Pam's Vlog: The Tattler Controversy

My response to the controversy created by the recently posted hack on using Tattler gaskets with metal flats.
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[@sincin9935]

Oh honey, dont be discouraged by what you hear. Those of us with common sense understand the benefits you bring to the table. You can never satisfy everyone, and that's the trend on every channel. Myself and hundreds of other people really appreciate how you go above and beyond to teach us how to can safely and responsibly! Thank you for all the work you put into this!

[@hannahr.n.5791]

I couldn't say any better!😀

[@good-timeshomestead2183]

I will second this statement! I subscribe to your channel and not the other canning one's, because you show the data. The details you share about things has really upped my game in canning. Keep up the wonderful work you do Pam, the rest can follow or stay behind. As Grandma always said "The proof is in the pudding".

[@tughill1172]

I posted informative info on a neighborhood group. About the economy going down hill and to be aware of your surroundings. Someone said they didn't appreciate the political statement. It was on a post about a husband get slashed up from a guy trying to rob him. How the heck is that political? I just deleted the comment. They're figure it out one day.

[@ladysparkle1576]

Well said

[@LawandaFinch]

@@tughill1172 I agree. Not political but truth. The mind of some people m! 🙄🙄🙄

[@nicole740]

I'm sorry that this uproar has caused disruption to your life such that you felt the need to record a message to us from your office. Please know that your integrity, intelligence, and sincere desire to educate your KZbin audience are quite obvious to anyone who has watched you. Personally, I feel blessed to be getting an education from one with your credentials for free! Thank you (and your husband) for taking the time and energy to share these lessons with us on top of what must be an already busy life. Please don't be made weary by this tempest in a teapot. I think you're great!

[@sarramiller976]

Amen! Well stated, Nicole👏

[@lisaschafer5534]

Amen! I second that!

[@helenakenny5501]

Amen

[@bettystecher6372]

Me too!

[@karenesposito488]

Dido

[@NewYorkJennifer]

I'd trust you ANY day over others. Tattler is probably just making sure they CYA in case of lawsuits.

[@MrsBeReady]

Agree!

[@KellyS_77]

CYA and GREED. Tattler wants to sell you an overpriced piece of plastic, not just some rubber gaskets.

[@richardreese5377]

@@KellyS_77 exactly 💯

[@arepurposedlifewithlaura1496]

Most definitely!

[@MiscMitz]

Don't listen to them. We appreciate you

[@lavernekidd8643]

Company is just worried they might lose a dollar but we all know you are helping us as much as possible and I appreciate you guys Keep up good work There’s aways going to be those who are the haters Please don’t let this stop you from making videos We need you Thank You 🙏

[@janew5351]

Just tried your tattler and used lids on 2 jars in my last batch of apple sauce. Worked just fine! Let them cool their jets! I looked in hardware store with the Vicroy rubber rings. I will try them next and Tattler can just go crazzy! Keep up the gadgets and move on! Called 2 canning friends and they will be trying your new gadgets!

[@DeepwaterHomestead]

Don't let it bother you! People are crazy and the world gets crazier every day. Stand your ground!

[@ladysparkle1576]

I agree

[@islandgrl2005]

Totally agree - we live in upside down cray cray world.

[@AcornHillHomestead]

Totally agree.

[@veronicacousins8161]

Is true people is crazy in this day. Pam you the best!!.😇

[@ladysparkle1576]

@@veronicacousins8161 I agree

[@oldstuffbethtx8052]

Thank you, Pam, for transparency and continuing the scientific process with data gathering!

[@simplesojourner]

You have ALWAYS stressed food safety and responsibility when preserving food through different techniques. You employ the same scientific methods of testing that I do (as an analytical chemist, 30 years experience). I respect you, your work, and the information you provide us through you tube. Please continue on, I’ve learned so much from you in the last months!

[@msherry5]

Me too! Thank you so much, Pam.

[@tjeanvlogs9894]

As a biologist, you were very clear about testing a hack that you found novel. Please keep up the good work.

[@DAKneesy]

Totally agree. I am learning everything from you and really trust you. I appreciate your expertise and thoroughness. ❤

[@annhendrick8681]

I agree with you!

[@squirrelcovers6340]

I'm also an analytical chemist and have ZERO training in food science. I sincerely doubt that you do either. It's two completely different fields.

[@cindysue1139]

Good gravy! Why is everyone always getting their panties in a bunch? I watched the video you spoke of and you were merely explaining various lids and how these lids worked. I believe you said a commenter had asked about using the gasket with the metal lids. So you gave us the pros and cons of various lids and lid/ gasket combinations and left it to us to make decisions for ourselves. You told us what worked and what didn't work. We have all been put in a quandary by the Ball company ( and others ) who seem unwilling to sell boxes of lids. We know Ball has lids because stores are getting the jars with the lids and rings. Due to this lack of lids, some bought lids off Amazon that turned out to be very poor quality. I would surmise that some of these people may be the ones seeking the gaskets. Well, I will get off my soapbox now. Happy canning everyone!

