Testing the CHEAPEST Alcohol Stove on AMAZON!

Let's keep this amazon train rolling by testing the cheapest ALCOHOL stove on Amazon this week. This one...well let's just say it didn't go so well
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[@Kevskamping]

Hi Ernie I’ve got this stove , did not work for me I removed the inside and replaced with carbon felt Now I have a nice little spill proof burner Keep them alcohol stove reviews coming

[@thomasmusso1147]

Good option.

[@neolithicnobody8184]

I had someone give me one of these a few months ago. After playing with it for a bit, I inserted some felt into it and it improved quite a bit. I can boil 2 cups of water in about 4-5 minutes with it now. Also, your stand is assembled inside out. The tabs go on the inside and you'll have to curl it into a Heart Shape to get the 2nd tab to insert. The stand works great with my Trangia knock-off. Depending on the wind, sometimes I flip the stand over and get better results.

[@stuartmiller8053]

bugger, just ordered one to play with. why not do a video on modifying it to see if you can make it work better just for the fun of it? cheers stu

[@stevenpalmer8058]

I assembled the pot stand different on the one I bought, but had the same awful result as you. I felt that the jet holes were far too big, mine never properly bloomed.....threw it in the bin!

[@nicks.youtube]

I got one off ali. The stand is put together wrong. Stove kind of sucks, but I put a wrap of carbon felt on the inside of the down tube and tied it on with a little wire. That helped it actually bloom properly. Not bad in case of emergency, or to just play with now and then. Stop throwing stoves away! Send them to me or save to experiment with lol

[@zoladkow]

I got the smallest version of it (from Ali), and the windscreen i got was 3 part. it's fine (boil in about 10min) but i also think the jet holes are in wierd location, i don't see how they make any difference 😅 Also, you assembled the wind screen wrong 😁 it should be round when done right, don't worry about bending. and yes, it's easier with three pieces 🙃

[@ciliciaann3504]

I have one of these and I need to tell you the tabs of the pot stand/windscreen goes on the inside. 😎👍

[@lethalmizzle]

I had a similar windscreen. If you fold over most of the upper prongs and fold them back again they snap off. The airflow becomes way better.

[@a.ramosakadrumgrl6677]

I have only bought one alcohol stove, a trangia. Because of their reliability.

[@terrym1065]

Why so many people want to re-invent the wheel? The original Trangia is still the best one out there IMO and it's not made in China from slave labor.

[@galootlovestools]

The Fancy Feast stove is still the reigning champ for cost vs performance.

[@philipreasons3298]

The stove may be a dismal failure, but the music Ernie chooses is always awesome. Most expensive alcohol stove I have seen online Is the fishbone stove from Scandinavia outdoor.

[@billb5732]

Are you sure that you assembled the windscreen correctly? It appears to me that it would work better if the windscreen was circular -- not spring-fit to the stove.

[@kenimus]

Fancy feast stove cost nothing ❤

[@shawnr6117]

You should test it with a better pot stand and see if it helps, do a short with the results

[@markperry222]

Just thinking out of the box. If you clip the dovetails the other way around, so that they interlock on the inside, you might get a full circle, which would increase airflow.

[@IAMGWH1]

I bought one & came with a titanium pot stand/ windscreen & I didn’t really like the burner but use the stand/ windscreen for other diy alky & solid fuel with great results ( when you assemble it correctly “round with dovetails going in” like everyone here suggest! Sometimes you “are wrong” but I subscribed & watch all of your videos & learn sometimes lol 😢😂

[@raytribble8075]

This does seem like a poor design. I to have more alcohol stoves than one should be allowed… thank you for this review. I had not seen this stove before.

[@bcamping1]

Put the stand upside down and use an heat exchanger pot. I have similar stand from tomshoo for trangia. Works well with alocs cw-k07.

