Palladium recovery from 1.7kg ceramic capacitors (MLCCs)

[@levimichael1136]

That was a serious amount of propane burned during this video. Awesome video and thank you for showing each step of the process you used.

[@OwlTech333]

Actually is quite economical

[@levimichael1136]

@@OwlTech333 Economic or not, that was an hour long video, cut and condensed. Those torches were blowin the whole time. All I was saying was that the gas was flowin the entire video.

[@mt-wl6oh]

How to Identify Capacitors Containing Palladium?

[@KhaliedRady]

شكرا جزيلا استاذنا المبدع... حفظك الرب

[@RadioTexnarTV]

Отличная работа!!!!!!!

[@OwlTech333]

Спасибо!

[@nathenstram6697]

For those who watched this hour long video to not be told the value of these efforts, it's worth about $3000 usd.

[@mareecathie2476]

My eternal question is, & I've asked it many times, in many places, how do you identify resin dipped capacitors that contain palladium? I can identify resin dipped tantalum capacitors, but no one answers how you identify the RD capacitors that contain palladium.

[@redbaronrefining5322]

@@mareecathie2476 no specific way other than knowing your capacitors by look alone. I usually take a sample of say 10 pieces, weigh them, incinerate, crush, and process to get yield, then add a picture with yield data to my cheat sheet at home. That way I can go after specific grades and save time in the long run.

[@mareecathie2476]

@@redbaronrefining5322 Thank you so much for your answer, RB. Sort of sticks a hole in my grand plan :-) I scrap a lot of circuit boards & just sell the chips as I'm not set up to refine. I was hoping I could do the same with them. Thank you, again.

[@redbaronrefining5322]

@@mareecathie2476 I do toll refines if you ever want to save some samples, and get yields :)

[@william1863]

My God that's a lot of work and to work with those acids ? Not me. Lol

[@احمدالظاهر-ه5ب]

مرحبا اخي كم المده التي احتاجها البلاديوم الترسيب بكربونات الصوديوم مع الغليان عمل رائع تستحق التقدير والاحترام

[@OwlTech333]

15min

[@alquimiavsmetalica5250]

11:17 in the pan where you stir the nitric acid solution you must place a base 1 cm of silicon oxide and pay it with aluminous and activator the rest to cover you will use the same type of silicate that is used for pavement painting is cover the reflective silicate is nitro pearls if silicon and pure silicate this will affirm the heat and distribute it amogenous throughout the pilex base

[@robbie8142]

In English please. 🤣🤗🤗

[@jazzdein1]

Wish I was as smart as you 😒

[@alquimiavsmetalica5250]

@@jazzdein1 alguna vez os preocupéis en averiguar si es mi idioma o mandé chat traducido tu comentario es basura y si hay algo ilógico en el tratamiento lo digo yo trabajé en I+D Técnico químico de recuperación de metales preciosos . Primero esas técnicas pierden más de 30g de oro al precio variable de 50€ por gramo la recuperación por fuego es basura y hay un pérdida de 500.000€ en oro mensual yo me dedicaba a procesar los desechos para decir de cuánto dinero total perdían en metales preciosos

[@alquimiavsmetalica5250]

@@jazzdein1 it's funny that they answer yes to translate

[@jazzdein1]

@@alquimiavsmetalica5250 I dont follow, the guy who said "in English please!" Or something that went over my head?

[@sheilaboothroyd4293]

Why do you need to put silver in? Banging tune.

[@OwlTech333]

This particular capacitors contain pd and ag adding more ag lowers pd's melting point even further

[@hasantokgoz3069]

Sağol kardeşim çok çok çok teşeķürlér ediyorum size birşey sormak istiyorum bu palladyumu pilastikleri erintikten sonra ateşte bunun tozunu ayırdan sonra nittrik asitdeni direk potada eritsek olmazmı sağol canım kardeşim kolay gelsin sana teşekürler

[@serkandusmus]

Plastik derken

[@gavincurtis]

Your knowledge will be invaluable in a few years from now the way the world is going...

[@muhammadimrankhan9154]

Knowledge got no expiry bro its forever 💯

[@davidbarron107]

another excellent job my friend.keep them coming

[@OwlTech333]

Thank you buddy!