[@bluerivercountry]

I agree!! 👍🏻😊

[@hollyhancock2319]

Yes, exactly 💯

[@ladysparkle1576]

I agree

[@starfire8221]

💯% agree

[@thetruckerskitchen772]

Why? Because her suggestion could, at a minimum cause loss of food and at the maximum cause death. I use Harvest Guard, have for 3 years now, and never once thought this would be a good idea. People should be held to a standard and be accountable for the information they put out. I really hope no one get ill from this hack.

[@chrisbaker5051]

Tattler sure seems to have missed the boat and possibly passed up a potential huge opportunity. Pretty sad that an end user does more helpful research than the manufacturer. Keep going Pam - you are still my “go to” when it comes to safe food preservation!

[@mellaniehulsey]

Better believe it, me too. When I want to know something I turn to Mrs. Pam because she makes us understand the actual science behind what we are doing. Not just what USDA says.

[@robins5880]

With all of the renewed interest in canning one would think the prudent business decision would be to increase research and, hopefully, production. There are companies other than Tattler to purchase gaskets from, maybe they will step up.

[@MK-ti2oo]

@@robins5880 it wouldn't surprise me if these companies were getting incentives to limit production right now, there's also the lack of materials and labor force though. I put nothing sinister past our governments at this point.

[@myrleenmanley]

My sentiments exactly. My first thought is they just want us to buy both pieces of their lids when your option will actually work.

[@MaN-pw1bn]

Rose, the people complaining aren't using their listening ears when you speak - you've stressed safety, things you've tried and help us think outside the box when big business keeps us in the box. Somebody has a hard on for you and we reject the nonsensical attacks.

[@SugarBeeFarm]

Agree with everything you’ve said. I appreciate all of your research and that you deal with facts. You would think tattler would be overjoyed with the increase in sales. Keep doing you !!!! 💕✌️🌱

[@KellyS_77]

Tattler would rather sell you an expensive lid & gasket combination than just the inexpensive gaskets.

[@amandamorrison5777]

Most of America's rubber comes from China. So I don't know how that will play out.

[@penelopej1996]

@@KellyS_77 Maybe Tattler wants their products to be used as they were tested and intended and think that there will be problems with people's food coming unsealed. They would be the ones dealing with all those complaints. The seals and the plastic lids are both reusable many many times and are not expensive when used overtime. The seals are dirt cheap and reusable.

[@susanmaupin737]

We are living in a world today that is looking to be offended & feeds off the controversy. Common sense is in short supply these days. I love your videos & you have a gift for teaching that not everyone has. Just recommended your channel to a relative this morning. Keep up the good work.

[@hollyhancock2319]

Yes

[@candacemiller01]

Right. When you have to put warning labels on everything because they will use “it” incorrectly. ie: child’s clothing-remove child before washing.

[@hollyhancock2319]

@@candacemiller01 yes

[@prihodabear]

Pam, please don't let people get you down. Our whole society has gone a little crazy with the whole pandemic and are tending to take it out on anyone. Keep your head up.

[@pegasus8873]

I agree…everyone is coo-coo today. IMO a study about how the virus has turned everyone crazy would be appreciated. I’m just super curious.

[@cattycee2001]

I have not started canning yet, but was doing my due diligence and researching information. I have learned so much from you. If Tattler is so concerned then they should provide viable results. IMHO

[@MK-ti2oo]

The world has taken up 'recreational anger ' to fill the void that the last 2 years has created in life. It's sad.

[@911dips5]

@@MK-ti2oo i was just saying that. everyone is so pissy these days

[@silnieves]

When people’s feathers get ruffled it’s because you must be doing something right! We love your channel thank you for all that you do

[@jacquiemarshall5275]

True Statement

[@brendacarroll498]

I thought it was brilliant! Who would have watched that and came to the conclusion it would disrupt anything. It was scientific and an opinion. I have had more false seals this year in my opinion because of rushed product. Don't be dismayed. We appreciate all the work you go to.

[@texassews535]

You go Pam! You did nothing wrong at all. I will be looking forward to your 3 month checkup from your canned storage “experiment”. People found problems with Jesus Christ, the only perfect person ever born. If you have used science AND common sense, that is enough for me.

[@Tinkerbell31326]

AMEN! Sister-in-Christ!

[@katshomekorner9194]

I too am looking forward to your 3 month checkup. If those gaskets work like they appeared to be doing in your video, that will solve a lot of problems for a lot of people. Not that Ball or Kerr will be happy with that. But it would be a nice side business for Tattler. 😊

[@ooohhitskaren63]

@@katshomekorner9194 not only that....if the flats can be reused safely with the extra gasket it would be wonderful. Especially, with the lid shortage.

[@sheilam4964]

@@katshomekorner9194 - If Ball or Kerr have any sense, they will produce their own rings and won't have to worry about Tattler (or their other family company, Harvest Guard).

[@Dotalina33]

Well said!!!

[@FromG2eminor]

Ok this makes me want to support you even more :) Cant wait to see the results. You have made canning so much less daunting in my mind and I love the way you teach.