[@Hector-vx5yc]

Hi Ernie! I’m fairly new to your channel, Steve from firebox stove sent me your way, I came across a trangia modification where steel wool and fire resistant cotton/ possibly, carbon fiber felt was used, was wondering your opinion / thoughts about alcohol stove modifications. It was on the, BikeNCamp, channel. Can you help me out with this? I really need a pros opinion. Thank you so much for sharing. Really enjoying your channel and content. 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸❤️❤️❤️

[@Sokol10]

When put inside the Trangia (or any alcohol stove) some wick material, e.g. carbon felt, ceramic wool, even steel wool - this material don't burn; and a mesh of steel above, you are: - The heat of the steel wire improve the the alcohol vaporization a bit improving the bloom (start) time and make the stove more eficiente, fuel last longer. BTW- Trangia already have a wick internally, a tube made off Line cloth around the inner wall. Can see this wick in exploded stove view in Trangia page. - The flame became more blue, what suggest better air fuel mixture. - If used Carbon felt, Ceramic wool, fiberglass wool... this material absorb the alcohol will minimize spread alcohol and fire if the stove tips over. Watch this Chinese video - has English subtitles; from YT channel Lifestyle CC Land, is one of the best about this modification. 【原創藍火設計】為何眾多手作職人追求終極藍火? 好處這麼多!! Trangia藍火風暴值得你瞭解!! Or this Japanese video comparing a modified with an unmodified Trangia. DIY Fuel Efficiency Modification for Trangia Spirit Burner B25

[@elliotrice3748]

Have tried the wind shield the other way up??

[@dustinthomson110]

My exact thoughts as well.

[@robertfreeman6082]

Beat me to it - yes I thought that having the larger vents at the top would give more air to the top of the burner. However others have said it’s constructed wrong anyway and needs reassembly so it’s a circle and that works better. So in true Hiram style let’s see tests with it upside down as noted and then fitted correctly (both ways up)

[@billshuey7422]

Yep, I bought this to put in my day pack. I lit it at home to check it. Well, it is junk. I think the jet holes are to large and poorly located. I live in Thailand and Aliexpress price here is just over $3. YES I WASTED $3😮

[@taber247]

Hi, Hopefully you will try it again allowing the burner to breath. Then its blameworthy if it proves usless. I bought 2 similar but one a smaller diameter. Not tryed them yet. Mine did not come with Windshield/potstands. Thank you for sharing.

[@kruzininla]

I’m not a big fan of alcohol stoves, I have a couple trangia stoves that are “OK”. Cheap products usually produce cheap products. I don’t hike nor am I in survival mode. There’s better stoves out there.

[@DanDanalog]

Nah that’s stand (if it fits that diameter burner) would definitely work better constructed circular… What I did learn is that this oval setup works perfectly with a kidney based canteen cup🏆 Love the work, thank you 🙏🏼 🤜🏼🤛🏼

[@thomasmusso1147]

👎👎👎 Until shown otherwise, I'm giving this one a definite thumbs down. Supported by other comments and under correction, I concur that you appear to have got the windscreen assembly wrong .. inside-out! The Burner .. possibly not the best? I have made plenty of my own .. some that look much like that one you demonstrated. Yes, I added Ceramic / Glass Wool or Carbon Cloth to the construction (I have done so with all of my home-grown burners) and they work just fine. You are 100% correct in that Alcohol Burners need sufficient Oxygen to function properly .. although the same would refer to anything that generates a flame. Ernie, you have a healthy subscriber base with many thereof who take your word as gospel. In my opinion, posts as this possibly do a disservice to the supplier .. and in no way enhance your reputation for fair, unbiased assessment. I am more than prepared to stand corrected .. but until then ..

[@fredericpaquette5289]

Next do a review of the Fire Maple Polaris Pressure Regulated upright canister stove! I would be awesome to see how it compares to a Soto Windmaster or MSR PR Deluxe 👍🏻

[@chado_outdoors]

😂😂 these are $1 at Daiso in Tokyo. They're just emergency stoves at best.

