/1332701
- The Munir Enquiry Report details:
www.alhakam.org/the-munir-inquiry-report/
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0:00 Intro
4:25 Ahmadis integral in creation of Pakistan
5:00 Jinnah requests Ahmadi Caliph for prayers
11:24 Why was the Caliph's opinion so valued?
12:49 Ahmadi Caliph chosen to lead All India Kashmir Committee
16:40 All Muslim leaders stood behind Caliph
18:21 Ahmadis now seen as a threat
19:40 Muslim 'scholars' against creation of Pakistan
21:30 Tape of Jinnah's speech DISAPPEARS
23:50 Sir Zafrulla Khan cancelled
30:40 Anti Ahmadiyya agitation of 1953
34:30 Munir Enquiry Report
36:34 Muslim scholars unable to define 'Muslim'
38:18 Abdus Salam - First Nobel prize
42:00 Lawyer of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto
45:10 Ahmadiyya growth needs to be stopped
47:23 In 1974 Ahmadis declared non-Muslims

[@AlHakamOnline]

📢 As many people want to know more, we've added further reading and references and links to articles in the description! More videos to come as well! Stay tuned.

[@PACEMAKER.313]

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[@guldukan]

If Pakistan secular then what is the difference between India and what is the need of Pakistan if poor chaiwala can rule stay above Elites

[@shaistaazhar2184]

@@guldukan Creation of Pakistan seems to be an opportunity for Muslims to live peacefully practicing real Islam but the Ulema and elites got corrupted and made a mess out of this country .

[@googly3515]

I can't wait for the time when these facts based videos of the Ahmadiyya Muslim community reach the levels of millions of views from the public ❤. I am discovering my faith too late now. I didn't know this Jamath is so much of a heaven on this very earth.

[@penco_1]

Dear beloved, it's never too late. Alhamdulillah!!!

[@PACEMAKER.313]

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[@Alstiyan33]

I m a muslim not Ahmadi but if any other person believes in Allah and Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) then no one has given me or any other person the right to call him non-muslim and kafir...yes there are differences and Ahmadis believe in Mirza G A Qadiyani and I accept that Ahmadis are on the wrong path but calling them non-muslims is biggest joke and ignorance because like us u also believe in لا إله إلا الله محمد رسول الله which is the most basic thing in islam. Criticism for the sake of criticism only is hypocrisy but criticism for the sake of knowledge is good Allah has given us brains and we all should go through books, opinions, thinking, and points of each other's school of thought with an unbiased mind and then decide...If Allah wills he will show the right path.

[@saahil1260]

It's a cult . Ahmedis are leaving Qadiani cult day by day and accepting true Islam

[@saahil1260]

@@Alstiyan33 You are ignorant and nothing is known about Mira Qadiani and his fabricated religion Qadianiat. Read Mirza books before you pass any judgement about Qadianis and declare them Muslim. Here are a few eye-opener videos for you: Ahmadi/Qadiani kalima kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3ake4asgLuerrc Qadiani (Ahmadi) Ka Apnay Kufr Ka Aitraaf | Live Debate | Part-7 kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4jGZ4SMiNSpgaM

[@navid2602]

Alhamdolillah, Mashallah! What a grandiose topic. Outstandingly done by both of you. I'm from Germany, I'm young. And I've always wanted to have history explained. I haven't seen anything better than this video so far about That topic. Jazakallah Keep doing Videos Like That. Our Generation Need this. Assalam o Alleikum wwb.

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[@PACEMAKER.313]

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[@ravindramorey5433]

Now that is epic. Jinha made a country for Muslim's on basis of islam and then when asked about Ahmadi he said who am i to decide about anybody's faith. Bravo.

[@AlHakamOnline]

Exactly!

[@asadasadaz]

Yea we have a parliament, who labelled them non Muslim the parliament. Democratically

[@saliqamansoor8596]

I have been searching for the Ahmadiyya perspective for a long time....please upload more info about pakistani history so our generation knows the truth

[@sindarta3196]

Read 1974 proceeding of National Assembly. Or read Nawai Waqt article by Justice Munir retd.

[@AlHakamOnline]

More on these topics to come, insha'Allah. Stay tuned!

[@ViewsNewsChannel]

Know your history Watch the documentary: "The Road to Freedom: Allama Mashriqi's Historic Journey from Amritsar to Lahore" kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4GyamyqpMuFa9U "The British Chessboard: Jinnah, Gandhi, and the Strategic Divide of India" kzbin.info/www/bejne/gmacc2OXotZ9iZI

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5 mins in and I'm loving this. Amazing topic. Thank you in advance. I'd love to know more about the history of our Jama'at. ❤

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[@Zubair401]

Amazingly explained Alhumdulillah

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[@qasimzafars7371]

Jazak’Allah I learned so much from this podcast we need more these types of videos

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[@ABT-ns1w]

Hope Pakistani diaspora listen to this.