[@hello_sunshine4875]

Your the teacher and a great one at that. Dont listen to them. There will always be negative people. They are just jealous.

[@pamt3915]

I & many others respect the fact that you’re not sponsored by companies. You give impartial views that are based with science. The real test will be if the metal lid compound will maintain its seal to the silicone gasket, since we already know the gasket is able to maintain its seal to glass. The community looks forward to your future hack results. Companies beware, this lady’s equipped with a gadget!

[@hello_sunshine4875]

I would call or write to Tattler yourself. I dont believe that fir one second. We need educators like you. The whole educational system is upside down. You teach people how to live right and how to be responsible and self sustaining.

[@valarieannaliza8805]

Offering data and info, along with your expertise, is a good thing! I once heard you say that you are not beholden to sponsors for the very reason that it allows you to be honest. Never apologize! We love you … and don’t you forget it😄

[@mistyfrank9120]

You are always tops in my book when it comes to information - don't let this get you down! We all appreciate everything you do for us!

[@cindypyeatt3535]

The information you shared is beneficial to anyone who's looking at ways to reuse the flats. You are honest and fair in your observations. I thank you.

[@mellaniehulsey]

Yes I agree, we all know we shouldn't but in these lean times like you said we all are looking to reuse.

[@MrYoungKen]

It is amazing how many people 'miss' the point of sharing information and have such a knee jerk reaction when it is presented. As always, the information shared by this channel is outstanding and it is nice to have these reminders that this information is a source to follow towards greater cumulative data that either supports or disproves the empirical data that so many people take as gospel for their subject(s) of interest. Thanks again for maintaining and sharing all of your findings and accumulated knowledge that we ourselves can improve on what we know and expand our ability to critically think about what we are doing.

[@hpierceall]

Pam, I appreciate everything you show us and test, with results. Most likely, anyone canning could test this hack out as well, and determine their own results! I placed an order for Tattler gaskets (not from Tattler but from a distributor) in order to test this for myself! I am thrilled to see additional ways to use our OLD canning lids-other than for vacuum sealing and dry storage! Thank you for being YOU!

[@nancytabor8302]

I have read the other comments and would like to echo all of them. In fact, I wonder if you made your results available to Home Canning and Preservation if it would be helpful to more than your KZbin audience? I am speaking of the canners and the lids! Please continue to use your knowledge and your experience in scientific method to educate those who will listen and learn? Thank you for all you do! I love the off-grid cooking demos!

[@S.Kay.Steffy]

Oh my goodness, so sorry you have to defend your intentions. Your background, your knowledge and your extensive testing speaks for itself. I will continue listening and trusting your videos because I consider you an expert, not only in canning but the science behind it. Please don’t stop sharing your years of experience because of some negative comments. The world we are living in today needs your knowledge about planning ahead and storing for at least a years worth of provisions. Kudos to you and THANK YOU for the time and effort you put into your videos 💕

[@nanizon]

Well done Lady with a Gadget! Your research is the most valuable current study being done by the industry. We the consumers set the demand in the end. We want better economy in our canning. And we don't particularly appreciate Ball/Kerr's reduction of lid rubber. I saw a video of a couple teaching how to can like they had been doing it for years. The lids all buckled and they didn't know why; turns out it was the first time they canned. I LOVE your experience. Thank you for sharing it. A sure foundation.

[@G-grandma_Army]

I guess I will never get to the point of being amazed at how people handle things. I so appreciate all you bring to us.

[@WrightvWrong]

I like the old saying... "If we try to please everyone, we please no one." Too many people are looking to find fault and complain to feel better about themselves.

[@sallyk9]

Or, you can please some of the people some of the time, but not all the people all the time.

[@Servants_Heart]

It’s a shame someone Tattletaled on you. These days, one must do what is necessary to store food. Hard times are coming.

[@galemaurer2820]

Hahaha! Tattled on you. That is a good one.

[@tallcedars2310]

Yes, and when we look at history of canning, women used to reuse the rubber rings on glass lids, I've done it myself, and it works if one is careful=common sense.

[@Servants_Heart]

I have never canned. No one in my family knows how either. I am dehydrating and canning the contents. That’s the max. I might practice canning water for starters.

[@tallcedars2310]

@@Servants_Heart If you can water, maybe can one jar of vegetable you like and eat it right away, nice reward for your labor:) Peace

[@agoogleuser6902]

Love you Dr. Pam! Keep doing what you're doing!

[@RoseRedHomestead]

Thank you so much!

[@lynntomk]

Ain't it great to be an American! They short us on lids then someone comes up with a way to reuse metal canning lids. American ingenuity. I said it before, GENIUS. Pam, this is a shoot-the-messenger moment. I'm pretty sure the canning community won't be griping about this two company merger, lol. I never trusted those plastic lids, I bought a set for back-up and they've been sitting on a shelf in the basement since I bought them. I want to hear that ping and see it sucked in. Having the ability to feed my family and keep food stored is my main goal. You did a good thing! I'm admiring your spunk!!