[@pgpagaia]

You didn't assemble the stand right. The connected tab should go In the inside of the other plate forming a circle. This will probably give enough oxygen. I have a similar stand but with three plates wich I use with a conventional burner (Trangia) and it is the best stand design I know for an alcohol burner. Works flawlessly ans weighs nothing.

[@MikeClavetteSr]

the pot stand is assembled incorrectly ....remove one side and scroll it in the opposite direction so it flexes in a circle rather than lay flat it will get more oxygen ...... just an observation

[@akbychoice]

He did you miss the stand detail, it even shows it in the link you provided to Amazon.

[@jamesharvey44]

Was it the pot stand that was the problem? I have the same burner and used a stand that had plenty of air with the proper 1.25" gap and got a rolling boil at 7min 40 seconds using about half the fuel.

[@jbkcamping]

I love the content.. I would just like to see some of the reviews done in real backpack camping situations.. I do a lot of overnight hiking and would like to know if the systems are practical in that application in the desert

[@JohnH-rd3xy]

Anyone remember penny stoves? Ernie, drop a quarter onto the center hole and try it again. That stand, I think you got wrong. Try one of those Redcamp stands.

[@kennethwilson8633]

Could you try it again with the stand fixed like everyone else says to do??? Love your videos thanks.

[@markbailey15]

Not how you assemble the stand bud. The dovetails fit on the inside to form a complete circle

[@thomasmusso1147]

👍👍👍 He got it wrong this time. I'm surprised that more did not pick up on this .. too busy clapping 🐧, I suppose ..

[@mikevandebunt811]

Exactly. The photo in the Amazon listing shows the wind shield set up as a circle. That makes the shield better, but doesn't change the stove design.

[@jhosk]

Thanks, this explains a pot stand I have had for a couple of years and had never used, it came assembled but something always seemed wrong.

[@stevelucier8346]

Wow so badly! I'd be looking to modify starting with picking up two stones to place between the guard and can to increase air flow. If the can would hold up when hot! lol lol Ya it's that bad. It might make a better candle holder though. Or cut out the inners and pack it with fire starter materials.

[@MichaelR58]

Good review, thanks for sharing YAH bless !

[@MMuraseofSandvich]

Seems like an aluminum drink can stove would outperform this and still cost way less. In fact, the materials for this shouldn't cost more than a buck or two.

[@thomasmusso1147]

👍 I only have two 'bought' alcohol stoves. My first, a 'Whitebox' and the other, a Trangia from the Trangia 'Mini' Set. The rest are 'home-grown' from throwaway materials. I do not drink sugar'd soft drinks / 'soda' .. from cans or other. However, cans .. there are more than plenty empties available down at my local park on a Monday morning.

[@fuffydingo]

Ernie, I have this stove with the stand. Yes, it is a big piece of crap, yes I spilled alcohol with it a few times. However, the stove was a freebie, because I was interested in the stand only. The way you put the stand together is wrong. Put them claps together the other way so that it makes the complete circular ring. It's not a bad stand but it does seem to collapse under its own heat when using a better stove.

[@Sokol10]

Yes, in the way he assemble the windshield block some aeration holes, what is puzzle because at begging of the video he was talking about lack or oxygen for the stove. 🤔

[@fuffydingo]

Yes it was a very frustrating video to watch.

[@tomlovesdiy]

Hey Dr G. It might it work better with a different stand/windscreen? Feel like doing another round?

[@nickprague1481]

Think of the custom dents as character marks. Maybe the wind screen can be used with a better burner. Designers can say what they want but there is no substitute for field testing.

[@ItsMePaulyC]

Thanks for your review, Ernie. Even the flop stoves are cool and interesting to look at! It a great learning experience to try different ones and knowing how they look and if they will perform. Thanks for sharing and looking forward to the next one!

[@denisoleary5302]

Check out the Polymath stoe from the UK!

[@goblinslayer77]

Why would there be slots in the pot stand for the bottom 😅

[@KrizAkoni]

Wow, that’s an epic fail. 😂

[@ruzzellp]

Did you try the stove with the wind shield upside down?