[@alquimiavsmetalica5250]

39:11 the base does not scratch piles jewelry trick when it is at room temperature we will add isopropyl alcohol this will detach the metal from the glass creating a mass to which we will add a powder We will add a similar bolomen of liquid borax, this amalgam will prevent metal from being lost during the fusion and I recommend using a granite crucible with Tesla fusion or induction fusion.

[@merdaslian9606]

Thank you for adding Persian subtitles to the movies

[@jessevance8455]

Wow what a process respect to the creator for a great video. Also I like your comments! Some of them had me cracking up!

[@fredbach6039]

I'd like to know what happened to the silver. And what the reactions were at each stage. Thx.

[@OwlTech333]

The silver chloride was melted with NaOH to silver metal

[@jorgelapip4726]

Quero aprender a estrair opaladio eoutros mettais

[@davidbarron107]

wow this is absolutely fantastic..I'd love to be able to do this.fair play to you.amazing stuff

[@ФахитРыжков]

Автору респект!!! Хороший выход!!! За труды лайк!!!!!

[@OwlTech333]

Спасибо!

[@احمدالظاهر-ع3ظ]

مرحبا هل يوجد كاشف الذهب من اكوريجا غير كلوريد القصدير وهل يمكن ترسيب ذهب بنتريت الصوديوم

[@RizwanKhan-bi1ki]

Excellent yield..

[@tinsoffish1810]

After boiling in citric acid to remove excess borax🤔...like a great book,i learn somthing i missed every viewing...thank you😊

[@recuptou6433]

Nice job ! How many silver at the end of the process ?

[@carlosharanki7872]

Buen día desde Venezuela...sabes como procesar Pd en estado natural...en piedra?...saludos

[@OwlTech333]

hola nunca lo probé

[@NRF.channel]

Sir, please make a tutorial on how to extract copper and palladium from wastewater that is given iron.

[@ok-ahsungestreift3031]

What happens with the lead oxide vapor? I would imagine that it will affect health very negative after some time of exposure. How can u make sure to not be slowly poisoned by the lead fumes. Thank you. I would appreciate an answer! Kind regards🖐️

[@OwlTech333]

Simple: Wear a mask. Take a shower when finished and don't forget to wash your clothes.

[@alfredweaver5390]

I would suggest making a vent hood with a high cfm volume for drawing away the fumes into some sort of exterior filter box outside the building you’re doing this in. PPE, such as painters respirator, rubber smock, full face shield and nitrile gloves are a must in any caustic process.

[@dizzious]

How much borax and sodium hydroxide NAOH did you use?

[@OwlTech333]

Didn't measure, around 200-300g NaOH and 100g Borax

[@jaimejuarez2384]

Qué grado de pureza tiene?...

[@OwlTech333]

58:14

[@jaimejuarez2384]

Gracias..

[@DonnyHooterHoot]

Happy you got rid of the open trash fire to smelt!

[@ahmadsafi9219]

You are king of the working

[@OwlTech333]

Thank you!

[@goranaxelsson1409]

To remove the final led from the palladium, you should add some sulfuric acid after you denox the solution and look for precipitation of lead sulfate. Add more sulfuric acid until there is no more precipitate. That should solve the lead problem for you. The pink crystals in the filter looked like lead chloride to me, the color was probably from something else included in the white needle formed crystals.

[@OwlTech333]

Hi Göran! I don't think there's any lead left in the button or at least there shouldn't be since I took three 3 steps to eliminate it before precipitating the palladium: 1st step was the cupellation itself, 2nd step was chlorination (any lead should have precipitated with the silver as the corresponding chlorides from the chilled solution) and the 3rd step was the de-NOxing with sulphamic acid which converts the free nitric acid to sulphuric in situ thus precipitating any lead that made it this far as lead sulphate. With the above said I'm more inclined to think that the XRF gun needs calibration... not sure As for the pink crystals I think it's Vauquelin's Salt ([Pd(NH3)4PdCl4] Lou and freechemist mentioned it on GRF goldrefiningforum.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=9023#p86042) but again not sure...