[@nygardenguru]

They don’t work! Why are they even being sold.

[@denisechristy-everett8606]

You are so classy with the way you handle things of this nature. Thank you for being exactly who you are and I trust your knowledge on everything you have shared with us. Thank you! 🤗

[@terrym5786]

Classy. Exactly the right word to describe Pam.

[@karenluesse3667]

My prayers go out to you. I can see the anguish in your face while you did this video. May God bless you and keep you while the fires subside. I think many people love to discredit others because they do not want to look inside to their own flaws and weaknesses. I just recently started thinking about food storage and have found your videos some of the most informative and watchable.

[@RJFord-xs2os]

Keep rocking the boat dear Pam ♥️🌹♥️ I’ll keep watching and learning from you.

[@cbass2755]

If it causes a bad seal, then it does. We will know when we check our jars. Jezz…Ball should be the one who is concerned. Their lids are terrible!! When ordered, they come bent up, even in the stores. So looking for other options is a good thing!! I was going to order Tattlers for just that reason….I’m not sure now. You just keep doing you Pam. Your wonderful!! And if Tattler Gaskets work that way, what’s wrong with that? I’ll order lots of them!!

[@gigireg5567]

Denali is making fine lids. All have sealed well for me so far. They even retooled their company to produce only lids during the shortage, and gave 1 box of 12 lids free!

[@jeannettemckay1536]

I sincerely appreciate all the testing you do on canning and preserving foods. The research you did on canning pasta sauce was very important to know. Please remember that small minded people are abundant and abhor things that skew their status quo. Keep up the good work you do.

[@donnastormer9652]

I have so appreciated the fact that you don’t recommend, that you test then give the results. I for one will make my own decisions after I collect information from a few different sources, you being one that I trust yet know your human like me. Thanks for continuing to share your experience and knowledge! Society needs more people like you!!

[@jerseyknits]

Pam, you are an amazing woman! There are so many of us that love you and appreciate all the testing that you do. You inspire me to experiment and to find what succeeds and fails. If we all followed the "established rules", then there would be no innovation. Thank you for taking the time to experiment, test, learn and make videos to teach the rest of us. You are valued.

[@deannamartin6827]

I enjoy this channel for your dedication and diligence for safety. People don't want to have a slew of useless jars and no lids! We should all be aware there's not a steady supply anymore. Tattler indeed! 😁 I would still try their products. Thanks.

[@swingdancer49]

@@redhen7512 Harvest at least still has the bulk ones to order, but they have a statement on their page that they are 3 to 4 weeks behind because of a youtube by Jill Winger at Prairie Home resulted in a severe spike in their orders.

[@veronicacousins8161]

@@redhen7512 Yes,today a buy 10 boxes for the prices of $2.79 you can buy at WALMART is made in USA.

[@metro3692]

I don't see how anyone can hold a manufacturer responsible for something the consumer chooses to do with their product. If we buy a gun and shoot somebody, they don't hold the seller responsible.

[@coolstamper]

Good for you Pam…stand up for what you think is right…can’t wait to hear your results!!! 💕🌸💕

[@chrishall6355]

That was quick! You're clearly a power in the industry. Interesting that the wagons never seem to circle on all the sundry unsafe practices we see being recommended on KZbin. But that woman with a gadget? The one who can back it up with SCIENCE...🔥 her! #teamred

[@CS-xo3kr]

Thank you for being so honest about everything! I truly don't understand why the tattler video made such a stink in the canning world. I watched it a few days ago and, personally, I thought "huh, that's pretty neat but I don't think I'll try it." and then I went about my day. People are just looking for reasons to get upset. Keep doing what you are doing. I look forward to the future updates on how well the jars stay sealed!

[@randimochamer6284]

I’m 63 years old. I have canned since I could stand on a chair and help my grandmother. We water-bathed everything but meat! How did we ever survive? I was taught that when a jar didn’t seal, you refrigerated it, ate it that night, or put it in a freezer container. Jeez! It’s been about ten years since I canned, but I got back into it last fall because of the pandemic. I have been appalled at the cheapness of canning lids these days. You ROCK, girl. I don’t care about Tattler- or anyone who thinks they know it all. I’m an old woman who has learned from a sister homemaker who has helped me rediscover the love, health and safety of home-stored food! Keep up the good work!

[@karenparle5219]

your lessons and content is more reliable and safer than almost all others on youtube. please don't let crappy people stop you from teaching us safe practices. we need you!

[@jhenniceamorrow5936]

Absolutely!

[@islandgrl2005]

The irony that their company name is “Tattler”. 🤣 Don’t let this bother you - we now live in a world full of Karen’s. You’re awesome and I’ve learned so much from you! ❤️

[@susantreadwell1770]

Clever! I would have never made the connection but I will from now on! Loved it!

[@candacemiller01]

Lol

[@StockingMyPantry]

I just thought of this same thing this morning, lol.

[@joannecordone6831]

Sending the best to you. Thank you, from those of us who remain silent. We are here and respect your presentations.