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As do we!

[@ABT-ns1w]

Interesting topic!

[@AlHakamOnline]

Glad you think so!

[@harshmanhv]

Man i want the second video too it was sooo good ❤️ Kindly make it public for a day please

[@user-xf6cu7rk7n]

Can you leave the descriptions and the names for a few more seconds so we can read easier

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[@suleimanomipidan8012]

This is very interesting!

[@AlHakamOnline]

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[@mrss3058]

In every single country ...alhamdulilah

[@AhmadiGh]

Informative ❤

[@AlHakamOnline]

Glad you think so!

[@luqmanahmad9294]

We need!! More podcast like this.

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[@SyedaAmtulKarim-oq3ww]

Amazing discussion here, love to see more....stay blessed

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[@user-mr1qp7wt5x]

By the all holy books and medical science dead mankind is non communicable and if you call dead personalities or prophets along with Allah (God) and seek help from dead mankind then you will Never go to the heaven and if you don't agree with me then after death liar will take other's and his whole nation's sins, do you agree? Be brave now? (Don't relate pseudo Muslims with Holy Quran.)According to the Holy Quran ahmadi kadyanis are agents of Satan, if you don't agree with me then after death liar will take other's and his whole nation's sins, do you agree? Be brave now? (Don't relate pseudo Muslims with Holy Quran.)

[@jasha9sandhu]

It's Such a unique historical happening that ahmadiyas/qadianis lent huge support to Jinnah 's vile design to break up India and ended up being at receiving end of same ISLAMISM.

[@jasha9sandhu]

Qadianis betrayed Punjab, rallied Punjabi muslims in support of Pakistan in effect partition/bloodshed of Pakistan. Qadianis got cursed and were persecuted into oblivion by same ISLAMISTS whom they supported.

[@sheikhmohib]

Amazing content 💯

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[@MC-qr1js]

Mashallah, very much informative program. But it needs more discussion in detail for the young Generation.

[@uzaerahmed]

Great show Masha Allah. Do we have any independent evidence for the claims from 13 minute onwards? Regarding Khalifa Thani r.a being chosen by Muslims

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Yes, of course. It's all on record. Links and references coming in description very soon!

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Well done 👍

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Thanks!

[@mubariksiddiqi2828]

Excellent program

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Thanks!

[@tousifahmed1597]

Mashallah much needed explanation

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Jazaka'Allah!

[@syedaseema3002]

Very informative

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Good content 💯

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[@sammuel2988]

Finally i got it (what they both talking about). Alhamdulillah

[@ijasahmed5082]

No one can sit and lie for this long except ahmadis

[@bilala4887]

JazakAllah Al hakam. For sharing the historical and very spiritual informations.

[@syediftekharahmed8843]

Excellent Well-done

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Jazaka'Allah!

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Keep it up

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Good work

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Jazaka'Allah!

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Thank God the video is back ..... Hope everything is ok❤

[@bhattibhatti9494]

To some, the truth hurts. Pakistanis must read the real history.

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Indeed!

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Amazing podcast.

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[@finity9316]

Who found the lost Jinnah tape ?

[@AlHakamOnline]

See description.

[@OneAajis]

Can this nice program be streamed in urdu

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Good video

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ہماری سب سے بڑی طاقت خدا تعالٰی کی ذات ہے۔ ہمیں جو مدد ملنی ہے وہ خدا تعالٰی سے ملنی ہے۔ ہماری تو معمولی سی کوشش ہے جو اُس کے حکم کے ماتحت ہم کر رہے ہیں۔ جو کرنا ہے وہ تو اصل میں خدا تعالٰی نے ہی کرنا ہے۔ اپنے خدا کو کبھی نہ بھولیں۔ نمازیں وقت پر ادا ہوں اور ذکرِ الٰہی اور دعاؤں سے اپنی زبانوں کو تر رکھیں۔ حضرت اقدس مسیح موعود علیہ الصلوۃ والسلام ایک جگہ فرماتے ہیں کہ ’’مَیں بھیجا گیا ہوں کہ تا سچائی اور ایمان کا زمانہ پھر آوے اور دلوں میں تقویٰ پیدا ہو۔‘‘ (کتاب البریہ۔ روحانی خزائن جلد 13صفحہ 293۔ حاشیہ)

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[@azadrpatel]

Bohra Muslims of India are the most prosperous loyal citizens and respected community ….loved by everyone

[@samaiam3772]

And how r u folks placed now in pakistan vs india? Where r u safer today?