[@goranaxelsson1409]

@@OwlTech333 Your final XRF reading shows 5.8% Pb. It's a bit much just to come from a badly calibrated XRF. As you say, a chilled chloride solution should precipitate most of the lead and the rest could easily be taken care of by the conversion of sulfamic acid turning into sulfuric acid. But lead chloride takes a while to precipitate, that's why it can form quite long and thin crystals. I suspect that you got so much lead nitrate that the denoxing of nitric acid didn't produce enough sulfuric acid to remove all the lead in that step. But that's just a theory of mine. Putting a few drops of sulfuric into a solution is a cheap and instant way to verify if you have lead in solution or not. And for the few times you got lead it alerts you for a problem that might cost you a lot later on. But if you don't think you have any lead in your final button then you can just disregard all that I wrote. :-) I've never seen Vauquelin's salt as crystals, only read about it in articles and on GRF. I don't know if it forms thin crystals just as lead chloride does. If you still have that filter paper a quick XRF should tell you if it is lead or palladium. Thanks for sharing that video. I have half a kilo of MLCC:s to process in the summer. But I'll probably go the wet chemistry way after incineration. It's worked well for me before.

[@OwlTech333]

@@goranaxelsson1409 Thanks! I'll give it a go next time!

[@goranaxelsson1409]

@@OwlTech333 I'll wait for the next video. :-)

[@michahalczuk9071]

That's 3900$ worth of palladium for todays prices. Well done :)

[@hafezjavidy7754]

47 grams of pd were obtained from 1.7kg of mlccs?

[@OwlTech333]

47g was the weight of the button which was 91% Pd therefore 47x0.91=42.77g Pd from 1.7kg MLCCs

[@Avci__]

Did you add sulfamic? Wow, what minute?

[@OwlTech333]

@12:12

[@Avci__]

@@OwlTech333 Thanks

[@RaymondRChammas]

Great video....still watching actually. Right now you're dissolving the Ag-PD alloy in HNO3.

[@OwlTech333]

Thank you!

[@kevinsteve9453]

Fabulous, will make me work a little more gathering caps. Ty

[@OwlTech333]

Good luck!

[@pauldavidhaynes8243]

Are them the ceramic tiles at power sub stations, that divide the metal disc things. Sorry my electrical engineering knowledge is a little lacking.

[@sheilaboothroyd4293]

I might of missed it but how much is it worth.??

[@OwlTech333]

43.4g Pd x $56.3(today's spot price) = $2445

[@jirisiska1784]

Hello, if I burn the PCB boards withhout separation all the parts on it, is possible use the cupellation process? and if yes can I get all the precious metals like Au, Ag, Pt, Pd, Ta, and others? thank you for your answer

[@OwlTech333]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/iqXZXqSCrbmmb5I

[@jirisiska1784]

@@OwlTech333 thank you

[@ahmadsafi9219]

Is it possible to specify the names and quantities of the materials used?

[@dizzious]

He did in the video.

[@snehasischakraborty7748]

Hi, can i use sodium formate instead of using formic acid and sodium carbonate separately??

[@OwlTech333]

Yes, even better

[@bahaasaed7602]

ممكن اعرف لماذه تستخدم حمض الكبرتيك

[@joserobertobrito1361]

Quero saber como decanta a pratina o ródio , opaládio eu vi como faze . E quais os metais devo decanta primeiro

[@esamgold5524]

Hi my friend. Can you use natric aside directly after burn and granid. Thanks

[@OwlTech333]

I suppose so, yes

[@franzliszt3195]

So I have a bunch of ceramic capacitors. I was going to throw them away! But what do I do with them? I am much to frightened to do this process.

[@tomaszchmielewski8323]

Wouldnt it be more easier to pour the calcined ground ash into aqua reqia then wash it few times and boil off the water or add some chemicals to precipitate palladium ?

[@OwlTech333]

I find this way easier

[@RudolphWhite-cl4qy]

ARE THEY BUYING BACK CERAMIC CAPITATORS CONTAINING PALLADIUM?..HOW MUCH DO YOU NEED TO SELL BACK?..