[@audreyslivinglife]

I know that I am not alone in appreciating all the research and effort you put into trying to help others. Anyone who views your channel regularly knows that you have a good and honest heart. Please do not let negative people trouble your spirit. You are truly a gem.💖

[@scholargrrl]

So, let me get this straight...you made a video answering a question from your followers and made sure you had proper disclaimers, which resulted in an huge increase in sales for Tattler products, to which they responded with censure... You are doing an amazing job presenting us with properly presented facts and fully articulated (and disclaimed) opinions! I greatly appreciate it, from the tips of my toes to my sciencey brain. Thank you for taking the time out of your life to enrich mine. ❤

[@elizabethhorne6383]

The world has gone to hell in a hand basket. People are absolutely hyper defensive believing they are being "told" what to do. I and so many others only looked at you video and saw what the results were and realize 100% that it is our choice to do what you did or not. Never once did I feel you were approving it for all. If you choose to do it thats your choice. I choose not to and that is my choice as any choice is everyone else's. It makes me so sick to see this kind of reaction people are having to something so minor. Also the same kind of reaction to things are not so minor. Its like the past year and a half has knocked many many people off the crazy tree and they hit every branch on the way down. You just keep doing what you do and need mind the crazies.

[@LawandaFinch]

For sure!

[@thecakeladytm]

Lol! "Knocked off the crazy tree and hit every branch on the way down..." Never a truer thing said!

[@candacemiller01]

Lolololol

[@Dotalina33]

@@thecakeladytm so HONKIN funny! I can’t stop laughing!

[@chelinfusco6403]

You go Professor! We love everything you do and so grateful we have found you.

[@Lemonz1989]

Heavens, seems like no community on KZbin is free of controversy. One would assume that something as fun and innocent as canning would be safe from drama. Don’t let this get to you. You have the best canning content on KZbin, without a doubt, and we are many who appreciate the work you do. 😊

[@helenakenny5501]

Yes, we who appreciate you are many

[@blessedtrimability9626]

Wow we still love your science and innovations. We each must research and make our own decisions. Thank you again for what you are doing. 💖

[@zaraknight9453]

Yes! Stand your ground! Doing a larger test would be very helpful, as supplies are tight, with no end in sight. To reduce waste, repurpose materials, and safely produce healthy meals for much less than store-bought prepared foods - that’s a winner in my eyes!👍💐

[@phantomriverfarm]

I ordered some Harvest Guard gaskets since they are similar and intend to give them a try with fruit that I grew; so no great loss if it fails. I appreciate your practicality and poise. Keep up the good work.

[@marinellroberts6028]

I value your scientific data and your advice. It has helped me tremendously. It's a pity that they don't test their own product on flats and don't worry about any of this. Your doing an amazing job at helping all of us. Much love and respect sent to you.

[@famous9222]

My life motto is "no good deed goes unpunished"...but I continue to do good deeds and ignore the complainers. You do good deeds with your science and teaching, so never apologize for that❤️

[@debs2842]

There's always someone who's going to whine about something good, bad, or indifferent. I'll keep watching and I trust your advice.

[@kathygenovy3893]

Don’t worry about it. Thank you for sharing that hack. I did order some gaskets but wasn’t planning on using them unless it was an absolute emergency and if there were absolutely no lids available. So it’s a good hack to know

[@Rosemary-gc4gk]

What is more truthful than science! I use Tattler lids occasionally and think they would be pleased of another way to use the seals. Can’t wait to hear your results and wish they would do some testing too! Keep up the terrific work and thanks!

[@keranhumble1282]

I've learned so much about canning and food preservation from you. I like your scientific approach. I'm a retired Medical Technologist and have worked in a laboratory for over 35 years. I understand how important the warnings you give us to proper food preservation and the dangers involved. I love how you teach and will continue to value your opinions. Thank you for your valued contribution.

[@suehorvath6053]

I have watched the majority of your videos on canning and regularly give you thumbs up to promote your channel. Please continue the good work you do and allow your viewers to make up their own minds from a point of knowledge. I was equally delighted with your "hack" suggestion and bought Tattler gaskets to try this for myself. I accept responsibility for my choices in canning and hope everyone else does the same.

[@milliemrrobinson1074]

I appreciate all your information and I never fail to learn from you! You are a marvelous teacher and I appreciate all you do to help us!

[@Thomas-ZET]

In these times many of us will try almost anything, I do remember my grandmother canning and the flats had a separate gasket, if anything thing this should prompt manufacturers to step up if they can. Great videos

[@musicalspirit11]

Thank you, Pam. I am relatively new to your videos and want to thank you for teaching me how to can safely. Your commitment to safe canning is evident and I do appreciate that. You are a GREAT teacher, and I absolutely adore you. Keep up the great work. All the best to you and Jim.