[@srkchandrala1071]

The Ahmadi Community (born in the Spiritual land of India) spearheaded the division of Muslims from Hindus. Fate (KARMA) made them Landless. The moral of the story is fight for your individual rights but never destroy the group or the land that gives you the identity.

[@AlizaKhan-tc2gz]

Please Make this video with Urdu sub title thanks

[@modassarraja1193]

Jazakallah khair 🌹❤️🇵🇸

[@rubiahmed2458]

Please leave the labels/captions a bit longer on documents....they move too fast. Also, is this historian an Ahmadi?

[@AlHakamOnline]

Thanks for the feedback. Yes, he is an Ahmadi Muslim but the sources he quotes are not Ahmadi sources.

[@bilalahmaddihllon]

Great

[@patrickdial5810]

Pakistan, by expelling more than 30 million Muslims out of Islam, has the greatest anti-Muslim record in History. India respects and love the Ahmadis, one of the reasons being that the language of Ahmadiyat is Urdu, an Indian language.

[@mohammadmahmood5881]

Absolutely right

[@usamaawan4165]

amazing history

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And also hidden history!

[@Jazbanadeem]

Mashallah

[@syedhasan5861]

Holy Quran 4:159 Every one of the people of the Book will definitely believe in him before his death. 1 And on the Day of Judgment Jesus(Peace be Upon Him) will bear witness against them. وَإِن مِّنْ أَهْلِ ٱلْكِتَـٰبِ إِلَّا لَيُؤْمِنَنَّ بِهِۦ قَبْلَ مَوْتِهِۦ ۖ وَيَوْمَ ٱلْقِيَـٰمَةِ يَكُونُ عَلَيْهِمْ شَهِيدًۭا ١٥٩ Mirza Ghulam Ahmad stated and claimed that between 1874 and until his death in May 1908 that he was Jesus AS the Messiah but when Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was on his deathbed in April and May 1908 most of the Jewish people and most of the christians in April and May 1908 never believed that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was Jesus AS the Messiah! This proves that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was a liar, a deceiver and a false prophet!

[@jasha9sandhu]

It's Such a unique historical happening that ahmadiyas/qadianis lent huge support to Jinnah 's vile design to break up India and ended up being at receiving end of same ISLAMISM.

[@shankargopal4150]

karma

[@einsteinwallah2]

when prophet was fearing end time practically every other day and predicted its coming before a living child of his time will grow old end time did not come and when ahmadi said their leader is mahdi then nobody believes and indeed muslims are divided between shia sunni deobandi barelvi and last but not least ahmadis who have leaders who invite jinnah to return to india to lead pakistan movement ... so tell me you all muslims when end time is coming and when there will be 73 sects ... i have heard number of sects along with believers is declining because apostasy on the rise ... may be next this historian should cover sects and apostasy and end of islam as his grandfather knew

[@girishdubey724]

Many Pakistani won't know but 1965 war was lost by Pakistan army because of hate for Ahmadiya

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We will cover this topic as well, Insh'Allah!

[@girishdubey724]

@@AlHakamOnline Gen Akhtar Malik who was Ahmadiya muslim led the successful mission against India in Jammu in 1965 and Pak was in winning position but as the credit would had gone to an Ahmadiya muslim which many Muslim would had not liked so he was replaced by Gen Yayaha Khan and this delayed Pak armies operation by 24 hrs which helped Indian army to regather themselves and hence they pushed back Pakistan army. Pakistan lost a winning battle just because of their religious bigotry

[@HarisKhan-qp4vh]

But mirza was very much loyal of Britishers as is written by dard (qadiani writer).

[@AlHakamOnline]

We will do episodes on the conspiracies that Ahmadi Muslims were British agents etc. The truth and historical facts will be shown.

[@pleasewelcome]

@hariskhan .. Abhi tak to AP khud hi agent Sabit ho rahe hen. Jane me ya anjane me.

[@alecbhatti8840]

Maybe or N0T @ my end: 66 age...at rock of ages! As 2 how great thou "art"🎭

[@asadasadaz]

Really come out with some weird conclusions

[@AlHakamOnline]

How so?

[@shanu3588]

Well u guys are getting ur ancestors karmas...

[@rehanjaved9978]

you are only talking about persons which have been died and cant testify you statements...... so plz provide something real

[@AlHakamOnline]

This is history, it's been recorded by sources that have no affiliation to Ahmadiyya.

[@ravindramorey5433]

What a paradox. Jinha made Pakistan homeland for indian muslims and wanted it to be secular? Must really suffering from bi polar disorder apart from tuberculosis.