[@tylerbeyer4316]

How much silver did you add?

[@OwlTech333]

190g silver contacts x 0.835 or that's about 160g pure silver

[@sixroldan6742]

Wait, I thought it was only the blue and yellow capacitors that had palladium in them....?

[@OwlTech333]

Not at all, there are many others containing Ag, Pd and/or Pt

[@matthewhatch9141]

@@OwlTech333 is platinum in all ceramic capacitors.

[@msmail8133]

Amazing How long it took to processing for all ? Tnx

[@OwlTech333]

A day's work in total

[@earlwright9715]

About $3500 for a days work?

[@johntherrian5365]

You use Alumina crucibles I assume owl?

[@OwlTech333]

yes

[@johntherrian5365]

@@OwlTech333 I just wanted to make sure. I appreciate it Buddy.

[@OwlTech333]

@@johntherrian5365 no problem mate

[@salemcotte]

Where are these particular capacitors found? Great Video!

[@OwlTech333]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJLWkpivZquNoLM

[@Alondro77]

Find yourself a bunch of old circuit boards. Higher end stuff from the 90's and earlier had lots of them.

[@atcn1956]

Sensacional.Parabéns❤

[@OwlTech333]

Thank you!

[@atcn1956]

@@OwlTech333 posso usar o bicarbonato de sódio no lugar do carbonato de sódio?

[@OwlTech333]

Yes

[@MojtabaFatahi-l3s]

Hello and thank you, I would like to add to my experience with your experience, with explanations and small practical tips, thank you❤

[@2020corp]

What was the pink looking residue from the nitric hcl filtration? Any idea

[@OwlTech333]

Lead chloride someone suggested... I thought it was Vauquelin's salt...

[@alexhsabro2028]

Огромная работа. Благодарочка.

[@OwlTech333]

Спасибо!

[@nesrtalbah129]

Did all colors have Pd?

[@OwlTech333]

Not all of them

[@ثائرالصادق]

Peace be upon you.. what is the price of a kilo of ceramic capacitors that contain palladium in dollars..with my great appreciation and respect

[@OwlTech333]

these are about $500/kg

[@ثائرالصادق]

@@OwlTech333 You have a prolonged appreciation and respect

[@huequanganglam1734]

thís ís a rare video , good job .good teacher

[@OwlTech333]

Thank you! 😃

[@alfredweaver5390]

How do you separate the palladium from silver in the ingot?

[@amirmohamad3071]

Hello, can you help me solve the problem I encountered in the recovery?

[@OwlTech333]

I can try

[@amirmohamad3071]

Please send me your telegram or WhatsApp number so that I can raise my problem and send you a photo of the problems in gold recovery in advance.

[@justinreel5546]

Please tell me you wore a mask while grinding those

[@alibozkurt8491]

Hello what are the chemicals used in order of use Hello what are the chemicals used in order of use information verirsen

[@Avci__]

How much total net palladium of capacitor 1.7kg

[@quintonharvey1501]

Are they specific to color or part number

[@OwlTech333]

size and colour

[@jamisontaylor878]

Thank you excellent video

[@OwlTech333]

Thanks for watching

[@cahcengoh09897]

how many add silver

[@OwlTech333]

10% of the added lead

[@Avci__]

How many grams of palladium is extracted from one kilogram of thickeners?

[@corysamoila]

I came for the metal but I BE HERE FOR THE RAVE!!!!

[@SURFEAMORETERNO]

It was quite laborious but it paid off. You pay for the drinks my master.

[@shahzaibali799]

Sir capacitor not blast when heat treatment

[@suryanayana7301]

Why..not to adding caco3 it's inexpencive than na2co3(sodium carbonate)

[@OwlTech333]

good idea!

[@DAWERZB3]

soy aficionado que instrumentos nesecito para realizar todo el proceso de separacion del paladio ?

[@shannonlehmann2057]

bro where can i download that BANGER of a song?

[@OwlTech333]

Which one?

[@OwlTech333]

m.soundcloud.com/owl-tech

[@shannonlehmann2057]

@@OwlTech333 THANK YOU BRO! Something Big is absolutely AMAZING

[@OwlTech333]

Thank you

[@karolinibatista3812]

this powder before going to smelter him and Zinc?