[@gailcroslin1647]

Miss Pam, I have heard the same thing on other sites. Are they griping because you have such a hugh following. I think it's time for these companies to get responsible. I'd love to have new metal lids but I can't find them!! Stay strong. I hope you have a better day and keep doing what you're doing. I have complete trust in you and your data. 👍👍👍

[@annie_oops]

Pam, You have one of the most scientific and well-researched info on KZbin. It is greatly appreciated by most of us. You are one of the only people on KZbin who does not add self-promoting and affiliate links to your content to make money. You keep on doing what you do so well and don't let the DRAMA get you down. Your hard work is appreciated!

[@pamackenzie]

I understand that your goal is to use the scientific method to explore and test safe canning methods for all of us who can. That is very valuable to many of us canners. I appreciate that so much. I can also see the viewpoint of a family company that may feel threatened by what they might see as a liability. It would be great if perhaps the family company would see this as a new avenue for their products, and test them as you suggest. Goodwill toward their customers means a lot to some of us. Just remember, we appreciate your fair and open-minded ways of teaching!

[@miarosie]

I think that the thing that has struck me most with the ‘response video’ that Leisa did, is that she is a self confessed ‘rebel canner’ she has created videos which show her canning goods against US gov advice; she then says, apparently, to test things yourself. Isn’t that a tad hypocritical? Especially, as she states in the video, that she’s now removing those video’s - one can only presume because she knows they are wrong. The issue I have with it is that many will have watched and followed suit. She also mentions probably still rebel canning herself - again suggesting it is ok. I also find it amazing that she’s not watched your video, and that Tattler chose her, above a pr agency or social media specialist, to address this for them and ‘spread the word’ as someone commented. I am not yet a canner, mainly because I don’t know which canning device to buy (UK) but even as a novice I was more than aware that you are testing this - with water initially. I am however aware that a lot of seals fail, that there are false seals. So every single canned item could have failed. If a gasket is a good close fit and creates a vacuum, then surely someone somewhere needs to test it. It would make sense for Tattler to do that but two things spring to mind. A) they want their lids to sell. B) They don’t recognise they’re missing a huge opportunity here. If they sold the gaskets for use on other lids, there will come a point when folk need more lids. Either because they’ve run out or they’re old and need to be discarded. In that situation i’d buy new lids at the same time as the gaskets ie Tattlers. I appreciate your integrity. I appreciate your swift response. I appreciate that you are not at anyones behest by not accepting sponsorship. I appreciate, more than anything, the grace and kind manner in which you addressed this issue. Calm, quiet, honest response with a level of graciousness that is sorely lacking from others, not least Tattler, who really could have approached you about this themselves instead of sending out an email to a fb user full of exclamation marks (read out as part of the text) All Tattler had to do was contact you, say something along the lines of “interesting concept. Could you do us a huge favour and remove your video for now? We’ll look into this and so some testing and are eager to see what your tests show too” common courtesy. But a company asking another youtube account to deal with their issue? 😳 Really? (At least that is what appears to have happened according to one comment on your channel.)

[@StockingMyPantry]

I agree that it's incredibly hypocritical! If I want to learn safe canning and I need to choose between Leisa and Pam, it's Pam all the way!

[@annhendrick8681]

This needs to be the high lighted comment on top for everyone to read Frist. I fully agree with everything you said!

[@paulinewood9618]

Thank you for all that you do and the teaching of the science behind the rules. It is much easier to follow rules when one knows and understand the why of things.Continue your good work even with the bumps that occur along the way. Being that you are testing things, how about doing a test using the tattler reusable rings: 1. With various brands of lids from the best to the ones that we don't recommend. 2. Use lids where the sealing medium is considered unusable for normal canning to slightly used to brand new lids for each brand. 3. One must specify that used lids does not mean bent, dinted or otherwise damaged lids. 4. I would think also it might be a good idea to try various types contents that have a bit of fat as well because should there be any seepage but seals, how long would it stay sealed. canning jars. will interpret Having said all this, I realize this could be costly too. Now I am curious and I hope, that although there is an uproar across the board,, that your hack will make the companies aware that there is a particular need out there. Although they do have a very good product that people will continue using, perhaps they really should look into this a bit more seriously and serve the people's needs even better. It is not the person who kept looking for gold during the gold rush but the one who sold the shovels who made the money.

[@hello_sunshine4875]

We love you and appreciate you,just keep doing what you are doing 🙋‍♀️🙏 God Bless you Pam. Greetings from FL.

[@vondabarela8994]

I love that you are using this as an opportunity to produce real-life data and results for us to see for ourselves. Very glad you’ve not allowed yourself to be bullied into compliance. We will make our own decisions based on our own results as well. It is fine for the company to protect themselves legally. All they had to do was put out a blanket statement that they are not responsible if people decide to use them this way. Period. There was no need to go to the lengths they did to disparage reputations, in my opinion. 👍🏼

[@RoseRedHomestead]

Yes--well said! Thank you.

[@swingdancer49]

@@RoseRedHomestead I also noticed today that Tattler put this quote on their site by the rubber rings... ****Tattler Rubber Rings are designed to be used only with Tattler Lids. We will not accept responsibility or liability for results when using them for anything other than their intended purpose and doing so is at your own risk.