[@ChefbyMistake]

Why Ahmadi women hide in Burqas ?

[@gondaljutt7059]

why your women walking without cloths?

[@ChefbyMistake]

@@gondaljutt7059 It’s their right why you want to control someone else ?

[@finity9316]

@@ChefbyMistakeit is their right if they want to “hide”

[@ChefbyMistake]

@@finity9316 Yes I agree but I never seen them preaching Islam ☪️

[@finity9316]

@@ChefbyMistake because you don’t see something it doesn’t mean it’s not happening

[@user-ce4px6lk9c]

Totally wrong lie Mirza ghulam completely supposed British Raj even u can fine it in his Owen books...

[@ShahSahib360]

Great discussion 👍 Plz keep bringing the more topics from history like this one 🙏 Muslim youth needs to know ....

[@ravindramorey5433]

That is known as karma. Not a single Ahmadiyya Muslim leader went to jail in freedom struggle against british for independence but conspired with British and jinha for pakistan. And then Pakistan kicked their ass by labelling them non Muslim. This is called Karma.

[@pleasewelcome]

Aj tak kitni taklifen di hen ap ne. Kuchh to Khuda ka khauf kar lo.

[@ravindramorey5433]

Taklife kisi ne bhi nahi di hai, Ahmadiyon ko jo taklif baki pakistani ne di hai ise karma kahte hai. Waise india mein Bhendibazar Mumbai mein, shia, sunni, ahmadi, bohri masjide Bilkul agal bagal mein hai lekin kabhi bhi koi masla nahi hota par Islam ke naam pe bane Pakistan mein ahmadi ko by Constitution non Muslim karar diyaa jaata hai.

[@saurabhdang7307]

Law of karma .

[@usamaali2146]

"Ahmadi Muslims" ???? Ahmadis are NOT MUSLIMS.

[@nourinjahan8279]

First read the basic fundamentals of Islam.

[@asadasadaz]

Total , utter rubbish

[@angrycustomers]

No such thing as Ahmedy Muslim. We follow prophet Mohammed's Sunnah and Quran.

[@SY-vo7bv]

@06:05 you said Maududi opposed Pakistan, but do you really know what was Maududi's view about a "Muslim state" ?? Before doing character assassination and Raising your finger on someone's thought Without getting to know the ideology behind it, is pure Ignorance,

[@ABT-ns1w]

The point is Maududi and co all called Ahmadis enemies of the state of Pakistan later. Even though Maududi was against Pakistan himself!

[@SY-vo7bv]

@@ABT-ns1w so it means you guys are giving your biased opinion about Maududi and not talking rationality here just because he didn't agree with you

[@ABT-ns1w]

Lol where's the bias. It's literally talking about facts.

[@SY-vo7bv]

@@ABT-ns1w yes, your piece of facts😂

[@SY-vo7bv]

@@ABT-ns1w the question here is, why he was against Pakistan movement, its not about whether he was agains Ahmadis or not.But unfortunately you guys don't know the background of his being against the movement.

[@abuahmedazam3922]

Ahmadia community is Ahmadia not Muslim, same as Ismaili community not Muslim, bbahai or bora community nt Muslim community. Even Mr. Mohammed Ali Jinnah was from a sect what was not Muslim main streem.

[@sindarta3196]

What a non sense. Read what Mirza Mahmood said. He was dreaming of "Akhand Bharat" and going back to Qadian. Ignorance is a blessing!

[@AhmadiGh]

As a human being, after watching this the least you could have done is keep quiet and hope for Allahs blessing. But you don’t care right? Anything for Terrorism is what you want.Sad.

[@sindarta3196]

@AhmadiGh Terrorism is what Qadianis do to ex ahmedis. Read and talk to the daughter of Ahmad Yusuf, who was mercilessly killed in Rabwah, now Chenab Nagar. See how ex ahmedis are treated by this so called"love for all cult" Prove me wrong before launching your verbiosity. I challenge you to ptove me wrong in claiming that Mirza Mahmood wanted Akhand Bharat to prove Mirza Qadiani was " اریوں کا بادشاہ " Be a man! میدان میں نکلنا کسی مخنث کا کام نہین اربعین رخ جلد17 writing of Mirza Qadiani the Punjabi prophet of Ahmadiyya صفحہ 400

[@sindarta3196]

@AhmadiGh why did you delete my comment, why are you being a coward? Go ahead and prove me wrong in that Akhand Bharat is not what your KMII said? میدان میں نکلنا کسی مخنث کا کام نہین اربعین رخ جلد17 صفحہ 400

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[@sindarta3196]

@AhmadiGh No one can stop you from living in a fool's paradise! Happy Chanda Giving....

[@thetruth3435]

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