[@alfredweaver5390]

How can you tell by the color of different mllc’s which are gold, silver, palladium etc?

[@OwlTech333]

It's not just the colour

[@alfredweaver5390]

My question is, how can you tell which ones are silver, gold,platinum or palladium? I have a big jug of a variety of sizes out of old tv’s , flatscreen tv’s and computers and old stereos.

[@alfredweaver5390]

@@OwlTech333 so what you’re saying is that it doesn’t matter what color MLLC or capacitor it’s all the same? How can that be when there’s different metals in each type? I’m confused.

[@OwlTech333]

@@alfredweaver5390 I haven’t said that

[@OwlTech333]

@@alfredweaver5390 it’s not that simple it takes A LOT of practice and observation

[@delljopshorseracingtips4693]

Who would you sell it to

[@OwlTech333]

Already sold

[@sejaoseumelhorsempre2552]

Toda essa trabalhera,gás e ácidos pra essa mixaria??não vale a pena né!

[@benm6480]

Do you recover your own capacitors or buy them ? If your buy them I have probably 4 kilos of capacitors right now and probably have about 10 in the next month and the bored I have with the most capacitors sell at low grade so

[@rightvideos5057]

Shell i use HF+ Nitric to dissolve the dore directly without cupulation

[@OwlTech333]

Don't!

[@sity1977]

откуда там цирконий ? .А горелка пропан :?

[@OwlTech333]

О2-пропан, цирконий из тигля наверно

[@dreamcommunications8993]

Good information, thanks 😊🙏

[@Женя-ж4к3р]

Отличное видео. А Вы пробовали данный метод для переработки автомобильных катализаторов? Или может знаете как лучше переработать ? Интересует как извлечь родий. Будет интересно увидеть видео.

[@OwlTech333]

пока нет, но я планирую это сделать

[@Женя-ж4к3р]

@@OwlTech333 да и по км где-то потери считают 30г на кг.

[@OwlTech333]

30-32 г только для крупнее (1uОМ и большие)

[@ЖУКДЕРУНОВ]

думаю этот метод будет в Топе для переработки пыли от чёрных микросхем и т.п. вот там вообще будет извлечение супер. да и для катализаторов с родием наверно единственный способ где будет полное извлечение. это чисто мои мысли на основе видео и общения с знающими или практикующими людьми. прогресс у автора на лицо- выходы приближаются к исходным. я печь уже сделал,тигли купил. пыль есть, вот с горелками пока проблема.- потеплеет будем пробовать.

[@OwlTech333]

@@ЖУКДЕРУНОВ интересно будет посмотреть

[@bherarambishnoi1092]

What is lead meta ?

[@OwlTech333]

lead metal Pb

[@armancarmanc5895]

What do you want in 25.35 TE? ​@@OwlTech333

[@xx-sm8mt]

Hello, you people pay for this? How do you gather this huge amounts of materials??

[@OwlTech333]

Toll refine actually

[@xx-sm8mt]

@@OwlTech333 what do you mean with that?

[@OwlTech333]

Someone gave me the material to be refined for a fee

[@xx-sm8mt]

@@OwlTech333 thanks

[@toddmonka275]

What metals are in ceramic "disc" capacitors? I've got over 5 pounds of them, would you process them?

[@OwlTech333]

Silver only IMHO it's not worth the effort

[@geneburlette7307]

I know this reply was from a while back but have you watch mount baker monument metals? You may want to check out how he incinerates with a cone mold the cupels to extracts the base. He may be interested in the 5lb of capacitor you have.

[@iqbbtv7571]

thank you for God video and ask you can use the hidrazen

[@OwlTech333]

Thanks for watching! What do you want to use hydrazine for?

[@iqbbtv7571]

@@OwlTech333 ok ai want use hydrazine to recover palladium in your video

[@OwlTech333]

Ok I think you can use it too

[@kenjett2434]

I got like close to 3 kilo of these resin dipped ceramic capacitors mostly blue and brown ones with a few mixed odd colors. This votes well to a very good yield when I get the materials to process them. One is always hoping anyway been collecting and saving a long time now. I also have over 2 kilo of ic chips saved up that should be good also.