[@rainspringing]

@@swingdancer49 That right there is what they should have done from the time they were notified. Nothing else, unless it might be important for liability to have that statement on the home page, and so on.

[@ts7844]

Hey, it all comes down to nothing more than absolute jealousy of your professionalism and growing channel. You present the facts and your data has undoubtedly been thoroughly checked. You’re the best!

[@1954evelyn]

Exactly what I say. I have heard comments that were not appropriate on another channel I unsubscribed. Because if they are running a teaching channel they should be happy someone with more knowledge is willing to do all the work you do. And like you said it is not for the money it is for safety and teaching people the correct way to can and preserve.

[@coletteburgess1942]

Jealousy is the key word here. This channel grew like crazy this summer and for a good reason. Pam is incredibly dedicated to teaching and helping us understand the science behind everything. The other channels hardly grew at all. I liked the other channels but after this situation I’ve unsubscribed. No need to support such behavior.

[@stacy9345]

Apparently the old saying still applies "no good deed goes unpunished." I've only been watching your videos for a relatively short time and am very impressed with your testing methods. Keep up the good work. Maybe Tattler doesn't want to get sued.

[@metro3692]

Sued for what. Because a jar didn't seal?

[@stacy9345]

@@metro3692 some people sue for anything.

[@WestTexasTumbleweeds]

You have something the ‘Canning Pharisees’ don’t: CLASS AND INTEGRITY. Your heart comes through in every video. The more I get to know you through your videos, the more I cherish and value ALL your lessons, tips and advice. You are a rare gem and I feel blessed having stumbled onto your channel several months ago. ❤️

[@steveday4797]

You've nothing to appolgise for at all. I remember back in the 70's my dear old dad working on his car. The ghead gasket had gone and he couldn't find a replacement anywhere. Our neighbour over the road a that time was a retired machanic, he shown my dad how to use an old cereal box and gasket rubber cement to create a new one. I doubt anyone in the car industry would condone this method and probably bang on about failures. My dad's homemade gaskets never failed by the way. Love your channel and you've really given me some great information

[@iridescentsea3730]

It really is the trend these days for companies to tell people "you cannot do this on your own, you need us" and then charge a premium.

[@Zandanga]

Mental and emotional stability. Especially emotional stability. I am 67 now but it took me decades to learn to take criticism rationally and objectively, analyzing whether there be any validity. If valid, then it is up to me to correct/modify, which can only work toward perfection. (Not that perfection is actually obtainable.) If not valid, then water off the duck's back. That is what took so long to achieve ... emotional equilibrium with no lasting emotional damage. And so I watch you sail through this criticism and, at the end, calmly state with a smile that you will carry on with your experiment. And that to the good of all of us who watch your informative and knowledgeable videos. I was thinking that 'this lady has already been through much fire' ... water off the duck's back. Smiling that you will carry on. 🤗

[@WhatDadIsUpTo]

You read my mail. I unintentionally upset the apple cart all the time. I recently asked if tossing a lighted match into a jar as I put on the lid in an attempt to scrub oxygen might be an option and SEVERAL folks got angry. I thought for sure some wanted to drag me out to the wood shed "to straighten out my thinking." So, don't let it bother you. I don't.

[@RoseRedHomestead]

LOL! Thank you for understanding!

[@snarky_farmer]

I, for one, am glad things got stirred up. More things need to be. This is how new ideas and solutions, alternatives, etc, happen. So, thank you. Any reasonable person would not spaz out about something like this. People. Sheesh.

[@joe_tagliavia]

You rock, Pam! You are objective, logical and think critically - and that is why there are some ruffled feathers. You are an exception to the rule. I watched your hack video and found it to be informative and I did not in any way think that you were promoting the hack. You were just sharing facts and left it up to all of us to determine whether or not our abilities to understand the principles of how a vacuum seal works would generate a level of comfort, or not. Three quick things: (1) I didn’t go rushing out to order gaskets, but instead felt that Ball has been “dropping the ball” (no pun intended) and that is why we are having the conversations we are having regarding lid availability, quality and ability to seal; (2) based upon previous videos on your channel and elsewhere I had already ordered a mix of 50/50 reg/wide Harvest Guard lids/gaskets (that is apparently the son of the guy who owns Tattler; and that design is the design that had been tested and approved in the universitey extensions or by the USDA (not sure which)); (3) here is something to make you smile: Weck has come out with new jars! I swore I was not buying any more jars this year, but these new Quadro Jars are beckoning with a siren song. Check them out! (this is the url, but safe surfing says not to click URLs unless you trust them, just putting it here for reference: weckjars.com/product-category/quadro/). Finally - I bought that maslin pan and am looking forward to canning apple pie filling sometime within the next week (my current pot is a bit too small).

[@kimerickson1316]

I've used the gaskets for years with the white plastic lids so things are sealed better. I think this is a great idea and will be trying it soon.

[@ssmith5127]

Greatly impressed by your ability to make informed and personally verified decisions. Appreciate you sharing your discoveries with others. I guess if we all took your approach we would be better off. You are a special lady.