[@goblinslayer77]

😅 I think you have the pot stand upside down

[@mikesmith1550]

Results "as is" speak for themselves. I think that I'd change pot stands and test again. Nothing to loose? As always, a good video.

[@patriot1902]

Ya 10 bucks on Amazon.

[@AlexanderLi2206]

I have bought the same one from Ali. The same results.((

[@jhosk]

I may buy one just to tweak it

[@jbates1463]

Thanks for sharing!

[@strongbear9304]

AWWW COME ON MAN! …..(sorry, forgot what I was going to say) Oh yeah- Come on Ernie, don’t throw that in the trash can! It goes into the BLUE Recycle can! We all have to do our part to conserve resources. Maybe it can be melted down and made into something helpful because as a stove-IT is reminiscent of a Pneumohemothorax- commonly referred to as a “Sucking Chest Wound” for the same reason-they both “Suck”!

[@bobkelly2447]

I think the major problem with this stove is the jet holes are way too big. They look like their 1/16" in diameter holes and should be 1/64" or 1/32" I was impressed at how quickly the fuel in the center was sucked up into the outside ring so they must have put something in the stove to absorb the fuel. the pot holder was obviously an after thought and you would need a rock or something on each side of the stove to allow it to breathe better.... but....with the holes so big the stove will not burn right.... no pressure will be generated no matter how hot it gets.... my penny stove works far better ! this stove may well be made so it can run off gasoline... that would be an interesting test ! but i doubt it.... alcohol is far more volatile than gasoline and even that did not develop any pressure.... the only cure I can come up with for that stove is plug all the holes and re drill new holes with a tiny drill.... not one or 2 sizes smaller but a real tiny drill and then test it... it probably would not heat very good so you'd need to drill the holes out a little bigger.... the thing is, it may not supposed to generate pressure at all... but without it you'll get really poor boil times ! I've seen wick stoves do better on your videos ...so yah that stove is junk ! ..... thanks for the review !

[@Sokol10]

This, in some Japanese videos they put aluminun take over the holes and make small ones, or just cover each even one.

[@youtube7076]

whell done..!

[@zachariahlee3393]

I agree..not for boiling water..but what if you just wanted to warm up Slowly a can of ..I don't know! .. spaghettiOs without burning. Is it a Pro or Con??

[@davidklug6980]

By the time that thing would heat up spaghettios, one would be better off eating them cold. If it can't get water hot, anything with mass would take forever to heat on this.

[@Sokol10]

3:24 - You are mounting the windshield "wrong", if assemble in circle will allow more air reach the flame. This stove is somewhat popular - due their low cost; with "alcohol stoves addicts" from Japan, so they made some modifications trying improve. - Put steel wool inside - can use carbon felt. - Put aluminum tape over the holes and make small ones. -Or tape the internal jet holes and make new outside, near the upper part. In some tests the stove literally "explode" when lit.

[@Mega__0]

The windscreen is sold separately as well, for example as 3 pieces. That configuration combined with a puck-style burner works a bit better due to the better airflow though it does require a larger pot.

[@nvalley]

I remember the original vargo alcohol stove. At least this one isn't 40 bucks!

[@oxxnarrdflame8865]

I have a lot of stove, like you purchased and made, and have my fair share of lemons. 🍋 Like sports teams, sometimes they make the playoffs other times the basement, but ether way you enjoy the game 😊

[@cardiacbob]

I have an alcohol stove addiction also, but that one would go in the trash can. I might try it in another stand first though.

[@danieljones2183]

Thanks for saving me from tossing 5 bucks in the trash

[@scottjohndonlan]

Nice spaghetti western music!

[@philipnelson4692]

Ernie, you are the best! I am having trouble finding goshawk alcohol stoves, which you sold me om. .Thamks.

[@jamesharvey44]

Buy them directly from the company, I don't think anyone resells them, great burners but you will have to wait on the shipping.

[@bathcolin]

Thanks for the headsup Ernie. Lovin' your work.