[@OwlTech333]

Sounds promising!

[@Vanadium888]

Димексид не возьмёт?

[@OwlTech333]

дорого

[@luiscosta4973]

Exelente 👍

[@OwlTech333]

Obrigado 👍

[@luiscosta4973]

Gracias,a tu canal, aprendemos,y aves enseñamos,,👍🇺🇾🌍

[@harish7202]

I have PD on carbon how to extract Guide me chemical results show 46% /kg

[@OwlTech333]

Same process could be employed

[@வேங்கைமைந்தன்]

Excellent

[@OwlTech333]

Thanks

[@stevenvelder7534]

I like jamming out to the little instrumentals😂

[@OwlTech333]

lol you are the first one

[@rookierollhunter8652]

Awesome video as usual! How much silver was added and then reclaimed?

[@OwlTech333]

about 200g contact points, which is about 160g Ag

[@lazyman114]

Very cool process. Is it possible to get higher purity or at least remove the lead? I know you can't remove the platinum, but would a second refining be worth the effort?

[@OwlTech333]

I don't think there's any lead left, more to do with the XRF gun calibration IMHO

[@lazyman114]

@@OwlTech333 So is the xrf gun not all that useful to determine precise composition of alloys?

[@OwlTech333]

useful but you can not solely rely on it

[@57-4-w1m]

Приветствую.на 13 минуте розовый осадок это что?

[@OwlTech333]

хлорид свинца, наверно

[@57-4-w1m]

@@OwlTech333 поделитесь ссылкой на тигель пожалуйста.

[@OwlTech333]

keram-tigel.ru/tigli-karborundovyye-sic

[@57-4-w1m]

@@OwlTech333 спасибо

[@charlieb9502]

Took some big chances there, adding the silver contacts from relays that could have contained selenium could have really cause some problems. Also doing pallium group metals is dangerous. As you can get pantinosis and that will be fatal.

[@corysamoila]

Please go on. I'm thinking about doing this. What should I look out for?

[@corysamoila]

So dont melt metals together, check. Do not get fiberglass in molten, check Always have ventilation, check A mask? Clothing? Stay away from? Anything helps thx

[@enjoybhajan8476]

How to eliminate excess nitric acid any one please help me? I added urea to neutralise the solution and after adding SMB but I didn't get any gold dust

[@OwlTech333]

Sulphamic acid

[@franchi8601]

To eliminate excessive nitric acid, do I heat the aqua regia before or after adding the suphamic acid? Or do I add suphamic acid at outside temparture? And how do I know when to stop adding suphamic acid? Thanks if you reply.

[@OwlTech333]

@@franchi8601 I do it after dissolution, I keep adding sulphamic acid until solution stops fizzing then I dilute with water or ice leave it to cool and then filter

[@MojtabaFatahi-l3s]

Dear teacher, I hope your heart is happy and your face is smiling. I was asking you to make a video about the recycling of palladium using the Dimethyglio Oxime method with Farsi subtitles. Thank you.❤❤❤❤

[@jordydrop]

what's the name of this song?

[@OwlTech333]

Which one?

[@jordydrop]

@@OwlTech333 the first one. it has a russian industrial sound to it.

[@OwlTech333]

@@jordydrop soundcloud.com/owl-tech/tracks track is called Something Big

[@kevinauld6809]

Jun 25 just ran across this have not seen any thing from you in it seems like a year!

[@OwlTech333]

6 months to be exact, been busy with side works. I've prepared a lot of videos though

[@gulammohammedansari1009]

Nice video , i have some problems can anybody help me ? After cupellation while i was dissolving the metal in nitric acid all metals were dissolved except gold.. after that i was purifying gold with second boiling in nitric acid but gold was started to dissolve in nitric acid it was like water soluble gold nanoparticles now I am stuck how can i precipate gold ...?

[@jasonwilliam2125]

sodium metabisulphite

[@corysamoila]

@@jasonwilliam2125 can we be friends lol

[@corysamoila]

@@jasonwilliam2125 what are some things not to do while meliting?