[@tristaperkins7112]

If they are so offended, that should tell you that you are 110% on to something! Only thing they are concerned about is their pocketbooks! You made the nervous.

[@cindyshipley1]

I SO appreciate the many, many hours that you spend experimenting and then, out of the goodness of your heart, sharing what you’ve learned with us! As you say, you just tell us what you have discovered, and then we need to decide for ourselves what we’d like to do in our own kitchen. I’m so sorry you’ve had to deal with this.

[@RoseRedHomestead]

Thanks so much 😊

[@cometravelwithus1696]

I feel bad for your position, it's so hard it seems no matter how you start your youtube channel it turns into a political thing. I just want you to know Im new to canning. This year (lol) and Im so grateful for all you do and love watching your channel to learn. Im so sorry you have to go through the troll comments and political BS when just trying to put something out there that you are very knowledgeable in. I thank you very much and appreciate your work. :)

[@RoseRedHomestead]

You are very welcome and we will keep helping especially the new canners on our channel! Thank you.

[@rl9745]

Watching your video I can tell this was emotional for you. If I could say, please disregard the judgement of haters. You are a lovely person and you present tested information to those of us who need to hear it. There will always be those people who find some pleasure in tearing down others. They are of no consequence. You, however, are of great consequence to those of us who enjoy your videos on a daily basis. We know that you give us information to help us and we appreciate you. Jim, give Pam a big hug and remind her that the opinions of others are not important. Only the opinions of those who love you. Though we love you from afar, we are very protective of you. Chin up darlin, just keep talking to those of us who value you and disregard the haters.

[@GardengateDreamer]

So if their site was flooded with request for their product, then you did them well by using their product on your video. I like that you are taking it upon yourself to do what they really should have done by doing experimental testing. You are such a wonderful leader for the canning world! I think it be awesome If it actually works, I like to reuse and recycle and really get disappointed I have to throw away the flats (or remember to do it don’t get mixed in with my unused ones. But to me I don’t like the idea of plastic lids.

[@bcaldwell3849]

Good for you, brave soul♥️🇺🇸. We are all stressed over the unsettling inability to find lids and jars when we need them. Ball has really dropped the ball IMO. I’ve been slowly switching to the pricey Weck. If we can safely repurpose those flat metal lids, then that’s reason to celebrate. I look forward to your future tests.👩‍🔬

[@KatD2024]

I am always amazed when something as silly as this blows up. Passing on a hack that might help someone preserve food when shortages prevent it is a blessing to those that need it. I trust that your canning videos are a safe representation of food preservation.

[@sandysimpson9]

Don’t let them bother you. You presented an alternative to this list shortage that appears to be as useful as any other. Did they test it like you did, no.. as with a lot of these rules and regulations a lot have not been tested yet they say you shouldn’t be doing this or that. That’s being very disingenuous. Canners have done all kinds of canning that worked out great for them. I look forward to seeing how your experiment goes. I bet it’s a winner but we will see. Thanks

[@gsdalpha1358]

Sounds like Tattler is well aware of some issues when people use their product. Their response is blatant overkill. You approach things methodically and scientifically. How dare you! Our history is riff with those who challenge prevailing "science" and are condemned for it. You go, girl!

[@lisaolin4571]

I think your amazing, please don't stop the way your doing things. I absolutely love, love, love your videos ❤️🌞❤️❤️

[@lindadavis4204]

Rose I have just started watching you. Love everything you have done and I have soaked in everything you have taught me and others. Your channel is FREEDOM OF SPEECH ! ! Your speech is truth. Please don’t let anyone upset you for your truth. I have now subscribed to your channel because i feel you are teaching me something new every time I watch you. Please keep up the good work…

[@RoseRedHomestead]

Thank you so much and we are so glad to have you watching our videos. We have no intent to stop what we are doing.

[@Nancy-zk9dj]

This makes me value and trust you even more. I'm sorry things took this turn, crazy. Keep on girl! ❤

[@RoseRedHomestead]

Thank you so much!

[@bertieboatright1206]

Oh my ,!Don’t listen to negativity. I personally love the lady with a gadget. Keep up the excellent work.

[@AtHomeWithSheree]

Dr. Pam, you are a gem! I watch your videos and learn so much based on your Data! It is very helpful for me to make decisions about how I’m preserving my foods. Know that your efforts and your sharing of DATA is very much appreciated!

[@40lennie]

You do a great job. Don't let negative people upset you!!

[@kevinrehberg8758]

Yes tattler lid systems can be more difficult to use... My personal application is to test the lids after canning... but I also double check the seals three weeks later to insure the seal held.. I never store my "canned foods" with the bands intentionally to give that individual ring the opportunity to fail....If it passes the three week test, (and a few haven't) I have yet to find a lid failure...But I always listen for the vacuum release hiss Another tip is I always check the lids for the little "barbs" and file them smooth with an emery board.. Those little "barbs" can interfere with the tightening of the bands "post cook" and break the seal